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32 bit in 64 bit Winn 8 machine?
I just bought a small, inexpensive (cheap??) HP 64 bit Win 8
laptop for a grandson. I doesn't run 32 bit stuff . What am I missing? A setting somewhere? |
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mathedman wrote:
I just bought a small, inexpensive (cheap??) HP 64 bit Win 8 laptop for a grandson. I doesn't run 32 bit stuff . What am I missing? A setting somewhere? Occasionally, 32 bit programs use 16 bit installer code. And that causes a problem. Just a guess, Paul |
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On 11/4/2013 5:46 PM, Ken1943 wrote:
On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:06:17 GMT, (mathedman) wrote: I just bought a small, inexpensive (cheap??) HP 64 bit Win 8 laptop for a grandson. I doesn't run 32 bit stuff . What am I missing? A setting somewhere? 64 bit runs 32 bit programs just fine. There is no setting. Are you sure the programs are 32 bit ? 16 bit programs will not run, like some old games. KenW If by 32bit you mean Windows XP, Windows 8 will not run a program written for Windows XP. I learned this when I bought an ASUS Bluetooth device that was advertised to run on Windows 7. I learned that it ran in a compatibility box on Windows 7, and could not be cajoled into running on Windows 8. (In my opinion running in a compatibility box is not running on Windows 7) As I remember Compatibility Boxes was an upgrade to the basic Windows 8. If your version has a compatibility box you may try to run it that way. |
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On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:04:14 -0500, Keith Nuttle
wrote: On 11/4/2013 5:46 PM, Ken1943 wrote: On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:06:17 GMT, (mathedman) wrote: I just bought a small, inexpensive (cheap??) HP 64 bit Win 8 laptop for a grandson. I doesn't run 32 bit stuff . What am I missing? A setting somewhere? 64 bit runs 32 bit programs just fine. There is no setting. Are you sure the programs are 32 bit ? 16 bit programs will not run, like some old games. KenW If by 32bit you mean Windows XP, Windows 8 will not run a program written for Windows XP. I Many programs (but not all) from the Windows XP days *will* run under Windows 8 without a problem. -- Ken Blake |
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On 11/04/2013 04:06 PM, mathedman wrote:
I just bought a small, inexpensive (cheap??) HP 64 bit Win 8 laptop for a grandson. I doesn't run 32 bit stuff . What am I missing? A setting somewhere? did you try this http://www.dummies.com/how-to/conten...windows-8.html |
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I meant to post this link http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ersion-windows The other one assumed Classic Shell is installed |
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On 11/4/2013 8:04 PM, R. C. White wrote:
Hi, Keith. If by 32bit you mean Windows XP, Windows 8 will not run a program written for Windows XP. That's not right, Keith. Almost all WinXP programs, whether 32-bit or 64-bit, will run fine in Vista, Win7 and 64-bit Win8. The few exceptions, as others have pointed out, are those with 16-bit components (such as loaders). Some DRIVERS for hardware will need to be rewritten to work in a different OS. Your Bluetooth device probably falls into this category. Have you checked with ASUS? Recently? They may have written Win8 drivers for that device by now. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010) Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8.1 Pro I checked with ASUS several times and gave up as I was getting the same line. I did get the Bluetooth device to work using the native bluetooth software that comes with Windows 8. I probably should get back with ASUS, but their people are more knowledgeable than I ;-) As for compatibility with W XP programs I could get none of mine to work on Windows 8, it was probably the installer problem. |
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Hi, Keith.
If you tell us the names of those "incompatible" Win XP programs, somebody here can probably give you some magic ideas. ;^} RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010) Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3508.0205) in Win8.1 Pro "Keith Nuttle" wrote in message ... On 11/4/2013 8:04 PM, R. C. White wrote: Hi, Keith. If by 32bit you mean Windows XP, Windows 8 will not run a program written for Windows XP. That's not right, Keith. Almost all WinXP programs, whether 32-bit or 64-bit, will run fine in Vista, Win7 and 64-bit Win8. The few exceptions, as others have pointed out, are those with 16-bit components (such as loaders). Some DRIVERS for hardware will need to be rewritten to work in a different OS. Your Bluetooth device probably falls into this category. Have you checked with ASUS? Recently? They may have written Win8 drivers for that device by now. RC I checked with ASUS several times and gave up as I was getting the same line. I did get the Bluetooth device to work using the native bluetooth software that comes with Windows 8. I probably should get back with ASUS, but their people are more knowledgeable than I ;-) As for compatibility with W XP programs I could get none of mine to work on Windows 8, it was probably the installer problem. |
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Keith Nuttle Keith_Nuttle sbcglobal.net wrote:
On 11/4/2013 5:46 PM, Ken1943 wrote: On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 22:06:17 GMT, mathedman hotmail.CUT.com (mathedman) wrote: I just bought a small, inexpensive (cheap??) HP 64 bit Win 8 laptop for a grandson. I doesn't run 32 bit stuff . What am I missing? A setting somewhere? 64 bit runs 32 bit programs just fine. There is no setting. Are you sure the programs are 32 bit ? 16 bit programs will not run, like some old games. KenW If by 32bit you mean Windows XP, Windows 8 will not run a program written for Windows XP. That's trolling for answers. As I remember Compatibility Boxes was an upgrade to the basic Windows 8. Again. -- Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Keith Nuttle Keith_Nuttle sbcglobal.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-8 Subject: 32 bit in 64 bit Winn 8 machine? Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 18:04:14 -0500 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 24 Message-ID: l5995g$igl$1 speranza.aioe.org References: 5276b8c7.2168445 aioe.org cp8g79tkcmqv8pvub0dhnvv7ljv0fnmffr 4ax.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ajBl1lGKqUXBIvmZrGqszQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.comp.os.windows-8:7728 |
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On 11/4/2013 9:36 PM, R. C. White wrote:
Hi, Keith. If you tell us the names of those "incompatible" Win XP programs, somebody here can probably give you some magic ideas. ;^} RC -- The most infuriating one was the computer side interface software for the ASUS bluetooth device, but the W 8 drives worked with their device. Most of the other programs were games and such. I play two games Mahjong and Solitaire which have been replaced with W 8 versions. Most of the primary programs have been replaced if they caused a problem. If I have not needed the others they are probably not worth the chase. Thanks for the offer. |
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Ken1943 wrote:
I would like to add a question. Is running a Disassembler on a program tell what "bitness" a program is ? Not that I would know what to look for !! KenW http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Executable Binaries are marked as PE32 or PE32+, to indicate 32 bit or 64 bit operation. And yes, you're right, running a disassembler, you would see 64 bit instructions on a 64 bit executable. But for a quick look, sniffing the PE type is all that's needed. A port of the "file" program can do that for you, as it reads select portions of files to identify the type. There's also at least one VBScript that does that sort of thing. ******* The hardest part of using these packages, is making sure they're in your execution path. http://gnuwin32.sourceforge.net/packages/file.htm To use it, the invocation would be: file.exe blah.exe and file then checks the header of blah.exe to see whether it's PE32 or PE32+. (I included the exe on the end of file, to point out it is a Windows executable.) If you booted a Linux LiveCD, it has the file command as well (it originated on UNIX). file blah.exe HTH, Paul |
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"Keith Nuttle" wrote in
message On 11/4/2013 9:36 PM, R. C. White wrote: Hi, Keith. If you tell us the names of those "incompatible" Win XP programs, somebody here can probably give you some magic ideas. ;^} RC -- The most infuriating one was the computer side interface software for the ASUS bluetooth device, but the W 8 drives worked with their device. Most of the other programs were games and such. I play two games Mahjong and Solitaire which have been replaced with W 8 versions. The Windows XP Solitaire runs fine on Win 8. So should any other program written for either a 32 or 64 bit OS. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 07:36:55 -0500, "dadiOH"
wrote: "Keith Nuttle" wrote in message On 11/4/2013 9:36 PM, R. C. White wrote: Hi, Keith. If you tell us the names of those "incompatible" Win XP programs, somebody here can probably give you some magic ideas. ;^} RC -- The most infuriating one was the computer side interface software for the ASUS bluetooth device, but the W 8 drives worked with their device. Most of the other programs were games and such. I play two games Mahjong and Solitaire which have been replaced with W 8 versions. The Windows XP Solitaire runs fine on Win 8. So should any other program written for either a 32 or 64 bit OS. Yes. The major exceptions are some utilities and some games. -- Ken Blake |
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