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Old February 11th 06, 05:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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I encrypted some files before formatting windows and reinstalling and now I
can't open those files...what to do?


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Old February 11th 06, 05:51 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Didn't backup the encryption key, eh? Say goodbye to your files.

Steven

"Tonyyy" wrote in message ...
I encrypted some files before formatting windows and reinstalling and now I
can't open those files...what to do?


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Old February 11th 06, 06:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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just like that say hello???? there must be another solution.... I thought
you people know somthin' 'bout computers...
Please can somebody else help me.??? Those files are important to me...


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Old February 11th 06, 06:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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"Tonyyy" wrote in message
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just like that say hello???? there must be another solution.... I thought
you people know somthin' 'bout computers...
Please can somebody else help me.??? Those files are important to me...



There is no backdoor to EFS (encryption file system). If you did not export
the EFS certificate so you could later import it then you no longer have the
necessary encryption keys to decrypt your files that were encrypted using
that old EFS certificate.

Go to Start - Help and Support, search on EFS, and read about how you need
to export the EFS certificate (under "Managing Certificates"). Also read
the section "Best practices".

Without a copy of the private key that was on your hard drive in the EFS
certificate file, you have no way to decrypt those files.

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Old February 11th 06, 06:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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So that means I've lost these files forever????
"Vanguard" wrote in message
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"Tonyyy" wrote in message
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just like that say hello???? there must be another solution.... I
thought you people know somthin' 'bout computers...
Please can somebody else help me.??? Those files are important to me...



There is no backdoor to EFS (encryption file system). If you did not
export the EFS certificate so you could later import it then you no longer
have the necessary encryption keys to decrypt your files that were
encrypted using that old EFS certificate.

Go to Start - Help and Support, search on EFS, and read about how you
need to export the EFS certificate (under "Managing Certificates"). Also
read the section "Best practices".

Without a copy of the private key that was on your hard drive in the EFS
certificate file, you have no way to decrypt those files.

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Old February 11th 06, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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That's right. You could try this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=password+cracker

Steven

"Tonyyy" wrote in message ...
So that means I've lost these files forever????
"Vanguard" wrote in message
...
"Tonyyy" wrote in message
...
just like that say hello???? there must be another solution.... I
thought you people know somthin' 'bout computers...
Please can somebody else help me.??? Those files are important to me...



There is no backdoor to EFS (encryption file system). If you did not
export the EFS certificate so you could later import it then you no longer
have the necessary encryption keys to decrypt your files that were
encrypted using that old EFS certificate.

Go to Start - Help and Support, search on EFS, and read about how you
need to export the EFS certificate (under "Managing Certificates"). Also
read the section "Best practices".

Without a copy of the private key that was on your hard drive in the EFS
certificate file, you have no way to decrypt those files.

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Old February 11th 06, 07:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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I don't believe you cause there must be another way to decrypt those
files...cause u can't loose important files just like that??? Common...WTC
crashed and they still found lost files on pc's...there must be another
solution...I had 20GB encrypted files and I can't even delete them...does
that mean that I can throw away my harddisc cause there is no more space?


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Old February 11th 06, 07:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Good luck to you, my friend.

Steven

"Tonyyy" wrote in message ...
I don't believe you cause there must be another way to decrypt those
files...cause u can't loose important files just like that??? Common...WTC
crashed and they still found lost files on pc's...there must be another
solution...I had 20GB encrypted files and I can't even delete them...does
that mean that I can throw away my harddisc cause there is no more space?


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Old February 11th 06, 07:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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It sounds like these are protected with the Windows EFS. Is that the case?
If so, we do not have a solution for this. If these are something else,
please let us know.

Please let us know if you have any questions. Thank you for contacting
Password Crackers, Inc.

Password Crackers, Inc.
http://www.pwcrack.com/

"M and D" wrote in message
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Good luck to you, my friend.

Steven

"Tonyyy" wrote in message
...
I don't believe you cause there must be another way to decrypt those
files...cause u can't loose important files just like that??? Common...WTC
crashed and they still found lost files on pc's...there must be another
solution...I had 20GB encrypted files and I can't even delete them...does
that mean that I can throw away my harddisc cause there is no more space?




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Old February 11th 06, 08:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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M and D wrote:
I don't believe you cause there must be another way to decrypt those
files...cause u can't loose important files just like that??? Common...WTC

This looks like a troll. If not then you have just learned how strong EFS is, There is one and only one way to recover. You have to by brute force try every possibe key. Oh! , the keyspace is to large? You, you got it, Those files are lost and gone forever,
That is what encryption is all about. You do not really want it any other way.
Next time,back up the certificate, sorry,
Of course I doubt this was a valid post in the first place because you refuse to accept the correct answers you were given.
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Old February 11th 06, 08:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Yes you can lose data just like that and it happens when EFS is improperly
used.
EFS is not low grade security with an easy break, EFS is designed to keep
data secure...and it works.
It sounds like you want permissions that can be circumvented as long as you
have physical access to the computer.
EFS can keep data secure if the computer is stolen or otherwise compromised.
However when use correctly with correct precautions taken, data loss is not
an issue.
Very few home users and even small businesses have any need for the level of
security offered with EFS.

The WTC computers you reference probably did not use EFS or they properly
used it and had the keys available.

Take Ownership of the data, #9 on this link:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/adsecurity.htm
You will not be able to decrypt the data, but you can move or delete it.

See the links near the bottom of this page for information on preventing
this type of data loss in the futu
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/encrypt.htm
Unfortunately you now know why EFS is often called "The Delayed Recycle Bin"

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"Tonyyy" wrote in message
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I don't believe you cause there must be another way to decrypt those
files...cause u can't loose important files just like that??? Common...WTC
crashed and they still found lost files on pc's...there must be another
solution...I had 20GB encrypted files and I can't even delete them...does
that mean that I can throw away my harddisc cause there is no more space?



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Old February 11th 06, 08:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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You don't listen very well, do you. Your files are gone - unless you have an
inside man in the NSA (National Security Agency).

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If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!

"Tonyyy" wrote in message
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I don't believe you cause there must be another way to decrypt those
files...cause u can't loose important files just like that??? Common...WTC
crashed and they still found lost files on pc's...there must be another
solution...I had 20GB encrypted files and I can't even delete them...does
that mean that I can throw away my harddisc cause there is no more space?



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Old February 11th 06, 09:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Tonyyy wrote:

I don't believe you cause there must be another way to decrypt those
files...cause u can't loose important files just like that??? Common...WTC
crashed and they still found lost files on pc's...there must be another
solution...I had 20GB encrypted files and I can't even delete them...does
that mean that I can throw away my harddisc cause there is no more space?



Go to a crack site and fine the crack for the encryption program you used.
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Old February 11th 06, 10:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Not an option for EFS.
There is no "crack".
The keys are needed and apparently they are gone with the format thus the
OPs problem.

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Go to a crack site and fine the crack for the encryption program you used.



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Old February 11th 06, 10:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Tonyyy wrote:
I don't believe you cause there must be another way to decrypt those
files...cause u can't loose important files just like that???
Common...WTC crashed and they still found lost files on pc's...there
must be another solution...I had 20GB encrypted files and I can't
even delete them...does that mean that I can throw away my harddisc
cause there is no more space?


How much money and time do you have to fix the problem? There is a
possibilty that a data recovery lab could get the needed keys from your hard
drive even after a format. Their prices usually start around $1,000 and your
hard drive will probably be destroyed in the process. You will have to send
the drive to them and pay a fee whether or not they can recover anything. If
they are able to recover the keys then you will have to figure out how to
import them into your current install to decrypt the files.

To delete the files all you have to do is take ownership.

Kerry


 




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