Windows Backup question

Win7-32-Pro

I have been making backups with Macrium, which seems to work fine.

I decided to look at Windows Backup.

Control -Backup and Restore displays "Windows Backup has not been set
up" and gives a link "Set up backup."

Clicking that link results in "The backup application could not be
started due to an internal error. The service can not be started
either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices
associated with it (0x80070422),"

Services shows Windows Backup as "Started."

There is a Toshiba USB-3 drive attached. Macrium finds it each night.

What am I missing?

-dan z-




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On 02/06/2018 09:46 AM, slate_leeper wrote:
Win7-32-Pro

I have been making backups with Macrium, which seems to work fine.

I decided to look at Windows Backup.

Control -Backup and Restore displays "Windows Backup has not been set
up" and gives a link "Set up backup."

Clicking that link results in "The backup application could not be
started due to an internal error. The service can not be started
either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices
associated with it (0x80070422),"

Services shows Windows Backup as "Started."

There is a Toshiba USB-3 drive attached. Macrium finds it each night.

What am I missing?

-dan z-







Since you are using Macrium, more than likely it simply disable Windows
Backup. That would be the correct thing to do as you would not want to
run two separate backup programs.

On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:45:46 -0600, philo wrote:

Since you are using Macrium, more than likely it simply disable Windows
Backup. That would be the correct thing to do as you would not want to
run two separate backup programs.

Highly unlikely I would say. I have Macrium Reflect Free 6.x installed
and when I click on the link "Set up backup." a dialogue opens asking me
where I would like to save the backup. So it works.

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s|b

On 02/06/2018 01:29 PM, s|b wrote:
On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:45:46 -0600, philo wrote:

Since you are using Macrium, more than likely it simply disable Windows
Backup. That would be the correct thing to do as you would not want to
run two separate backup programs.

Highly unlikely I would say. I have Macrium Reflect Free 6.x installed
and when I click on the link "Set up backup." a dialogue opens asking me
where I would like to save the backup. So it works.





The OP said "Windows Backup" . That is not the same as Macrium Backup.

philo wrote:
On 02/06/2018 09:46 AM, slate_leeper wrote:
Win7-32-Pro

I have been making backups with Macrium, which seems to work fine.

I decided to look at Windows Backup.

Control -Backup and Restore displays "Windows Backup has not been set
up" and gives a link "Set up backup."

Clicking that link results in "The backup application could not be
started due to an internal error. The service can not be started
either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices
associated with it (0x80070422),"

Services shows Windows Backup as "Started."

There is a Toshiba USB-3 drive attached. Macrium finds it each night.

What am I missing?

-dan z-







Since you are using Macrium, more than likely it simply disable Windows
Backup. That would be the correct thing to do as you would not want to
run two separate backup programs.

Macrium doesn't interfere with W7Backup. NTI on the other hand
(on some OEM OS installations) *does* interfere and breaks the
buttons on the interface.

The service that cannot be started, I'd want to know what service that
was, purely to understand how serious the condition is, and whether it's
going to break anything else. Most backup programs use VSS, and unless
Macrium has said something like "VSS Broken, using PSSnap instead", it's
probably not a VSS problem. But right off hand, I don't know what
other services it would need. It could be using a service, if the
backup function has a "schedule" and they decided to manage the
times involved, with their own service. When I've used W7 Backup,
I only used the "Full Image" flavor, and not their file by file
version (scheduled backups of my Download folder say).

Maybe Event Viewer has some record of what service did not start ?

You can do a backup with wbadmin if you want quick proof that
VSS still works. This is the equivalent of "System Image" under
Windows 7 Backup - the System Image function always wants
to back up C: and System Reserved, so you can never really
do a "small" backup this way. This command, as prepared,
is slightly redundant, in that two of the command line parameters
are asking that C: be backed up, but the actual backup only
has the one copy of C: in it. You would do this as Administrator
or from an account with "Backup Group" capability. On a regular
(non admin group) account, a command like this would likely fail.

wbAdmin start backup -backupTarget:E: -include:C:,D:,F: -allCritical -quiet

That puts a new folder at the top level of E, which includes
the contents of C,D,F and System Reserved. Make sure you have enough
space on E before copying C,D,F to it.

Paul

slate_leeper wrote:

Win7-32-Pro

I have been making backups with Macrium, which seems to work fine.

I decided to look at Windows Backup.

Control -Backup and Restore displays "Windows Backup has not been set
up" and gives a link "Set up backup."

Clicking that link results in "The backup application could not be
started due to an internal error. The service can not be started
either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices
associated with it (0x80070422),"

Services shows Windows Backup as "Started."

There is a Toshiba USB-3 drive attached. Macrium finds it each night.

What am I missing?

-dan z-

The service "Block Level Backup Engine Service" needs to started as

well. Is it enabled and started?


JT



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On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 00:09:38 +0000 (UTC), "JT"
wrote:

slate_leeper wrote:

Win7-32-Pro

I have been making backups with Macrium, which seems to work fine.

I decided to look at Windows Backup.

Control -Backup and Restore displays "Windows Backup has not been set
up" and gives a link "Set up backup."

Clicking that link results in "The backup application could not be
started due to an internal error. The service can not be started
either because it is disabled or because it has no enabled devices
associated with it (0x80070422),"

Services shows Windows Backup as "Started."

There is a Toshiba USB-3 drive attached. Macrium finds it each night.

What am I missing?

-dan z-

The service "Block Level Backup Engine Service" needs to started as

well. Is it enabled and started?


JT



Bingo! Thank you.

-dan z-


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On Tue, 6 Feb 2018 15:25:18 -0600, philo wrote:

The OP said "Windows Backup" . That is not the same as Macrium Backup.

Read the OP again. And then my follow-up. I was talking about Windows
Backup.

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s|b