Macrium Reflect Free offline installer

Is an offline installer available and where please? Thank you!

On 11/03/2018 00:43, JBI wrote:
Is an offline installer available and where please? Thank you!

No you have to buy a business version from this link:

https://www.macrium.com/products/business/standalone/workstation

The free version is now restricted to people who can show initiatives to
research products for themselves.

I have noticed that you have been abusing the generosity of people who
want to help in these newsgroups. You have been changing your names
several times. You are watched so show some respect to these newsgroups.

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On 03/10/2018 08:03 PM, Good Guy wrote:
On 11/03/2018 00:43, JBI wrote:
Is an offline installer available and where please?Â* Thank you!

No you have to buy a business version from this link:

https://www.macrium.com/products/business/standalone/workstation

The free version is now restricted to people who can show initiatives to
research products for themselves.

I have noticed that you have been abusing the generosity of people who
want to help in these newsgroups.Â* You have been changing your names
several times.Â* You are watched so show some respect to these newsgroups.

So, tell me, how do I "abuse" it by changing my name? Is that a crime?
And what does it have to do with what I'm asking?

You seem to like provoking controversy for some reason, even when it is
benevolent and peaceful. As a result, since you have now brought things
up at least twice, this time I AM adding you to the filter list.

If you don't like what I'm saying or doing, either filter it or don't
respond at all. This is the last time I will respond to you, name
changed or not!

JBI wrote:

Is an offline installer available and where please? Thank you!

A search on:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is...lect%20install

found an image showing the web installer's screen. It is on the
following web page describing how to install Macrium Reflect.

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-in...crium-reflect/

You use the web installer to download the full installer. Then you
decide whether or not to run the full installer. If not, store it
wherever you want.

On 03/10/2018 08:18 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
JBI wrote:

Is an offline installer available and where please? Thank you!

A search on:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is...lect%20install

found an image showing the web installer's screen. It is on the
following web page describing how to install Macrium Reflect.

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-in...crium-reflect/

You use the web installer to download the full installer. Then you
decide whether or not to run the full installer. If not, store it
wherever you want.


Thank you!

JBI wrote:
On 03/10/2018 08:18 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
JBI wrote:

Is an offline installer available and where please? Thank you!

A search on:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is...lect%20install

found an image showing the web installer's screen. It is on the
following web page describing how to install Macrium Reflect.

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-in...crium-reflect/

You use the web installer to download the full installer. Then you
decide whether or not to run the full installer. If not, store it
wherever you want.


Thank you!

It's a two-stage process.

http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v6/ReflectDLv6.exe === stub installer

gives downloader 6.0.553.0, select a 32 bit or 64 bit version,
plus WinPE5 or WinPE10 to make emergency boot CDs.

v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x86.exe 44,303,520 bytes

SHA1: A11293417C4A48972D104B94B5C2B530C375774A

v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe 46,645,904 bytes

SHA1: 2AFF03BD9AFD677F65647F890026F4D239C70005

You have to be careful of the "install after download" tick box,
which keeps turning itself ON. If you just want to download
the EXE plus a flavor of WINPE for carriage to a second computer,
then you want to untick the install button in the stub.

The actual install is the second stage of the process.

Once the installed program is running, you can then get it to make
you an emergency boot CD.

The Version 7 program, has a running service which wastes CPU
cycles. I suspect it listens to USN Change Journal activity
in the name of being prepared to make differential or
incremental backups later. The older versions of the program,
the running service on them is "quiet". The one above
should be a "quiet" one.

Paul

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
It's a two-stage process.

http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v6/ReflectDLv6.exe
=== stub installer
Thanks for this. Downloaded it, sort of out of curiosity, though I don't
know what the improvements (if they are genuine improvements) are over
the v5 that I've been using.

gives downloader 6.0.553.0, select a 32 bit or 64 bit version,

I know (from experience with 5) that the 64 bit version won't run on 32
bit hardware; I presume the 32 bit version will run on either. Is there
actually any advantage to the 64 bit version (on 64 bit hardware,
obviously)? I presume there must be _some_, as otherwise they wouldn't
make the two versions.

plus WinPE5 or WinPE10 to make emergency boot CDs.

Running the stub now. It says it'll download whatever's best for my
machine, plus give me the option to select more.

It has selected 32 bit, presumably as I'm running 7-32 (I think this is
a 64-bit system - it's an i3 I think). The option of 32 or 64 are radio
buttons, so I don't think _that_ is offering the option for _additional_
download, despite what it said.

As for the PE bit: It's offering a drop-down offering
Reflect Installer and PE Components - defaulting to this
Reflect Installer Only
PE 3 (WAIK) Rescue Components Only
PE 4 (WADK) Rescue Components Only
PE 5 (WADK) Rescue Components Only
PE 10 (WADK) Rescue Components only (Release 1607)

I take it from what you say above that maybe the 10 might be needed for
people with Windows 10, and that the 3 and 4 aren't really worth
bothering with. But it looks as if any but the first option involve two
runs of the stub, whereas the first option (to which it is defaulting)
gets both (but doesn't show which PE). Can you give any insights?

v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x86.exe 44,303,520 bytes

SHA1: A11293417C4A48972D104B94B5C2B530C375774A

v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe 46,645,904 bytes

SHA1: 2AFF03BD9AFD677F65647F890026F4D239C70005

I went for the defaults: 32 bit, and the installer-and-PE. It says it's
downloading 184.9 MB.

You have to be careful of the "install after download" tick box,
which keeps turning itself ON. If you just want to download

You're not kidding! I turned it off initially, then selected the options
box to choose what I was downloading, and it had turned itself back on.

the EXE plus a flavor of WINPE for carriage to a second computer,
Or to make CDs.
then you want to untick the install button in the stub.

The actual install is the second stage of the process.

(I presume you mean you run the downloaded file, and it then installs,
rather than being directly runnable.)

Once the installed program is running, you can then get it to make
you an emergency boot CD.

The Version 7 program, has a running service which wastes CPU
cycles. I suspect it listens to USN Change Journal activity
in the name of being prepared to make differential or
incremental backups later. The older versions of the program,
the running service on them is "quiet". The one above
should be a "quiet" one.

Paul
Thanks for that latter tip/snippet. Since I don't make differential or
incremental (I'd feel uneasy about them for my OS-and-software images,
and I use SyncToy rather than Macrium for my data backups), I won't
bother with 7. (I'll _probably_ not bother with 6, but thought I maybe
ought to have it while it's still available, in case it _does_ have some
advantage over 5.)

Ah, download finished: it briefly said something like "creating .zip
file", then said Done. But hang on: there's no big file in the folder I
specified (I did specify one, the same one I'd put the stub in). Hang on
while I fire up Everything: Oh, it _is_ there, just not one 14x M file:
it's just created a subfolder called Macrium, which has
v6.3.1852_reflect_setup_free_x86.exe (44,303,520 bytes - same as the one
you show, though a different name) and pe3x86.zip (122,729,917 bytes) in
it. (Sorry, I don't have a SHA1 utility installed yet.) I presume the
former (or maybe just what it installs) uses the latter, at least if you
tell it to make CDs, since the CDs (well v5 did anyway) say something
like "loading Windows" when you boot from them.
--
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In message , "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
writes:
[]
Some of the questions I asked are answered if you click the Help button
in the stub installer window, which takes you to
https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/di...acrium+Reflect
(though that is headed Macrium Reflect 7 Knowledgebase, it seems to
cover what you see when you run the 6 stub).
--
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Whoever decided to limit tagline length to 68 characters can kiss my

J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Paul
writes:
[]
It's a two-stage process.

http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v6/ReflectDLv6.exe
=== stub installer
Thanks for this. Downloaded it, sort of out of curiosity, though I don't
know what the improvements (if they are genuine improvements) are over
the v5 that I've been using.
gives downloader 6.0.553.0, select a 32 bit or 64 bit version,

I know (from experience with 5) that the 64 bit version won't run on 32
bit hardware; I presume the 32 bit version will run on either. Is there
actually any advantage to the 64 bit version (on 64 bit hardware,
obviously)? I presume there must be _some_, as otherwise they wouldn't
make the two versions.

plus WinPE5 or WinPE10 to make emergency boot CDs.

Running the stub now. It says it'll download whatever's best for my
machine, plus give me the option to select more.

It has selected 32 bit, presumably as I'm running 7-32 (I think this is
a 64-bit system - it's an i3 I think). The option of 32 or 64 are radio
buttons, so I don't think _that_ is offering the option for _additional_
download, despite what it said.

As for the PE bit: It's offering a drop-down offering
Reflect Installer and PE Components - defaulting to this
Reflect Installer Only
PE 3 (WAIK) Rescue Components Only
PE 4 (WADK) Rescue Components Only
PE 5 (WADK) Rescue Components Only
PE 10 (WADK) Rescue Components only (Release 1607)

I take it from what you say above that maybe the 10 might be needed for
people with Windows 10, and that the 3 and 4 aren't really worth
bothering with. But it looks as if any but the first option involve two
runs of the stub, whereas the first option (to which it is defaulting)
gets both (but doesn't show which PE). Can you give any insights?
v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x86.exe 44,303,520 bytes

SHA1: A11293417C4A48972D104B94B5C2B530C375774A

v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe 46,645,904 bytes

SHA1: 2AFF03BD9AFD677F65647F890026F4D239C70005

I went for the defaults: 32 bit, and the installer-and-PE. It says it's
downloading 184.9 MB.
You have to be careful of the "install after download" tick box,
which keeps turning itself ON. If you just want to download

You're not kidding! I turned it off initially, then selected the options
box to choose what I was downloading, and it had turned itself back on.

the EXE plus a flavor of WINPE for carriage to a second computer,
Or to make CDs.
then you want to untick the install button in the stub.

The actual install is the second stage of the process.

(I presume you mean you run the downloaded file, and it then installs,
rather than being directly runnable.)
Once the installed program is running, you can then get it to make
you an emergency boot CD.

The Version 7 program, has a running service which wastes CPU
cycles. I suspect it listens to USN Change Journal activity
in the name of being prepared to make differential or
incremental backups later. The older versions of the program,
the running service on them is "quiet". The one above
should be a "quiet" one.

Paul
Thanks for that latter tip/snippet. Since I don't make differential or
incremental (I'd feel uneasy about them for my OS-and-software images,
and I use SyncToy rather than Macrium for my data backups), I won't
bother with 7. (I'll _probably_ not bother with 6, but thought I maybe
ought to have it while it's still available, in case it _does_ have some
advantage over 5.)

Ah, download finished: it briefly said something like "creating .zip
file", then said Done. But hang on: there's no big file in the folder I
specified (I did specify one, the same one I'd put the stub in). Hang on
while I fire up Everything: Oh, it _is_ there, just not one 14x M file:
it's just created a subfolder called Macrium, which has
v6.3.1852_reflect_setup_free_x86.exe (44,303,520 bytes - same as the one
you show, though a different name) and pe3x86.zip (122,729,917 bytes) in
it. (Sorry, I don't have a SHA1 utility installed yet.) I presume the
former (or maybe just what it installs) uses the latter, at least if you
tell it to make CDs, since the CDs (well v5 did anyway) say something
like "loading Windows" when you boot from them.

I recommend WinPE5 or WinPE10, because each of those has USB3
chip support.

I don't really know if the WinPE10 has any "disadvantages" or not.
The differences should be driver related.

For one thing, I've noticed that since using WinPE5 or WinPE10, that
file sharing always seems to work when I boot the emergency CD. I
have at least one older emergency CD, where the NIC doesn't work,
so my backup drive is limited to being local.

I didn't really think through the x86 versus x64 issue all that much.

Macrium computes checksums for some internal steps, and a good developer
might get a speed advantage for something in that category.

Or perhaps the compression might run faster. Again, I don't have any
anecdotes to hand, that address how much difference a x64 compressor
would give. Some of the run length compressors (RLE), they get
zero benefit from x64, because the code is basically just an integer
thing with flow control. And the "width" of the register used
makes no difference at all. Whereas, the high-power compressors with
the 600MB dictionary per CPU core, those are pumping data like crazy,
and anything which "pumps up the bandwidth" helps a little bit.
The CPU cache size, compared to a high end compressor memory
foot print, the CPU cache has limited benefit (because the
entire dictionary doesn't fit). Some of the less effective
compressors can almost fit right into the CPU cache.

Paul

FredW wrote:
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 08:46:23 -0400, Paul wrote:
JBI wrote:
On 03/10/2018 08:18 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
JBI wrote:

Is an offline installer available and where please? Thank you!
A search on:

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=is...lect%20install

found an image showing the web installer's screen. It is on the
following web page describing how to install Macrium Reflect.

http://www.intowindows.com/how-to-in...crium-reflect/

You use the web installer to download the full installer. Then you
decide whether or not to run the full installer. If not, store it
wherever you want.

Thank you!
It's a two-stage process.

http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v6/ReflectDLv6.exe === stub installer

gives downloader 6.0.553.0, select a 32 bit or 64 bit version,
plus WinPE5 or WinPE10 to make emergency boot CDs.

v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x86.exe 44,303,520 bytes

v6.3.1849_reflect_setup_free_x64.exe 46,645,904 bytes


???
The Macrium Reflect V6 downloader downloads the latest V6,
which is 6.3.1852 - 18th January 2018:
http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v...ls6.3.1852.htm


The objective is to give people a copy of a 6.3 stream
version.

When I tested version 7, I was seeing too much CPU usage
from the Macrium service that is running. It uses CPU, even if
you weren't doing backups at the time.

By presenting that link, I'm controlling to a small
extent, what version they get.

I can't answer for how Macrium sets up their server,
and whether a "ReflectDLv6.exe" file returns Version 7
materials. Macrium can replace anything on their end,
when I give dated information like this.

I don't sit around testing server content there on
a daily basis. So obviously, a user should use common
sense about whether links like this are going to work
or not.

Take yesterday. I did around 17GB of downloads to
answer a question. Do you think I'm going to
repeat that 17GB download, every time that question
comes up ? No. I'll present the links I have, and
let people decide for themselves.

I only record these sorts of details, based on when
I needed the files myself. And the above link was
actually some info I found elsewhere, when I needed
to track down a version 6 download. If you went to the
web site, and used the GUI on the ReflectFree page,
they're going to offer you a Version 7 stub installer.
But someone noticed that the V6 Stub was still available,
and that it returns V6 files (of some version).

When I present size information, sometimes it helps
the dude who is still on dialup. And then he won't
try to download that one (until he gets to Starbucks
and their Wifi).

Paul

On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 23:03:46 -0400, Paul wrote:

When I tested version 7, I was seeing too much CPU usage
from the Macrium service that is running. It uses CPU, even if
you weren't doing backups at the time.

Is there any disadvantage to setting the service to Manual or Disabled?
I use MR just for clones, so a monitoring service is of no use to me.

Also, does v7 have any benefits over v6?
--
Peter.
The gods will stay away
whilst religions hold sway

PeterC wrote:
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 23:03:46 -0400, Paul wrote:

When I tested version 7, I was seeing too much CPU usage
from the Macrium service that is running. It uses CPU, even if
you weren't doing backups at the time.

Is there any disadvantage to setting the service to Manual or Disabled?
I use MR just for clones, so a monitoring service is of no use to me.

Also, does v7 have any benefits over v6?

Well, I'm funny that way. If you write software
that ****es me off, I uninstall it in the blink
of an eye. And that's what happened with V7.
I took one look at Task Manager, and didn't even
have a chance to look for "Features".

A certain printer driver and a webcam driver, got
the same kind of express service here. Burn up my
CPU for nothing, out the door you go :-)

As it is, I occasionally have to switch off Windows Defender
in Windows 10, because it'll cut the performance of
some application in half. If I want to run hashdeep
on a partition, I turn off WD (realtime) first.

Paul

On 03/12/2018 5:15 AM, Paul wrote:
PeterC wrote:
On Sun, 11 Mar 2018 23:03:46 -0400, Paul wrote:

When I tested version 7, I was seeing too much CPU usage
from the Macrium service that is running. It uses CPU, even if
you weren't doing backups at the time.

Is there any disadvantage to setting the service to Manual or Disabled?
I use MR just for clones, so a monitoring service is of no use to me.

Also, does v7 have any benefits over v6?

Well, I'm funny that way. If you write software
that ****es me off, I uninstall it in the blink
of an eye. And that's what happened with V7.
I took one look at Task Manager, and didn't even
have a chance to look for "Features".

A certain printer driver and a webcam driver, got
the same kind of express service here. Burn up my
CPU for nothing, out the door you go :-)

As it is, I occasionally have to switch off Windows Defender
in Windows 10, because it'll cut the performance of
some application in half. If I want to run hashdeep
on a partition, I turn off WD (realtime) first.

Â*Â* Paul

That's odd Paul, I am running Macrium reflect Version 7.1.2917 sitting
open on the desktop at Idle and it is using 0% on all 3 items in task
manager. The only thing using CPU cycles is Task manager, Less than 1%.

Rene

In message , FredW
writes:
[]
Also, does v7 have any benefits over v6?

New in Version 7
Thanks for these.
https://knowledgebase.macrium.com/di...w+in+Version+7

Seems to be mainly 3 things:
1. Improvement that makes differential/incremental images faster (not
available for XP). No benefit if you don't make differential/incremental
images.
2. (I think) ability to run a certain kind of virtual machine directly
from a Macrium image.
3. Improvement (and bugfix for W10Ann users) to the task scheduler.

Release notes V7:
http://updates.macrium.com/reflect/v...ls7.1.2917.htm

At the bottom (Initial Release) you can see the improvements
Same three, I think.

As I am on Windows 7 and version 6 did all I wanted , I decided to stay
with Version 6 (proven in practice).

Ditto (I don't do scheduled or incremental/differential backups). (I'll
probably stay with 5!)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

WANTED, Dead AND Alive: Schrodinger's Cat

In message , Rene Lamontagne
writes:
[]
That's odd Paul, I am running Macrium reflect Version 7.1.2917 sitting
open on the desktop at Idle and it is using 0% on all 3 items in task
manager. The only thing using CPU cycles is Task manager, Less than 1%.

Rene


Presumably if it's listed at all in task manager (let alone three
times!), it must be using _some_ cycles, even if negligible.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

WANTED, Dead AND Alive: Schrodinger's Cat