TIP: GPU Temperature and blowing out fans

On 03/04/2018 10:31 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Speed fan is good but I prefer Link 4.0 from corsair, Free, nice GUI
interface Graphing on all points, temp and speed, Really nice program.

Nice GUI? Are you kidding us? What a farking mess. Extremely busy GUI
compared to the data. A perfect example of a bloated UI.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/landing...e=system-panel

Do they provide simple skins to present the information? Else, by
comparison, Speedfan is elegant because it is simple. This is like
comparing this outfit:

If you cared to look they provide plain dark or light skins.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...1851393284.jpg

to this outfit:

https://imgur.com/a/JpVUA

I've seen lots of users that love to make their desktops busy by using
loud and dense backgrounds and even animated ones (and too often have a
mess for a Start menu). I use a simple black background on my PC and
smartphone. The objective isn't the noise, it's the information. When
did users start relishing disorganization?

Look again


The only advantage with the Corsair tool is that is works with some
specific Corsair products other than just the fan and speed sensors on
the motherboard. If I had a Corsair mobo and PSU, I'd sure wish this
tool had alternate and less busy skins.

It works on any number of motherboard, I have it on Asus, Gigabyte and MSI.

Look once more,It has 5 Skins

Rene

On 03/04/2018 10:54 AM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 03/04/2018 10:31 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Speed fan is good but I prefer Link 4.0 from corsair, Free, nice GUI
interface Graphing on all points, temp and speed, Really nice program.

Nice GUI?Â* Are you kidding us?Â* What a farking mess.Â* Extremely busy GUI
compared to the data.Â* A perfect example of a bloated UI.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/landing...e=system-panel


Do they provide simple skins to present the information?Â* Else, by
comparison, Speedfan is elegant because it is simple.Â* This is like
comparing this outfit:

If you cared to look they provide plain dark or light skins.



http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...1851393284.jpg


to this outfit:

https://imgur.com/a/JpVUA

I've seen lots of users that love to make their desktops busy by using
loud and dense backgrounds and even animated ones (and too often have a
mess for a Start menu).Â* I use a simple black background on my PC and
smartphone.Â* The objective isn't the noise, it's the information.Â* When
did users start relishing disorganization?

Look again


The only advantage with the Corsair tool is that is works with some
specific Corsair products other than just the fan and speed sensors on
the motherboard.Â* If I had a Corsair mobo and PSU, I'd sure wish this
tool had alternate and less busy skins.

It works on any number of motherboard, I have it on Asus, Gigabyte and MSI.

Look once more,It has 5 Skins

Rene


to add to my last post to VanguardLH that link you posted is way out of
date and Not the Program I was referring to.

Try 4.9.5.25, LINK 4
Lets get on the same page Please.

Rene

On 03/03/2018 04:25 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

There is a "Or skip this step and start Download" link below the boxes.
(The version appears to be 4.9.5.25 .)

I did not see that. Thank you!

On 03/03/2018 04:34 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I would think that you would be interested in receiving their newsletter
about all the corsair product

I use Kingston for memory products. In 22 years I have only
had one bad Kingston module. And Kingston's Tech support is
unbelievably good.

Corsair seems like I have to return every other thing I order
from them. I don't care for their stuff.

To keep current, I look at the new products newsletters my
distributors send out. A lot of that is junk though.

T wrote:
On 03/03/2018 04:34 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
I would think that you would be interested in receiving their
newsletter about all the corsair product

I use Kingston for memory products. In 22 years I have only
had one bad Kingston module. And Kingston's Tech support is
unbelievably good.

Corsair seems like I have to return every other thing I order
from them. I don't care for their stuff.

To keep current, I look at the new products newsletters my
distributors send out. A lot of that is junk though.


Kingston is generally pretty good, with a tiny caveat.

Kingston makes datasheets for the modules not intended
for specific machines. This has the advantage that you
know in advance what you're buying (high density or low
density RAM).

However, in recent years, they've slipped up. And once
you slip up, your reputation is ruined, because now
people have to be on the lookout for trouble.

They mixed single sided and double sided DIMMs for the same
SKU. It depended on what contractor they came from,
what the spot market price was for two different sizes
of chips. Since the chips were so close in price per
bit of storage, this would vary from week to week.

Then, when someone with a VIA chipset board bought the
DIMMs, the spec sheet said they were basically low density,
while what was shipped was a mixture (a "crapshoot"). And this
effectively negates the purpose of spec sheets.

Kingston is only as good as their QA people. Since the
goods may be packaged without Kingston looking at them,
they need to sample their wares and make sure what's being
shipped is described accurately. For some reason, they
flat-out refused to make two SKUs, so the low and high
density sticks would have separate datasheets.

Then, when they use specific-enough SKUs for things,
and the customer uses their database, they can be confident
the purchase will be right on the first attempt.

I only know this stuff, by debugging problems people
bring to USENET, with their DIMM purchases. I use
the visual info about the product, plus (if I can get
them to do it), use CPUZ to dump the SPD chip contents,
which helps verify some things. But at least in a few
cases, an educated guess (lots of edge cases where a
certain size double-sided works, while the single
sided with 2x larger chips doesn't work) is sufficient
for a start. And picking up a Kingston PDF showing
double sided and someone tells me there were chips on
only one side, that's a dead giveaway of a QA problem
right there.

Paul

In message , T writes:
On 03/03/2018 04:25 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

There is a "Or skip this step and start Download" link below the
boxes. (The version appears to be 4.9.5.25 .)

I did not see that. Thank you!

I downloaded that, and installed it: when I ran it, something zoomed up,
but did not remain visible, though a bar appeared in the taskbar. If I
minimised all windows, then repeatedly clicked on the taskbar bar,
something zoomed out (and back in on every other click), but did not
remain visible (i. e. I still had a blank desktop). So I thoroughly
_un_installed it, and downloaded the earliest (if you put Link into the
search box, it lists ten versions). That installed; when I ran it, it
told me there was a later version, did I want it? I said yes, and it
seemed to install and work fine now.

I haven't heard my fan run, in normal operation, since running that,
though, and the laptop _is_ rather hot. I've run the built-in Toshiba
diagnostic, which _did_ run the fan, and said it was good. But I still
have the feeling that running Link may have changed some setting
somewhere )-:, even though I've done my best to ensure it's not running
(there's certainly nothing called Link showing in task manager). When I
was running link, there was one place where there seemed to be three
modes, but one of them had to be selected, you couldn't select none.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Imagine a world with no hypothetical situations...

On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 00:25:30 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , T writes:
On 03/03/2018 02:12 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Link 4.0 from corsair

This one?

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/downloads#download_form_84

I am always leery of folks that want your
information before giving your something free.


There is a "Or skip this step and start Download" link below the boxes.
(The version appears to be 4.9.5.25 .)



There are several choices of downloads on that page. Can you, or
someone else here, tell me how to know which one to download?

And I don't see a "Or skip this step and start Download" link there.

On 03/05/2018 11:53 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 00:25:30 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , T writes:
On 03/03/2018 02:12 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Link 4.0 from corsair

This one?

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/downloads#download_form_84

I am always leery of folks that want your
information before giving your something free.


There is a "Or skip this step and start Download" link below the boxes.
(The version appears to be 4.9.5.25 .)



There are several choices of downloads on that page. Can you, or
someone else here, tell me how to know which one to download?

And I don't see a "Or skip this step and start Download" link there.



On that page there is a select category box, choose "Corsair Link".
then on the page that opens you want Link 4.9.5.25, that is the latest.

Rene

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Do they provide simple skins to present the information? Else, by
comparison, Speedfan is elegant because it is simple.

If you cared to look they provide plain dark or light skins.

Look WHERE? I did care to look. In fact, I gave the URL to their
product page that you did not so I had to guess that is the tool to
which you referred. I see no skins. They present no skins. Visit the
URL that I gave. Where do YOU see any skins presented?

On 03/05/2018 1:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Do they provide simple skins to present the information? Else, by
comparison, Speedfan is elegant because it is simple.

If you cared to look they provide plain dark or light skins.

Look WHERE? I did care to look. In fact, I gave the URL to their
product page that you did not so I had to guess that is the tool to
which you referred. I see no skins. They present no skins. Visit the
URL that I gave. Where do YOU see any skins presented?



Yes you seem to have an old page, I should have included the proper one.

You need the version 4.9.5.25 which is the one I have, it is the latest
one on this page.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/downloads

Select category, Corsair Link, than 4.9.5.25
Then you will find all the settings etc

Rene

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Do they provide simple skins to present the information? Else, by
comparison, Speedfan is elegant because it is simple.

If you cared to look they provide plain dark or light skins.

Look WHERE? I did care to look. In fact, I gave the URL to their
product page that you did not so I had to guess that is the tool to
which you referred. I see no skins. They present no skins. Visit the
URL that I gave. Where do YOU see any skins presented?

Yes you seem to have an old page, I should have included the proper one.

You need the version 4.9.5.25 which is the one I have, it is the latest
one on this page.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/downloads

Select category, Corsair Link, than 4.9.5.25
Then you will find all the settings etc

Ah, so Corsair won't show be the proper (latest version) screenshots.
Instead I would have to *install* the program before I can see what it
looks like. Thanks for the info but no thanks. I don't install
software just to see what it might look like. I do that ahead of time
as part of researching the software. Corsair really needs to update the
product page to show screenshots for their latest version.

I did a Google Images search on "corsair link" and found some users had
posted screenshots showing a different skin than the one Corsair shows
on their site, like:

http://i.imgur.com/T8DNKnW.png

So they have a less busy page. Hopefully the user can turn off the
blaring white-on-bright-red section titles but it's better than the
background showing the inside of a computer case.

On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 12:53:03 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 03/05/2018 11:53 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 00:25:30 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , T writes:
On 03/03/2018 02:12 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Link 4.0 from corsair

This one?

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/downloads#download_form_84

I am always leery of folks that want your
information before giving your something free.


There is a "Or skip this step and start Download" link below the boxes.
(The version appears to be 4.9.5.25 .)



There are several choices of downloads on that page. Can you, or
someone else here, tell me how to know which one to download?

And I don't see a "Or skip this step and start Download" link there.



On that page there is a select category box, choose "Corsair Link".
then on the page that opens you want Link 4.9.5.25, that is the latest.




Thanks very much Downloading now.

On 03/05/2018 2:50 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Do they provide simple skins to present the information? Else, by
comparison, Speedfan is elegant because it is simple.

If you cared to look they provide plain dark or light skins.

Look WHERE? I did care to look. In fact, I gave the URL to their
product page that you did not so I had to guess that is the tool to
which you referred. I see no skins. They present no skins. Visit the
URL that I gave. Where do YOU see any skins presented?

Yes you seem to have an old page, I should have included the proper one.

You need the version 4.9.5.25 which is the one I have, it is the latest
one on this page.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/downloads

Select category, Corsair Link, than 4.9.5.25
Then you will find all the settings etc

Ah, so Corsair won't show be the proper (latest version) screenshots.
Instead I would have to *install* the program before I can see what it
looks like. Thanks for the info but no thanks. I don't install
software just to see what it might look like. I do that ahead of time
as part of researching the software. Corsair really needs to update the
product page to show screenshots for their latest version.

I did a Google Images search on "corsair link" and found some users had
posted screenshots showing a different skin than the one Corsair shows
on their site, like:

http://i.imgur.com/T8DNKnW.png

So they have a less busy page. Hopefully the user can turn off the
blaring white-on-bright-red section titles but it's better than the
background showing the inside of a computer case.


Yes, you can make the text any color you like (color picker)
and you can make the title bars any color you want also.
The updated computer case page is available as a separate page if desired.
There are 5 skins some are plain black or white.
The image you showed is a typical home page, another page is graphing
where you can see all your fan speeds and voltages as graphs.
What more can I tell you.

Rene

On 03/05/2018 2:52 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Mon, 5 Mar 2018 12:53:03 -0600, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

On 03/05/2018 11:53 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
On Sun, 4 Mar 2018 00:25:30 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , T writes:
On 03/03/2018 02:12 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
Link 4.0 from corsair

This one?

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/downloads#download_form_84

I am always leery of folks that want your
information before giving your something free.


There is a "Or skip this step and start Download" link below the boxes.
(The version appears to be 4.9.5.25 .)



There are several choices of downloads on that page. Can you, or
someone else here, tell me how to know which one to download?

And I don't see a "Or skip this step and start Download" link there.



On that page there is a select category box, choose "Corsair Link".
then on the page that opens you want Link 4.9.5.25, that is the latest.




Thanks very much Downloading now.



You're welcome.

Rene

CORSAIR LINK STINKS. (Details below.)


In message , VanguardLH
writes:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Do they provide simple skins to present the information? Else, by
comparison, Speedfan is elegant because it is simple.

If you cared to look they provide plain dark or light skins.

Look WHERE? I did care to look. In fact, I gave the URL to their
product page that you did not so I had to guess that is the tool to
which you referred. I see no skins. They present no skins. Visit the
URL that I gave. Where do YOU see any skins presented?

Yes you seem to have an old page, I should have included the proper one.

You need the version 4.9.5.25 which is the one I have, it is the latest
one on this page.

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/downloads

Select category, Corsair Link, than 4.9.5.25
Then you will find all the settings etc

Ah, so Corsair won't show be the proper (latest version) screenshots.
Instead I would have to *install* the program before I can see what it
looks like. Thanks for the info but no thanks. I don't install
software just to see what it might look like. I do that ahead of time
as part of researching the software. Corsair really needs to update the
product page to show screenshots for their latest version.

I did a Google Images search on "corsair link" and found some users had
posted screenshots showing a different skin than the one Corsair shows
on their site, like:

http://i.imgur.com/T8DNKnW.png

So they have a less busy page. Hopefully the user can turn off the
blaring white-on-bright-red section titles but it's better than the
background showing the inside of a computer case.

I agree, that UI with the computer case isn't to my liking either.

I've already posted some of this once, but it seems to have got lost, so
here goes again. I installed that 4.9.5.25 (the latest on the page), but
when run, I just got a title bar which disappeared. So I uninstalled it
with prejudice, and tried the oldest on the page (4.7.0.77). That
installed, but when run, it told me there was a later one, did I want it
(it obviously 'phoned home to ask, without asking permission); I said
yes, and it got it and ran.

Since then, my machine has been running hot. At one point I fired up
SpeedFan (in monitoring mode only!), and it was over 100 (C)! I've
quickly plugged in the old USB fan tray I'd been using with my XP
machine, and things are more manageable now (below 60C). I have in the
meantime run Toshiba's own test of the cooling system (takes about 23
minutes), and that said all is well (I heard it run the fan up and
down). Since overheating was what killed my XP machine, _and_ the fan on
this one used to cut in quite audibly for even a slight rise, I'm
decidedly unimpressed with Corsair Link: it seems to me that it has
set/changed some control, even though I only intended to use it as a
monitor; any suggestions to fix what it broke welcomed. I'm certainly
going to uninstall it again: the only reason I haven't is in case it
needs to be there to do any fix.

I thought I'd give it one more chance, so clicked on the start menu
shortcut it installed. It now comes up with (ding) a window saying
"Problem with Shortcut\The parameter is incorrect." So I look at the
properties of the shortcut: it's one of those with the Target box greyed
out and blanked - the sort of thing Microsoft do for Internet Explorer
and some Office things. Fortunately it has something in the "Start in:"
box ("C:\Program Files\CorsairLink4\"), so I look there. The .exe -
which is 26,479 KB! - just for a fan monitor?!? - is indeed 4.9.5.25.
When I try to run it directly, it's back to being the
title-bar-only-and-that-briefly behaviour, although it does add a bar to
the taskbar and an icon to the tray. Left or right clicking on the tray
icon makes nothing happen. I can kill (close) it by right-clicking the
taskbar bar. (There was one task in Task bar, which disappeared.)

So - Corsair Link:
o installs "funny" shortcuts.
o is huge.
o won't run for me more than once (as far as me actually seeing the UI,
that is; _something_ runs when I run it).
o has a pretty horrible UI. (_Might_ be possible to change to a plain
one as described in this thread _if_ the UI would actually come up!)
o _seems_ to have done something to my fan control.

(The one time I did actually see the UI, there seemed to be three modes,
one of which _had_ to be chosen - I think one of them was called
something like "performance". There did _not_ seem to be a "monitor
only" option.)

Thoughts? I do have a full image from only the other day, as it happens,
but I'd rather not go to that if I don't have to. (I may also have
System Restore points.)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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