O.T. Missing Folder/files

Yes, I did all that and now I can open the sites.

So lets uninstall and test Sea Monkey now. I started to
before but I stopped because it said Mozilla Firefox
Uninstall . Should I have clicked next?

https://postimg.cc/1fZpvrtY

After testing Sea Monkey I think it's prudent we
create at least (1) clone for each computer. Of course,
if the backspace functions after testing Sea Monkey we
can proceed with cloning. Should we create also a
Mrimg ring and a system restore point before doing so?

Robert

I actually did look at the switch when I when I
put the battery in. I removed the front cover to
look at it (I should of taken pics) It looks OK to
me although I didn't spend allot of time examining
it and I can't tell if they are the same kind of switch
nor would I be able to but it didn't appear to be loose
or broken.

The switch you showed me is only $19.00+ shipping.

https://www.newegg.com/p/1HD-0021-00...quicklink=true

You mean check where the switch connects to the board?
I had to look up PSON and I'm trying to understand what
your saying but its beyond me. However, I can check where
the switch connects to the board to make sure its not loose
if you think I should. I'm just afraid of screwing something
up.

Macrium had another update Ver 7.3.5925 on the 8500 and
this time successful but nothing for the 780.

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
Yes, I did all that and now I can open the sites.

So lets uninstall and test Sea Monkey now. I started to
before but I stopped because it said Mozilla Firefox
Uninstall . Should I have clicked next?

https://postimg.cc/1fZpvrtY

After testing Sea Monkey I think it's prudent we
create at least (1) clone for each computer. Of course,
if the backspace functions after testing Sea Monkey we
can proceed with cloning. Should we create also a
Mrimg ring and a system restore point before doing so?

Robert

I think you selected "Helper.exe" belonging to Firefox.

You want the "Helper.exe" belonging to the Seamonkey folder.
The folder name that Helper.exe is in, is entitled "Uninstall" or "Uninstaller",
something like that. But it's in a tree with Seamonkey somewhere
in the pathname.

If you selected the correct one, the labeling would say
"Would you like to remove Seamonkey", correct ?

You would only click "Next" if "all your ducks were in a row" :-)

*******

Removing Firefox wouldn't hurt it. You'd want to reinstall with
the same version or a newer version, to align with the Firefox
profile folder.

You see, the thing is, the installers for these programs,
they have "migration" logic. If they're at "Version 4",
they can migrate

2 == 4
3 == 4
4 == 4 (tool realizes the version did not change, nothing need be done)

5 == 4 No, cannot go backwards, no logic for this
6 == 4 No, cannot go backwards, no logic for this

The installers are designed to move forward in time, but
not to support going backwards. If you ever need to plan
for going slightly backwards, you have to keep copies of the
older folders for that to work.

As for the idea "how do you figure out what folders are needed
to make a program work", you don't really know at first, how
it's all lashed together. and nothing says the documentation
is of good quality either.

There was a program called MozBackup, the purpose of which
was to keep the materials in question. As I understand it,
the person who wrote that, no longer supports it.

Paul

I un-installed Sea Monkey but then I was left without
my bookmark menu. So I went to open my bookmarks
and found manage bookmarks but unsure how to proceed?

https://postimg.cc/ZvWX0Sbb

https://postimg.cc/MvjhSq3t

https://postimg.cc/bGqMkbyF

https://postimg.cc/w7JbrF3G

https://postimg.cc/McssBFrv

https://postimg.cc/N95dkkWb

https://postimg.cc/64ZzD56v

Do I click import and backup? and export bookmarks to
HTML? or do I select restore?

In passing the backspace key still did not function.

So after I get my bookmark menu back I install the new
version of Sea Monkey on the 780 and the 8500 and both
should update since they never did have a valid installation,
is that correct?

I guess I missed your instructions:

1) Enter "about:config" in the URL bar.
2) Follow the safety prompt.
3) In the search bar, look for "media.hardwaremediakeys.enabled"
A value of True makes in interfere. A value of False stops
the interference. Double-clicking the line toggles the Boolean
value on the line. Visually verify it is True, double click, then
it will be False as desired.
4) Close the Configuration Editor window.
5) Shut down and restart Firefox, to be sure.

I tried but it says invalid URL so maybe I can do this once I get
my menu back.

So we still have the backspace key problem but I think
its prudent we create at least (1) hd backup for each computer
at this point.

In passing, I only want the switch as a backup because the
8500 is getting harder and harder to start. Yes, I can still
check to make sure it's seated on the motherboard.

Thoughts/suggestions
Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
I un-installed Sea Monkey but then I was left without
my bookmark menu. So I went to open my bookmarks
and found manage bookmarks but unsure how to proceed?

https://postimg.cc/ZvWX0Sbb

https://postimg.cc/MvjhSq3t

https://postimg.cc/bGqMkbyF

https://postimg.cc/w7JbrF3G

https://postimg.cc/McssBFrv

https://postimg.cc/N95dkkWb

https://postimg.cc/64ZzD56v

Do I click import and backup? and export bookmarks to
HTML? or do I select restore?

In passing the backspace key still did not function.

So after I get my bookmark menu back I install the new
version of Sea Monkey on the 780 and the 8500 and both
should update since they never did have a valid installation,
is that correct?

I guess I missed your instructions:

1) Enter "about:config" in the URL bar.
2) Follow the safety prompt.
3) In the search bar, look for "media.hardwaremediakeys.enabled"
A value of True makes in interfere. A value of False stops
the interference. Double-clicking the line toggles the Boolean
value on the line. Visually verify it is True, double click, then
it will be False as desired.
4) Close the Configuration Editor window.
5) Shut down and restart Firefox, to be sure.

I tried but it says invalid URL so maybe I can do this once I get
my menu back.

So we still have the backspace key problem but I think
its prudent we create at least (1) hd backup for each computer
at this point.

In passing, I only want the switch as a backup because the
8500 is getting harder and harder to start. Yes, I can still
check to make sure it's seated on the motherboard.

Thoughts/suggestions
Robert


OK, so it looks like you uninstalled Seamonkey.

The pictures don't indicate that Seamonkey is installed now.

You then seem to have reached for Firefox, with the intention
of adjusting "about:config".

And at the same time, you are worried about your Firefox bookmarks ?

Were the Firefox bookmarks working before ?

Is Firefox fully functional at the moment ?

Firefox and Seamonkey keep separate folders for their
materials, in their respective Profile folders. Modifying
Seamonkey should not modify Firefox. Removing Seamonkey should
not remove the Seamonkey Profile folders.

In the Firefox Bookmarks Manager, you would use Import to Import
an HTML file. Maybe you keep the HTML file on the USB key ?
Should the USB key be plugged into the machine needing
some bookmarks ? Then you'd navigate to the USB key
and find the bookmarks there or so.

You know where the latest Export Bookmarks is kept.

"about:config" and "about:blank" are two different animals.

The first one, brings up the Configuration Editor.

The second one, is used in the Home Page setup in the preferences,
to cause a blank page to appear for "least Firefox startup activity".

You can type those values into the URL box.

Paul

Yes, the FF bookmarks were working before.

FF is not functional and is a blank screen.

https://postimg.cc/Sjnbv9Bz

The HTML is not on a flash key, I would need some direction from
you to do that . I do not know where the latest bookmarks are
kept unless you mean the Mrimgs?

I tried typing about:config on the black and it does nothing.

https://postimg.cc/XGhmb2RB

Please help me restore the bookmarks

Thanks,
Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
Yes, the FF bookmarks were working before.

FF is not functional and is a blank screen.

https://postimg.cc/Sjnbv9Bz

The HTML is not on a flash key, I would need some direction from
you to do that . I do not know where the latest bookmarks are
kept unless you mean the Mrimgs?

I tried typing about:config on the black and it does nothing.

https://postimg.cc/XGhmb2RB

Please help me restore the bookmarks

Thanks,
Robert


"about:config" has no space characters in it. Double-check.

You can start by entering "about:", six characters total,
and seeing if the program will tell you its version or not.

Paul

I tried just 'about' but it seemed to only want to search google
I tried 3 times and it just wouldn't stay plain.

https://postimg.cc/bZBdM5pf

https://postimg.cc/wRgBL8cL

I tired it again and it worked but I couldn't proceed further
because I didn't know what preferences to enter.

https://postimg.cc/z3ssdS92

https://postimg.cc/DWwHWCX0

Before we do any more on the about:config can we please
bring my my bookmarks back first?

Thanks,
Robert

Is this correct and should I proceed ?

https://postimg.cc/ZCbdQRCG

https://postimg.cc/KR0Mh2TR

Robert

As far as Sea Monkey, I understand what you're telling me about
backups having to be sequential and all but as you say it did do
something weird and did not install properly so we have to handle
this with care otherwise we will be in the same situation as the other
guy. That's why I asked if I should download the new version on the
8500 and maybe it will install correctly? As for the 780, the only link
I have for Sea Monkey to download is the new version so how could
it revert to the older version if I've uninstalled it?

However, we shouldn't loose sight of our original main goal which
was to clone the (4) hd's and I still think it's important we create at
least (1) clone for each computers asap before something happens
and I can't recover from. I can always copy over them if we find the
solution to the backspace key etc. correct?

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
As far as Sea Monkey, I understand what you're telling me about
backups having to be sequential and all but as you say it did do
something weird and did not install properly so we have to handle
this with care otherwise we will be in the same situation as the other
guy. That's why I asked if I should download the new version on the
8500 and maybe it will install correctly? As for the 780, the only link
I have for Sea Monkey to download is the new version so how could
it revert to the older version if I've uninstalled it?

However, we shouldn't loose sight of our original main goal which
was to clone the (4) hd's and I still think it's important we create at
least (1) clone for each computers asap before something happens
and I can't recover from. I can always copy over them if we find the
solution to the backspace key etc. correct?

Robert

Cloning using Macrium is pretty easy, being careful to
copy the "Boot" and "System" partitions, as seen in Disk Management
(diskmgmt.msc). If the original drive had three partitions,
you might clone over two of them.

*******

https://postimg.cc/DWwHWCX0

media.hardwaremediakeys.enabled

and that preference should be False. Double-click it
until it reads False. There is one picture here, similar
to yours, with the sample typed in. Theirs shows True
while you want False.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/firefo...ltimedia-keys/

*******

Your bookmarks issue.

https://postimg.cc/ZCbdQRCG

https://postimg.cc/KR0Mh2TR

Does the 780 have the same bookmarks as the 8500 ?

The item you show in the first picture, has 33 items.
Does this seem like the correct item count ?

If so, then you can Restore that list.

If on the other hand, you are looking for the 8500 bookmarks,
perhaps you should

Use the Bookmarks Manager on the 8500

Do an Export, store the Export on a USB key

Take it over to the 780.

On the 780, do an Import of the HTML file there.

It depends on whether you keep two separate Bookmark files
on purpose, a different list on the 8500 versus the 780,
as to which list you Export/Import there.

If on the other hand, you think the 33 items has simply
disappeared, then restoring the item in the backup store
listing 33 items, is the correct thing to do.

These are judgment issues I can't answer, and you know
your data best.

Summary: Two mechanisms.

Restore, restores damage to the current list using
copies stored in the same profile folder.

Whereas the Export/Import mechanism allows bringing
a foreign list of bookmarks over to another machine.

Paul

I have taken screen shots of all your instructions
you gave me and saved them into a folder for Mrimg
backups, restoring and cloning.

As you can see the preference was true and I double
clicked it so it's false.

https://postimg.cc/4KQL7HvN

https://postimg.cc/KR307H7W


I keep two separate backup systems. The 780 only has the
bare minimum of bookmarks. It's sort of an 'auxiliary control'
if you will for the 8500; that's its sole function to serve as a
backup computer should I need it. The 8500 in contrast has
lots of bookmarks folders/files etc. and where I do all my work.

Since the date was only 1 day ago I wouldn't lose a thing. I
restored the 780 bookmarks and the bookmark menu still
doesn't appear and it looks weird. I'm not worried so much about
the 33 items as I am about the bookmark menu itself. I can put
all of those items back easily but I need the bookmark menu back
on the left side as it normally would be.

https://postimg.cc/TLP9K7YC

Am I doing something wrong? I can access them if I go into
manage folders but I shouldn't have to. It should have the
bookmarks menu open on the left hand side like the 8500
and like it use to be on the 780 but it doesn't. I did a search
and found this. Next to my bookmark toolbar when I put the
mouse on it says 'getting started'. Should I proceed?

To enable the Bookmarks Toolbar:
1. Click on the menu button , then click. Customize Toolbar… ...
2. Select Toolbars from the dropdown menu at the bottom of the screen.
3. Select Bookmarks Toolbar. ...
4. Click the Done button when you're finished.


Thoughts/suggestions
Robert

Robert in CA wrote:

I have taken screen shots of all your instructions
you gave me and saved them into a folder for Mrimg
backups, restoring and cloning.

As you can see the preference was true and I double
clicked it so it's false.

https://postimg.cc/4KQL7HvN

https://postimg.cc/KR307H7W


I keep two separate backup systems. The 780 only has the
bare minimum of bookmarks. It's sort of an 'auxiliary control'
if you will for the 8500; that's its sole function to serve as a
backup computer should I need it. The 8500 in contrast has
lots of bookmarks folders/files etc. and where I do all my work.

Since the date was only 1 day ago I wouldn't lose a thing. I
restored the 780 bookmarks and the bookmark menu still
doesn't appear and it looks weird. I'm not worried so much about
the 33 items as I am about the bookmark menu itself. I can put
all of those items back easily but I need the bookmark menu back
on the left side as it normally would be.

https://postimg.cc/TLP9K7YC

Am I doing something wrong? I can access them if I go into
manage folders but I shouldn't have to. It should have the
bookmarks menu open on the left hand side like the 8500
and like it use to be on the 780 but it doesn't. I did a search
and found this. Next to my bookmark toolbar when I put the
mouse on it says 'getting started'. Should I proceed?

To enable the Bookmarks Toolbar:
1. Click on the menu button , then click. Customize Toolbar… ...
2. Select Toolbars from the dropdown menu at the bottom of the screen.
3. Select Bookmarks Toolbar. ...
4. Click the Done button when you're finished.


Thoughts/suggestions
Robert

Well, I don't want to start there.

Go to Bookmark Manager, select the Export option
and Export the current bookmarks to a file.

Now, open Notepad, navigate to where you stored
the Exported HTML file. Examine the entries.
Do you see the entries that are missing, in the
file ?

Say, for example, you're missing a bankofamerica item,
you could go into Notepad and search for bankofamerica.
Is the entry in there ?

The Bookmarks has two kinds of items. It has data
entries. It also has "separators and decorations".

Your job is to inspect the Exported Bookmarks and
see if content really is missing. It might just
be hidden.

If you suspect the file is "mostly content complete",
you can go back to the GUI version and try and figure
out why.

On mine when this happens, I usually open a subsection
(one of the triangle things) and my missing ones are
in there and they haven't really disappeared.

But to be "editable" or "recoverable", the lines
with the URLs have to be in there, or, they're not
coming back and you would need to restore some
other item from the archives.

Your picture is not suggestive of a "hiding place",
and that's why I'm asking for some Notepad work first.
To see if you're satisfied with what is in there, or,
that the contents are a shambles and you should be looking
elsewhere for another version to try.

Paul

The 780 had a successful Macrium update V 7.3.5854 to Ver 7.3.5925

I followed your instructions and the bookmark's themselves all look intact.
All I'm missing is the actual bookmark menu. In other words to return the
screen to 'normal'. I don't remember hitting key or doing anything to cause
this? It just happened after uninstalling Sea Monkey.


https://postimg.cc/Xrxhhsx3

https://postimg.cc/v4Shfk31

https://postimg.cc/vDdJ4x4J

https://postimg.cc/FY1qMj6L

Robert

In passing the 780 had an optional update that it failed (4) times.

https://postimg.cc/rdZp8Cy2

https://postimg.cc/XZjZNYwd

https://postimg.cc/5YGjm5DS

Robert