O.T. Avast pop-up

Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:06:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?

I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues
before?

When and if we resolve the yellow triangle
issue will that resolve the man-in-the-middle
as well?
It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.
As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.

Another thought I had was to take one of my spare
formatted HD's and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become
infected correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I
copy/paste My Documents for example or is there another
easier way?
OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.

sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul


I was referring to the yellow triangle problem
and MITM problem,.. just trying to give you other
options of resolving them.


Even though I disabled the USB Controller my
certificate has changed so how do I restore that?
Even if we get a download that works and eliminates
the yellow triangle the certificate is still changed.


Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert


These problems are not related.

The USB3 yellow entry, should be resolved by installing
the correct driver. Trying the "setup.exe" within
the folder you somehow already have unpacked, should
have done this for you.

*******

When Avast "mail" or "web" shields are turned on,
Avast seems to have the ability to insert Avast certificates
(you can see "Avast" as the issuer on the certificate).
If the certificate you were getting a complaint about
was not an Avast certificate, I would be more concerned
about the possibility something other than Avast was
doing that.

I also don't know right now, how you are getting this
certificate information. Are you accessing a certificate
store ? Are you checking the security status of a web
page by clicking some sort of lock icon in the interface ?
Just so I have some idea how you are able to observe
the certificate isn't the normal one.

If you were to turn off the Avast "web" shield right
now, what tool would you use to determine the
certificates have returned to normal ?

Paul

Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 12:59:34 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I installed it but it came back with this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg

Robert
OK, go back to the top folder level, and give this a try.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \

setup.exe ===

I missed that the first time, in my rush to find
"any file with 1E31 in it". I was primarily concentrating
on seeing whether the driver had any chance of matching
your hardware or not.

HTH,
Paul


I tried it .

http://i68.tinypic.com/2w3uqvq.jpg

Robert

OK, the key to this step, is examining what File Explorer
is telling you.

That line in your picture, that you selected.

Does the Type column say "Zip file" or does it say "Folder" ?

If it says "Zip file", *then* the right-click menu will have

7Zip : Open Archive

If the Type field says "Folder", then it's just a regular folder.
If you were to highlight a regular folder, 7ZIP assumes you
want to make an archive file out of the folder. That's
why it offers

7Zip : Add to Archive

because it assumes you want to go in the opposite direction.

When you click on a "File", that's when you get Open Archive.

When you click on a "Folder", you get "Add To Archive".

Two different context menus are offered, and they
are context sensitive.

*******

If that item is a folder by that name, open it and
see if a Setup.exe is in there.

Paul

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:47:09 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:06:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?

I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues
before?

When and if we resolve the yellow triangle
issue will that resolve the man-in-the-middle
as well?
It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.
As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.

Another thought I had was to take one of my spare
formatted HD's and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become
infected correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I
copy/paste My Documents for example or is there another
easier way?
OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.

sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul


I was referring to the yellow triangle problem
and MITM problem,.. just trying to give you other
options of resolving them.


Even though I disabled the USB Controller my
certificate has changed so how do I restore that?
Even if we get a download that works and eliminates
the yellow triangle the certificate is still changed.


Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert


These problems are not related.

The USB3 yellow entry, should be resolved by installing
the correct driver. Trying the "setup.exe" within
the folder you somehow already have unpacked, should
have done this for you.

*******

When Avast "mail" or "web" shields are turned on,
Avast seems to have the ability to insert Avast certificates
(you can see "Avast" as the issuer on the certificate).
If the certificate you were getting a complaint about
was not an Avast certificate, I would be more concerned
about the possibility something other than Avast was
doing that.

I also don't know right now, how you are getting this
certificate information. Are you accessing a certificate
store ? Are you checking the security status of a web
page by clicking some sort of lock icon in the interface ?
Just so I have some idea how you are able to observe
the certificate isn't the normal one.

If you were to turn off the Avast "web" shield right
now, what tool would you use to determine the
certificates have returned to normal ?



Paul



No I am not accessing any certificate store just doing my
normal web browsing where some site like eBay or banking
etc require me to login.

No I am not checking the security statue of a page but sometimes
I get alerts that pop-up.

If I turned off the Avast shield I would have to go back
and find the link in the article you gave me.

http://www.thesafemac.com/avasts-man-in-the-middle/

it's right above Updates where it says www.Google.com in blue
I checked again and it does seem Avast is causing this.

http://i68.tinypic.com/25ui79g.jpg


Robert


Robert

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:55:28 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 12:59:34 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I installed it but it came back with this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg

Robert
OK, go back to the top folder level, and give this a try.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \

setup.exe ===

I missed that the first time, in my rush to find
"any file with 1E31 in it". I was primarily concentrating
on seeing whether the driver had any chance of matching
your hardware or not.

HTH,
Paul


I tried it .

http://i68.tinypic.com/2w3uqvq.jpg

Robert

OK, the key to this step, is examining what File Explorer
is telling you.

That line in your picture, that you selected.

Does the Type column say "Zip file" or does it say "Folder" ?

If it says "Zip file", *then* the right-click menu will have

7Zip : Open Archive

If the Type field says "Folder", then it's just a regular folder.
If you were to highlight a regular folder, 7ZIP assumes you
want to make an archive file out of the folder. That's
why it offers

7Zip : Add to Archive

because it assumes you want to go in the opposite direction.

When you click on a "File", that's when you get Open Archive.

When you click on a "Folder", you get "Add To Archive".

Two different context menus are offered, and they
are context sensitive.

*******

If that item is a folder by that name, open it and
see if a Setup.exe is in there.

Paul



I opened it :

http://i65.tinypic.com/sgswlx.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/mrux3p.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/vdnvrr.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/dn14dt.jpg

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:


No I am not accessing any certificate store just doing my
normal web browsing where some site like eBay or banking
etc require me to login.

No I am not checking the security statue of a page but sometimes
I get alerts that pop-up.

If I turned off the Avast shield I would have to go back
and find the link in the article you gave me.

http://www.thesafemac.com/avasts-man-in-the-middle/

it's right above Updates where it says www.Google.com in blue
I checked again and it does seem Avast is causing this.

http://i68.tinypic.com/25ui79g.jpg


Robert

That means Avast is *a* MITM, but might not be the only
MITM. But Avast would then (hypothetically speaking) be
able to detect the other MITM, by being its own MITM.

It depends on the Shield settings, as to how carefully
you can "carve around" the issue.

You want email attachments to be scanned. That
doesn't require a MITM, just normal scanning before
the attachment is opened.

If there is a setting to stop TLS/SSL certificate
fiddling (on encrypted email connections) and stop
certificate fiddling on HTTPS web connections, then
you could try switching that off. I don't use anything
like that here.

Paul

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:47:09 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:06:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?

I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues
before?

When and if we resolve the yellow triangle
issue will that resolve the man-in-the-middle
as well?
It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.
As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.

Another thought I had was to take one of my spare
formatted HD's and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become
infected correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I
copy/paste My Documents for example or is there another
easier way?
OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.

sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul


I was referring to the yellow triangle problem
and MITM problem,.. just trying to give you other
options of resolving them.


Even though I disabled the USB Controller my
certificate has changed so how do I restore that?
Even if we get a download that works and eliminates
the yellow triangle the certificate is still changed.


Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert


These problems are not related.

The USB3 yellow entry, should be resolved by installing
the correct driver. Trying the "setup.exe" within
the folder you somehow already have unpacked, should
have done this for you.

*******

When Avast "mail" or "web" shields are turned on,
Avast seems to have the ability to insert Avast certificates
(you can see "Avast" as the issuer on the certificate).
If the certificate you were getting a complaint about
was not an Avast certificate, I would be more concerned
about the possibility something other than Avast was
doing that.

I also don't know right now, how you are getting this
certificate information. Are you accessing a certificate
store ? Are you checking the security status of a web
page by clicking some sort of lock icon in the interface ?
Just so I have some idea how you are able to observe
the certificate isn't the normal one.

If you were to turn off the Avast "web" shield right
now, what tool would you use to determine the
certificates have returned to normal ?

Paul

I turned off the Avast web shield and ran the test again
and again it shows I'm infected.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2mfbqxc.jpg

Robert

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:47:09 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:06:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?

I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues
before?

When and if we resolve the yellow triangle
issue will that resolve the man-in-the-middle
as well?
It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.
As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.

Another thought I had was to take one of my spare
formatted HD's and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become
infected correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I
copy/paste My Documents for example or is there another
easier way?
OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.

sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul


I was referring to the yellow triangle problem
and MITM problem,.. just trying to give you other
options of resolving them.


Even though I disabled the USB Controller my
certificate has changed so how do I restore that?
Even if we get a download that works and eliminates
the yellow triangle the certificate is still changed.


Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert


These problems are not related.

The USB3 yellow entry, should be resolved by installing
the correct driver. Trying the "setup.exe" within
the folder you somehow already have unpacked, should
have done this for you.

*******

When Avast "mail" or "web" shields are turned on,
Avast seems to have the ability to insert Avast certificates
(you can see "Avast" as the issuer on the certificate).
If the certificate you were getting a complaint about
was not an Avast certificate, I would be more concerned
about the possibility something other than Avast was
doing that.

I also don't know right now, how you are getting this
certificate information. Are you accessing a certificate
store ? Are you checking the security status of a web
page by clicking some sort of lock icon in the interface ?
Just so I have some idea how you are able to observe
the certificate isn't the normal one.

If you were to turn off the Avast "web" shield right
now, what tool would you use to determine the
certificates have returned to normal ?

Paul

I turned off the Avast web shield and ran the test again
and again it shows I'm infected.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2mfbqxc.jpg

Rob

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 12:33:29 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:


No I am not accessing any certificate store just doing my
normal web browsing where some site like eBay or banking
etc require me to login.

No I am not checking the security statue of a page but sometimes
I get alerts that pop-up.

If I turned off the Avast shield I would have to go back
and find the link in the article you gave me.

http://www.thesafemac.com/avasts-man-in-the-middle/

it's right above Updates where it says www.Google.com in blue
I checked again and it does seem Avast is causing this.

http://i68.tinypic.com/25ui79g.jpg


Robert

That means Avast is *a* MITM, but might not be the only
MITM. But Avast would then (hypothetically speaking) be
able to detect the other MITM, by being its own MITM.

It depends on the Shield settings, as to how carefully
you can "carve around" the issue.

You want email attachments to be scanned. That
doesn't require a MITM, just normal scanning before
the attachment is opened.

If there is a setting to stop TLS/SSL certificate
fiddling (on encrypted email connections) and stop
certificate fiddling on HTTPS web connections, then
you could try switching that off. I don't use anything
like that here.

Paul


Here are my settings again,... is there
anything you would change like going
from medium to high? I don't understand
what most of this means?

http://i65.tinypic.com/2rc0806.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/2mhtn9e.jpg

http://i68.tinypic.com/148nof8.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/f2st50.jpg

Robert

Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:47:09 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:06:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?

I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues
before?

When and if we resolve the yellow triangle
issue will that resolve the man-in-the-middle
as well?
It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.
As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.

Another thought I had was to take one of my spare
formatted HD's and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become
infected correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I
copy/paste My Documents for example or is there another
easier way?
OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.
sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul

I was referring to the yellow triangle problem
and MITM problem,.. just trying to give you other
options of resolving them.


Even though I disabled the USB Controller my
certificate has changed so how do I restore that?
Even if we get a download that works and eliminates
the yellow triangle the certificate is still changed.


Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert

These problems are not related.

The USB3 yellow entry, should be resolved by installing
the correct driver. Trying the "setup.exe" within
the folder you somehow already have unpacked, should
have done this for you.

*******

When Avast "mail" or "web" shields are turned on,
Avast seems to have the ability to insert Avast certificates
(you can see "Avast" as the issuer on the certificate).
If the certificate you were getting a complaint about
was not an Avast certificate, I would be more concerned
about the possibility something other than Avast was
doing that.

I also don't know right now, how you are getting this
certificate information. Are you accessing a certificate
store ? Are you checking the security status of a web
page by clicking some sort of lock icon in the interface ?
Just so I have some idea how you are able to observe
the certificate isn't the normal one.

If you were to turn off the Avast "web" shield right
now, what tool would you use to determine the
certificates have returned to normal ?

Paul

I turned off the Avast web shield and ran the test again
and again it shows I'm infected.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2mfbqxc.jpg

Robert

OK, here is mine.

https://i.postimg.cc/Ls3BpcwC/unvarnished-security.jpg

It looks the same as yours, when your Avast shield is turned off.

I've tried to leave version windows open so you can see
which version I'm running. That's just some Win10 image
that was sitting in the machine (used for some Bluetooth testing).

Paul

Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:55:28 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 12:59:34 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I installed it but it came back with this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg

Robert
OK, go back to the top folder level, and give this a try.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \

setup.exe ===

I missed that the first time, in my rush to find
"any file with 1E31 in it". I was primarily concentrating
on seeing whether the driver had any chance of matching
your hardware or not.

HTH,
Paul

I tried it .

http://i68.tinypic.com/2w3uqvq.jpg

Robert
OK, the key to this step, is examining what File Explorer
is telling you.

That line in your picture, that you selected.

Does the Type column say "Zip file" or does it say "Folder" ?

If it says "Zip file", *then* the right-click menu will have

7Zip : Open Archive

If the Type field says "Folder", then it's just a regular folder.
If you were to highlight a regular folder, 7ZIP assumes you
want to make an archive file out of the folder. That's
why it offers

7Zip : Add to Archive

because it assumes you want to go in the opposite direction.

When you click on a "File", that's when you get Open Archive.

When you click on a "Folder", you get "Add To Archive".

Two different context menus are offered, and they
are context sensitive.

*******

If that item is a folder by that name, open it and
see if a Setup.exe is in there.

Paul



I opened it :

http://i65.tinypic.com/sgswlx.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/mrux3p.jpg === Aha! Setup.exe is in here.

http://i64.tinypic.com/vdnvrr.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/dn14dt.jpg

Robert

Now, let's look at mine. Here is a picture of my second
folder picture (equivalent), with *file extensions turned on* !

https://i.postimg.cc/wjTw0cvR/file-e...extensions.gif

That makes it easier to see the "Setup.exe" at the top level
of the folder.

Paul

Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:47:09 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:06:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?
I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues before?
When and if we resolve the yellow triangle issue will that resolve
the man-in-the-middle
as well?
It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.
As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.

Another thought I had was to take one of my spare formatted HD's
and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become infected
correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I copy/paste My
Documents for example or is there another easier way?
OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.
sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul

I was referring to the yellow triangle problem
and MITM problem,.. just trying to give you other options of
resolving them.


Even though I disabled the USB Controller my certificate has changed
so how do I restore that?
Even if we get a download that works and eliminates the yellow
triangle the certificate is still changed.


Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert
These problems are not related.

The USB3 yellow entry, should be resolved by installing
the correct driver. Trying the "setup.exe" within
the folder you somehow already have unpacked, should
have done this for you.

*******

When Avast "mail" or "web" shields are turned on,
Avast seems to have the ability to insert Avast certificates
(you can see "Avast" as the issuer on the certificate).
If the certificate you were getting a complaint about
was not an Avast certificate, I would be more concerned
about the possibility something other than Avast was
doing that.

I also don't know right now, how you are getting this
certificate information. Are you accessing a certificate
store ? Are you checking the security status of a web
page by clicking some sort of lock icon in the interface ?
Just so I have some idea how you are able to observe
the certificate isn't the normal one.

If you were to turn off the Avast "web" shield right
now, what tool would you use to determine the
certificates have returned to normal ?

Paul

I turned off the Avast web shield and ran the test again
and again it shows I'm infected.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2mfbqxc.jpg

Robert

OK, here is mine.

https://i.postimg.cc/Ls3BpcwC/unvarnished-security.jpg

It looks the same as yours, when your Avast shield is turned off.

I've tried to leave version windows open so you can see
which version I'm running. That's just some Win10 image
that was sitting in the machine (used for some Bluetooth testing).

Paul

And even though your Extensions View is turned off,
it doesn't prevent you from double-clicking the

"Setup (Application)" item,

as Application means EXE.

Why Windows picks this dumb default at install time,
I will never know. It means over the years, I have
had to correct that *tons* of times.

Paul

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:33:04 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:55:28 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 12:59:34 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:

I installed it but it came back with this:

http://i65.tinypic.com/20i7uax.jpg

Robert
OK, go back to the top folder level, and give this a try.

Intel(R)_USB_3.0_eXtensible_Host_Controller_Driver \

setup.exe ===

I missed that the first time, in my rush to find
"any file with 1E31 in it". I was primarily concentrating
on seeing whether the driver had any chance of matching
your hardware or not.

HTH,
Paul

I tried it .

http://i68.tinypic.com/2w3uqvq.jpg

Robert
OK, the key to this step, is examining what File Explorer
is telling you.

That line in your picture, that you selected.

Does the Type column say "Zip file" or does it say "Folder" ?

If it says "Zip file", *then* the right-click menu will have

7Zip : Open Archive

If the Type field says "Folder", then it's just a regular folder.
If you were to highlight a regular folder, 7ZIP assumes you
want to make an archive file out of the folder. That's
why it offers

7Zip : Add to Archive

because it assumes you want to go in the opposite direction.

When you click on a "File", that's when you get Open Archive.

When you click on a "Folder", you get "Add To Archive".

Two different context menus are offered, and they
are context sensitive.

*******

If that item is a folder by that name, open it and
see if a Setup.exe is in there.

Paul



I opened it :

http://i65.tinypic.com/sgswlx.jpg

http://i66.tinypic.com/mrux3p.jpg === Aha! Setup.exe is in here.

http://i64.tinypic.com/vdnvrr.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg

http://i67.tinypic.com/35mozdx.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/dn14dt.jpg

Robert

Now, let's look at mine. Here is a picture of my second
folder picture (equivalent), with *file extensions turned on* !

https://i.postimg.cc/wjTw0cvR/file-e...extensions.gif

That makes it easier to see the "Setup.exe" at the top level
of the folder.

Paul


So I'm not infected? Since we have the same
license? or is the article wrong?

Here's mine: I un-ticked a few more to try and
match yours. Also I had to change the blue button.
Mine was selected to 'don't show hidden files,...'


http://i68.tinypic.com/24nqp2h.jpg

Robert

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:35:41 PM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 9:47:09 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 1:06:36 AM UTC-7, Paul wrote:
Robert in CA wrote:
So it doesn't recognize the device? I gather from
what you've been saying all along that my set-up is
somehow different regarding USB ports?
I bought this new from Dell and never had any issues before?
When and if we resolve the yellow triangle issue will that resolve
the man-in-the-middle
as well?
It looks to me like Avast could be doing it, the MITM.

Until you find the "mail" or "web" setting in the
interface, that turns that off.

Presently I have the USB Controller disabled.
However I did a test to see if a flash key would still
function and it does.
As someone else suggested (John perhaps), the port could
have been running in USB2 mode. Just the USB3 mode
isn't working on it. The port has nine contacts,
five for USB3, four for USB2, and there's likely to be
a different driver path if the XHCI is missing. For some
time, Intel has been including a "hub" logic block, and it's
possible either one of two drivers could run it. The
USB2 driver is a built-in. For Windows 7, the USB3
must be provided as a separate driver.

Another thought I had was to take one of my spare formatted HD's
and put it in the 8500. Although how
cold I update it? If I used a Mrimg it would become infected
correct? Because we've already done a System
and Mrimg restore and it's still here. So could I copy/paste My
Documents for example or is there another easier way?
OK, now "what's" still here ?

Are you referring to this MITM behavior ?

Or are you seeing the Package thing still ?

I thought your adwcleaner scan was clear now.
sometimes, I "feel better" if I cycle the power on it :-)

Paul

I was referring to the yellow triangle problem
and MITM problem,.. just trying to give you other options of
resolving them.


Even though I disabled the USB Controller my certificate has changed
so how do I restore that?
Even if we get a download that works and eliminates the yellow
triangle the certificate is still changed.


Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert
These problems are not related.

The USB3 yellow entry, should be resolved by installing
the correct driver. Trying the "setup.exe" within
the folder you somehow already have unpacked, should
have done this for you.

*******

When Avast "mail" or "web" shields are turned on,
Avast seems to have the ability to insert Avast certificates
(you can see "Avast" as the issuer on the certificate).
If the certificate you were getting a complaint about
was not an Avast certificate, I would be more concerned
about the possibility something other than Avast was
doing that.

I also don't know right now, how you are getting this
certificate information. Are you accessing a certificate
store ? Are you checking the security status of a web
page by clicking some sort of lock icon in the interface ?
Just so I have some idea how you are able to observe
the certificate isn't the normal one.

If you were to turn off the Avast "web" shield right
now, what tool would you use to determine the
certificates have returned to normal ?

Paul

I turned off the Avast web shield and ran the test again
and again it shows I'm infected.

http://i65.tinypic.com/2mfbqxc.jpg

Robert

OK, here is mine.

https://i.postimg.cc/Ls3BpcwC/unvarnished-security.jpg

It looks the same as yours, when your Avast shield is turned off.

I've tried to leave version windows open so you can see
which version I'm running. That's just some Win10 image
that was sitting in the machine (used for some Bluetooth testing).

Paul

And even though your Extensions View is turned off,
it doesn't prevent you from double-clicking the

"Setup (Application)" item,

as Application means EXE.

Why Windows picks this dumb default at install time,
I will never know. It means over the years, I have
had to correct that *tons* of times.

Paul


Success!

I went to the file directly and opened it up:

http://i68.tinypic.com/xdb95g.jpg

Robert

Seems like it worked:

http://i66.tinypic.com/20z5vyb.jpg


Thanks
Robert

On Sunday, June 30, 2019 at 1:26:33 AM UTC-7, Robert in CA wrote:
Seems like it worked:

http://i66.tinypic.com/20z5vyb.jpg


Thanks
Robert

It seems we've resolved the yellow triangle problem.
However regarding the MITM; do you think I should
switch to another A/V because when I switched off
the Avast shield and did the test my license came
out the same as yours.

What do you think?

Robert