Edge not working

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.

The most likely source of clues might lie in this composite screenshot
of Event Viewer. Whenever an attempt is made to open Edge, Event 1000
occurs and is then repeatedly followed by 21, 37, 38 and 22.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qx1r2zdoo9...e-1..jpg?raw=1

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Terry Pinnell wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.

The most likely source of clues might lie in this composite screenshot
of Event Viewer. Whenever an attempt is made to open Edge, Event 1000
occurs and is then repeatedly followed by 21, 37, 38 and 22.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qx1r2zdoo9...e-1..jpg?raw=1

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

I'm going around in circles trying to achieve this. For a start, all
three names already seem to have Full Control, until I go to the Advance
section.

Could someone step me through this please?

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7367qz4n85...m-01.jpg?raw=1
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nb0lzwuvl...m-02.jpg?raw=1

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 16:01:25 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.




Here's my suggestion: stop trying to use Edge (the *worst* of all
available browsers, in my opinion) and switch to almost any other
browser. My personal choice is FireFox.

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 16:01:25 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.




Here's my suggestion: stop trying to use Edge (the *worst* of all
available browsers, in my opinion) and switch to almost any other
browser. My personal choice is FireFox.

My suggestion was to try creating a new user account.

As portions of Store programs are in Appdata.
A new account means a new Appdata.

If Edge doesn't spray the Event Viewer with error 5 permission
issues while doing process isolation (containers), then you know
it's either the code portion in your current account, or the
data portion (including the Edge archive files).

One of the popular (usually factual) windows websites, suggested
deleting the folder with the code, then using the usual command
to reinstall Edge. And the reason they do it that way, is Edge
has the in-box bit set, so it's not removable (I flipped that
bit and tried to remove Edge, but all that seemed to do is
remove the icon). You cannot uninstall it and expect it to be
fully uninstalled. So what that web site was doing, is deleting
the folder, then doing a reinstall in Powershell (in your
current account).

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/reset...-in-windows-10

Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers -Name Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge | Foreach
{Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register
"$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml" -Verbose}

I can never be sure, with commands like that, where the AppXManifest.xml
is coming from... From the folder you just deleted ?

Paul

On 11/4/2018 11:01 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.

The most likely source of clues might lie in this composite screenshot
of Event Viewer. Whenever an attempt is made to open Edge, Event 1000
occurs and is then repeatedly followed by 21, 37, 38 and 22.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qx1r2zdoo9...e-1..jpg?raw=1

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Are you still trying to use that shell on top of Win10, or have you
removed it and cleaned up the system?

--
best regards,

Neil

On 04/11/2018 16:01, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.


This is quite normal when an askhole is using a Windows 10 machine. You
were told to wipe your disk clean and start again but like any askhole,
you decided that you know better. therefore, sort it out yourself or
wipe your disk clean or hire a technician from Bangalore or Hyderabad.
You have many choices but like any askhole, you won't follow any of them.






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Terry Pinnell wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly. I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain.

Are some of those methods included in the following?

- NOT define a home page in Edge, or use about:blank.
- Load Edge in its safe mode.
- Reset Edge.
- Load Windows 10 in its safe mode w/networking.
- Temporarily disable all non-MS anti-virus and other security software.
- Load Edge using its protocol, as in "microsoft-edge:urltosite".

The most likely source of clues might lie in this composite screenshot
of Event Viewer. Whenever an attempt is made to open Edge, Event 1000
occurs and is then repeatedly followed by 21, 37, 38 and 22.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qx1r2zdoo9...e-1..jpg?raw=1

The appcontainer is to sandbox webapps. It was added back in Win8 for
store apps. That's why I asked if you tried starting Edge in its safe
mode to get rid of any and all extensions you installed into Edge. If
you have old extensions, especially those requiring ActiveX, they won't
run inside an appcontainer. Edge runs inside an appcontainer. Some
extensions, like Flash, are run in their own appcontainer. See:

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/...-edge-sandbox/
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...iner-isolation

Since one of the errors involves CreateAppContainerProfile, looks like
an appcontainer process cannot be generated to host the Edge app. I've
found some articles that the error might be about connecting
(registering) to the Windows Firewall. Is that enabled? Users can
encounter problems even with the Start Menu or Windows taskbar if the
Window Firewall isn't working. What other non-Microsoft anti-malware or
security software have you installed?

Were you ever hit with malware? Did some security software do a
disinfection? That might remove the active components of malware but it
does NOT return the OS back to a state prior to infection. Malware can
make lots of changes that remain after it gets disinfected. Might be
time for a fresh install of the OS.

Have you yet got rid of ClassicShell? Again, as mentioned, similar to
malware, uninstalling it may not undo all the changes it made.

VanguardLH wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly. I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain.

Are some of those methods included in the following?

- NOT define a home page in Edge, or use about:blank.
- Load Edge in its safe mode.
- Reset Edge.
- Load Windows 10 in its safe mode w/networking.
- Temporarily disable all non-MS anti-virus and other security software.
- Load Edge using its protocol, as in "microsoft-edge:urltosite".

The most likely source of clues might lie in this composite screenshot
of Event Viewer. Whenever an attempt is made to open Edge, Event 1000
occurs and is then repeatedly followed by 21, 37, 38 and 22.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qx1r2zdoo9...e-1..jpg?raw=1

The appcontainer is to sandbox webapps. It was added back in Win8 for
store apps. That's why I asked if you tried starting Edge in its safe
mode to get rid of any and all extensions you installed into Edge. If
you have old extensions, especially those requiring ActiveX, they won't
run inside an appcontainer. Edge runs inside an appcontainer. Some
extensions, like Flash, are run in their own appcontainer. See:

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/...-edge-sandbox/
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...iner-isolation

Since one of the errors involves CreateAppContainerProfile, looks like
an appcontainer process cannot be generated to host the Edge app. I've
found some articles that the error might be about connecting
(registering) to the Windows Firewall. Is that enabled? Users can
encounter problems even with the Start Menu or Windows taskbar if the
Window Firewall isn't working. What other non-Microsoft anti-malware or
security software have you installed?

Were you ever hit with malware? Did some security software do a
disinfection? That might remove the active components of malware but it
does NOT return the OS back to a state prior to infection. Malware can
make lots of changes that remain after it gets disinfected. Might be
time for a fresh install of the OS.

Have you yet got rid of ClassicShell? Again, as mentioned, similar to
malware, uninstalling it may not undo all the changes it made.

Anyone know how to gain the permission I asked about please?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Ken Blake wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 16:01:25 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.




Here's my suggestion: stop trying to use Edge (the *worst* of all
available browsers, in my opinion) and switch to almost any other
browser. My personal choice is FireFox.

I don't use edge. My preferred browser is Waterfox. But the OS and some
MS apps frequently try to use Edge.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Paul wrote:

Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 16:01:25 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.




Here's my suggestion: stop trying to use Edge (the *worst* of all
available browsers, in my opinion) and switch to almost any other
browser. My personal choice is FireFox.

My suggestion was to try creating a new user account.

As portions of Store programs are in Appdata.
A new account means a new Appdata.

If Edge doesn't spray the Event Viewer with error 5 permission
issues while doing process isolation (containers), then you know
it's either the code portion in your current account, or the
data portion (including the Edge archive files).

One of the popular (usually factual) windows websites, suggested
deleting the folder with the code, then using the usual command
to reinstall Edge.

That's very similar to the suggested method that I was trying to
implement and which prompted my request for help in achieving the
necessary permissions.

And the reason they do it that way, is Edge
has the in-box bit set, so it's not removable (I flipped that
bit and tried to remove Edge, but all that seemed to do is
remove the icon). You cannot uninstall it and expect it to be
fully uninstalled. So what that web site was doing, is deleting
the folder, then doing a reinstall in Powershell (in your
current account).

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/reset...-in-windows-10

Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers -Name Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge | Foreach
{Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register
"$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml" -Verbose}

I can never be sure, with commands like that, where the AppXManifest.xml
is coming from... From the folder you just deleted ?

Paul

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Terry Pinnell wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly. I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain.
Are some of those methods included in the following?

- NOT define a home page in Edge, or use about:blank.
- Load Edge in its safe mode.
- Reset Edge.
- Load Windows 10 in its safe mode w/networking.
- Temporarily disable all non-MS anti-virus and other security software.
- Load Edge using its protocol, as in "microsoft-edge:urltosite".

The most likely source of clues might lie in this composite screenshot
of Event Viewer. Whenever an attempt is made to open Edge, Event 1000
occurs and is then repeatedly followed by 21, 37, 38 and 22.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qx1r2zdoo9...e-1..jpg?raw=1
The appcontainer is to sandbox webapps. It was added back in Win8 for
store apps. That's why I asked if you tried starting Edge in its safe
mode to get rid of any and all extensions you installed into Edge. If
you have old extensions, especially those requiring ActiveX, they won't
run inside an appcontainer. Edge runs inside an appcontainer. Some
extensions, like Flash, are run in their own appcontainer. See:

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/...-edge-sandbox/
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...iner-isolation

Since one of the errors involves CreateAppContainerProfile, looks like
an appcontainer process cannot be generated to host the Edge app. I've
found some articles that the error might be about connecting
(registering) to the Windows Firewall. Is that enabled? Users can
encounter problems even with the Start Menu or Windows taskbar if the
Window Firewall isn't working. What other non-Microsoft anti-malware or
security software have you installed?

Were you ever hit with malware? Did some security software do a
disinfection? That might remove the active components of malware but it
does NOT return the OS back to a state prior to infection. Malware can
make lots of changes that remain after it gets disinfected. Might be
time for a fresh install of the OS.

Have you yet got rid of ClassicShell? Again, as mentioned, similar to
malware, uninstalling it may not undo all the changes it made.

Anyone know how to gain the permission I asked about please?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

I thought I put up a slide for this the other day.
Don't remember which thread though.

https://s22.postimg.cc/ktpilht29/ele..._installer.gif

Some instructions. In this post, I demonstrate deleting a 7Z EXE
file from Program Files folder. Without changing the permissions
on the item at all. Just elevating myself sufficiently. Steps
1 through 4, not the "appendix" section.



http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...nt-email.me%3E

TrustedInstaller is only available as a "token". It's not
a conventional account. It doesn't have a home directory.
It doesn't have a password. The token is "copied" from the
Windows Module Installer service. This is why one of the slides
shows me starting WMI, just before issuing a command that
needs to copy that token.

It's not really "Higher Than Administrator", but more
an issue of being "More obscure than Administrator".
"Getting the power, is half the fun."

Paul

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 09:54:36 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 16:01:25 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.




Here's my suggestion: stop trying to use Edge (the *worst* of all
available browsers, in my opinion) and switch to almost any other
browser. My personal choice is FireFox.

I agree with that. Edge is very poor. I've been using Chrome since
Google first produced it. I use bookmarks rather than shortcuts.

Steve
--
http://www.npsnn.com

Paul wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly. I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain.
Are some of those methods included in the following?

- NOT define a home page in Edge, or use about:blank.
- Load Edge in its safe mode.
- Reset Edge.
- Load Windows 10 in its safe mode w/networking.
- Temporarily disable all non-MS anti-virus and other security software.
- Load Edge using its protocol, as in "microsoft-edge:urltosite".

The most likely source of clues might lie in this composite screenshot
of Event Viewer. Whenever an attempt is made to open Edge, Event 1000
occurs and is then repeatedly followed by 21, 37, 38 and 22.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qx1r2zdoo9...e-1..jpg?raw=1
The appcontainer is to sandbox webapps. It was added back in Win8 for
store apps. That's why I asked if you tried starting Edge in its safe
mode to get rid of any and all extensions you installed into Edge. If
you have old extensions, especially those requiring ActiveX, they won't
run inside an appcontainer. Edge runs inside an appcontainer. Some
extensions, like Flash, are run in their own appcontainer. See:

https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/...-edge-sandbox/
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...iner-isolation

Since one of the errors involves CreateAppContainerProfile, looks like
an appcontainer process cannot be generated to host the Edge app. I've
found some articles that the error might be about connecting
(registering) to the Windows Firewall. Is that enabled? Users can
encounter problems even with the Start Menu or Windows taskbar if the
Window Firewall isn't working. What other non-Microsoft anti-malware or
security software have you installed?

Were you ever hit with malware? Did some security software do a
disinfection? That might remove the active components of malware but it
does NOT return the OS back to a state prior to infection. Malware can
make lots of changes that remain after it gets disinfected. Might be
time for a fresh install of the OS.

Have you yet got rid of ClassicShell? Again, as mentioned, similar to
malware, uninstalling it may not undo all the changes it made.

Anyone know how to gain the permission I asked about please?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

I thought I put up a slide for this the other day.
Don't remember which thread though.

https://s22.postimg.cc/ktpilht29/ele..._installer.gif

Some instructions. In this post, I demonstrate deleting a 7Z EXE
file from Program Files folder. Without changing the permissions
on the item at all. Just elevating myself sufficiently. Steps
1 through 4, not the "appendix" section.



http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi...nt-email.me%3E

TrustedInstaller is only available as a "token". It's not
a conventional account. It doesn't have a home directory.
It doesn't have a password. The token is "copied" from the
Windows Module Installer service. This is why one of the slides
shows me starting WMI, just before issuing a command that
needs to copy that token.

It's not really "Higher Than Administrator", but more
an issue of being "More obscure than Administrator".
"Getting the power, is half the fun."

Paul

I got as far as assembling the ingredients but before embarking on that
(to me) very complicated procedure (just to delete one of the folders on
my solo-usage PC) I researched further. So far in vain.

Has anyone had success with the much simpler methods described here?
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

I didn't. After taking ownership (apparently successfully according to
the PS message) by any of the methods and to either TERRY-2016 or the
Administrators Group or Trusted Installer, I was still told I'd need
permission.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 09:54:36 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Sun, 04 Nov 2018 16:01:25 +0000, Terry Pinnell
wrote:

Trying to open Edge by any method fails. An empty window pops up only
briefly.

I've tried several suggested fixes so far in vain. Most attempts were
handicapped because I also had a freezing mouse problem. Now that's
fixed I'll repeat some 'fixes' methodically, but would appreciate any
suggestions please.




Here's my suggestion: stop trying to use Edge (the *worst* of all
available browsers, in my opinion) and switch to almost any other
browser. My personal choice is FireFox.

I agree with that. Edge is very poor. I've been using Chrome since
Google first produced it. I use bookmarks rather than shortcuts.

Steve

I assume you didn't read my reply yesterday to Ken Blake.

On 05/11/2018 09:49, Stephen Wolstenholme wrote:
I agree with that. Edge is very poor. I've been using Chrome since
Google first produced it. I use bookmarks rather than shortcuts. Steve

You need your brain to be examined. If you haven't used Edge then you
have no credibility to comment about it. when did you last use
Microsoft Edge?

I use Edge and it is my default browser. Firefox comes second.

You guys should refrain from making unfounded and untested comments on
these newsgroups. What you do is your business but you should not
impose your views on people who wants to try the latest technology.
You are too old and you may die within weeks but most users of Windows
10 have nearly 40 or even 50 years ahead of them. They can't keep using
old technology that you are using now. You are here today gone tomorrow.

Go and blow yourself up; you little swine.

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