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Old August 30th 16, 02:02 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Until recently I could use Teamviewer 8 succesfully to control my Windows 7
computers (only lan connections).
Now I'm getting a strange effect when logging in: I get an infinite number
of windows within each other, of the other computers desktop.
How can I fix this "joke"?



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Old August 30th 16, 02:56 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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Until recently I could use Teamviewer 8 succesfully to control my Windows
7 computers (only lan connections).
Now I'm getting a strange effect when logging in: I get an infinite number
of windows within each other, of the other computers desktop.
How can I fix this "joke"?


My Windows 7 PCs (one of which I use as a "terminal" to access the other
when I'm away from home) are on Teamviewer 11. Could the old version have
any bearing on the problem?

You windows-within-windows symptom makes me wonder whether you are running
Teamserver on a computer and accessing that *same* computer as opposed to
accessing a different computer. That would produce the visual equivalent of
howl-around feedback from a PA system where the mike picks up the sound from
a speaker that is reproducing the sound that the mike hears.

However Teamviewer 11 doesn't allow a circular connection: if you try it,
nothing happens.

So maybe you are getting another problem. Are you able to post a screenshot?

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Old August 30th 16, 05:32 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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Until recently I could use Teamviewer 8 succesfully to control my Windows
7 computers (only lan connections).
Now I'm getting a strange effect when logging in: I get an infinite
number of windows within each other, of the other computers desktop.
How can I fix this "joke"?


My Windows 7 PCs (one of which I use as a "terminal" to access the other
when I'm away from home) are on Teamviewer 11. Could the old version have
any bearing on the problem?



No idea. Version 8 (latest build) always worked fine for me. I never made
the effort to upgrade to the next versions. I have been searching though for
a clear comparison between all versions but never found the information.
However, I have to assume in any case that they will be larger...



You windows-within-windows symptom makes me wonder whether you are running
Teamserver on a computer and accessing that *same* computer as opposed to
accessing a different computer. That would produce the visual equivalent
of howl-around feedback from a PA system where the mike picks up the sound
from a speaker that is reproducing the sound that the mike hears.



Not that I know. I have no server but the same version of TV on both
computers. Also the same version Windows 7 on both computers.

Tonight I found at least a work around: I log in from the PC which works OK.
Then I choose "switch sides" and then it seems I can use the laptop the
normal way...



However Teamviewer 11 doesn't allow a circular connection: if you try it,
nothing happens.

So maybe you are getting another problem. Are you able to post a
screenshot?



I'll give it a try asap.




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Old August 30th 16, 05:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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Tonight I found at least a work around: I log in from the PC which works
OK. Then I choose "switch sides" and then it seems I can use the laptop
the normal way...


So two PCs - A and B - have the same version of TV and the same version of
Windows.

If you open the TV console on A and connect to B, you get concentric
windows. If you open TV console on B and connect to A, you are OK. And if
you run console on B and connect to A, then switch sides, you can see on the
two PCs what you'd see if you ran console on A and connected to B (but
without the concentric windows)?

Hmmm. That sounds extremely weird.

Can you think of anything that may have changed since it last worked
normally?

I wonder if it may be worth removing TV from both PCs and then reinstalling
it - ideally with V8 if you still have the installation exe; but, failing
that, with V11.

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Old August 30th 16, 06:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 15:02:08 +0200, "Linea Recta" wrote:

Until recently I could use Teamviewer 8 succesfully to control my Windows 7
computers (only lan connections).
Now I'm getting a strange effect when logging in: I get an infinite number
of windows within each other, of the other computers desktop.
How can I fix this "joke"?


You might be far happier using a free VNC, something like:

http://www.uvnc.com/home.html
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Old August 30th 16, 06:40 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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Tonight I found at least a work around: I log in from the PC which works
OK. Then I choose "switch sides" and then it seems I can use the laptop
the normal way...


So two PCs - A and B - have the same version of TV and the same version of
Windows.

If you open the TV console on A and connect to B, you get concentric
windows. If you open TV console on B and connect to A, you are OK. And if
you run console on B and connect to A, then switch sides, you can see on
the two PCs what you'd see if you ran console on A and connected to B (but
without the concentric windows)?



Right.




Hmmm. That sounds extremely weird.

Can you think of anything that may have changed since it last worked
normally?



Under TV options I have been testing my webcam, but disabled it again!
Furthermore I have Chromecast installed (on both computers) but TV has
worked fine without problems with these installed.
Here's the snapshot:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../test/echo.png

One other thing I just noticed, even more weird: when I minimize the TV
client window on the laptop and open it back to normal, it opens normally
but then rapidly the concentric windows builds up again!



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Old August 30th 16, 08:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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Here's the snapshot:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../test/echo.png


So you've selected the option (View | Switch to Full Screen) which makes the
window of the remote computer completely fill the screen of the local
computer that is accessing it remotely? That's presumably why I'm not seeing
the taskbar for the local PC.


One other thing I just noticed, even more weird: when I minimize the TV
client window on the laptop and open it back to normal, it opens normally
but then rapidly the concentric windows builds up again!


I'd contact TeamViewer support about this problem. It seems extremely odd.
Good luck in getting it resolved.

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Old August 30th 16, 08:18 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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Here's the snapshot:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../test/echo.png


So you've selected the option (View | Switch to Full Screen) which makes
the



No, I seldomly use full screen mode. I use scaleable window.


window of the remote computer completely fill the screen of the local
computer that is accessing it remotely? That's presumably why I'm not
seeing the taskbar for the local PC.



No, that's because I took a snapshot of the client window only (prntscrn +
tab)




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Old August 30th 16, 08:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" schreef in bericht
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"NY" schreef in bericht
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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Here's the snapshot:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/.../test/echo.png


So you've selected the option (View | Switch to Full Screen) which makes
the



No, I seldomly use full screen mode. I use scaleable window.


window of the remote computer completely fill the screen of the local
computer that is accessing it remotely? That's presumably why I'm not
seeing the taskbar for the local PC.



No, that's because I took a snapshot of the client window only (prntscrn +
tab)



Sorry: (prntscrn + alt)

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Old August 31st 16, 08:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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problem solved.

it seems for logging in I used a wrong ip id (the same as mine!) which was
stored as default.
ip adresses got mixed up somehow...



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Old September 1st 16, 04:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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problem solved.

it seems for logging in I used a wrong ip id (the same as mine!) which was
stored as default.
ip adresses got mixed up somehow...


Ah, so it *was* a circular connection: PC A accessing itself remotely
instead of accessing PC B. I did wonder, but discounted it because the
pattern of icons on the desktop etc is often different from one PC to
another, and you'd said if you were seeing your own PC's desktop rather than
the other one's.

Glad you've solved it.

Interesting that your version of Teamviewer identifies PCs by IP address
rather than by a unique Partner ID as TV 11 does. I presume you have to make
sure that your router always allocates the same IP address to the same PC,
in that case... Does your version allow you to access a PC that's somewhere
else on the internet, and not on the same local network - for example if you
leave your home PC on, can you access it from your laptop when you go away
on holiday and connect to the internet from the hotel's connection? If your
TV uses IP addresses, I'd have thought you might not be able to do this.

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Old September 1st 16, 05:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
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problem solved.

it seems for logging in I used a wrong ip id (the same as mine!) which
was stored as default.
ip adresses got mixed up somehow...


Ah, so it *was* a circular connection: PC A accessing itself remotely
instead of accessing PC B. I did wonder, but discounted it because the
pattern of icons on the desktop etc is often different from one PC to
another, and you'd said if you were seeing your own PC's desktop rather
than the other one's.

Glad you've solved it.

Interesting that your version of Teamviewer identifies PCs by IP address
rather than by a unique Partner ID as TV 11 does. I presume you have to
make sure that your router always allocates the same IP address to the
same PC,


I suppose so. But I recently moved to another provider (hence router) and
I'm not very familiar with the device yet.


in that case... Does your version allow you to access a PC that's
somewhere else on the internet, and not on the same local network - for
example if you leave your home PC on, can you access it from your laptop
when you go away on holiday and connect to the internet from the hotel's
connection? If your TV uses IP addresses, I'd have thought you might not
be able to do this.



Of course it does (according to TV) but I've never used it that way. I have
only experience with TV in local lan mode, so avoiding security risks rogue
access from internet.
For controlling my computers on my own network TV always worked fine. And
now I have learned to be aware of the correct ip address when logging in.
BTW I used Softperfect wifi guard to find out these addresses of my
computers. The free utility is also used to check for any possible intruders
on the lan.



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Old September 3rd 16, 10:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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in that case... Does your version allow you to access a PC that's
somewhere else on the internet, and not on the same local network -
for example if you leave your home PC on, can you access it from your
laptop when you go away on holiday and connect to the internet from
the hotel's connection? If your TV uses IP addresses, I'd have
thought you might not be able to do this.



Of course it does (according to TV) but I've never used it that way. I
have only experience with TV in local lan mode, so avoiding security
risks rogue access from internet.


I'm not sure you actually are; it was always my understanding that the
way TV works, even through firewalls etc., because it's designed for you
to help a person who doesn't know how to configure a firewall or even
what one is, was that both computers established a connection to a TV
server (in Germany?).

I may be wrong about this; a quick check would be - can you use it
between PCs on your "local lan", _when that LAN's connection to the
internet is absent_?

(I also thought that the "contact list" it keeps for you - of the people
[or computers] you help - was actually kept on the remote TV server, in
other words a lot like Skype. But, again, I could be wrong about that.)
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Old September 5th 16, 06:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"J. P. Gilliver (John)" schreef in bericht
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In message , Linea Recta
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"NY" schreef in bericht news:Y_6dneoc9vn13lXKnZ2dnUU78
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in that case... Does your version allow you to access a PC that's
somewhere else on the internet, and not on the same local network -
for example if you leave your home PC on, can you access it from your
laptop when you go away on holiday and connect to the internet from
the hotel's connection? If your TV uses IP addresses, I'd have
thought you might not be able to do this.



Of course it does (according to TV) but I've never used it that way. I
have only experience with TV in local lan mode, so avoiding security
risks rogue access from internet.


I'm not sure you actually are; it was always my understanding that the
way TV works, even through firewalls etc., because it's designed for you
to help a person who doesn't know how to configure a firewall or even
what one is, was that both computers established a connection to a TV
server (in Germany?).




You're absolutely right. Only: TV has a "LAN only mode" which I use. So it's
not the firewall that prevents internet access through TV, but TV itself.



I may be wrong about this; a quick check would be - can you use it
between PCs on your "local lan", _when that LAN's connection to the
internet is absent_?



To be sure I just did the test: I established a TV connection between the
PC's and then I pulled the DSL wall plug. Result: no internet connection but
TV session still works fine.



(I also thought that the "contact list" it keeps for you - of the people
[or computers] you help - was actually kept on the remote TV server, in
other words a lot like Skype. But, again, I could be wrong about that.)



That's right, but I had no need to register a contact list (yet). TV can
also be used without one.



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