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Old February 25th 17, 04:44 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Linea Recta[_2_]
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I have Windows 7 on my laptop, formatted as one large partition.
However, I would like to exclude a folder with large temporary files from my
Macrium images.
Is there an easy way to add a partition to the hard disk?
Alternatively, is it possible to exclude specific folders with contents from
a Macrium image?



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Old February 25th 17, 07:57 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Linea Recta wrote:
I have Windows 7 on my laptop, formatted as one large partition.
However, I would like to exclude a folder with large temporary files
from my Macrium images.
Is there an easy way to add a partition to the hard disk?
Alternatively, is it possible to exclude specific folders with contents
from a Macrium image?


In Disk Management, you can click the C: partition and
select "shrink". Windows has a built-in shrink and
expand function. What it lacks, is it cannot move
the origin of a partition right or left. All it
can do, is move the right-hand-edge of the partition
via shrinking or expanding.

If you need "complicated" partition changes, there
are free third-party Partition Manager applications for that.

Of course, once you've modified the setup, you're
going to need to correct your backup definition files.
Making changes complicates issues with respect to
differential or incremental backups, to restores, and
so on.

*******

While the paid version of Macrium has File and Folder Masks,
AFAIK those capabilities apply only to File & Folder backup
mode. Not to imaging.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

"File & folder masks"

Imaging does not waste space on pagefile or hiberfil. Macrium
is supposed to store zero length files for those.

Architecturally, Macrium can do anything they want during the
imaging operation. They could exclude or modify just about
anything. There is nothing magic about the Windows VSS function,
that requires "precise retention". All that VSS does, is freeze
a version of a volume, at the block level, and all of the
functions Macrium carries out, are built by Macrium on top of
that. If they wanted to have file excludes while doing an image
operation, they could do it. But my quick review of the Macrium
Knowledgebase, doesn't suggest that function (excludes) exists in
an image operation.

HTH,
Paul
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Old February 25th 17, 11:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Linea Recta wrote:

I have Windows 7 on my laptop, formatted as one large partition.
However, I would like to exclude a folder with large temporary files from my
Macrium images.
Is there an easy way to add a partition to the hard disk?


There are lots of partition managers, some of them free, like:

Easeus Partition Master
Mintool Partition Wizard
Paragon Partition Manager
GParted

There are lots to find using an online search, like:

https://www.google.com/search?q=mini...n+manager+free

Alternatively, is it possible to exclude specific folders with contents from
a Macrium image?


https://www.macrium.com/help/v5/How_...nd_Folders.htm

That shows selections to filter out (exclude) files or folders.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

File and folder masks is a feature not available in the free version.
You didn't say which you have (freeware or payware).
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Old February 26th 17, 12:03 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In message , VanguardLH
writes:
Linea Recta wrote:

I have Windows 7 on my laptop, formatted as one large partition.
However, I would like to exclude a folder with large temporary files from my
Macrium images.
Is there an easy way to add a partition to the hard disk?


If you've no unallocated space (i. e. your existing partition[s] occupy
all the space available on the disc), then you'll have to shrink (one
of) the existing partition(s) to make some space to create a new one in.

W7 has its own disk management utility, which _can_ usually shrink,
though sometimes only to a point (there are files it can't move, which
tend to be around the middle of the partition). [_Sometimes_ running it
a second time gets you a bit more movement.] For what you want, this may
be more than sufficient. (You use the same utility to create the new
partition in the space you've just released - and it can give it a
letter and format it, too.)

There are lots of partition managers, some of them free, like:

Easeus Partition Master
Mintool Partition Wizard
Paragon Partition Manager
GParted


EaseUS was the first one I tried, and it did what I wanted, so I didn't
try any others. Its look and feel is almost identical to the one built
in to Windows.
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That shows selections to filter out (exclude) files or folders.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

File and folder masks is a feature not available in the free version.
You didn't say which you have (freeware or payware).

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Old February 26th 17, 02:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 2/25/2017 10:44 AM, Linea Recta wrote:
I have Windows 7 on my laptop, formatted as one large partition.
However, I would like to exclude a folder with large temporary files
from my Macrium images.
Is there an easy way to add a partition to the hard disk?
Alternatively, is it possible to exclude specific folders with contents
from a Macrium image?



freewa "Partition Master"
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Old February 26th 17, 06:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Linea Recta[_2_]
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Linea Recta wrote:
I have Windows 7 on my laptop, formatted as one large partition.
However, I would like to exclude a folder with large temporary files from
my Macrium images.
Is there an easy way to add a partition to the hard disk?
Alternatively, is it possible to exclude specific folders with contents
from a Macrium image?


In Disk Management, you can click the C: partition and
select "shrink". Windows has a built-in shrink and
expand function. What it lacks, is it cannot move
the origin of a partition right or left. All it
can do, is move the right-hand-edge of the partition
via shrinking or expanding.

If you need "complicated" partition changes, there
are free third-party Partition Manager applications for that.

Of course, once you've modified the setup, you're
going to need to correct your backup definition files.
Making changes complicates issues with respect to
differential or incremental backups, to restores, and
so on.

*******

While the paid version of Macrium has File and Folder Masks,
AFAIK those capabilities apply only to File & Folder backup
mode. Not to imaging.

http://www.macrium.com/reflectfree.aspx

"File & folder masks"

Imaging does not waste space on pagefile or hiberfil. Macrium
is supposed to store zero length files for those.

Architecturally, Macrium can do anything they want during the
imaging operation. They could exclude or modify just about
anything. There is nothing magic about the Windows VSS function,
that requires "precise retention". All that VSS does, is freeze
a version of a volume, at the block level, and all of the
functions Macrium carries out, are built by Macrium on top of
that. If they wanted to have file excludes while doing an image
operation, they could do it. But my quick review of the Macrium
Knowledgebase, doesn't suggest that function (excludes) exists in
an image operation.

HTH,
Paul




OK, that sounds like what I need.
(Touched nothing yet!)
This will be a one time operation, so no need to waste space for extensive
application.
I was confused by the term "volume", while I thought I was going to change
"partitions"? Or are they the same thing?
And of course, after shrinking C: I suppose I can make a new partition of
the remaining space and format it with the same utility?
Thanks,


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Old February 26th 17, 06:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Linea Recta" wrote

| OK, that sounds like what I need.
| (Touched nothing yet!)
| This will be a one time operation, so no need to waste space for extensive
| application.
| I was confused by the term "volume", while I thought I was going to change
| "partitions"? Or are they the same thing?
| And of course, after shrinking C: I suppose I can make a new partition of
| the remaining space and format it with the same utility?

A volume is a partition. If it were me I'd stay
away from Windows disk functions. They're
quirky and limited. After backing up a current
image, use one of the one's Vanguard listed.
(Assuming Macrium can't do partitioning.)

I always use BootIt, which can dependably do
just about anything, but it's not free. EaseUs is
probably fine. I tried GParted some years ago and
it didn't work properly. Maybe it's fine now, but
I'd be wary of OSS freebies. Funky OSS is OK
for graphics and editors, but not for disk management.

You can create up to 4 primary partitions and any
primary can be an extended partition, which can
hold any number of logical partitions. The terms
are not really important, except that some OSs
can't boot from a logical partition. What it boils down
to is that you can have as many data partitions as
you like.

Once you shrink C drive you can put 1 or
more partitions behind that for data, formatted
as either FAT32 or NTFS. (FAT32 is immune to
file restrictions, which is handy, but it doesn't
handle files over 4+ GB. I use FAT32 for most
data but then always have one NTFS partition
for things like videos and large disk images.)

I use about 60 GB for Win7 C drive. 10 GB for XP.
But many people would probably say it should be
bigger. It depends on how much of your data files
you plan to move to data partitions.


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Old February 26th 17, 06:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Rene Lamontagne
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On 2/26/2017 12:27 PM, Mayayana wrote:
"Linea Recta" wrote

| OK, that sounds like what I need.
| (Touched nothing yet!)
| This will be a one time operation, so no need to waste space for extensive
| application.
| I was confused by the term "volume", while I thought I was going to change
| "partitions"? Or are they the same thing?
| And of course, after shrinking C: I suppose I can make a new partition of
| the remaining space and format it with the same utility?

A volume is a partition. If it were me I'd stay
away from Windows disk functions. They're
quirky and limited. After backing up a current
image, use one of the one's Vanguard listed.
(Assuming Macrium can't do partitioning.)

I always use BootIt, which can dependably do
just about anything, but it's not free. EaseUs is
probably fine. I tried GParted some years ago and
it didn't work properly. Maybe it's fine now, but
I'd be wary of OSS freebies. Funky OSS is OK
for graphics and editors, but not for disk management.

You can create up to 4 primary partitions and any
primary can be an extended partition, which can
hold any number of logical partitions. The terms
are not really important, except that some OSs
can't boot from a logical partition. What it boils down
to is that you can have as many data partitions as
you like.

Once you shrink C drive you can put 1 or
more partitions behind that for data, formatted
as either FAT32 or NTFS. (FAT32 is immune to
file restrictions, which is handy, but it doesn't
handle files over 4+ GB. I use FAT32 for most
data but then always have one NTFS partition
for things like videos and large disk images.)

I use about 60 GB for Win7 C drive. 10 GB for XP.
But many people would probably say it should be
bigger. It depends on how much of your data files
you plan to move to data partitions.




Minitool Partition Wizard is Great and is free.

Rene

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Old February 26th 17, 08:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Sun, 26 Feb 2017 12:34:23 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

Minitool Partition Wizard is Great and is free.


+1

There are a lot of such tools available but that's my personal favorite.
https://www.partitionwizard.com/free...n-manager.html

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Old February 26th 17, 08:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mayayana
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"Char Jackson" wrote

| There are a lot of such tools available but that's my personal favorite.
| https://www.partitionwizard.com/free...n-manager.html
|

Why your favorite? What I found was a 50 MB download!
Apparently it installs in Windows and the bootable version
isn't free. When I unpacked the installer for the free version
I got 119 MB and a VC++ v. 9 dependency. There's no reason
for anything to need to run in Windows, much less using
VC++. That's just a lot of GUI bloat.

The BootIt ISO is under 3 MB. It handles all aspects of
partitioning, disk imaging and boot management. If Partition
Wizard is going to resize C drive it's presumably going to
have to reboot outside of Windows, anyway. So why install
all that mess?

I decided to look at EaseUs and that, also, is about a
50 MB download. There just isn't any reason for a utility like
that to need to be installed as a giant, bloated Windows
program -- or as a Windows program at all.

For anyone who really needs fully functioning disk
management I'd suggest trying a trial of BootIt. Disk
management is not something to trust to freebies.

But if you're sure you're never going to be willing to pay
for it then at least find something you can boot from a CD.
Then you've got a quick, easy tool that can be used easily
on any box, regardless of OS, version, etc. GParted is such
a tool. Free and bootable. It's not exactly compact, but
nothing has to be installed. Though I don't know anything
about how dependable it is.


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Old March 2nd 17, 07:13 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" schreef in bericht
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I have Windows 7 on my laptop, formatted as one large partition.
However, I would like to exclude a folder with large temporary files from
my Macrium images.
Is there an easy way to add a partition to the hard disk?
Alternatively, is it possible to exclude specific folders with contents
from a Macrium image?



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I used disk shrink on C: today. I used suggested size values and it worked
fine. I was able to shrink to nearly half total size. Made, named and
formatted new partition ntfs. Corrected some drive letters.


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