padlocks instead of arrows on shortcuts? And how to stop specific UAC popups?

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 22:50:16 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

Really, there's no way to fix it other than command-line messing with
something I have to download? (Though I do respect Sysinternals.)

I could have sworn that your request used to be fairly common when UAC
first hit the scene. IIRC, there was an easy solution available, as

Yes, I thought so.

well. One of the first things I do on any of my PCs is disable UAC, so I
never paid attention to the details, but it seems like it had something
to do with starting Everything as a Logon task in Task Scheduler, where
you could run it with better credentials. Ring any bells, or am I
thinking of something else entirely?

From what Monty and Nil said, Everything has an install option (run it
as a service), which is supposed to avoid the UAC prompt (though it
seems not to have for me; not really a problem, as I leave it running
all the time, so it's just one UAC at startup). This Task Scheduler
thing has been suggested for other prog.s - I'll look into it, unless
it's simple and someone here knows it.)

Is there something I can do involving removing and then reinstalling
"Everything" (say), perhaps selecting different options, and/or running
the installer as admin., or similar?

I don't think that was it.

I find it difficult to believe that everybody who uses "Everything" on 7
accepts a UAC prompt every time they use it, or does magic spells to
avoid having to.

I personally don't know anyone in real life who leaves UAC enabled.

I exist purely in cyberspace ... (-:

Sure, a lot of people find it sufficiently irritating that they _do_
turn it off - which rather defeats its purpose. To me, it seems a
reasonable idea - I don't mind dismissing the odd UAC prompt when _I_
have instigated something (such as by running an installer), but would
pay attention if one popped up unexpectedly.
--
J. P. Gilliver

In message , JJ
writes:
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018 22:50:16 +0000, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[]
I find it difficult to believe that everybody who uses "Everything" on 7
accepts a UAC prompt every time they use it, or does magic spells to
avoid having to.

Group Policy has a setting which auto-elevate applications that require
Administrator rights (i.e. those with Administrator rights requirement
within their EXE file), but this setting applies globally, not per
application.

I didn't (don't, yet) want to turn them off altogether, just for
specific applications.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

I've been known to pull my pyjama top over my head and run around like a
footballer, but with the sweet, sweet bonus of swinging knockers.
- Sarah Millican, RT 2015/1/10-16

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
They suggest a psexec attack here. This assumes you
belong to the Admin Group and would normally have the required
privileges to do it anyway.

https://serverfault.com/questions/50...with-pre-allow
ed-admin-rights-windows

psexec.exe -h yourprogram.exe
[]
Psexec and Psexec64 are in PSTools on Sysinternals.ocm .

Paul

Really, there's no way to fix it other than command-line messing with
something I have to download? (Though I do respect Sysinternals.)
[]
I find it difficult to believe that everybody who uses "Everything"
on 7 accepts a UAC prompt every time they use it, or does magic
spells to avoid having to.

Can't you make a shortcut icon with those details
stuffed into it ?
[]
I'm sure I could (and probably taking less time than this discussion has
already); it just seems to me inconceivable that there's no solution
other than setting up a batch file (or shortcut) that involves a command
line switch of something that isn't part of Windows )-:.

I'll maybe look into the System Scheduler thing Monty and Nil mentioned.
(Though even that seems far from obvious: to me, System Scheduler sounds
like something for running things at a specified time/date, so wouldn't
be where I'd expect to look for for something to do with UAC!)
--
J. P. Gilliver

On 2/8/2018 2:40 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
writes:
[]
They suggest a psexec attack here. This assumes you
belong to the Admin Group and would normally have the required
privileges to do it anyway.

https://serverfault.com/questions/50...with-pre-allow

ed-admin-rights-windows

Â* psexec.exe -h yourprogram.exe
[]
Psexec and Psexec64 are in PSTools on Sysinternals.ocm .

Â* Paul

Really, there's no way to fix it other than command-line messing with
something I have to download? (Though I do respect Sysinternals.)
[]
Â*I find it difficult to believe that everybody who uses "Everything"
on 7Â* accepts a UAC prompt every time they use it, or does magic
spells toÂ* avoid having to.

Can't you make a shortcut icon with those details
stuffed into it ?
[]
I'm sure I could (and probably taking less time than this discussion has
already); it just seems to me inconceivable that there's no solution
other than setting up a batch file (or shortcut) that involves a command
line switch of something that isn't part of Windows )-:.

I'll maybe look into the System Scheduler thing Monty and Nil mentioned.
(Though even that seems far from obvious: to me, System Scheduler sounds
like something for running things at a specified time/date, so wouldn't
be where I'd expect to look for for something to do with UAC!)

It sounds like you're talking about this approach, I use it for
Everything and VB6, on my w7 ult x64, it works great, it's funny how
something so minor can be so annoying.
https://www.digitalcitizen.life/use-...ut-uac-prompts

On 08 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

Thanks Monty and Nil for this tip.

I uninstalled Everything. To make sure, I used Revo.
Then I ran the installer, selecting "run as administrator" to be
sure, and looked out for this "service" thing, and selected it.

Unfortunately, I still get the UAC prompt when I start Everything,
whether I start it from the tray icon or the context menu.

Check Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Services or Start | Run |
services.msc - is the Everything service listed, and is it running and
set to start automatically?

I'm really surprised you're having so much trouble with this. I've
installed Everything on many computers running XP, 7, 8.1, and 10,
always as a system service, and I've never been bothered with a UAC
prompt.

Maybe it would be best if you uninstall and reinstall it choosing the
Service option at that time.

In message , Nil
writes:
On 08 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

Thanks Monty and Nil for this tip.

I uninstalled Everything. To make sure, I used Revo.
Then I ran the installer, selecting "run as administrator" to be
sure, and looked out for this "service" thing, and selected it.

Unfortunately, I still get the UAC prompt when I start Everything,
whether I start it from the tray icon or the context menu.

Check Control Panel | Administrative Tools | Services or Start | Run |
services.msc - is the Everything service listed, and is it running and
set to start automatically?

I see a line "Everything | (blank) | Started | Automatic | Local System"


I'm really surprised you're having so much trouble with this. I've
installed Everything on many computers running XP, 7, 8.1, and 10,
always as a system service, and I've never been bothered with a UAC
prompt.

Maybe it would be best if you uninstall and reinstall it choosing the
Service option at that time.

I did that - using Revo for the uninstall to be sure, and running the
installer as administrator also to be sure.

I'm now going to try the thing Mike S pointed to (on digitalcitizen).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Grammar is there to help, not hinder."
-- Mark Wallace, APIHNA, 2nd December 2000 (quoted by John Flynn 2000-12-6)

In message , Mike S
writes:
On 2/8/2018 2:40 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[]
I'll maybe look into the System Scheduler thing Monty and Nil
mentioned. (Though even that seems far from obvious: to me, System
Scheduler sounds like something for running things at a specified
time/date, so wouldn't be where I'd expect to look for for something
to do with UAC!)

It sounds like you're talking about this approach, I use it for
Everything and VB6, on my w7 ult x64, it works great, it's funny how
something so minor can be so annoying.
https://www.digitalcitizen.life/use-...unch-programs-
without-uac-prompts

I'm working through that, and rapidly losing the will to live! I set the
"Action" for my new task to

"C:\Program Files\Everything\Everything.exe"

(copied from the start menu shortcut that works, though with UAC
prompt). [I tried without the quote marks, but it then said something
like "it seems you are trying to run 'C:\Program' with a parameter, is
this what you intended", so I put them back.]

I then got to "Now, to make sure that your task works, take it for a
test. Go to the Task Scheduler Library, right-click or tap and hold the
task that you just created and press Run.

Did the program you specified launch? If it did, you are done. If it did
not... well... start over. "

Well, you've guessed it: nothing happened.

---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
http://www.avg.com

I'm just going to accept the UAC prompt ... (-:
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Grammar is there to help, not hinder."
-- Mark Wallace, APIHNA, 2nd December 2000 (quoted by John Flynn 2000-12-6)

On 09 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

I see a line "Everything | (blank) | Started | Automatic | Local
System"

That's the right value.

Another thing to check would be the location of Everything's database.
The default location for a Vista or later installation should be:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Everything\Every thing.db

As I recall, on XP you had the option at installation time of placing
the database in the program directory. That's OK for XP but would
conflict with UAC and probably trigger a prompt. So, is the database in
the right place? I think you can move the database via Tools | Options
|Indexes.

In message , Nil
writes:
On 09 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

I see a line "Everything | (blank) | Started | Automatic | Local
System"

That's the right value.

Thanks.

Another thing to check would be the location of Everything's database.
The default location for a Vista or later installation should be:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Everything\Ever ything.db

There is a file of that name in that location. (It's the only file
there.)

As I recall, on XP you had the option at installation time of placing
the database in the program directory. That's OK for XP but would
conflict with UAC and probably trigger a prompt. So, is the database in
the right place? I think you can move the database via Tools | Options
|Indexes.

The box for location was blank, but when I clicked Browse, the browse
tree came up pointing to the above location, so I clicked OK. Closing
and reopening Everything still came up with a UAC prompt though (-:!
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Grammar is there to help, not hinder."
-- Mark Wallace, APIHNA, 2nd December 2000 (quoted by John Flynn 2000-12-6)

On 09 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

The box for location was blank, but when I clicked Browse, the
browse tree came up pointing to the above location, so I clicked
OK. Closing and reopening Everything still came up with a UAC
prompt though (-:!

Damn.

I got nothing else.

On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 00:39:34 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Nil
writes:
On 09 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

I see a line "Everything | (blank) | Started | Automatic | Local
System"

That's the right value.

Thanks.

Another thing to check would be the location of Everything's database.
The default location for a Vista or later installation should be:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Everything\Eve rything.db

There is a file of that name in that location. (It's the only file
there.)

As I recall, on XP you had the option at installation time of placing
the database in the program directory. That's OK for XP but would
conflict with UAC and probably trigger a prompt. So, is the database in
the right place? I think you can move the database via Tools | Options
|Indexes.

The box for location was blank, but when I clicked Browse, the browse
tree came up pointing to the above location, so I clicked OK. Closing
and reopening Everything still came up with a UAC prompt though (-:!


John, apologies if you've done this already, but have you tried a
site-specific search?
Google example: uac prompt site:voidtools.com

That brings up a handful of forum threads where the voidtools developer
tries to help folks with the issue you're seeing.

The first thread that I skimmed had some swings and misses, but what
worked was to exit Everything, then rename Everything.ini so that the
program uses all default values, (you can customize everything later or
rename the old ini back to its default name if you wish to revert).

The thread I'm referring to:
https://www.voidtools.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4356

The Google search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=uac+...Avoidtools.com


--

Char Jackson

On 2/9/2018 7:39 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Nil
writes:
On 09 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

I see a line "Everything | (blank) | Started | Automatic | Local
System"

That's the right value.

Thanks.

Another thing to check would be the location of Everything's database.
The default location for a Vista or later installation should be:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Everything\Every thing.db

There is a file of that name in that location. (It's the only file there.)

As I recall, on XP you had the option at installation time of placing
the database in the program directory. That's OK for XP but would
conflict with UAC and probably trigger a prompt. So, is the database in
the right place? I think you can move the database via Tools | Options
|Indexes.

The box for location was blank, but when I clicked Browse, the browse
tree came up pointing to the above location, so I clicked OK. Closing
and reopening Everything still came up with a UAC prompt though (-:!

Should run without UAC if you are starting in Task Scheduler. If you are
using an shortcut then the shortcut itself should NOT be set to run as
administrator.

--
Zaidy036

In message , Zaidy036
writes:
[]
Should run without UAC if you are starting in Task Scheduler. If you

I tried to set up a task in Task Scheduler, without success.

are using an shortcut then the shortcut itself should NOT be set to run
as administrator.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"Grammar is there to help, not hinder."
-- Mark Wallace, APIHNA, 2nd December 2000 (quoted by John Flynn 2000-12-6)

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 00:39:34 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Nil
writes:
On 09 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

I see a line "Everything | (blank) | Started | Automatic | Local
System"

That's the right value.

Thanks.

Another thing to check would be the location of Everything's database.
The default location for a Vista or later installation should be:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Everything\Ev erything.db

There is a file of that name in that location. (It's the only file
there.)

As I recall, on XP you had the option at installation time of placing
the database in the program directory. That's OK for XP but would
conflict with UAC and probably trigger a prompt. So, is the database in
the right place? I think you can move the database via Tools | Options
|Indexes.

The box for location was blank, but when I clicked Browse, the browse
tree came up pointing to the above location, so I clicked OK. Closing
and reopening Everything still came up with a UAC prompt though (-:!


John, apologies if you've done this already, but have you tried a
site-specific search?
Google example: uac prompt site:voidtools.com

That brings up a handful of forum threads where the voidtools developer
tries to help folks with the issue you're seeing.

The first thread that I skimmed had some swings and misses, but what
worked was to exit Everything, then rename Everything.ini so that the
program uses all default values, (you can customize everything later or
rename the old ini back to its default name if you wish to revert).

The thread I'm referring to:
https://www.voidtools.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4356

The Google search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=uac+...Avoidtools.com


This:

To disable the UAC Prompt:

Right click a shortcut to Everything or right click the
Everything.exe
Click Properties.
Click the Compatibility tab.
Uncheck Run this program as an administrator.
Click OK.

worked! Everything now comes straight up, no UAC.

How that had got ticked, I don't know; I won't swear it wasn't something
I'd tried.

Thanks!

(Pity that doesn't work for the other persistent one.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Not all those who wander are lost - J.R.R. Tolkien

On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 13:29:51 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Char Jackson
writes:
On Sat, 10 Feb 2018 00:39:34 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Nil
writes:
On 09 Feb 2018, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote
in alt.windows7.general:

I see a line "Everything | (blank) | Started | Automatic | Local
System"

That's the right value.

Thanks.

Another thing to check would be the location of Everything's database.
The default location for a Vista or later installation should be:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Everything\E verything.db

There is a file of that name in that location. (It's the only file
there.)

As I recall, on XP you had the option at installation time of placing
the database in the program directory. That's OK for XP but would
conflict with UAC and probably trigger a prompt. So, is the database in
the right place? I think you can move the database via Tools | Options
|Indexes.

The box for location was blank, but when I clicked Browse, the browse
tree came up pointing to the above location, so I clicked OK. Closing
and reopening Everything still came up with a UAC prompt though (-:!


John, apologies if you've done this already, but have you tried a
site-specific search?
Google example: uac prompt site:voidtools.com

That brings up a handful of forum threads where the voidtools developer
tries to help folks with the issue you're seeing.

The first thread that I skimmed had some swings and misses, but what
worked was to exit Everything, then rename Everything.ini so that the
program uses all default values, (you can customize everything later or
rename the old ini back to its default name if you wish to revert).

The thread I'm referring to:
https://www.voidtools.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4356

The Google search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=uac+...Avoidtools.com


This:

To disable the UAC Prompt:

Right click a shortcut to Everything or right click the
Everything.exe
Click Properties.
Click the Compatibility tab.
Uncheck Run this program as an administrator.
Click OK.

worked! Everything now comes straight up, no UAC.

How that had got ticked, I don't know; I won't swear it wasn't something
I'd tried.

Thanks!

Very cool! I'm glad you've got it sorted.

(Pity that doesn't work for the other persistent one.)

Is there another PC with the same issue? Maybe you can work through some
of those voidtools forum threads to see other causes and possible
solutions.

--

Char Jackson