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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junkOS
Alan Baker wrote:
Do you build your own cars? I know a number of people who do. Really? What are the cars they are building? Before I answer here is a public forum.Â* You sound like you don't believe me.Â* So I'll ask first, why do you wish to know (and then perhaps I'll post a link). So you claim to know "a number of people" who actually build their own cars... ...but you don't know a single thing about what kind of cars they are building? Riiiiiight. I do know. Some of them work for GM and some of them work for Ford. You want a link? Go "Riiiiiight" yourself. |
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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junkOS
On 2020-07-05 4:21 p.m., Bill wrote:
Alan Baker wrote: On 2020-07-05 3:24 a.m., Bill wrote: Tell me: Is it apathetic if you buy a refrigerator, but don't know how to repair it? You have refrigeration/cooling not only in your home, but in your car too. Â*I'd say if you don't already know how it works, then you haven't been challenging yourself very much. I think you would do well to understand the basic principles of cooling systems whether you choose to own a refrigerator or not. What are you going to do when you move away from home?Â* I replaced the main motor in my home air conditioner when it went out. Could you do that without risk of electrocuting yourself?Â* You would save $550 if you could.Â* Still not worth it to you? You are 100% right Bill, Knowing and understanding how things work is paramount to saving tons of money. I don't drive but maintain my Sons vehicles, apart from doing the regular day to day stuff. Major overhaul of his Chrysler 747 Automatic transmission.saving $400.00 Removed and re soldered aluminum A/C condenser on his dodge minivan saving $700.00 I have done comlete brake jobs on all his vehicles savings $??? Replaced timing belts on his Toyota forerunner savig $150.00 I could go on for pages on vehicles alone but I will switch to the houe now Installed a complete 3 ton central A/C in my 11 room house Installed a backup generator and switchgear system in same house Replace all the electricall wiring in basement and first floor Replaced all the water piping in the basement. Did all the general repairs on stoves, furnaces, washer dryer, and appliances for savings of thousands of dollars over the years .Again I could go on for pages. Did I mention since 1995 I have built approximately 30 desktop computers for myself, family and friends. So Bill and his dad were right, It pays to know your stuff. Rene |
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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junk OS
Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2020-07-05 4:21 p.m., Bill wrote: Alan Baker wrote: On 2020-07-05 3:24 a.m., Bill wrote: Tell me: Is it apathetic if you buy a refrigerator, but don't know how to repair it? You have refrigeration/cooling not only in your home, but in your car too. Â*Â*I'd say if you don't already know how it works, then you haven't been challenging yourself very much. I think you would do well to understand the basic principles of cooling systems whether you choose to own a refrigerator or not. What are you going to do when you move away from home?Â* I replaced the main motor in my home air conditioner when it went out. Could you do that without risk of electrocuting yourself?Â* You would save $550 if you could.Â* Still not worth it to you? You are 100% right Bill, Knowing and understanding how things work is paramount to saving tons of money. I don't drive but maintain my Sons vehicles, apart from doing the regular day to day stuff. Major overhaul of his Chrysler 747 Automatic transmission.saving $400.00 Removed and re soldered aluminum A/C condenser on his dodge minivan saving $700.00 I have done comlete brake jobs on allÂ* hisÂ* vehicles savings $??? Replaced timing belts on his Toyota forerunner savig $150.00 I could go on for pages on vehicles alone but I will switch to the houe now Installed aÂ* complete 3 ton central A/C in my 11 room house Installed a backup generator and switchgearÂ* system in same house Replace all the electricall wiring in basement and first floor Replaced all the water piping in the basement. Did all the general repairs on stoves, furnaces, washer dryer, and appliances for savings of thousands of dollars over the years .Again I could go on for pages. Did I mention since 1995 I have built approximately 30 desktop computers for myself, family and friends. So Bill and his dad were right, It pays to know your stuff. Rene Thanks Rene, I was worried I was going to have to be on the defensive again. Your list is better than mine, but the important thing is just to "keep trying", right? Even if you don't save much money you can get a little pride out of it. |
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On 2020-07-05 6:01 p.m., Bill wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2020-07-05 4:21 p.m., Bill wrote: Alan Baker wrote: On 2020-07-05 3:24 a.m., Bill wrote: Tell me: Is it apathetic if you buy a refrigerator, but don't know how to repair it? You have refrigeration/cooling not only in your home, but in your car too. Â*Â*I'd say if you don't already know how it works, then you haven't been challenging yourself very much. I think you would do well to understand the basic principles of cooling systems whether you choose to own a refrigerator or not. What are you going to do when you move away from home?Â* I replaced the main motor in my home air conditioner when it went out. Could you do that without risk of electrocuting yourself?Â* You would save $550 if you could.Â* Still not worth it to you? You are 100% right Bill, Knowing and understanding how things work is paramount to saving tons of money. I don't drive but maintain my Sons vehicles, apart from doing the regular day to day stuff. Major overhaul of his Chrysler 747 Automatic transmission.saving $400.00 Removed and re soldered aluminum A/C condenser on his dodge minivan saving $700.00 I have done comlete brake jobs on allÂ* hisÂ* vehicles savings $??? Replaced timing belts on his Toyota forerunner savig $150.00 I could go on for pages on vehicles alone but I will switch to the houe now Installed aÂ* complete 3 ton central A/C in my 11 room house Installed a backup generator and switchgearÂ* system in same house Replace all the electricall wiring in basement and first floor Replaced all the water piping in the basement. Did all the general repairs on stoves, furnaces, washer dryer, and appliances for savings of thousands of dollars over the years .Again I could go on for pages. Did I mention since 1995 I have built approximately 30 desktop computers for myself, family and friends. So Bill and his dad were right, It pays to know your stuff. Rene Thanks Rene,Â* I was worried I was going to have to be on the defensive again.Â* Your list is better than mine, but the important thing is just to "keep trying", right?Â* Even if you don't save much money you can get a little pride out of it. Yes knowing you can do these things gives you a sense of accomplishment even if you have terrible eyesight and a grade 8 education which is all I have. I learned all this stuff by reading and doing, there was no internet and YouTube howtos in my learning years, but there were books. On this Apple subject, I used Apple IIs from 1980 to about 1990 then spent a BUNDLE on an Apple IIGS system, then a couple years latter Mr Jobs dropped all support for the IIGS system leaving me with a useless pile of rocks. So from that day on I swore that Apple would NEVER see another penny of mine. And they never have. Rene |
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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junk OS
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote: On this Apple subject, I used Apple IIs from 1980 to about 1990 then spent a BUNDLE on an Apple IIGS system, then a couple years latter Mr Jobs dropped all support for the IIGS system leaving me with a useless pile of rocks. mr. jobs was not at apple in 1990. he left apple in 1985. it was also clear that once the mac came out in 1984, that the apple ii series was a dead end, certainly by 1990, when windows 3 came out. So from that day on I swore that Apple would NEVER see another penny of mine. And they never have. because you made a mistake in buying a dead end product? what about when microsoft orphaned windows mobile 6 devices with windows phone 7, only to orphan that with windows phone 8, only to orphan that when they discontinued windows phone entirely, all within a few years time? |
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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junk OS
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote: Is it apathetic if you buy a refrigerator, but don't know how to repair it? You have refrigeration/cooling not only in your home, but in your car too. *I'd say if you don't already know how it works, then you haven't been challenging yourself very much. I think you would do well to understand the basic principles of cooling systems whether you choose to own a refrigerator or not. What are you going to do when you move away from home?* I replaced the main motor in my home air conditioner when it went out. Could you do that without risk of electrocuting yourself?* You would save $550 if you could.* Still not worth it to you? You are 100% right Bill, Knowing and understanding how things work is paramount to saving tons of money. not always. I don't drive but maintain my Sons vehicles, apart from doing the regular day to day stuff. Major overhaul of his Chrysler 747 Automatic transmission.saving $400.00 Removed and re soldered aluminum A/C condenser on his dodge minivan saving $700.00 I have done comlete brake jobs on all his vehicles savings $??? Replaced timing belts on his Toyota forerunner savig $150.00 I could go on for pages on vehicles alone but I will switch to the houe now if it's so important, why haven't you taught him how to do his own repairs? you're also ignoring the value of your time. saving $150 for what is generally a 1-2 day job is barely minimum wage. Installed a complete 3 ton central A/C in my 11 room house Installed a backup generator and switchgear system in same house Replace all the electricall wiring in basement and first floor Replaced all the water piping in the basement. those require licensing, and although you might be able to do it yourself, it still has to be inspected so that it meets code. in some cases, it will *not* pass unless it was done by a licensed contractor. Did all the general repairs on stoves, furnaces, washer dryer, and appliances for savings of thousands of dollars over the years .Again I could go on for pages. do you think knowing how to repair all of that is a requirement to own any of them? you're neglecting the cost of the tools, parts availability and time. if your furnace breaks in the middle of winter, would you prefer to call for hvac service who can fix it same day, or would you prefer to have no heat until you get parts, which could be a few days if it fails during a long weekend or in the middle of a storm, which murphy guarantees that's when it will fail. Did I mention since 1995 I have built approximately 30 desktop computers for myself, family and friends. how many laptops did you build? laptops have outsold desktops for roughly 20 years. how many phones or tablets did you build? both have outsold traditional computers for nearly a decade. So Bill and his dad were right, It pays to know your stuff. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. |
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On 2020-07-05 7:01 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: On this Apple subject, I used Apple IIs from 1980 to about 1990 then spent a BUNDLE on an Apple IIGS system, then a couple years latter Mr Jobs dropped all support for the IIGS system leaving me with a useless pile of rocks. mr. jobs was not at apple in 1990. he left apple in 1985. I used his name meaning Apple or are you too thick to figure that out. it was also clear that once the mac came out in 1984, that the apple ii series was a dead end, certainly by 1990, when windows 3 came out. So from that day on I swore that Apple would NEVER see another penny of mine. And they never have. because you made a mistake in buying a dead end product?.. My mistake was listening to Apple bull**** hype. what about when microsoft orphaned windows mobile 6 devices with windows phone 7, only to orphan that with windows phone 8, only to orphan that when they discontinued windows phone entirely, all within a few years time? I don't give a **** about phones, we were talking computers. Rene |
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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junkOS
On 2020-07-05 7:02 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: Is it apathetic if you buy a refrigerator, but don't know how to repair it? You have refrigeration/cooling not only in your home, but in your car too. Â*I'd say if you don't already know how it works, then you haven't been challenging yourself very much. I think you would do well to understand the basic principles of cooling systems whether you choose to own a refrigerator or not. What are you going to do when you move away from home?Â* I replaced the main motor in my home air conditioner when it went out. Could you do that without risk of electrocuting yourself?Â* You would save $550 if you could.Â* Still not worth it to you? You are 100% right Bill, Knowing and understanding how things work is paramount to saving tons of money. not always. I don't drive but maintain my Sons vehicles, apart from doing the regular day to day stuff. Major overhaul of his Chrysler 747 Automatic transmission.saving $400.00 Removed and re soldered aluminum A/C condenser on his dodge minivan saving $700.00 I have done comlete brake jobs on all his vehicles savings $??? Replaced timing belts on his Toyota forerunner savig $150.00 I could go on for pages on vehicles alone but I will switch to the houe now if it's so important, why haven't you taught him how to do his own repairs? I did teach him and he became an expert mechanic. you're also ignoring the value of your time. My free hobby time is not vaued saving $150 for what is generally a 1-2 day job is barely minimum wage. Hah, 1 or 2 days shows how little you know, took about 5 hours Installed a complete 3 ton central A/C in my 11 room house Installed a backup generator and switchgear system in same house Replace all the electricall wiring in basement and first floor Replaced all the water piping in the basement. those require licensing, and although you might be able to do it yourself, it still has to be inspected so that it meets code. I was licensed, both in refrigeration and to 600 volts in electrical, also as a 3rd class power engineer to 2000 horsepower boilers, worked on and repaired 1500 ton chillers in some cases, it will *not* pass unless it was done by a licensed contractor. see above Did all the general repairs on stoves, furnaces, washer dryer, and appliances for savings of thousands of dollars over the years .Again I could go on for pages. do you think knowing how to repair all of that is a requirement to own any of them? Didn't say that but it helps. you're neglecting the cost of the tools, parts availability and time. I have all the tools including a 6x36 Engine metal turning lathe, Milling machine, drill press, power hacksaw and all the handtools I need. Parts I buy as required. if your furnace breaks in the middle of winter, would you prefer to call for hvac service who can fix it same day, or would you prefer to have no heat until you get parts, which could be a few days if it fails during a long weekend or in the middle of a storm, which murphy guarantees that's when it will fail. Been looking after and repairig furnaces since about 1954 Did I mention since 1995 I have built approximately 30 desktop computers for myself, family and friends. how many laptops did you build? laptops have outsold desktops for roughly 20 years. You don't build laptops sonny, you buy them. how many phones or tablets did you build? both have outsold traditional computers for nearly a decade.\ You don't build tablets and phones either, you buy them also, Are you stupid? surely you know that much ,sonny. So Bill and his dad were right, It pays to know your stuff. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Apparently you never do, Rene Rene |
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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junk OS
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote: On this Apple subject, I used Apple IIs from 1980 to about 1990 then spent a BUNDLE on an Apple IIGS system, then a couple years latter Mr Jobs dropped all support for the IIGS system leaving me with a useless pile of rocks. mr. jobs was not at apple in 1990. he left apple in 1985. I used his name meaning Apple or are you too thick to figure that out. you used it incorrectly. it was also clear that once the mac came out in 1984, that the apple ii series was a dead end, certainly by 1990, when windows 3 came out. So from that day on I swore that Apple would NEVER see another penny of mine. And they never have. because you made a mistake in buying a dead end product?.. My mistake was listening to Apple bull**** hype. what hype? the apple ii first came out in 1977 and the iigs was released in 1986. neither were being hyped in 1990. by that time, the industry had moved on. apple was hyping the mac and microsoft was hyping windows 3. various other products were also being hyped, but they all failed and almost nobody remembers them, such as grid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRiDPad your iigs didn't suddenly stop working either. support lasted well into the 90s, and there are still people to this day using apple ii and even writing new apps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KansasFest what about when microsoft orphaned windows mobile 6 devices with windows phone 7, only to orphan that with windows phone 8, only to orphan that when they discontinued windows phone entirely, all within a few years time? I don't give a **** about phones, we were talking computers. phones are computers. for many people, their phone is their only computer and for others, it's the one they use the most. |
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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junk OS
In article , Rene Lamontagne
wrote: I don't drive but maintain my Sons vehicles, apart from doing the regular day to day stuff. Major overhaul of his Chrysler 747 Automatic transmission.saving $400.00 Removed and re soldered aluminum A/C condenser on his dodge minivan saving $700.00 I have done comlete brake jobs on all his vehicles savings $??? Replaced timing belts on his Toyota forerunner savig $150.00 I could go on for pages on vehicles alone but I will switch to the houe now if it's so important, why haven't you taught him how to do his own repairs? I did teach him and he became an expert mechanic. then why are you maintaining his vehicles? you're also ignoring the value of your time. My free hobby time is not vaued hobby is exactly what it is. you do realize that not everyone has the same interest in the same hobbies you do, right? saving $150 for what is generally a 1-2 day job is barely minimum wage. Hah, 1 or 2 days shows how little you know, took about 5 hours that depends on the vehicle. being an expert mechanic, you must realize that some vehicles are more involved than others, right? when i had the timing chain replaced on my vehicle, it took my mechanic two days because a lot of other stuff had to come out before he could get to the engine, and then it all had go back in afterwards. but ignoring that, even at 5 hours, saving $150 is a measly $30/hr. you clearly work for cheap. Installed a complete 3 ton central A/C in my 11 room house Installed a backup generator and switchgear system in same house Replace all the electricall wiring in basement and first floor Replaced all the water piping in the basement. those require licensing, and although you might be able to do it yourself, it still has to be inspected so that it meets code. I was licensed, both in refrigeration and to 600 volts in electrical, also as a 3rd class power engineer to 2000 horsepower boilers, worked on and repaired 1500 ton chillers nearly everyone is *not* licensed. obviously someone who is licensed can redo their own home, but that's *not* the case for everyone and you know it. you're neglecting the cost of the tools, parts availability and time. I have all the tools including a 6x36 Engine metal turning lathe, Milling machine, drill press, power hacksaw and all the handtools I need. Parts I buy as required. you didn't get all of that for free. Did I mention since 1995 I have built approximately 30 desktop computers for myself, family and friends. how many laptops did you build? laptops have outsold desktops for roughly 20 years. You don't build laptops sonny, you buy them. exactly the point, sonny. how many phones or tablets did you build? both have outsold traditional computers for nearly a decade.\ You don't build tablets and phones either, you buy them also, Are you stupid? surely you know that much ,sonny. exactly the point, sonny. So Bill and his dad were right, It pays to know your stuff. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Apparently you never do, you'd be wrong about that too. |
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On 2020-07-05 8:34 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: On this Apple subject, I used Apple IIs from 1980 to about 1990 then spent a BUNDLE on an Apple IIGS system, then a couple years latter Mr Jobs dropped all support for the IIGS system leaving me with a useless pile of rocks. mr. jobs was not at apple in 1990. he left apple in 1985. I used his name meaning Apple or are you too thick to figure that out. you used it incorrectly. it was also clear that once the mac came out in 1984, that the apple ii series was a dead end, certainly by 1990, when windows 3 came out. So from that day on I swore that Apple would NEVER see another penny of mine. And they never have. because you made a mistake in buying a dead end product?.. My mistake was listening to Apple bull**** hype. what hype? the apple ii first came out in 1977 and the iigs was released in 1986. neither were being hyped in 1990. by that time, the industry had moved on. apple was hyping the mac and microsoft was hyping windows 3. various other products were also being hyped, but they all failed and almost nobody remembers them, such as grid: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GRiDPad your iigs didn't suddenly stop working either. support lasted well into the 90s, and there are still people to this day using apple ii and even writing new apps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KansasFest what about when microsoft orphaned windows mobile 6 devices with windows phone 7, only to orphan that with windows phone 8, only to orphan that when they discontinued windows phone entirely, all within a few years time? I don't give a **** about phones, we were talking computers. phones are computers. for many people, their phone is their only computer and for others, it's the one they use the most. And all around a pigs ass is pork Rene |
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On 2020-07-05 8:34 p.m., nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: I don't drive but maintain my Sons vehicles, apart from doing the regular day to day stuff. Major overhaul of his Chrysler 747 Automatic transmission.saving $400.00 Removed and re soldered aluminum A/C condenser on his dodge minivan saving $700.00 I have done comlete brake jobs on all his vehicles savings $??? Replaced timing belts on his Toyota forerunner savig $150.00 I could go on for pages on vehicles alone but I will switch to the houe now if it's so important, why haven't you taught him how to do his own repairs? I did teach him and he became an expert mechanic. then why are you maintaining his vehicles? Because 1. he is my son. 2. he does all the driving for our family. 3 we work and play together as a family. you're also ignoring the value of your time. My free hobby time is not vaued hobby is exactly what it is. you do realize that not everyone has the same interest in the same hobbies you do, right? So? saving $150 for what is generally a 1-2 day job is barely minimum wage. Hah, 1 or 2 days shows how little you know, took about 5 hours that depends on the vehicle. being an expert mechanic, you must realize that some vehicles are more involved than others, right? No ****! when i had the timing chain replaced on my vehicle, it took my mechanic two days because a lot of other stuff had to come out before he could get to the engine, and then it all had go back in afterwards. holds true for any vehicle. but ignoring that, even at 5 hours, saving $150 is a measly $30/hr. you clearly work for cheap. It's not only the money, it's a great feeling working with your family members Installed a complete 3 ton central A/C in my 11 room house Installed a backup generator and switchgear system in same house Replace all the electricall wiring in basement and first floor Replaced all the water piping in the basement. those require licensing, and although you might be able to do it yourself, it still has to be inspected so that it meets code. I was licensed, both in refrigeration and to 600 volts in electrical, also as a 3rd class power engineer to 2000 horsepower boilers, worked on and repaired 1500 ton chillers nearly everyone is *not* licensed. Naturaly, that's a given obviously someone who is licensed can redo their own home, but that's *not* the case for everyone and you know it. you're neglecting the cost of the tools, parts availability and time. I have all the tools including a 6x36 Engine metal turning lathe, Milling machine, drill press, power hacksaw and all the handtools I need. Parts I buy as required. you didn't get all of that for free. Of course not, I acquired them over time, they don,t give those things away at your local bazzar. Did I mention since 1995 I have built approximately 30 desktop computers for myself, family and friends. how many laptops did you build? laptops have outsold desktops for roughly 20 years. You don't build laptops sonny, you buy them. exactly the point, sonny. how many phones or tablets did you build? both have outsold traditional computers for nearly a decade.\ You don't build tablets and phones either, you buy them also, Are you stupid? surely you know that much ,sonny. exactly the point, sonny. By the way I'm 86. So Bill and his dad were right, It pays to know your stuff. sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. Apparently you never do, you'd be wrong about that too. No , After reading so many of your silly posts I''m sure I am right. Rene |
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Bill wrote:
nospam wrote: In article , Bill wrote: My familiarity is based upon watching others, and what I learn when I hear someone talking about it or when I read about it (which is increasingly often!) At this point I don't use "Anything Apple", and I fully intend to keep it that way. in other words, your familiarity is *not* from direct experience, which was my point. with direct experience, you'd realize that a lot of the myths are just that, myths. From my in-direct experience, I've seen and heard all I need to know about whether I wish to buy Apple products. I don't wish to support computer-illiteracy. YMMV. that makes zero sense. Sort of like people who drive a car, but have no idea how it works. With cars being computers on wheels nowadays most mechanics don't know how they work either. Especially non-ICE ones. They plug in a laptop with diagnostic software and fix whatever the s/ware tells them to. Rinse and repeat until the car works again. When you take away knowledge from people, you may them rather dependent. I think Apple likes that model; I don't. Besides for our disagreement about the facts, our conflict in ideals is about as simple as that. Personally, I build computers with very good components that last for years, and to my chosen specifications. I did the same for my gaming PC. The majority of people are incapable. They prefer a reliable brand with support. Apple seems to encourage it's users to upgrade their hardware much more often, to say the least, Not even close to the truth. Very many keep their hardware for 5-10 years. I have four in the house - all work cast offs - with the oldest being 12 years old. My current work Mac is 4 years old and won't be replaced for at least another year. Whereas business PCs are routinely discarded after three years. and there customers don't get much choice. And it seems to discourage repair in favor of replacement. For phones and tablets, maybe, but not PCs. In fact they regularly have recalls to repair hardware for free. Can't see any wintel doing the same. By comparison, I've maintained my PCs with little hardship, without a trip to the Apple Store--and I like it that way, particular the last part. Go NewEgg.com! YMMV. Same. I'd never trust anyone to repair a computer better then me, but we're not the norm. |
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"Chris" wrote
| With cars being computers on wheels nowadays most mechanics don't know how | they work either. Especially non-ICE ones. They plug in a laptop with | diagnostic software and fix whatever the s/ware tells them to. Rinse and | repeat until the car works again. | I bought one of those error report gizmos. $50. Works well. The trouble is that all the errors are from things that didn't even exist a few years earlier. On my last truck I had to replace two exhaust pipe sensors. Exhaust pipe sensors?! Then it was going to be $350 just to buy the parts to replace two little camera sensors that monitor front wheel speed separately on turns. They register grooves in the disk. That's when I traded it in. It's got to where even doing it yourself is prohibitive. $350 to replace a useless item myself. $700 to have a shop unplug the old one and clip on the new one. I was better off paying a monthly loan on a new truck than chasing down overpriced, overproduced computerization glitches every month. An additional cost that many may not be aware of is that national auto part chains like Auto Zone or Advance are now charging the 66% mechanic's markup on parts. If a mechanic charges you $100 in parts it's really $60 + a $40 scam labor charge. Now many auto parts stores are charging the same $100. I think that started with Toyota official parts, but it's extended to aftermarket dealers. I discovered that when I bought a muffler/tailpipe at Auto Zone only to find out that a local hole-in-the-wall auto parts store was selling the same thing, *from the same manufacturer* for a little more than half the Auto Zone price. Oil? Far, far cheaper at Home Depot than at auto parts stores. But then Home Depot illegally refuses to take the dirty oil. It's ironic. In a time when prices and options can easily be checked online, it's easier than ever to get tricked into overpaying. |
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Apple Monopoly? Was: Why is Microsoft wasting time on this junk OS
nospam wrote:
In article , Rene Lamontagne wrote: Is it apathetic if you buy a refrigerator, but don't know how to repair it? You have refrigeration/cooling not only in your home, but in your car too. Â*I'd say if you don't already know how it works, then you haven't been challenging yourself very much. I think you would do well to understand the basic principles of cooling systems whether you choose to own a refrigerator or not. What are you going to do when you move away from home?Â* I replaced the main motor in my home air conditioner when it went out. Could you do that without risk of electrocuting yourself?Â* You would save $550 if you could.Â* Still not worth it to you? You are 100% right Bill, Knowing and understanding how things work is paramount to saving tons of money. not always. I don't drive but maintain my Sons vehicles, apart from doing the regular day to day stuff. Major overhaul of his Chrysler 747 Automatic transmission.saving $400.00 Removed and re soldered aluminum A/C condenser on his dodge minivan saving $700.00 I have done comlete brake jobs on all his vehicles savings $??? Replaced timing belts on his Toyota forerunner savig $150.00 I could go on for pages on vehicles alone but I will switch to the houe now if it's so important, why haven't you taught him how to do his own repairs? you're also ignoring the value of your time. saving $150 for what is generally a 1-2 day job is barely minimum wage. Installed a complete 3 ton central A/C in my 11 room house Installed a backup generator and switchgear system in same house Replace all the electricall wiring in basement and first floor Replaced all the water piping in the basement. those require licensing, and although you might be able to do it yourself, it still has to be inspected so that it meets code. in some cases, it will *not* pass unless it was done by a licensed contractor. Did all the general repairs on stoves, furnaces, washer dryer, and appliances for savings of thousands of dollars over the years .Again I could go on for pages. do you think knowing how to repair all of that is a requirement to own any of them? you're neglecting the cost of the tools, parts availability and time. If you insist on making excuses, you'll never fail to be able to find one. When you really save time and money is the "next" time you do a related repair... You can collect tools on an "as needed" basis, as desired, and you'll be able to reuse them too. Further illustrating my first point, after watching 2 YouTube videos, I gave myself a haircut last week (my wife did around the neckline with scissors), and it came out pretty well, exceeding my expectations. And, with my new confidence, next time I'll be able to really be quick about it. Moral: Don't be afraid to try, but sometimes "You have to be willing to break it in order to fix it...and strangely, it's about that moment, when the "nut breaks loose", etc. If you're afraid to fail, you won't really get very far. Too bad most of you never had "shop class" in high school. |
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