Large list, Important Updates??

Now for several weeks I have a list of over 50 “Important Updates�. In
the past I have always kept my Windows 7 PC up to date. Why this list?
I tried to download a couple and it takes forever. Granted I don’t have
the fasted internet access but this hasn’t caused any problems in the past.

Why this large list???

On 08/26/2016 04:19 PM, Geri wrote:
Now for several weeks I have a list of over 50 “Important Updates�. In
the past I have always kept my Windows 7 PC up to date. Why this list?
I tried to download a couple and it takes forever. Granted I don’t have
the fasted internet access but this hasn’t caused any problems in the past.

Why this large list???

Somewhere along the line Windows 7 became reallllly slow for updates.
It seems to be a known issue now and MS has even issued patches for it.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102810

If you kept your PC FULLY updates with recommended and optional updates
it would fix its self. I just loaded my sister's machine yesterday and
it's taking for ever to download, hours plus. And I gave up.
I downloaded the Offline installer for SP1 to at least get those
updates, but it's not in SP1, it's someplace after.

If you google "windows 7 update is slow" you'll get more hints and ideas
than you probably have time to research. The issue I had is so many
of them want you to get them from windows update.... duh.... that's the
issue. And I downloaded some that looked like stand alone but all I
got was "searching windows update..." which seems to me to put me right
back where I was.

I've given up till I have time to just let it run for 12 hours. I did
that on my VM, I started it and went to bed. It was ready when I woke.
:-)

Geri wrote:
Now for several weeks I have a list of over 50 “Important Updates�. In
the past I have always kept my Windows 7 PC up to date. Why this list?
I tried to download a couple and it takes forever. Granted I don’t have
the fasted internet access but this hasn’t caused any problems in the past.

Why this large list???

Take a picture of the large list, and post it here.

Try the "clippingtool" in your OS, to take a screen shot.
Save as PNG.

On the following web page...

Select "Do not resize my image".

Select "Family Safe".

Then click "Choose Image".

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

The hardest part, is selecting the correct URL,
the middle part of the forum link, for inclusion
in your next post. Do *not* select the thumbnail
link, as the picture is too small.

Paul

Paul wrote in :

Geri wrote:
Now for several weeks I have a list of over 50 “Important
Updates�. In the past I have always kept my Windows 7 PC up to
date. Why this list? I tried to download a couple and it takes
forever. Granted I don’t have the fasted internet access but this
hasn’t caused any problems in the past.

Why this large list???

Take a picture of the large list, and post it here.

Try the "clippingtool" in your OS, to take a screen shot.
Save as PNG.

On the following web page...

Select "Do not resize my image".

Select "Family Safe".

Then click "Choose Image".

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

The hardest part, is selecting the correct URL,
the middle part of the forum link, for inclusion
in your next post. Do *not* select the thumbnail
link, as the picture is too small.

Paul

I hope this is not considered hijacking this thread. I also have a long
list (56 important, 27 optional) of updates that have accumulated ever
since I set updates to let me decide if I wanted to download them. I set
it this way because I got tired of just saying NO to the Windows 10 update
icon that kept popping up. Now that Windows 10 is not free, the pop up no
longer appears. Maybe it's time to download and install some of these
updates.

I used to check out the function of each individual update, just out of
curiosity, but it's gotten too time consuming, so I just 'trusted' them,
Still, I've always created a restore point before applying a set of
updates. A few time in the past, I have had to do a restore after an
update caused problems, and then research which update 'broke' things.

I don't apply non-manufacturer hardware updates.

I used the Snipping Tool to capture the list of 56 important updates
sitting in the updates.

http://postimg.org/gallery/2gewpyp9a/

The last time I let updates fly automatically was November, 2015.

winver.exe yields Windows 7 Home Premium, version 6.1, build 7601: Service
Pack 1 (It's 64-bit)

If I decided to get back to installing updates, any comments on which to do
first, or any other comments?

Thanks.

Boris wrote:
Paul wrote in :

Geri wrote:
Now for several weeks I have a list of over 50 “Important
Updates�. In the past I have always kept my Windows 7 PC up to
date. Why this list? I tried to download a couple and it takes
forever. Granted I don’t have the fasted internet access but this
hasn’t caused any problems in the past.

Why this large list???
Take a picture of the large list, and post it here.

Try the "clippingtool" in your OS, to take a screen shot.
Save as PNG.

On the following web page...

Select "Do not resize my image".

Select "Family Safe".

Then click "Choose Image".

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

The hardest part, is selecting the correct URL,
the middle part of the forum link, for inclusion
in your next post. Do *not* select the thumbnail
link, as the picture is too small.

Paul

I hope this is not considered hijacking this thread. I also have a long
list (56 important, 27 optional) of updates that have accumulated ever
since I set updates to let me decide if I wanted to download them. I set
it this way because I got tired of just saying NO to the Windows 10 update
icon that kept popping up. Now that Windows 10 is not free, the pop up no
longer appears. Maybe it's time to download and install some of these
updates.

I used to check out the function of each individual update, just out of
curiosity, but it's gotten too time consuming, so I just 'trusted' them,
Still, I've always created a restore point before applying a set of
updates. A few time in the past, I have had to do a restore after an
update caused problems, and then research which update 'broke' things.

I don't apply non-manufacturer hardware updates.

I used the Snipping Tool to capture the list of 56 important updates
sitting in the updates.

http://postimg.org/gallery/2gewpyp9a/

The last time I let updates fly automatically was November, 2015.

winver.exe yields Windows 7 Home Premium, version 6.1, build 7601: Service
Pack 1 (It's 64-bit)

If I decided to get back to installing updates, any comments on which to do
first, or any other comments?

Thanks.

Your pattern looks relatively normal. A pile of .NET 3.5.1 updates
at the top. And if you go lookup the KB3046017, it is dated Aug 2015.
And a check on archive.org shows that's probably the original release
date. So it's not like that particular one I picked at random,
was a reissue or something.

You're just a slow updater like me :-) Not wishing to get GWX particularly.

I would do the top one and the .NET first.

Then, depending on whether it will tolerate it, install the July cumulative.
Visit this site with Internet Explorer. The only reason for wanting this
one, is for the potential repair to Windows Update and the time it takes
for the update screen to appear. Without this, it can take 5-8 hours for
the screen to show the update list. Perhaps you've installed this already.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172605

If when you install that it says the update is "not applicable",
install the April 2015 Servicing Stack update first. You may
already have this installed in your system. And judging by your
list, I'm guessing you've already got this one.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3020369

For the rest of the updates, review them individually. Or, use one
of the update tools discussed recently (Blackhawk?). Somebody made
a tool for the express purpose of avoiding the telemetry updates
and so on.

Part of 3172605, is a few files for adding support for Universal Apps
to Windows 7. I expect that's why they're making cumulatives like
that one, to offload stuff people may have otherwise avoided. I
don't think there is a GWX '583 in there. I didn't see it in
the file list.

But really, the same result can be obtained, by just reading
the description individually on each update, and deciding whether
it belongs on your system. I've done this a couple of times for
newly installed OSes, and it can mean reading 150-200 of the
stupid things. It'll take more than one cup of coffee.

Paul

Paul wrote in :

Boris wrote:
Paul wrote in
:

Geri wrote:
Now for several weeks I have a list of over 50 “Important
Updates�. In the past I have always kept my Windows 7 PC up to
date. Why this list? I tried to download a couple and it takes
forever. Granted I don’t have the fasted internet access but
this hasn’t caused any problems in the past.

Why this large list???
Take a picture of the large list, and post it here.

Try the "clippingtool" in your OS, to take a screen shot.
Save as PNG.

On the following web page...

Select "Do not resize my image".

Select "Family Safe".

Then click "Choose Image".

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

The hardest part, is selecting the correct URL,
the middle part of the forum link, for inclusion
in your next post. Do *not* select the thumbnail
link, as the picture is too small.

Paul

I hope this is not considered hijacking this thread. I also have a
long list (56 important, 27 optional) of updates that have
accumulated ever since I set updates to let me decide if I wanted to
download them. I set it this way because I got tired of just saying
NO to the Windows 10 update icon that kept popping up. Now that
Windows 10 is not free, the pop up no longer appears. Maybe it's
time to download and install some of these updates.

I used to check out the function of each individual update, just out
of curiosity, but it's gotten too time consuming, so I just 'trusted'
them, Still, I've always created a restore point before applying a
set of updates. A few time in the past, I have had to do a restore
after an update caused problems, and then research which update
'broke' things.

I don't apply non-manufacturer hardware updates.

I used the Snipping Tool to capture the list of 56 important updates
sitting in the updates.

http://postimg.org/gallery/2gewpyp9a/

The last time I let updates fly automatically was November, 2015.

winver.exe yields Windows 7 Home Premium, version 6.1, build 7601:
Service Pack 1 (It's 64-bit)

If I decided to get back to installing updates, any comments on which
to do first, or any other comments?

Thanks.

Your pattern looks relatively normal. A pile of .NET 3.5.1 updates
at the top. And if you go lookup the KB3046017, it is dated Aug 2015.
And a check on archive.org shows that's probably the original release
date. So it's not like that particular one I picked at random,
was a reissue or something.

You're just a slow updater like me :-) Not wishing to get GWX
particularly.

I would do the top one and the .NET first.

Then, depending on whether it will tolerate it, install the July
cumulative. Visit this site with Internet Explorer. The only reason
for wanting this one, is for the potential repair to Windows Update
and the time it takes for the update screen to appear. Without this,
it can take 5-8 hours for the screen to show the update list. Perhaps
you've installed this already.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172605

If when you install that it says the update is "not applicable",
install the April 2015 Servicing Stack update first. You may
already have this installed in your system. And judging by your
list, I'm guessing you've already got this one.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3020369

For the rest of the updates, review them individually. Or, use one
of the update tools discussed recently (Blackhawk?). Somebody made
a tool for the express purpose of avoiding the telemetry updates
and so on.

Part of 3172605, is a few files for adding support for Universal Apps
to Windows 7. I expect that's why they're making cumulatives like
that one, to offload stuff people may have otherwise avoided. I
don't think there is a GWX '583 in there. I didn't see it in
the file list.

But really, the same result can be obtained, by just reading
the description individually on each update, and deciding whether
it belongs on your system. I've done this a couple of times for
newly installed OSes, and it can mean reading 150-200 of the
stupid things. It'll take more than one cup of coffee.

Paul


Guess I have my Sunday full, Thanks much.

Paul wrote in :

Boris wrote:
Paul wrote in
:

Geri wrote:
Now for several weeks I have a list of over 50 “Important
Updates�. In the past I have always kept my Windows 7 PC up to
date. Why this list? I tried to download a couple and it takes
forever. Granted I don’t have the fasted internet access but
this hasn’t caused any problems in the past.

Why this large list???
Take a picture of the large list, and post it here.

Try the "clippingtool" in your OS, to take a screen shot.
Save as PNG.

On the following web page...

Select "Do not resize my image".

Select "Family Safe".

Then click "Choose Image".

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

The hardest part, is selecting the correct URL,
the middle part of the forum link, for inclusion
in your next post. Do *not* select the thumbnail
link, as the picture is too small.

Paul

I hope this is not considered hijacking this thread. I also have a
long list (56 important, 27 optional) of updates that have
accumulated ever since I set updates to let me decide if I wanted to
download them. I set it this way because I got tired of just saying
NO to the Windows 10 update icon that kept popping up. Now that
Windows 10 is not free, the pop up no longer appears. Maybe it's
time to download and install some of these updates.

I used to check out the function of each individual update, just out
of curiosity, but it's gotten too time consuming, so I just 'trusted'
them, Still, I've always created a restore point before applying a
set of updates. A few time in the past, I have had to do a restore
after an update caused problems, and then research which update
'broke' things.

I don't apply non-manufacturer hardware updates.

I used the Snipping Tool to capture the list of 56 important updates
sitting in the updates.

http://postimg.org/gallery/2gewpyp9a/

The last time I let updates fly automatically was November, 2015.

winver.exe yields Windows 7 Home Premium, version 6.1, build 7601:
Service Pack 1 (It's 64-bit)

If I decided to get back to installing updates, any comments on which
to do first, or any other comments?

Thanks.

Your pattern looks relatively normal. A pile of .NET 3.5.1 updates
at the top. And if you go lookup the KB3046017, it is dated Aug 2015.
And a check on archive.org shows that's probably the original release
date. So it's not like that particular one I picked at random,
was a reissue or something.

You're just a slow updater like me :-) Not wishing to get GWX
particularly.

I would do the top one and the .NET first.

Then, depending on whether it will tolerate it, install the July
cumulative. Visit this site with Internet Explorer. The only reason
for wanting this one, is for the potential repair to Windows Update
and the time it takes for the update screen to appear. Without this,
it can take 5-8 hours for the screen to show the update list. Perhaps
you've installed this already.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172605

If when you install that it says the update is "not applicable",
install the April 2015 Servicing Stack update first. You may
already have this installed in your system. And judging by your
list, I'm guessing you've already got this one.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3020369

For the rest of the updates, review them individually. Or, use one
of the update tools discussed recently (Blackhawk?). Somebody made
a tool for the express purpose of avoiding the telemetry updates
and so on.

Part of 3172605, is a few files for adding support for Universal Apps
to Windows 7. I expect that's why they're making cumulatives like
that one, to offload stuff people may have otherwise avoided. I
don't think there is a GWX '583 in there. I didn't see it in
the file list.

But really, the same result can be obtained, by just reading
the description individually on each update, and deciding whether
it belongs on your system. I've done this a couple of times for
newly installed OSes, and it can mean reading 150-200 of the
stupid things. It'll take more than one cup of coffee.

Paul

Crap. Update 3046017 installed alright. But, when I tried to install
all seven of the .NET updates at once, three different times, they
failed every time.

Here's the error message I got:

https://postimg.org/image/tox5g0amr/

I did go to archive.org, next, and downloaded the Windows 7 64 bit 29.2
MB July 2016 update rollup, and tried to install it, but it kept saying
searching for updates, and wouldn't install.

I've googled to see what to do next, but nothing has helped.

Boris wrote:


Crap. Update 3046017 installed alright. But, when I tried to install
all seven of the .NET updates at once, three different times, they
failed every time.

Here's the error message I got:

https://postimg.org/image/tox5g0amr/

I did go to archive.org, next, and downloaded the Windows 7 64 bit 29.2
MB July 2016 update rollup, and tried to install it, but it kept saying
searching for updates, and wouldn't install.

I've googled to see what to do next, but nothing has helped.


Go back to Windows Update.

Check the History item on the left.
It should have successes and failures.

A failure followed by a success, means that one is finally
done properly, for example. What you're looking for, is one
that is failed, and is "clogging the pipe".

Look in the list. For the one that is failed and hasn't succeeded yet,
use Internet Explorer and fetch the update manually. Enter the
KB number on the end. Download the update. If the final download
is a .msu, then right click and "install" should work.

Using your pictures, you could download them all manually.
Depending on your tolerance of pain.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3122648
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3127220
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3135983
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3142024
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3142042
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3163245
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3072305

Another way to list updates, is with MBSA 2.3 . Tick just the
single item in the interface to scan for updates, and it can get the
list in 5-8 minutes. But it's not an install tool. The output
of MBSA 2.3 can be combined with the Catalog server method to
make a manual Windows Update (just for Important security updates).

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=7558

On the first run, it downloads a 100MB manifest file. That takes
a bit of time. On subsequent runs on the same day, it reuses the
file it already has.

So if, say, you didn't like waiting 5-8 hours for the Windows
Update list to paint on the screen, you could do the process
manually using MBSA 2.3 output.

But you should still eventually apply the July 2016 update rollup.
As it's supposed to reduce the time for Windows Update screen to work.
In my list before, the 3020369 should be the servicing stack one
(likely to be already installed). You'll need to unclog the pipe
by manually installing the broken .NET, before trying these.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3172605

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3020369
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172605

Paul

En el artículo , Paul
escribió:

But really, the same result can be obtained, by just reading
the description individually on each update

Many of them don't even have a description now, they just take you to a
generic landing page.

MICROS~1 want us to trust them and "just install". Yeah, right, sure,
after the GWX fiasco and the retro-fitting of Win10 "telemetry" (aka
spyware) to Win7 and Win8.

From another thread:

Today, Windows Update offered an "Important" patch. H'm, thinks I.
Let's see what it is... A timezone update for Egypt.

Yeah, dead important.

337KB - for a timezone update for a single country. What else is
lurking in there?

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(")_(")

Paul wrote in :

Boris wrote:


Crap. Update 3046017 installed alright. But, when I tried to
install all seven of the .NET updates at once, three different times,
they failed every time.

Here's the error message I got:

https://postimg.org/image/tox5g0amr/

I did go to archive.org, next, and downloaded the Windows 7 64 bit
29.2 MB July 2016 update rollup, and tried to install it, but it kept
saying searching for updates, and wouldn't install.

I've googled to see what to do next, but nothing has helped.


Go back to Windows Update.

Check the History item on the left.
It should have successes and failures.

A failure followed by a success, means that one is finally
done properly, for example. What you're looking for, is one
that is failed, and is "clogging the pipe".

Look in the list. For the one that is failed and hasn't succeeded yet,
use Internet Explorer and fetch the update manually. Enter the
KB number on the end. Download the update. If the final download
is a .msu, then right click and "install" should work.

Besides the seven .NET failures, there are 27 other failures from
yesterday. I do not know how they got there, but they are there.

At any rate, I did fetch KB3122648 (a .NET failure of yesterday) to my
desktop, just now. It was a .msu, and when I clicked it off, I saw the
old "initializing...installing 1 of 1....done!" that I remember seeing
in prior versions of Windows. I then checked the update history, and
showed KB3122648 successful. Now for the other 33.

Thanks.

Using your pictures, you could download them all manually.
Depending on your tolerance of pain.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3122648
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3127220
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3135983
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3142024
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3142042
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3163245
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3072305

Another way to list updates, is with MBSA 2.3 . Tick just the
single item in the interface to scan for updates, and it can get the
list in 5-8 minutes. But it's not an install tool. The output
of MBSA 2.3 can be combined with the Catalog server method to
make a manual Windows Update (just for Important security updates).

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=7558

On the first run, it downloads a 100MB manifest file. That takes
a bit of time. On subsequent runs on the same day, it reuses the
file it already has.

So if, say, you didn't like waiting 5-8 hours for the Windows
Update list to paint on the screen, you could do the process
manually using MBSA 2.3 output.

But you should still eventually apply the July 2016 update rollup.
As it's supposed to reduce the time for Windows Update screen to work.
In my list before, the 3020369 should be the servicing stack one
(likely to be already installed). You'll need to unclog the pipe
by manually installing the broken .NET, before trying these.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3172605

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3020369
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172605

Paul

On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 08:09:23 +0100, Mike Tomlinson
wrote:

En el artículo , Paul
escribió:

But really, the same result can be obtained, by just reading
the description individually on each update

Many of them don't even have a description now, they just take you to a
generic landing page.

MICROS~1 want us to trust them and "just install". Yeah, right, sure,
after the GWX fiasco and the retro-fitting of Win10 "telemetry" (aka
spyware) to Win7 and Win8.

What, pray tell, are the updates that have the Win10 telemetry" ??

From another thread:

Today, Windows Update offered an "Important" patch. H'm, thinks I.
Let's see what it is... A timezone update for Egypt.

Yeah, dead important.

337KB - for a timezone update for a single country. What else is
lurking in there?

En el artículo , masonc
escribió:

What, pray tell, are the updates that have the Win10 telemetry" ??

Here.

Cut and paste this into Notepad and save it as whatever.bat. Run
whatever.bat from an elevated command prompt.



rem Ease upgrade experience to the latest version of Windows.
wusa /uninstall /kb:2952664 /norestart

rem CEIP diagnostics and telemetry.
wusa /uninstall /kb:2976978 /norestart

rem CEIP diagnostics and telemetry.
wusa /uninstall /kb:2977759 /norestart

rem Enables you to upgrade to a later version of Windows.
wusa /uninstall /kb:2990214 /norestart

rem Enables Win10 universal CRT on earlier versions of windows.
wusa /uninstall /kb:2999226 /norestart

rem CEIP diagnostics and telemetry.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3021917 /norestart

rem CEIP diagnostics and telemetry. Replaced by KB3068708.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3022345 /norestart

rem Installs Get Windows X program. Creates UAC backdoor.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3035583 /norestart

rem Enables you to upgrade to Win10.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3044374 /norestart

rem Determines whether to migrate .NET 1.1 with upgrades to a later
version of Windows.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3046480 /norestart

rem Improvements to support upgrades to a later version of Windows.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3050265 /norestart

rem Improvements to support upgrades to a later version of Windows.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3050267 /norestart

rem Enables KMS hosts to activate Win10.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3058168 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win7 Windows Update Client. July 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3065987 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win8.1 Windows Update Client. July 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3065988 /norestart

rem CEIP diagnostics and telemetry. Replaced by KB3068708.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3068708 /norestart

rem Adds telemetry.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075249 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win7 Windows Update Client. August 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075851 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win8.1 Windows Update Client. August 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3075853 /norestart

rem Updates CEIP diagnostics and telemetry to match Win10.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3080149 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win7 Windows Update Client. September 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083324 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win8.1 Windows Update Client. September 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083325 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win7 Windows Update Client. October 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083710 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win8.1 Windows Update Client. October 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3083325 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win8.1 Windows Update Client. December 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3112336 /norestart

rem Improvements to Win7 Windows Update Client. December 2015.
wusa /uninstall /kb:3112343 /norestart

rem Updated capabilities to upgrade Windows 8.1 and Windows 7
wusa /uninstall /kb:3123862 /norestart



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(")_(")

Boris wrote in
09.88:

Paul wrote in :

Boris wrote:


Crap. Update 3046017 installed alright. But, when I tried to
install all seven of the .NET updates at once, three different times,
they failed every time.

Here's the error message I got:

https://postimg.org/image/tox5g0amr/

I did go to archive.org, next, and downloaded the Windows 7 64 bit
29.2 MB July 2016 update rollup, and tried to install it, but it kept
saying searching for updates, and wouldn't install.

I've googled to see what to do next, but nothing has helped.


Go back to Windows Update.

Check the History item on the left.
It should have successes and failures.

A failure followed by a success, means that one is finally
done properly, for example. What you're looking for, is one
that is failed, and is "clogging the pipe".

Look in the list. For the one that is failed and hasn't succeeded yet,
use Internet Explorer and fetch the update manually. Enter the
KB number on the end. Download the update. If the final download
is a .msu, then right click and "install" should work.

Besides the seven .NET failures, there are 27 other failures from
yesterday. I do not know how they got there, but they are there.

At any rate, I did fetch KB3122648 (a .NET failure of yesterday) to my
desktop, just now. It was a .msu, and when I clicked it off, I saw the
old "initializing...installing 1 of 1....done!" that I remember seeing
in prior versions of Windows. I then checked the update history, and
showed KB3122648 successful. Now for the other 33.

Thanks.

Using your pictures, you could download them all manually.
Depending on your tolerance of pain.

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3122648
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3127220
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3135983
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3142024
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3142042
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3163245
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3072305

Another way to list updates, is with MBSA 2.3 . Tick just the
single item in the interface to scan for updates, and it can get the
list in 5-8 minutes. But it's not an install tool. The output
of MBSA 2.3 can be combined with the Catalog server method to
make a manual Windows Update (just for Important security updates).

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=7558

On the first run, it downloads a 100MB manifest file. That takes
a bit of time. On subsequent runs on the same day, it reuses the
file it already has.

So if, say, you didn't like waiting 5-8 hours for the Windows
Update list to paint on the screen, you could do the process
manually using MBSA 2.3 output.

But you should still eventually apply the July 2016 update rollup.
As it's supposed to reduce the time for Windows Update screen to work.
In my list before, the 3020369 should be the servicing stack one
(likely to be already installed). You'll need to unclog the pipe
by manually installing the broken .NET, before trying these.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/3172605

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3020369
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3172605

Paul



Well, I spoke too soon, but all 56 updates are finally installed. It seems
all it took was patience,

I do have a question at the end.

Although KB3122648 went quickly (a few minutes) none of the other .msu
files I downloaded would install in a reasonable time. I lost patience and
could see that if it took hours or more for each manually downloaded
update, which could either install or fail, I wouildn't have use of this pc
for days.

I did a lot more googling, and found lots and lots of alternative fixes,
which worked for some, but not for others. Things like the FixIt Tool,
registry hacks, Windows Update Agent updates, etc. I didn't want to try
any, for fear of breaking things even more. I did do a scannow, though,
and all was well. I then tried the "Fix problems with Windows Update" in
the Control Panel's System and Security group.

I clicked it off, "Troubleshoot and help prevent computer problems-Windows
Update".

It ran for a minute of so, saying "Detecting problems-Checking for updates
online".

The results were, "Try Windows Update again-Online search for updates ran
successfully. Restart Update and click 'Check for updates' ".

OK, I did, and it did the usual 'searching for updates'. Hours went by,
and I went to bed. In the morning, it said, "Downloading Updates, 0%
done", but within minutes, it reported 97, 98, 99, 100% done, with all 56
updates, and I clicked off install. Odd, though, since I never asked to
download updates, and I'm set to 'let me choose to download'.

This install didn't take long at all, Finally, I got, "The updates were
successfully installed", "Restart now". I did, and this only took a few
minutes. I went to "View update history", and all showed Successful.

I did a "Check for updates", and got, "No important updates available".

http://postimg.org/gallery/32r6i6s3y/

I guess patience really is a virtue.

Since an update check shows, "No important updates available", do I still
apply KB3172605, the July rollup?

Boris wrote in
09.88:

Boris wrote in
09.88:



Really Big Snip

Since an update check shows, "No important updates available", do I
still apply KB3172605, the July rollup?



I now see that KB3172605 is listed in Optional Updates.

https://postimg.org/image/qxqtrbea5/

This optional update may repair the long wait times experienced with Windows
Update to show the update screen.

Boris wrote:
Boris wrote in
09.88:

Boris wrote in
09.88:



Really Big Snip
Since an update check shows, "No important updates available", do I
still apply KB3172605, the July rollup?



I now see that KB3172605 is listed in Optional Updates.

https://postimg.org/image/qxqtrbea5/

This optional update may repair the long wait times experienced with Windows
Update to show the update screen.

I would give it a try. Your wait time might drop
to 4 to 8 minutes.

Paul