O.T. Avast pop-up

Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 7:33:23 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
I went back and re-read how all this started when we were originally
setting everything up to get the Windows 10 key just in case I needed
it and I just ran Smart scan by chance and all this came up.

So I ran it again:

http://i64.tinypic.com/a5g6tc.jpg Avast scareware

http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/xmomlx.jpg

Robert

In the "Avast scareware" picture, read this article.

AV programs are primarily for their AV coverage.

The added bloat is sometimes, wildly bad.

https://www.howtogeek.com/239950/don...you-less-safe/

Where it says "Hackers could hijack your DNS settings",
yeah, I suppose they could, and it could also snow in July.

OK, so the trigger in this case, is probably the recent
"repair" of the Wifi entry in Device Manager. If you're
not using that Wifi adapter, you can select "Disable" in
Device Manager. Then Avast will stop scanning it and coming
up with corny messages.

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=219895.0

I appreciate this scareware more, when there is a
corresponding webpage where the "method" is elucidated.

The "3 primary folders" thing ? Windows 10 has a feature
for locking down folders that you select, which may have
some merit. But there is likely to be a "Mother May I"
ceremony when you go to use the folders.

The closest "Exploit Guard" gets to Windows 7, is for Windows 7 Enterprise
users. Basically what Exploit Guard does, is only allow certain
applications you "bless", to write to selected folders.

https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/13/wi...ows-7-and-8-1/

If you aren't aware of it yet, the industry is like a
tree with a very flexible trunk. The wind always
seems to blow in the direction that makes money. Every
company uses "scareware" and not putting features in
certain products, as part of the "marketing strategy".
It's like shearing sheep, when if comes to security.

As for your router itself, a little Googling using

make model number exploit

for your make and model, might give some idea whether
it needs a firmware update.

Paul

A quick reply after reading the article and follow their links'to see if I'm infected. It seems I'm am with man-in-the-middle because my system says something different than Google Internet Authority or Geo Trust Global.

http://i64.tinypic.com/15n8xh5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/w86mx1.jpg

Robert

I thought I saw Avast as an "issuer" on that page.

Is Avast doing that ? Some AVs act as a man in the middle
and mess with certificates themselves.

Paul

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
Your USB device is Intel.

We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7,
as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8
and Win10 would have solved this on their own.
[]
Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other
words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and
_doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2
speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces.
Kathy
Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17

Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I
have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does
this mean something else?

Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and
while I still can until
we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We
eliminated one but the other is still present.
Robert
Thanks,
Robert
We will solve this. It's just a matter of
banging on the pipes a few more times.

Paul
https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html

Last Reviewed 03/08/2019

Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0
eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/

"Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family"

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

5,472,920 bytes

iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver.

In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and
locate that x64 folder.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\

Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it.

Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the
"Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with
the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder
with the eight files, it will install the correct one.

That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****.

HTH,
Paul



I did make (4) Delll Data Safe DVD-R (10-3-16)and have the 8500
rescue media CD-RW (7-25-15) and a Win 7 Pro master DVD-RW.

I checked all the folders and couldn't find anything with 500MB,
all KB. Here's the 1st disc and the 2-4 were all the same and
disabled the port


http://i68.tinypic.com/2uqit21.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/5tbno.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/xdia6a.jpg


I don't have 7Zip, could you please give me a link for it?

Thanks,
Robert


I just asked about your recovery disks, because sometimes
one of the discs is a separate driver disc.

As for 7-zip...

https://www.7-zip.org/

there are two download links under the green. The current
version is 1900. On a 64-bit OS, you can select the
64-bit one.

Once 7ZIP is installed, you will have right-click options.
Right-click the EXE from Intel and you can

7ZIP : Open Archive

as an example. You can select a particular folder and
click the "Extract" button at the top. It will ask
where you want to store the folder, and the default
location would be next to where the EXE file is stored.

The EXE would also run and make a folder for you, but
who knows where it would be put.

For me, 7ZIP is a major tool for "peering inside stuff".
The program does not handle every format - it doesn't
have packers like UPX in it or a thing to bust
InstallShield. But for regular archives, it is pretty
good.

Paul


I installed 7Zip but this is what it gives me
and then changed:

http://i64.tinypic.com/21osak5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/ohpenn.jpg

Do I add to acrhive? or Add to 7Zip.zip?

Thanks,
Robert

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:56:22 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 7:33:23 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
I went back and re-read how all this started when we were originally
setting everything up to get the Windows 10 key just in case I needed
it and I just ran Smart scan by chance and all this came up.

So I ran it again:

http://i64.tinypic.com/a5g6tc.jpg Avast scareware

http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/xmomlx.jpg

Robert

In the "Avast scareware" picture, read this article.

AV programs are primarily for their AV coverage.

The added bloat is sometimes, wildly bad.

https://www.howtogeek.com/239950/don...you-less-safe/

Where it says "Hackers could hijack your DNS settings",
yeah, I suppose they could, and it could also snow in July.

OK, so the trigger in this case, is probably the recent
"repair" of the Wifi entry in Device Manager. If you're
not using that Wifi adapter, you can select "Disable" in
Device Manager. Then Avast will stop scanning it and coming
up with corny messages.

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=219895.0

I appreciate this scareware more, when there is a
corresponding webpage where the "method" is elucidated.

The "3 primary folders" thing ? Windows 10 has a feature
for locking down folders that you select, which may have
some merit. But there is likely to be a "Mother May I"
ceremony when you go to use the folders.

The closest "Exploit Guard" gets to Windows 7, is for Windows 7 Enterprise
users. Basically what Exploit Guard does, is only allow certain
applications you "bless", to write to selected folders.

https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/13/wi...ows-7-and-8-1/

If you aren't aware of it yet, the industry is like a
tree with a very flexible trunk. The wind always
seems to blow in the direction that makes money. Every
company uses "scareware" and not putting features in
certain products, as part of the "marketing strategy".
It's like shearing sheep, when if comes to security.

As for your router itself, a little Googling using

make model number exploit

for your make and model, might give some idea whether
it needs a firmware update.

Paul

A quick reply after reading the article and follow their links'to see if I'm infected. It seems I'm am with man-in-the-middle because my system says something different than Google Internet Authority or Geo Trust Global.

http://i64.tinypic.com/15n8xh5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/w86mx1.jpg

Robert

I thought I saw Avast as an "issuer" on that page.

Is Avast doing that ? Some AVs act as a man in the middle
and mess with certificates themselves.

Paul


I don't know who's doing it but I thought I
should show it to you after reading the link
you gave which had further links which described
exactly what is going on with my computer and
they had a verification link to test if I was
infected.

and gave you the results.

Robert

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
Your USB device is Intel.

We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7,
as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8
and Win10 would have solved this on their own.
[]
Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other
words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and
_doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2
speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces.
Kathy
Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17

Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I
have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does
this mean something else?

Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and
while I still can until
we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We
eliminated one but the other is still present.
Robert
Thanks,
Robert
We will solve this. It's just a matter of
banging on the pipes a few more times.

Paul
https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html

Last Reviewed 03/08/2019

Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0
eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/

"Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family"

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

5,472,920 bytes

iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver.

In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and
locate that x64 folder.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\

Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it.

Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the
"Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with
the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder
with the eight files, it will install the correct one.

That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****.

HTH,
Paul



I did make (4) Delll Data Safe DVD-R (10-3-16)and have the 8500
rescue media CD-RW (7-25-15) and a Win 7 Pro master DVD-RW.

I checked all the folders and couldn't find anything with 500MB,
all KB. Here's the 1st disc and the 2-4 were all the same and
disabled the port


http://i68.tinypic.com/2uqit21.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/5tbno.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/xdia6a.jpg


I don't have 7Zip, could you please give me a link for it?

Thanks,
Robert


I just asked about your recovery disks, because sometimes
one of the discs is a separate driver disc.

As for 7-zip...

https://www.7-zip.org/

there are two download links under the green. The current
version is 1900. On a 64-bit OS, you can select the
64-bit one.

Once 7ZIP is installed, you will have right-click options.
Right-click the EXE from Intel and you can

7ZIP : Open Archive

as an example. You can select a particular folder and
click the "Extract" button at the top. It will ask
where you want to store the folder, and the default
location would be next to where the EXE file is stored.

The EXE would also run and make a folder for you, but
who knows where it would be put.

For me, 7ZIP is a major tool for "peering inside stuff".
The program does not handle every format - it doesn't
have packers like UPX in it or a thing to bust
InstallShield. But for regular archives, it is pretty
good.

Paul

I'm not fully understanding on how to use 7Zip because
I have different pop-ups? How do I proceed please?

Thanks,
Robert

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:56:22 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 7:33:23 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
I went back and re-read how all this started when we were originally
setting everything up to get the Windows 10 key just in case I needed
it and I just ran Smart scan by chance and all this came up.

So I ran it again:

http://i64.tinypic.com/a5g6tc.jpg Avast scareware

http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/xmomlx.jpg

Robert

In the "Avast scareware" picture, read this article.

AV programs are primarily for their AV coverage.

The added bloat is sometimes, wildly bad.

https://www.howtogeek.com/239950/don...you-less-safe/

Where it says "Hackers could hijack your DNS settings",
yeah, I suppose they could, and it could also snow in July.

OK, so the trigger in this case, is probably the recent
"repair" of the Wifi entry in Device Manager. If you're
not using that Wifi adapter, you can select "Disable" in
Device Manager. Then Avast will stop scanning it and coming
up with corny messages.

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=219895.0

I appreciate this scareware more, when there is a
corresponding webpage where the "method" is elucidated.

The "3 primary folders" thing ? Windows 10 has a feature
for locking down folders that you select, which may have
some merit. But there is likely to be a "Mother May I"
ceremony when you go to use the folders.

The closest "Exploit Guard" gets to Windows 7, is for Windows 7 Enterprise
users. Basically what Exploit Guard does, is only allow certain
applications you "bless", to write to selected folders.

https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/13/wi...ows-7-and-8-1/

If you aren't aware of it yet, the industry is like a
tree with a very flexible trunk. The wind always
seems to blow in the direction that makes money. Every
company uses "scareware" and not putting features in
certain products, as part of the "marketing strategy".
It's like shearing sheep, when if comes to security.

As for your router itself, a little Googling using

make model number exploit

for your make and model, might give some idea whether
it needs a firmware update.

Paul

A quick reply after reading the article and follow their links'to see if I'm infected. It seems I'm am with man-in-the-middle because my system says something different than Google Internet Authority or Geo Trust Global.

http://i64.tinypic.com/15n8xh5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/w86mx1.jpg

Robert

I thought I saw Avast as an "issuer" on that page.

Is Avast doing that ? Some AVs act as a man in the middle
and mess with certificates themselves.

Paul



Should I change any of these settings in Avast?

http://i65.tinypic.com/2rc0806.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2mhtn9e.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/148nof8.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/f2st50.jpg



Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
Your USB device is Intel.

We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7,
as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8
and Win10 would have solved this on their own.
[]
Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other
words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and
_doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2
speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces.
Kathy
Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17
Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I
have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does
this mean something else?

Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and
while I still can until
we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We
eliminated one but the other is still present.
Robert
Thanks,
Robert
We will solve this. It's just a matter of
banging on the pipes a few more times.

Paul
https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html

Last Reviewed 03/08/2019

Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0
eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/

"Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family"

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

5,472,920 bytes

iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver.

In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and
locate that x64 folder.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\

Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it.

Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the
"Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with
the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder
with the eight files, it will install the correct one.

That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****.

HTH,
Paul


I did make (4) Delll Data Safe DVD-R (10-3-16)and have the 8500
rescue media CD-RW (7-25-15) and a Win 7 Pro master DVD-RW.

I checked all the folders and couldn't find anything with 500MB,
all KB. Here's the 1st disc and the 2-4 were all the same and
disabled the port


http://i68.tinypic.com/2uqit21.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/5tbno.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/xdia6a.jpg


I don't have 7Zip, could you please give me a link for it?

Thanks,
Robert

I just asked about your recovery disks, because sometimes
one of the discs is a separate driver disc.

As for 7-zip...

https://www.7-zip.org/

there are two download links under the green. The current
version is 1900. On a 64-bit OS, you can select the
64-bit one.

Once 7ZIP is installed, you will have right-click options.
Right-click the EXE from Intel and you can

7ZIP : Open Archive

as an example. You can select a particular folder and
click the "Extract" button at the top. It will ask
where you want to store the folder, and the default
location would be next to where the EXE file is stored.

The EXE would also run and make a folder for you, but
who knows where it would be put.

For me, 7ZIP is a major tool for "peering inside stuff".
The program does not handle every format - it doesn't
have packers like UPX in it or a thing to bust
InstallShield. But for regular archives, it is pretty
good.

Paul


I installed 7Zip but this is what it gives me
and then changed:

http://i64.tinypic.com/21osak5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/ohpenn.jpg

Do I add to acrhive? or Add to 7Zip.zip?

Thanks,
Robert

Using File Explorer, navigate to the location where

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

is stored.

Right click the ZIP icon, select

7ZIP : Open Archive

then navigate within 7IZP window that opens, to the folder containing
the eight files.

If you go too far down, with the 7ZIP window open, use
the "Backspace" key to go up the hierarchy again.

Once you've located the particular x64 folder, select
that folder, then click the "Extract" button near the top
of the window.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\

Extract the "x64" folder,

which you feed to Device Manager as an Update Driver folder.

Later, you can rename the x64 folder to "My Intel USB3 Driver"
as you wish.

HTH,
Paul

Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:56:22 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 7:33:23 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
I went back and re-read how all this started when we were originally
setting everything up to get the Windows 10 key just in case I needed
it and I just ran Smart scan by chance and all this came up.

So I ran it again:

http://i64.tinypic.com/a5g6tc.jpg Avast scareware

http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/1y4wb8.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/xmomlx.jpg

Robert

In the "Avast scareware" picture, read this article.

AV programs are primarily for their AV coverage.

The added bloat is sometimes, wildly bad.

https://www.howtogeek.com/239950/don...you-less-safe/

Where it says "Hackers could hijack your DNS settings",
yeah, I suppose they could, and it could also snow in July.

OK, so the trigger in this case, is probably the recent
"repair" of the Wifi entry in Device Manager. If you're
not using that Wifi adapter, you can select "Disable" in
Device Manager. Then Avast will stop scanning it and coming
up with corny messages.

https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=219895.0

I appreciate this scareware more, when there is a
corresponding webpage where the "method" is elucidated.

The "3 primary folders" thing ? Windows 10 has a feature
for locking down folders that you select, which may have
some merit. But there is likely to be a "Mother May I"
ceremony when you go to use the folders.

The closest "Exploit Guard" gets to Windows 7, is for Windows 7 Enterprise
users. Basically what Exploit Guard does, is only allow certain
applications you "bless", to write to selected folders.

https://www.ghacks.net/2018/02/13/wi...ows-7-and-8-1/

If you aren't aware of it yet, the industry is like a
tree with a very flexible trunk. The wind always
seems to blow in the direction that makes money. Every
company uses "scareware" and not putting features in
certain products, as part of the "marketing strategy".
It's like shearing sheep, when if comes to security.

As for your router itself, a little Googling using

make model number exploit

for your make and model, might give some idea whether
it needs a firmware update.

Paul
A quick reply after reading the article and follow their links'to see if I'm infected. It seems I'm am with man-in-the-middle because my system says something different than Google Internet Authority or Geo Trust Global.

http://i64.tinypic.com/15n8xh5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/w86mx1.jpg

Robert
I thought I saw Avast as an "issuer" on that page.

Is Avast doing that ? Some AVs act as a man in the middle
and mess with certificates themselves.

Paul



Should I change any of these settings in Avast?

http://i65.tinypic.com/2rc0806.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2mhtn9e.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/148nof8.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/f2st50.jpg



Robert


https://lelutin.ca/posts/avast_condu...ity_practices/

Maybe the setting is in the Core Shields section ?

It should have words like "Mail" or "Web" in the
shield name, something like that. It could do a
MITM for the mail path or for the web (https) path,
which use certificates and substitute Avast
certificates instead. (This fools other software
into thinking an MITM is going on.)

Paul

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 1:36:05 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
Your USB device is Intel.

We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7,
as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8
and Win10 would have solved this on their own.
[]
Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other
words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and
_doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2
speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces.
Kathy
Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17
Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I
have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does
this mean something else?

Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and
while I still can until
we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We
eliminated one but the other is still present.
Robert
Thanks,
Robert
We will solve this. It's just a matter of
banging on the pipes a few more times.

Paul
https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html

Last Reviewed 03/08/2019

Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0
eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/

"Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family"

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

5,472,920 bytes

iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver.

In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and
locate that x64 folder.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\

Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it.

Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the
"Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with
the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder
with the eight files, it will install the correct one.

That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****.

HTH,
Paul


I did make (4) Delll Data Safe DVD-R (10-3-16)and have the 8500
rescue media CD-RW (7-25-15) and a Win 7 Pro master DVD-RW.

I checked all the folders and couldn't find anything with 500MB,
all KB. Here's the 1st disc and the 2-4 were all the same and
disabled the port


http://i68.tinypic.com/2uqit21.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/5tbno.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/xdia6a.jpg


I don't have 7Zip, could you please give me a link for it?

Thanks,
Robert

I just asked about your recovery disks, because sometimes
one of the discs is a separate driver disc.

As for 7-zip...

https://www.7-zip.org/

there are two download links under the green. The current
version is 1900. On a 64-bit OS, you can select the
64-bit one.

Once 7ZIP is installed, you will have right-click options.
Right-click the EXE from Intel and you can

7ZIP : Open Archive

as an example. You can select a particular folder and
click the "Extract" button at the top. It will ask
where you want to store the folder, and the default
location would be next to where the EXE file is stored.

The EXE would also run and make a folder for you, but
who knows where it would be put.

For me, 7ZIP is a major tool for "peering inside stuff".
The program does not handle every format - it doesn't
have packers like UPX in it or a thing to bust
InstallShield. But for regular archives, it is pretty
good.

Paul


I installed 7Zip but this is what it gives me
and then changed:

http://i64.tinypic.com/21osak5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/ohpenn.jpg

Do I add to acrhive? or Add to 7Zip.zip?

Thanks,
Robert

Using File Explorer, navigate to the location where

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

is stored.

Right click the ZIP icon, select

7ZIP : Open Archive

then navigate within 7IZP window that opens, to the folder containing
the eight files.

If you go too far down, with the 7ZIP window open, use
the "Backspace" key to go up the hierarchy again.

Once you've located the particular x64 folder, select
that folder, then click the "Extract" button near the top
of the window.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\

Extract the "x64" folder,

which you feed to Device Manager as an Update Driver folder.

Later, you can rename the x64 folder to "My Intel USB3 Driver"
as you wish.

HTH,
Paul

It gives the same result:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2rz3ssw.jpg

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 1:36:05 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
Your USB device is Intel.

We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7,
as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8
and Win10 would have solved this on their own.
[]
Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other
words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and
_doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2
speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces.
Kathy
Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17
Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I
have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does
this mean something else?

Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and
while I still can until
we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We
eliminated one but the other is still present.
Robert
Thanks,
Robert
We will solve this. It's just a matter of
banging on the pipes a few more times.

Paul
https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html

Last Reviewed 03/08/2019

Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0
eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/

"Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family"

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

5,472,920 bytes

iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver.

In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and
locate that x64 folder.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\

Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it.

Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the
"Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with
the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder
with the eight files, it will install the correct one.

That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****.

HTH,
Paul

I did make (4) Delll Data Safe DVD-R (10-3-16)and have the 8500
rescue media CD-RW (7-25-15) and a Win 7 Pro master DVD-RW.

I checked all the folders and couldn't find anything with 500MB,
all KB. Here's the 1st disc and the 2-4 were all the same and
disabled the port


http://i68.tinypic.com/2uqit21.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/5tbno.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/xdia6a.jpg


I don't have 7Zip, could you please give me a link for it?

Thanks,
Robert

I just asked about your recovery disks, because sometimes
one of the discs is a separate driver disc.

As for 7-zip...

https://www.7-zip.org/

there are two download links under the green. The current
version is 1900. On a 64-bit OS, you can select the
64-bit one.

Once 7ZIP is installed, you will have right-click options.
Right-click the EXE from Intel and you can

7ZIP : Open Archive

as an example. You can select a particular folder and
click the "Extract" button at the top. It will ask
where you want to store the folder, and the default
location would be next to where the EXE file is stored.

The EXE would also run and make a folder for you, but
who knows where it would be put.

For me, 7ZIP is a major tool for "peering inside stuff".
The program does not handle every format - it doesn't
have packers like UPX in it or a thing to bust
InstallShield. But for regular archives, it is pretty
good.

Paul

I installed 7Zip but this is what it gives me
and then changed:

http://i64.tinypic.com/21osak5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/ohpenn.jpg

Do I add to acrhive? or Add to 7Zip.zip?

Thanks,
Robert
Using File Explorer, navigate to the location where

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

is stored.

Right click the ZIP icon, select

7ZIP : Open Archive

then navigate within 7IZP window that opens, to the folder containing
the eight files.

If you go too far down, with the 7ZIP window open, use
the "Backspace" key to go up the hierarchy again.

Once you've located the particular x64 folder, select
that folder, then click the "Extract" button near the top
of the window.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\

Extract the "x64" folder,

which you feed to Device Manager as an Update Driver folder.

Later, you can rename the x64 folder to "My Intel USB3 Driver"
as you wish.

HTH,
Paul

It gives the same result:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2rz3ssw.jpg

Robert

OK, so what you're showing me is a *folder* by that name.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \

When I download the file from Intel, I get a *file* and
this is what I was using 7ZIP for.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

and when I right-click the .zip file, I'm offered an Open Archive option.
7ZIP opens a lot more than just .zip, which is why it's
a kind of "can opener" I keep on the computer.

You must have used some option to expand the archive
before 7ZIP even had a chance :-)

*******

OK, fine, if you have a folder, no sweat, go to Device
Manager now, Use "Update Driver" for the yellow-item, navigate to

C:\Users\RB\Downloads\Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_ Host_Controller_Driver\
Drivers\Win7\X64\

when it asks for a location to update with.

*******

There are a couple ways to update drivers.

A file can have, say, a .msi file and "install" the driver.

But some of the more pitiful drivers, require you to
"Update Driver" from Device Manager and tell it which
folder or subtree to use. Pointing it exactly
at the folder, may make the operation complete
a microsecond faster.

Paul

On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 3:57:05 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 1:36:05 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Friday, June 28, 2019 at 7:50:12 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Thursday, June 27, 2019 at 8:15:20 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
Your USB device is Intel.

We need an Intel chipset driver for Windows 7,
as Microsoft doesn't do USB3 in Windows 7. Win8
and Win10 would have solved this on their own.
[]
Is USB3 backwards compatible at the _hardware_ level - in other
words, if someone has USB3 hardware on a Windows 7 system, and
_doesn't_ get the necessary driver, will it work, but just at USB2
speeds? (And maybe USB3 current limits?)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

... she has never contracted A-listeria or developed airs and graces.
Kathy
Lette on Kylie, RT 2014/1/11-17
Let me see if I understand this.. all this concerns the USB ports? I
have blue colored ports on the 8500 and they work, OK.or does
this mean something else?

Also were working toward of getting a Windows 10 Key just in case and
while I still can until
we found these yellow triangles and now trying to remove them. We
eliminated one but the other is still present.
Robert
Thanks,
Robert
We will solve this. It's just a matter of
banging on the pipes a few more times.

Paul
https://www.intel.ca/content/www/ca/...-software.html

Last Reviewed 03/08/2019

Why did Intel release two Windows* 7 USB 3.0
eXtensible Host Controller (xHCI) drivers? === Why, indeed :-/

"Download USB 3.0 xHCI Windows* 7 driver for Intel 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family"

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Det...&DwnldID=21129

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

5,472,920 bytes

iusb3xhc.inf === Looks like the right driver.

In 7ZIP, I see this folder. You can unpack the ZIP and
locate that x64 folder.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\x64\

Unpack that folder, which has 8 files total in it.

Open Device Manager, locate the duff USB item, do the
"Update Driver" dance, tell it you have a folder with
the goods in it, when it sees your unpacked x64 folder
with the eight files, it will install the correct one.

That's better than some "machine.inf" bull****.

HTH,
Paul

I did make (4) Delll Data Safe DVD-R (10-3-16)and have the 8500
rescue media CD-RW (7-25-15) and a Win 7 Pro master DVD-RW.

I checked all the folders and couldn't find anything with 500MB,
all KB. Here's the 1st disc and the 2-4 were all the same and
disabled the port


http://i68.tinypic.com/2uqit21.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/5tbno.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/xdia6a.jpg


I don't have 7Zip, could you please give me a link for it?

Thanks,
Robert

I just asked about your recovery disks, because sometimes
one of the discs is a separate driver disc.

As for 7-zip...

https://www.7-zip.org/

there are two download links under the green. The current
version is 1900. On a 64-bit OS, you can select the
64-bit one.

Once 7ZIP is installed, you will have right-click options.
Right-click the EXE from Intel and you can

7ZIP : Open Archive

as an example. You can select a particular folder and
click the "Extract" button at the top. It will ask
where you want to store the folder, and the default
location would be next to where the EXE file is stored.

The EXE would also run and make a folder for you, but
who knows where it would be put.

For me, 7ZIP is a major tool for "peering inside stuff".
The program does not handle every format - it doesn't
have packers like UPX in it or a thing to bust
InstallShield. But for regular archives, it is pretty
good.

Paul

I installed 7Zip but this is what it gives me
and then changed:

http://i64.tinypic.com/21osak5.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/ohpenn.jpg

Do I add to acrhive? or Add to 7Zip.zip?

Thanks,
Robert
Using File Explorer, navigate to the location where

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

is stored.

Right click the ZIP icon, select

7ZIP : Open Archive

then navigate within 7IZP window that opens, to the folder containing
the eight files.

If you go too far down, with the 7ZIP window open, use
the "Backspace" key to go up the hierarchy again.

Once you've located the particular x64 folder, select
that folder, then click the "Extract" button near the top
of the window.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \Drivers\Win7\

Extract the "x64" folder,

which you feed to Device Manager as an Update Driver folder.

Later, you can rename the x64 folder to "My Intel USB3 Driver"
as you wish.

HTH,
Paul

It gives the same result:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2rz3ssw.jpg

Robert

OK, so what you're showing me is a *folder* by that name.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \

When I download the file from Intel, I get a *file* and
this is what I was using 7ZIP for.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver .zip

and when I right-click the .zip file, I'm offered an Open Archive option.
7ZIP opens a lot more than just .zip, which is why it's
a kind of "can opener" I keep on the computer.

You must have used some option to expand the archive
before 7ZIP even had a chance :-)

*******

OK, fine, if you have a folder, no sweat, go to Device
Manager now, Use "Update Driver" for the yellow-item, navigate to

C:\Users\RB\Downloads\Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_ Host_Controller_Driver\
Drivers\Win7\X64\

when it asks for a location to update with.

*******

There are a couple ways to update drivers.

A file can have, say, a .msi file and "install" the driver.

But some of the more pitiful drivers, require you to
"Update Driver" from Device Manager and tell it which
folder or subtree to use. Pointing it exactly
at the folder, may make the operation complete
a microsecond faster.

Paul

I installed it but it came back with this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg


Robert
Robert

So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?

I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues
before?

When and if we resolve the yellow triangle
issue will that resolve the man-in-the-middle
as well? Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.

Another thought I had was to take one of my spare
formatted HD's and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become
infected correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I
copy/paste My Documents for example or is there another
easier way?

In passing, I found earlier I could not connect
with the DNS sever and had to unplug the modem to
reconnect.

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:


I installed it but it came back with this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg

Robert

OK, go back to the top folder level, and give this a try.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \

setup.exe ===

I missed that the first time, in my rush to find
"any file with 1E31 in it". I was primarily concentrating
on seeing whether the driver had any chance of matching
your hardware or not.

HTH,
Paul

Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?

I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues
before?

When and if we resolve the yellow triangle
issue will that resolve the man-in-the-middle
as well?

It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.

As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.


Another thought I had was to take one of my spare
formatted HD's and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become
infected correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I
copy/paste My Documents for example or is there another
easier way?

OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.


In passing, I found earlier I could not connect
with the DNS sever and had to unplug the modem to
reconnect.

Robert


Sometimes, that's an ISP issue.

I can reboot mine, using my browser for control. But
sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 12:59:34 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:


I installed it but it came back with this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg

Robert

OK, go back to the top folder level, and give this a try.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \

setup.exe ===

I missed that the first time, in my rush to find
"any file with 1E31 in it". I was primarily concentrating
on seeing whether the driver had any chance of matching
your hardware or not.

HTH,
Paul


I tried it .

http://i68.tinypic.com/2w3uqvq.jpg

Robert

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:06:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?

I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues
before?

When and if we resolve the yellow triangle
issue will that resolve the man-in-the-middle
as well?

It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.

As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.


Another thought I had was to take one of my spare
formatted HD's and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become
infected correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I
copy/paste My Documents for example or is there another
easier way?

OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.

sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul


I was referring to the yellow triangle problem
and MITM problem,.. just trying to give you other
options of resolving them.


Even though I disabled the USB Controller my
certificate has changed so how do I restore that?
Even if we get a download that works and eliminates
the yellow triangle the certificate is still changed.


Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert