Substitute for dead RJ45 Ethernet connection

On 2/25/2018 6:34 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:


I wish I knew a way to post screen images of relevant settings here
that would let you see what I see here. I used to know one of those
free web sites that anonymously accepted image uploads and returned an
URL of those images for viewing by anybody. Last time I checked that
site was full with suspicious ads and I want to stay away from those.

This one is still suspicious. It has a 1024x768 limit and
will reduce the resolution of larger images, to fit in that space.
All sites need to show you some sort of advertising, unless
you're paying a monthly rental.

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

When the upload is finished, it will return a table of URLs.
Look to the "Hotlink for forums:" row, third from the bottom.
Extract the URL from there. It will look similar to this.

** https://s14.postimg.org/582whzo75/some.gif***** # this is not a real
URL

Using a second browser, copy the URL into the browser and
verify the image is at full scale. I've made mistakes before
and used the thumbnail link instead, and that ends up being
an unreadably-small image. Testing with a second browser,
is to verify everything is OK.

That site receives so many uploads per month, their provider
presented them with a bill for $40,000 for the bandwidth used.
That's the bill for one month.

*******

The site you might have been thinking of, is "tinypic", which
used to be pretty bad in terms of the advertising content.
It would almost freeze the PC with the junk loaded in the
browser. When I visit that site now (someone posts a picture
via the site), I use a Linux VM :-)

** Paul

Thanks, Paul. You're right it was the tinypic site and I like this one
you just gave me a lot better.

Here are several links showing images of the Device Driver Page and from
the network diagnostics. Let me know if you need more.

https://s9.postimg.org/m0plwvaqn/Plugable1.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/t3xhchnvz/Plugable2.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/csxdg6yjj/Plugable3.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/qmlq58yun/Plugable4.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/5cy3ueq9r/Plugable5.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/i4ca0wcwf/Plugable6.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/6f8acxe7z/Plugable7.jpg

I've gotta' run now.

"cameo" wrote in message news

On 2/25/2018 12:22 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , cameo
writes:
On 2/23/2018 11:45 PM, Mike S wrote:
[]
I didn't try that but the fact that the router port yo which I connected
it would not light up suggested to me hardware problem. This was not a
big surprise to me because this particular Pavilion model's system board
had some problem before wher I had to reflow the solder on its graphics
chip a couple times. Eventually I had to replace the system board with a
new one with a more recent version of GPU.
[]
I contacted HP's customer support which was surprisingly accommodating
despite the out-of-warranty situation but even they could not help.
At that point I decided I had enough of trying to make thet RJ45 port
working again and try the USB3 method.
[]
Since you've had the system board out already, you'll know: is the
ethernet socket directly connected to the main board, or - as in a lot of
laptops - is it (maybe along with a couple of USB ports) on a small
board, that is connected to the main board by a cable? If the latter, it
might be worth replacing the small board - and/or checking the
connections of the cable connecting the two boards.

Luckily I still have pictures of the noteboook disassembly at various
stages, so I don't have to rely on my memory. Unfortunately the RJ45 socket
is soldered right to the motherboard, no a separate small board.
This is the HP Pavilion tx1000 model, more specifically tx1410us. It's a
real small notebook but I can run a full 1920 pix HD external monitor from
it while the notebook cover is closed and tucked away. Except the obvious
quality control issues, it's a really good design where you can access not
just the battery but the hard drive and memory slot really easily for any
upgrade. I wish I could say the same thing about my newer Lenovo laptop.


Just to add my two cents worth. I know you have tried a number of things
but try this:

Note - Make sure cable is connected to router

1. In the Network Properties, select Change Adapter Settings
2. Right-click on the Wifi connection and select Disable
3. Do the same on the wired connection, then right-click again to Enable.
4. Give it a moment and double-click on the wired connection and look at the
Details.

Assuming you have the DHCP setting on auto (no manual entries for TCP/IP4)
you will see an assigned address by your router, the gateway address (your
router) and the DNS servers. If not go back to the General tab and click on
diagnose.

I have seen a number of laptops that will not connect when the WiFi
connection is Enabled - especially on older gear. If it connects up with
the WiFi Disabled, that’s' how you'll have to run it and when you want WiFi,
unplug from the router and Enable the WiFi connection and it should connect
right up.


--
Bob S.

cameo wrote:
On 2/25/2018 6:34 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:


I wish I knew a way to post screen images of relevant settings here
that would let you see what I see here. I used to know one of those
free web sites that anonymously accepted image uploads and returned
an URL of those images for viewing by anybody. Last time I checked
that site was full with suspicious ads and I want to stay away from
those.

This one is still suspicious. It has a 1024x768 limit and
will reduce the resolution of larger images, to fit in that space.
All sites need to show you some sort of advertising, unless
you're paying a monthly rental.

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

When the upload is finished, it will return a table of URLs.
Look to the "Hotlink for forums:" row, third from the bottom.
Extract the URL from there. It will look similar to this.

https://s14.postimg.org/582whzo75/some.gif # this is not a
real URL

Using a second browser, copy the URL into the browser and
verify the image is at full scale. I've made mistakes before
and used the thumbnail link instead, and that ends up being
an unreadably-small image. Testing with a second browser,
is to verify everything is OK.

That site receives so many uploads per month, their provider
presented them with a bill for $40,000 for the bandwidth used.
That's the bill for one month.

*******

The site you might have been thinking of, is "tinypic", which
used to be pretty bad in terms of the advertising content.
It would almost freeze the PC with the junk loaded in the
browser. When I visit that site now (someone posts a picture
via the site), I use a Linux VM :-)

Paul

Thanks, Paul. You're right it was the tinypic site and I like this one
you just gave me a lot better.

Here are several links showing images of the Device Driver Page and from
the network diagnostics. Let me know if you need more.

https://s9.postimg.org/m0plwvaqn/Plugable1.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/t3xhchnvz/Plugable2.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/csxdg6yjj/Plugable3.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/qmlq58yun/Plugable4.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/5cy3ueq9r/Plugable5.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/i4ca0wcwf/Plugable6.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/6f8acxe7z/Plugable7.jpg

I've gotta' run now.


From Command Prompt

ipconfig

can tell you about whether an address has been acquired.

If the adapter returns the APIPA address, then it isn't making
contact with the DHCP server on the wired router. Or maybe for
some reason the DHCP server is using MAC filtering to deny
an address to the NIC ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address

169.254.X.X

You can assign a static address, instead of leaving a NIC
on full auto.

Adapters can be assigned priority, but that's not your problem. This
just shows it's possible to "bias" the adapters and carry more
traffic on one than another.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/change...iority-windows

And you can see some of those items, in the Properties of
the network connection as well. Since you just set up the
ASIX, these should not be damaged.

https://www.sevenforums.com/network-...roperties.html

Someone here identified several services. What I was hoping to
find, was a complete list of things that affect a network connection.

https://www.sevenforums.com/network-...o-network.html

network list service
network location awareness service
windows firewall

If there was a services issue of some sort, the problem could
occur for both NICs. It would be an issue common to both NICs.

Maybe a GPEDIT policy or GPO could affect the wired network.

I'm not a networking guy, so I don't have a "nice flow chart"
with an orderly checklist of things to look at.

You also usually have a "Network Troubleshooter" in the
Control Panels : Troubleshooters area. It will issue a couple
of network commands to reset things. But since your Wifi works,
I doubt that troubleshooter will make a bit of difference.

Your new NIC is GbE, and as a consequence has MDI/MDIX and it
won't matter what kind of Ethernet cable is used. If one end
uses GbE (eight wire, four pairs), it can find as few as two
working pairs and switch to 10/100BT operation. It can also
cross the transmit and receive so their wired properly, without
user assistance. So that's probably not the problem on the ASIX.

The router could have the wired interface turned off on purpose,
but you report the LEDs on either end are operating properly.

Paul

On 2/25/2018 9:02 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:
On 2/25/2018 6:34 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:


I wish I knew a way to post screen images of relevant settings here
that would let you see what I see here. I used to know one of those
free web sites that anonymously accepted image uploads and returned
an URL of those images for viewing by anybody. Last time I checked
that site was full with suspicious ads and I want to stay away from
those.

This one is still suspicious. It has a 1024x768 limit and
will reduce the resolution of larger images, to fit in that space.
All sites need to show you some sort of advertising, unless
you're paying a monthly rental.

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

When the upload is finished, it will return a table of URLs.
Look to the "Hotlink for forums:" row, third from the bottom.
Extract the URL from there. It will look similar to this.

*** https://s14.postimg.org/582whzo75/some.gif***** # this is not a
real URL

Using a second browser, copy the URL into the browser and
verify the image is at full scale. I've made mistakes before
and used the thumbnail link instead, and that ends up being
an unreadably-small image. Testing with a second browser,
is to verify everything is OK.

That site receives so many uploads per month, their provider
presented them with a bill for $40,000 for the bandwidth used.
That's the bill for one month.

*******

The site you might have been thinking of, is "tinypic", which
used to be pretty bad in terms of the advertising content.
It would almost freeze the PC with the junk loaded in the
browser. When I visit that site now (someone posts a picture
via the site), I use a Linux VM :-)

*** Paul

Thanks, Paul. You're right it was the tinypic site and I like this one
you just gave me a lot better.

Here are several links showing images of the Device Driver Page and
from the network diagnostics. Let me know if you need more.

https://s9.postimg.org/m0plwvaqn/Plugable1.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/t3xhchnvz/Plugable2.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/csxdg6yjj/Plugable3.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/qmlq58yun/Plugable4.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/5cy3ueq9r/Plugable5.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/i4ca0wcwf/Plugable6.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/6f8acxe7z/Plugable7.jpg

I've gotta' run now.


From Command Prompt

** ipconfig

can tell you about whether an address has been acquired.

Here it is with the WiFi turned on. As you see, the WiFi connection at
the bottom does have the Gateway IP, but the new USB adapter Local Area
Connection 3 does not.

https://s26.postimg.org/h51jw0z7t/Plugable8.jpg

If the adapter returns the APIPA address, then it isn't making
contact with the DHCP server on the wired router. Or maybe for
some reason the DHCP server is using MAC filtering to deny
an address to the NIC ?

I doubt it if you look at this page of my router. It has two Notebook7
entries with different IPs. The 192.168.1.191 is the new USB3 adapter
and the 192.168.1.188 is the WiFi.

https://s26.postimg.org/8zjhxv395/Plugable9.jpg


If the adapter returns the APIPA address, then it isn't making
contact with the DHCP server on the wired router. Or maybe for
some reason the DHCP server is using MAC filtering to deny
an address to the NIC ?

I doubt it if you look at this page of my router. It has two Notebook7
entries with different IPs. The 192.168.1.191 is the new USB3 adapter
and the 192.168.1.188 is the WiFi.

https://s26.postimg.org/8zjhxv395/Plugable9.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address

** 169.254.X.X

You can assign a static address, instead of leaving a NIC
on full auto.

Adapters can be assigned priority, but that's not your problem. This
just shows it's possible to "bias" the adapters and carry more
traffic on one than another.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/change...iority-windows


And you can see some of those items, in the Properties of
the network connection as well. Since you just set up the
ASIX, these should not be damaged.

https://www.sevenforums.com/network-...roperties.html


Someone here identified several services. What I was hoping to
find, was a complete list of things that affect a network connection.

https://www.sevenforums.com/network-...o-network.html


** network list service
** network location awareness service
** windows firewall

If there was a services issue of some sort, the problem could
occur for both NICs. It would be an issue common to both NICs.

Maybe a GPEDIT policy or GPO could affect the wired network.

I'm not a networking guy, so I don't have a "nice flow chart"
with an orderly checklist of things to look at.

You also usually have a "Network Troubleshooter" in the
Control Panels : Troubleshooters area. It will issue a couple
of network commands to reset things. But since your Wifi works,
I doubt that troubleshooter will make a bit of difference.

Your new NIC is GbE, and as a consequence has MDI/MDIX and it
won't matter what kind of Ethernet cable is used. If one end
uses GbE (eight wire, four pairs), it can find as few as two
working pairs and switch to 10/100BT operation. It can also
cross the transmit and receive so their wired properly, without
user assistance. So that's probably not the problem on the ASIX.

I haven't seen any reference to GbE (whatever that means) with this
adapter but it was referred to at the previous one that was using
Realtek chip. I retuened that one already.

I'm wondering if maybe the USB3 driver of my ExpressCard/34 is too old
and this new Plugable adapter expects a newer one and they are
incompatible. I wish I could find a more recent driver for it.

https://www.amazon.com/ExpressCard-3...scard+34+USB+3

cameo wrote:
On 2/25/2018 9:02 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:
On 2/25/2018 6:34 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:


I wish I knew a way to post screen images of relevant settings here
that would let you see what I see here. I used to know one of those
free web sites that anonymously accepted image uploads and returned
an URL of those images for viewing by anybody. Last time I checked
that site was full with suspicious ads and I want to stay away from
those.

This one is still suspicious. It has a 1024x768 limit and
will reduce the resolution of larger images, to fit in that space.
All sites need to show you some sort of advertising, unless
you're paying a monthly rental.

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

When the upload is finished, it will return a table of URLs.
Look to the "Hotlink for forums:" row, third from the bottom.
Extract the URL from there. It will look similar to this.

https://s14.postimg.org/582whzo75/some.gif # this is not a
real URL

Using a second browser, copy the URL into the browser and
verify the image is at full scale. I've made mistakes before
and used the thumbnail link instead, and that ends up being
an unreadably-small image. Testing with a second browser,
is to verify everything is OK.

That site receives so many uploads per month, their provider
presented them with a bill for $40,000 for the bandwidth used.
That's the bill for one month.

*******

The site you might have been thinking of, is "tinypic", which
used to be pretty bad in terms of the advertising content.
It would almost freeze the PC with the junk loaded in the
browser. When I visit that site now (someone posts a picture
via the site), I use a Linux VM :-)

Paul

Thanks, Paul. You're right it was the tinypic site and I like this
one you just gave me a lot better.

Here are several links showing images of the Device Driver Page and
from the network diagnostics. Let me know if you need more.

https://s9.postimg.org/m0plwvaqn/Plugable1.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/t3xhchnvz/Plugable2.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/csxdg6yjj/Plugable3.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/qmlq58yun/Plugable4.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/5cy3ueq9r/Plugable5.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/i4ca0wcwf/Plugable6.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/6f8acxe7z/Plugable7.jpg

I've gotta' run now.


From Command Prompt

ipconfig

can tell you about whether an address has been acquired.

Here it is with the WiFi turned on. As you see, the WiFi connection at
the bottom does have the Gateway IP, but the new USB adapter Local Area
Connection 3 does not.

https://s26.postimg.org/h51jw0z7t/Plugable8.jpg

If the adapter returns the APIPA address, then it isn't making
contact with the DHCP server on the wired router. Or maybe for
some reason the DHCP server is using MAC filtering to deny
an address to the NIC ?

I doubt it if you look at this page of my router. It has two Notebook7
entries with different IPs. The 192.168.1.191 is the new USB3 adapter
and the 192.168.1.188 is the WiFi.

https://s26.postimg.org/8zjhxv395/Plugable9.jpg


If the adapter returns the APIPA address, then it isn't making
contact with the DHCP server on the wired router. Or maybe for
some reason the DHCP server is using MAC filtering to deny
an address to the NIC ?

I doubt it if you look at this page of my router. It has two Notebook7
entries with different IPs. The 192.168.1.191 is the new USB3 adapter
and the 192.168.1.188 is the WiFi.

https://s26.postimg.org/8zjhxv395/Plugable9.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address

169.254.X.X

You can assign a static address, instead of leaving a NIC
on full auto.

Adapters can be assigned priority, but that's not your problem. This
just shows it's possible to "bias" the adapters and carry more
traffic on one than another.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/change...iority-windows


And you can see some of those items, in the Properties of
the network connection as well. Since you just set up the
ASIX, these should not be damaged.

https://www.sevenforums.com/network-...roperties.html


Someone here identified several services. What I was hoping to
find, was a complete list of things that affect a network connection.

https://www.sevenforums.com/network-...o-network.html


network list service
network location awareness service
windows firewall

If there was a services issue of some sort, the problem could
occur for both NICs. It would be an issue common to both NICs.

Maybe a GPEDIT policy or GPO could affect the wired network.

I'm not a networking guy, so I don't have a "nice flow chart"
with an orderly checklist of things to look at.

You also usually have a "Network Troubleshooter" in the
Control Panels : Troubleshooters area. It will issue a couple
of network commands to reset things. But since your Wifi works,
I doubt that troubleshooter will make a bit of difference.

Your new NIC is GbE, and as a consequence has MDI/MDIX and it
won't matter what kind of Ethernet cable is used. If one end
uses GbE (eight wire, four pairs), it can find as few as two
working pairs and switch to 10/100BT operation. It can also
cross the transmit and receive so their wired properly, without
user assistance. So that's probably not the problem on the ASIX.

I haven't seen any reference to GbE (whatever that means) with this
adapter but it was referred to at the previous one that was using
Realtek chip. I retuened that one already.

I'm wondering if maybe the USB3 driver of my ExpressCard/34 is too old
and this new Plugable adapter expects a newer one and they are
incompatible. I wish I could find a more recent driver for it.

https://www.amazon.com/ExpressCard-3...scard+34+USB+3


GbE stands for Gigabit Ethernet, a.k.a. 10/100/1000BT chip.
It is the fastest of commodity consumer NIC types and
supports MDI/MDIX automatic cable type detection.

*******

My motherboard has an ASM104x USB3 chip on it.
Set the OS selector here to Windows 7 and there
should be a ~5MB download. But the driver is from
the year 2013 and is version V1.16.12.0.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P9...Desk_Download/

Certainly other driver sources claim to be more modern
than that, but the commenters claim their USB3 won't connect.
I would be pretty happy myself, if the port actually worked.

http://www.station-drivers.com/index...d=2724&lang=en

*******

You seem to have an IP address. That's a good sign.

Now, can you "ping" from one wired machine to another
wired machine.

from 192.168.1.1 , I could do

ping 192.168.1.2

and from 192.168.1.2 , I could do

ping 192.168.1.1

You can test from either of the two machines,
towards the other, and see if there is a response.

And you can also go to Command Prompt and
run the ipconfig command on the ASIX machine
and get the rest of the details. See if there
is a gateway and so on.

C:\WINDOWS\system32ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.102
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1

If your DNS wasn't working, you should still be able to open
a web browser and enter

http://156.151.59.35

and it should be the same as doing

http://www.sun.com # The Sun/Oracle web site

Paul

On 2/26/2018 1:35 AM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:
On 2/25/2018 9:02 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:
On 2/25/2018 6:34 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:


I wish I knew a way to post screen images of relevant settings
here that would let you see what I see here. I used to know one of
those free web sites that anonymously accepted image uploads and
returned an URL of those images for viewing by anybody. Last time
I checked that site was full with suspicious ads and I want to
stay away from those.

This one is still suspicious. It has a 1024x768 limit and
will reduce the resolution of larger images, to fit in that space.
All sites need to show you some sort of advertising, unless
you're paying a monthly rental.

https://postimage.org/index.php?um=flash

When the upload is finished, it will return a table of URLs.
Look to the "Hotlink for forums:" row, third from the bottom.
Extract the URL from there. It will look similar to this.

*** https://s14.postimg.org/582whzo75/some.gif***** # this is not a
real URL

Using a second browser, copy the URL into the browser and
verify the image is at full scale. I've made mistakes before
and used the thumbnail link instead, and that ends up being
an unreadably-small image. Testing with a second browser,
is to verify everything is OK.

That site receives so many uploads per month, their provider
presented them with a bill for $40,000 for the bandwidth used.
That's the bill for one month.

*******

The site you might have been thinking of, is "tinypic", which
used to be pretty bad in terms of the advertising content.
It would almost freeze the PC with the junk loaded in the
browser. When I visit that site now (someone posts a picture
via the site), I use a Linux VM :-)

*** Paul

Thanks, Paul. You're right it was the tinypic site and I like this
one you just gave me a lot better.

Here are several links showing images of the Device Driver Page and
from the network diagnostics. Let me know if you need more.

https://s9.postimg.org/m0plwvaqn/Plugable1.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/t3xhchnvz/Plugable2.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/csxdg6yjj/Plugable3.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/qmlq58yun/Plugable4.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/5cy3ueq9r/Plugable5.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/i4ca0wcwf/Plugable6.jpg
https://s9.postimg.org/6f8acxe7z/Plugable7.jpg

I've gotta' run now.


*From Command Prompt

*** ipconfig

can tell you about whether an address has been acquired.

Here it is with the WiFi turned on. As you see, the WiFi connection at
the bottom does have the Gateway IP, but the new USB adapter Local
Area Connection 3 does not.

https://s26.postimg.org/h51jw0z7t/Plugable8.jpg

* If the adapter returns the APIPA address, then it isn't making
* contact with the DHCP server on the wired router. Or maybe for
* some reason the DHCP server is using MAC filtering to deny
* an address to the NIC ?

I doubt it if you look at this page of my router. It has two Notebook7
entries with different IPs. The 192.168.1.191 is the new USB3 adapter
and the 192.168.1.188 is the WiFi.

https://s26.postimg.org/8zjhxv395/Plugable9.jpg


If the adapter returns the APIPA address, then it isn't making
contact with the DHCP server on the wired router. Or maybe for
some reason the DHCP server is using MAC filtering to deny
an address to the NIC ?

I doubt it if you look at this page of my router. It has two Notebook7
entries with different IPs. The 192.168.1.191 is the new USB3 adapter
and the 192.168.1.188 is the WiFi.

https://s26.postimg.org/8zjhxv395/Plugable9.jpg


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link-local_address

*** 169.254.X.X

You can assign a static address, instead of leaving a NIC
on full auto.

Adapters can be assigned priority, but that's not your problem. This
just shows it's possible to "bias" the adapters and carry more
traffic on one than another.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/change...iority-windows


And you can see some of those items, in the Properties of
the network connection as well. Since you just set up the
ASIX, these should not be damaged.

https://www.sevenforums.com/network-...roperties.html


Someone here identified several services. What I was hoping to
find, was a complete list of things that affect a network connection.

https://www.sevenforums.com/network-...o-network.html


*** network list service
*** network location awareness service
*** windows firewall

If there was a services issue of some sort, the problem could
occur for both NICs. It would be an issue common to both NICs.

Maybe a GPEDIT policy or GPO could affect the wired network.

I'm not a networking guy, so I don't have a "nice flow chart"
with an orderly checklist of things to look at.

You also usually have a "Network Troubleshooter" in the
Control Panels : Troubleshooters area. It will issue a couple
of network commands to reset things. But since your Wifi works,
I doubt that troubleshooter will make a bit of difference.

Your new NIC is GbE, and as a consequence has MDI/MDIX and it
won't matter what kind of Ethernet cable is used. If one end
uses GbE (eight wire, four pairs), it can find as few as two
working pairs and switch to 10/100BT operation. It can also
cross the transmit and receive so their wired properly, without
user assistance. So that's probably not the problem on the ASIX.

I haven't seen any reference to GbE (whatever that means) with this
adapter but it was referred to at the previous one that was using
Realtek chip. I retuened that one already.

I'm wondering if maybe the USB3 driver of my ExpressCard/34 is too old
and this new Plugable adapter expects a newer one and they are
incompatible. I wish I could find a more recent driver for it.

https://www.amazon.com/ExpressCard-3...scard+34+USB+3


GbE stands for Gigabit Ethernet, a.k.a. 10/100/1000BT chip.
It is the fastest of commodity consumer NIC types and
supports MDI/MDIX automatic cable type detection.

*******

My motherboard has an ASM104x USB3 chip on it.
Set the OS selector here to Windows 7 and there
should be a ~5MB download. But the driver is from
the year 2013 and is version V1.16.12.0.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P9...Desk_Download/

Certainly other driver sources claim to be more modern
than that, but the commenters claim their USB3 won't connect.
I would be pretty happy myself, if the port actually worked.

http://www.station-drivers.com/index...d=2724&lang=en


*******

You seem to have an IP address. That's a good sign.

Actually, the Gbe connection does not have an IP address. Just check the
ptreviously sent Plugable8.jpg image, Connection 2 on top. The Wireless
connection at the bottom has both I and Gateway address.

Now, can you "ping" from one wired machine to another
wired machine.

*** from 192.168.1.1 , I could do

****** ping 192.168.1.2

*** and from 192.168.1.2 , I could do

****** ping 192.168.1.1

You can test from either of the two machines,
towards the other, and see if there is a response.

The ping does not eork even on the same machines between wired and
wireless connections and same across the two machines (fom/to the GbE
connection.)

And you can also go to Command Prompt and
run the ipconfig command on the ASIX machine
and get the rest of the details. See if there
is a gateway and so on.

C:\WINDOWS\system32ipconfig

Windows IP Configuration

Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

** Connection-specific DNS Suffix* . :
** Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
** IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.102
** Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
** Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.1

The relevant section is already on that Plugable8.jpg. What else do you
need?

If your DNS wasn't working, you should still be able to open
a web browser and enter

* http://156.151.59.35

and it should be the same as doing

* http://www.sun.com***************** # The Sun/Oracle web site

Actually, without Internet connection I can't even get local IP page up
in my Chrome browser. It's kind'a counterintuitive to me why that should
be so.

On 2/25/2018 8:58 PM, Bob_S wrote:
"cameo"Â* wrote in message news

On 2/25/2018 12:22 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , cameo
writes:
On 2/23/2018 11:45 PM, Mike S wrote:
[]
I didn't try that but the fact that the router port yo which I
connected it would not light up suggested to me hardware problem.
This was not a big surprise to me because this particular Pavilion
model's system board had some problem before wher I had to reflow
the solder on its graphics chip a couple times. Eventually I had to
replace the system board with a new one with a more recent version
of GPU.
[]
I contacted HP's customer support which was surprisingly
accommodating despite the out-of-warranty situation but even they
could not help.
At that point I decided I had enough of trying to make thet RJ45
port working again and try the USB3 method.
[]
Since you've had the system board out already, you'll know: is the
ethernet socket directly connected to the main board, or - as in a
lot of laptops - is it (maybe along with a couple of USB ports) on a
small board, that is connected to the main board by a cable? If the
latter, it might be worth replacing the small board - and/or checking
the connections of the cable connecting the two boards.

Luckily I still have pictures of the noteboook disassembly at various
stages, so I don't have to rely on my memory. Unfortunately the RJ45
socket is soldered right to the motherboard, no a separate small board.
This is the HP Pavilion tx1000 model, more specifically tx1410us. It's
a real small notebook but I can run a full 1920 pix HD external
monitor from it while the notebook cover is closed and tucked away.
Except the obvious quality control issues, it's a really good design
where you can access not just the battery but the hard drive and
memory slot really easily for any upgrade. I wish I could say the same
thing about my newer Lenovo laptop.


Just to add my two cents worth.Â* I know you have tried a number of
things but try this:

Note - Make sure cable is connected to router

1. In the Network Properties, select Change Adapter Settings
2. Right-click on the Wifi connection and select Disable
3. Do the same on the wired connection, then right-click again to Enable.
4. Give it a moment and double-click on the wired connection and look at
the Details.

Assuming you have the DHCP setting on auto (no manual entries for
TCP/IP4) you will see an assigned address by your router, the gateway
address (your router) and the DNS servers.Â* If not go back to the
General tab and click on diagnose.

I have seen a number of laptops that will not connect when the WiFi
connection is Enabled - especially on older gear.Â* If it connects up
with the WiFi Disabled, that’s' how you'll have to run it and when you
want WiFi, unplug from the router and Enable the WiFi connection and it
should connect right up.

I did not have much faith in this method, but I tried it anyway. Imagine
my surprise when it worked on the first try. Unfortunately only that one
time. As I was ready to finish that setup, I may have inadvertently
changed something that blew that wired connection and I could not repeat
your method successfully again. Go, figure ... The diagnose tap could
not fix it either.

I am gona give this a rest for a while and later I'll try to uninstall
the GbE driver and try to install the one that came with the adapter on
a mini CD. Maybe that older version could mash better with this old USB3
card even though the vendor urges people to use the latest drivers from
their web site.

Thanks for the help.

cameo wrote:


You seem to have an IP address. That's a good sign.

Actually, the Gbe connection does not have an IP address. Just check the
ptreviously sent Plugable8.jpg image, Connection 2 on top. The Wireless
connection at the bottom has both I and Gateway address.

OK, I see 169.254.228.49 which is in the 169.254.x.x range
of APIPA. That means for some reason, the ASIX adapter cannot reach
DHCP on the router. Are you sure the router is configured properly
for this ?


The ping does not eork even on the same machines between wired and
wireless connections and same across the two machines (fom/to the GbE
connection.)

You could manually assign addresses in the same subnet, but
above the range used by DHCP. If the DHCP was 192.168.1.199
with subnet mask 255.255.255.0, you could try
assigning the APIPA victim 192.168.1.225 or so.
Somewhere above where ever the last DHCP address
in the pool is set. The DHCP on my router has
a start address and number_of_addresses field, and
the DHCP values are dealt from that pool.

Not that pinging is a priority at the moment, with
statically assigned addresses. But I suppose it could
be used to prove the router wired interfaces actually work.


The relevant section is already on that Plugable8.jpg. What else do you
need?



Actually, without Internet connection I can't even get local IP page up
in my Chrome browser. It's kind'a counterintuitive to me why that should
be so.

Is the Wifi still up at this point in time ? If the Ethernet
is down, the Wifi should have picked up the traffic. Even if the
interfaces are prioritized, a NIC that can't carry traffic isn't
going to be able to share the load.

There's got to be some other weirdness in how you've wired
your network boxes. The situation is just a single router,
a bunch of computers, and one WAN connection feeding the router ?
The Windows 7 networking picture hints at the simple nature of
the setup. I thought there was some other option in Windows 7,
to make a slightly larger picture which could include more
networked devices in the picture.

Example here. (This capability was discontinued in later OSes.)

https://www.petri.com/create-network-map-windows-7

Paul

On 2/26/2018 6:19 PM, Paul wrote:
cameo wrote:


You seem to have an IP address. That's a good sign.

Actually, the Gbe connection does not have an IP address. Just check
the ptreviously sent Plugable8.jpg image, Connection 2 on top. The
Wireless connection at the bottom has both I and Gateway address.

OK, I see 169.254.228.49 which is in the 169.254.x.x range
of APIPA. That means for some reason, the ASIX adapter cannot reach
DHCP on the router. Are you sure the router is configured properly
for this ?


The ping does not eork even on the same machines between wired and
wireless connections and same across the two machines (fom/to the GbE
connection.)

You could manually assign addresses in the same subnet, but
above the range used by DHCP. If the DHCP was 192.168.1.199
with subnet mask 255.255.255.0, you could try
assigning the APIPA victim 192.168.1.225 or so.
Somewhere above where ever the last DHCP address
in the pool is set. The DHCP on my router has
a start address and number_of_addresses field, and
the DHCP values are dealt from that pool.

Not that pinging is a priority at the moment, with
statically assigned addresses. But I suppose it could
be used to prove the router wired interfaces actually work.


The relevant section is already on that Plugable8.jpg. What else do
you need?



Actually, without Internet connection I can't even get local IP page
up in my Chrome browser. It's kind'a counterintuitive to me why that
should be so.

Is the Wifi still up at this point in time ? If the Ethernet
is down, the Wifi should have picked up the traffic. Even if the
interfaces are prioritized, a NIC that can't carry traffic isn't
going to be able to share the load.

There's got to be some other weirdness in how you've wired
your network boxes. The situation is just a single router,
a bunch of computers, and one WAN connection feeding the router ?
The Windows 7 networking picture hints at the simple nature of
the setup. I thought there was some other option in Windows 7,
to make a slightly larger picture which could include more
networked devices in the picture.

Example here. (This capability was discontinued in later OSes.)

https://www.petri.com/create-network-map-windows-7

** Paul

Paul

I have had cases where it seemed like the first connection established
was used as the default connection by the computer, so if I connected to
wifi and then ethernet, in that order, the laptop used the wifi
connection, the ethernet connection would not carry any traffic. If I
disabled the wifi, the ethernet would become the default connection and
all of the traffic would flow over it. Do you know if that's how it works?

Mike S wrote:


I have had cases where it seemed like the first connection established
was used as the default connection by the computer, so if I connected to
wifi and then ethernet, in that order, the laptop used the wifi
connection, the ethernet connection would not carry any traffic. If I
disabled the wifi, the ethernet would become the default connection and
all of the traffic would flow over it. Do you know if that's how it works?

There's a means of adjusting that, here.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/change...iority-windows

I think you can also juggle bandwidth on multiple wired
connections that way too.

My networking setup is a little too simple to test that :-)
The router doesn't have Wifi for a start.

Paul

On 2/26/2018 7:47 PM, Paul wrote:
Mike S wrote:


I have had cases where it seemed like the first connection established
was used as the default connection by the computer, so if I connected
to wifi and then ethernet, in that order, the laptop used the wifi
connection, the ethernet connection would not carry any traffic. If I
disabled the wifi, the ethernet would become the default connection
and all of the traffic would flow over it. Do you know if that's how
it works?

There's a means of adjusting that, here.

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/change...iority-windows


I think you can also juggle bandwidth on multiple wired
connections that way too.

My networking setup is a little too simple to test that :-)
The router doesn't have Wifi for a start.

** Paul

"Under the Adapters and Bindings tab, you will see the list of
connection and their order in which they are accessed by Network
Connections and other related Windows services."

Nice, thanks!

snip

Just to add my two cents worth. I know you have tried a number of things
but try this:

Note - Make sure cable is connected to router

1. In the Network Properties, select Change Adapter Settings
2. Right-click on the Wifi connection and select Disable
3. Do the same on the wired connection, then right-click again to Enable.
4. Give it a moment and double-click on the wired connection and look at
the Details.

Assuming you have the DHCP setting on auto (no manual entries for TCP/IP4)
you will see an assigned address by your router, the gateway address (your
router) and the DNS servers. If not go back to the General tab and click
on diagnose.

I have seen a number of laptops that will not connect when the WiFi
connection is Enabled - especially on older gear. If it connects up with
the WiFi Disabled, that’s' how you'll have to run it and when you want
WiFi, unplug from the router and Enable the WiFi connection and it should
connect right up.

I did not have much faith in this method, but I tried it anyway. Imagine
my surprise when it worked on the first try. Unfortunately only that one
time. As I was ready to finish that setup, I may have inadvertently
changed something that blew that wired connection and I could not repeat
your method successfully again. Go, figure ... The diagnose tap could
not fix it either.

I am gona give this a rest for a while and later I'll try to uninstall
the GbE driver and try to install the one that came with the adapter on
a mini CD. Maybe that older version could mash better with this old USB3
card even though the vendor urges people to use the latest drivers from
their web site.

Thanks for the help.

If it worked once, it will most certainly work again. Been down that road
many times. Make sure the driver is installed and just use DHCP (assuming
your router is set to dish out the address) and go thru the procedure again.

I have two legacy laptops at a client (Asus and Dell) that will not connect
if both are enabled. You could try updating the chipset drivers and see if
that helps but I never have found out why nor a good fix other than
Disabling one or the other and then the one Enabled will work.

Bob S.

On 27/02/2018 01:11, cameo wrote:

On 2/25/2018 8:58 PM, Bob_S wrote:

Just to add my two cents worth.Â* I know you have tried a number of
things but try this:

Note - Make sure cable is connected to router

1. In the Network Properties, select Change Adapter Settings
2. Right-click on the Wifi connection and select Disable
3. Do the same on the wired connection, then right-click again to Enable.
4. Give it a moment and double-click on the wired connection and look
at the Details.

Assuming you have the DHCP setting on auto (no manual entries for
TCP/IP4) you will see an assigned address by your router, the gateway
address (your router) and the DNS servers.Â* If not go back to the
General tab and click on diagnose.

I have seen a number of laptops that will not connect when the WiFi
connection is Enabled - especially on older gear.Â* If it connects up
with the WiFi Disabled, that’s' how you'll have to run it and when you
want WiFi, unplug from the router and Enable the WiFi connection and
it should connect right up.

I did not have much faith in this method, but I tried it anyway. Imagine
my surprise when it worked on the first try. Unfortunately only that one
time. As I was ready to finish that setup, I may have inadvertently
changed something that blew that wired connection and I could not repeat
your method successfully again. Go, figure ... The diagnose tap could
not fix it either.

I am gona give this a rest for a while and later I'll try to uninstall
the GbE driver and try to install the one that came with the adapter on
a mini CD. Maybe that older version could mash better with this old USB3
card even though the vendor urges people to use the latest drivers from
their web site.

If the above works then you might be able to avoid the need for it by
going into ...
Control Panel
Network and Sharing Center
Change adaptor settings
Advanced
Advanced Settings
Adaptors and Bindings
.... and ensuring the cabled connection is set to be given higher
priority than the WiFi connection.

On 2/28/2018 5:48 AM, Java Jive wrote:
On 27/02/2018 01:11, cameo wrote:

On 2/25/2018 8:58 PM, Bob_S wrote:

Just to add my two cents worth.Â* I know you have tried a number of
things but try this:

Note - Make sure cable is connected to router

1. In the Network Properties, select Change Adapter Settings
2. Right-click on the Wifi connection and select Disable
3. Do the same on the wired connection, then right-click again to
Enable.
4. Give it a moment and double-click on the wired connection and look
at the Details.

Assuming you have the DHCP setting on auto (no manual entries for
TCP/IP4) you will see an assigned address by your router, the gateway
address (your router) and the DNS servers.Â* If not go back to the
General tab and click on diagnose.

I have seen a number of laptops that will not connect when the WiFi
connection is Enabled - especially on older gear.Â* If it connects up
with the WiFi Disabled, that’s' how you'll have to run it and when
you want WiFi, unplug from the router and Enable the WiFi connection
and it should connect right up.

I did not have much faith in this method, but I tried it anyway.
Imagine my surprise when it worked on the first try. Unfortunately
only that one time. As I was ready to finish that setup, I may have
inadvertently changed something that blew that wired connection and I
could not repeat your method successfully again. Go, figure ... The
diagnose tap could not fix it either.

I am gona give this a rest for a while and later I'll try to uninstall
the GbE driver and try to install the one that came with the adapter
on a mini CD. Maybe that older version could mash better with this old
USB3 card even though the vendor urges people to use the latest
drivers from their web site.

If the above works then you might be able to avoid the need for it by
going into ...
Â*Â*Â*Â*Control Panel
Â*Â*Â*Â*Network and Sharing Center
Â*Â*Â*Â*Change adaptor settings
Â*Â*Â*Â*Advanced
Â*Â*Â*Â*Advanced Settings
Â*Â*Â*Â*Adaptors and Bindings
... and ensuring the cabled connection is set to be given higher
priority than the WiFi connection.

Done, but no change in status.

On 2/27/2018 10:59 PM, Bob_S wrote:

snip

Just to add my two cents worth.Â* I know you have tried a number of
things but try this:

Note - Make sure cable is connected to router

1. In the Network Properties, select Change Adapter Settings
2. Right-click on the Wifi connection and select Disable
3. Do the same on the wired connection, then right-click again to Enable.
4. Give it a moment and double-click on the wired connection and look
at the Details.

Assuming you have the DHCP setting on auto (no manual entries for
TCP/IP4) you will see an assigned address by your router, the gateway
address (your router) and the DNS servers.Â* If not go back to the
General tab and click on diagnose.

I have seen a number of laptops that will not connect when the WiFi
connection is Enabled - especially on older gear.Â* If it connects up
with the WiFi Disabled, that’s' how you'll have to run it and when you
want WiFi, unplug from the router and Enable the WiFi connection and
it should connect right up.

I did not have much faith in this method, but I tried it anyway. Imagine
my surprise when it worked on the first try. Unfortunately only that one
time. As I was ready to finish that setup, I may have inadvertently
changed something that blew that wired connection and I could not repeat
your method successfully again. Go, figure ... The diagnose tap could
not fix it either.

I am gona give this a rest for a while and later I'll try to uninstall
the GbE driver and try to install the one that came with the adapter on
a mini CD. Maybe that older version could mash better with this old USB3
card even though the vendor urges people to use the latest drivers from
their web site.

Thanks for the help.



If it worked once, it will most certainly work again.

That's my hope, too.

Been down that
road many times.Â* Make sure the driver is installed and just use DHCP
(assuming your router is set to dish out the address) and go thru the
procedure again.

Yes, the router is set to use DHCP within a certain range of IP
addresses. But because I use several IP cameras as well, I had to
reserve some stable IPs for them so I could use port forwarding to them
from outside calls. Personally I don't see the rational of why I could
also not uses reserved IP for this GbE adapter. In any case I've tried
to use both reserved and unreserved IPs for it without any difference in
results.

BTW this router's (D-Link DIR-825) DHCP allocates new IPs starting from
the highest available one in the pool that I set to 100 to 200 and
continues to lower available numbers, skipping the ones that are
reserved for given MAC IDs.

I have two legacy laptops at a client (Asus and Dell) that will not
connect if both are enabled.Â* You could try updating the chipset drivers
and see if that helps but I never have found out why nor a good fix
other than Disabling one or the other and then the one Enabled will work.

I tried now the drivers that came on the enclosed CD, but still no luck
there. So I went back to the newest drivers on the ASIX web site.
I'd like to see some newer drivers for that Gmyle ExpressCard/34 but I
could not find any.