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  #16  
Old October 12th 04, 06:38 PM
Don Burnette
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That's strange. I thought help was exactly what these forums are for.

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David Candy wrote:
Stop wasting bandwidth with stupid questions. Ask help.

David Candy wrote:
Turn off the language bar.

how?







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  #17  
Old October 12th 04, 06:42 PM
Don Burnette
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It amazes me that a someone as yourself would be even approached by MS to
participate in the MVP program.

You jump all over someone who comes here and asks a question, which is WHAT
these forums are intended for. By your logic, you would have everyone do so
through help rather than even coming to these forums. There would be no need
for these forums.
If someone has found their way here, then they have every right to ask for
help, and do not deserve responses such as yours. Pathetic.


--
Don Burnette




David Candy wrote:
I was awarded the MVP from the Word Product Development Group in
1997. I then changed to a friends name and posted till I (him) was
awarded a Windows MVP. As MS cancelled the program then I posted for
over two years in a false name before I got the MVP in that name.

As the MVP award is changed to being only a marketing tool, now I
sabotage all attempts to award it to me as it is now worthless.

This is the first year in a while MS hasn't spammed me.

But still you are saying a complete abusive flip has the right to
waste other's time here. This really amazes me that abusive,
thieving, scum have some right to be that way.
"gpalmer711"
wrote in :
I don't remember anyone saying that this was a problem, the guy just
said that it was annoying to him. So he asked for assistance in
removing it. You find this kind of post annoying and have voiced you
opinion, where is the difference? I can see only one, he was polite,
you were not. You have gone out of your way to be insulting to
people. If you think that what I or anyone has posted on this
newsgroup is incorrect or pointless, then fine point it out to them,
to stoop to the level that you have is just sad.
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Why do you expect I'm going to treat a moron abusing this newsgroup
with respect. Explain to me the problem? How is it a problem? Who
stares at a welcome screen? And even if your mates do do that what
difference does it make if there is an EN showing? How does the EN
prevent tasks from being performed?

Perhaps you visit your 5 daughters too often.


Unfortunately the http://www.mvps.org/links.html lists present AND
*past* awardees of the MVP title. So someone using an e-mail
address at mvps.org does NOT equate to being a *current* MVP
awardee. The award lasts only a year. I'm sure all alumni groups
have their embarrasments. In a Google Groups search, I haven't found
a message from him that included "MVP" in a signature, so he
probably hasn't had that award for awhile. Looks like he got the
mvps.org e-mail address around 25-12-02. A Google search on David's
posts seems to indicate that he generally provides help but I have
noticed some of his overly corrosive ones, too. Just chalk it up to
him having a bad day.

It is unfortunate that users have to go hunting around at
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/MVP/MVP.mspx to see who are the
*current* awardee(s) in each category rather than Microsoft
providing a sorted list of awardee names. If the current awardee
lists their category then it is easy to look up; otherwise, trying
to qualify the status of a poster as a *current* MVP is a PITA.

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  #18  
Old October 12th 04, 06:43 PM
Don Burnette
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The only abuse I see here is done by you.
You sound like a sad, pathetic, bitter, individual.


PLONK


--
Don Burnette


David Candy wrote:
No I just don't like abusive people.

And

quote
Does the EN prevent tasks from being performed?
/quote

You really should get a sense of proportion between working with a
computer (debugging) and being a complete flip (two letters on a
welcome screen). This isn't microsoft technical support.
"David Candy"
wrote in :
It is totally inappropriate. Where is the problem? There is no
problem.

Plus you have to do a bit more than turn off the language bar, it is
Advanced Text Services (of which the language bar is the UI for).

But I suppose if an idiot wants to give misleading advice to another
idiot. Least I gave accurate if useless advice.

quote
It's related to the language toolbar.
/quote

People with obsessive compulsive disorder shouldn't post here with
drivel. He needs to speak to his doctor about his EN not here.

This is hardly a stupid question, the guy is unsure on how to do
something and has posted a question in a support forum. If you are
not interested in answering the question the don't but in my
opinion you are wasting the bandwidth with your negative comments.

Andy to switch off the language bar to the following.

Start Control Panel Regional and Language Options Languages
Tab Details Button Settings Tab Language Bar Button Untick
"Show the Language Bar on the desktop". You should also make sure
that you remove any languages that you do not use as these use
valuble system resources.

--
Greg Palmer
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User


After installing Visual Studio, how to you switch back to the Windows
default debugger (Dr. Watson) instead of using the Visual Studio
debugger? Well, this must be a stupid question, too, since nothing
is actually *broke* and, according to you, there wouldn't be a
problem since the question regards an annoyance or preference. But
how many would know to go edit the AeDebug registry key and to what
value to set it? Where is the problem? According to your analysis,
there would be no problem since the question has to do with a
*preference*. Being curt and telling the OP to use the included
Help and Support included with Windows wouldv'e been sufficient, but
calling the OP stupid for asking what is a newbie question doesn't
reflect negatively on the OP but instead on YOU!

As far as gpalmer giving incorrect advice, why was it incorrect? The
navigation is correct and it matches what "Help and Support" says and
which was what YOU recommended to the OP. Since YOU think this
information from the included help (and repeated by gpalmer) is
incorrect then your suggestion to use the included help is what was
misleading. Apparently you believe some other article within help is
more relevant but were unwilling to provide the search string to
focus in on whatever topic in the help you thought was correct or
more appropriate.

We'll just assume you are having a bad day, forgot to take your
mood-stabilizing medication, your blood sugar got too low, or were
going through nicotine withdrawl and really shouldn't have responded.

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  #19  
Old October 12th 04, 06:51 PM
Don Burnette
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Vanguardx wrote:
"David Candy"
wrote in :
I was awarded the MVP from the Word Product Development Group in
1997. I then changed to a friends name and posted till I (him) was
awarded a Windows MVP. As MS cancelled the program then I posted for
over two years in a false name before I got the MVP in that name.

As the MVP award is changed to being only a marketing tool, now I
sabotage all attempts to award it to me as it is now worthless.

This is the first year in a while MS hasn't spammed me.

But still you are saying a complete abusive flip has the right to
waste other's time here. This really amazes me that abusive,
thieving, scum have some right to be that way.


Perhaps you have a history with Andy that the rest of us are unaware.
A Google search by his moniker doesn't show any posts since about
1995.
When reading the chart regarding what is abusive, please don't read it
from a mirror which would reverse the chart. I saw nothing abusive in
the OP's post, only in your posts. It reminded me of trying to talk
with Alan Connor, a known kook (well, known to me after trying to
communicate with him; see
http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml), who becomes
severely abusive if you ask him about his product or question his
viewpoint. I don't see cause why the OP couldn't post their
preference to eliminate something in a feature of Windows (which I
don't use, by the way). After all, the OP did post in the *.newusers
group.
Are you saying that Microsoft thrusts the MVP award upon anyone simply
based on their participation in the microsoft.* newsgroups without the
consent of the awardee? If you want no association with the Microsoft
MVP program then why do you infer your participation or membership,
past or present, by the use of an mvps.org e-mail address? Have you
informed mvps.org of your position regarding the MVP program so they
can delete your e-mail account with them and remove from their site
the link to your site?




LOL, I would say the truth is being stretched a bit much here by Mr.
Candy...

Obviously, a very bitter man who likes to prey on new folks coming here for
help. Best thing to do is killfile folks like him. Thankfully, they are few
and far between.
It's just a shame that some folks who find their way to these forums for the
first time, have to experience the likes of him... Not a good representation
at all for what these newsgroups are intended...





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  #20  
Old October 12th 04, 06:54 PM
Vanguardx
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"David Candy"
wrote in :
No I just don't like abusive people.

And

quote
Does the EN prevent tasks from being performed?
/quote

You really should get a sense of proportion between working with a
computer (debugging) and being a complete flip (two letters on a
welcome screen). This isn't microsoft technical support.


Since the OP has not posted here before (the 1995 posts found by Google
Groups look to be someone else), it is possible the user was directed to
the newsgroup and thought that Microsoft's tech support actually visits
here. That would not be a unique misconception of just this one poster.
However, there is also no evidence by the OP that they were unaware that
this a peer community of volunteers to assist other users. Since the OP
posted using a non-Microsoft news server and *not* through the
webnews-for-dummies CDO interface (looks like he posted using NTL
World's own news servers) then it is even more likely that the OP knew
that Microsoft doesn't provide free tech support here.

If users want to post a question regarding how to change configuration
or preferences within Windows (and which aren't critical "problems")
then in what newsgroup would you suggest they post? Seems like
*.newusers was an appropriate newsgroup, to me, as were the other three
groups (I'm assuming NTL World's news server's
microsoft.public.windowsxp.bas is aliased to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics).

Other than severely exaggerating the irritation of having to read a post
that contained misspelling and punctuation errors, just what did you
find abusive by the post? No, just don't simply say it was abusive.
WHY was it abusive? I'm having a hard time wrapping myself around your
viewpoint. A user that is too lazy to bother to use the included help
does not itself engender abusiveness to a post. That a stupid post (in
the opinion of a particular reader) wastes bandwidth and disk space is
also not abusive. There are a hell of a lot more stupid questions
posted than this one, like those too lazy to search before repeatedly
asking why OE has blocked attachments. Have you gone attacking all
those lazy users, too? Rather than being lazy, it is also possible that
the user is so new a user that they don't even realize what help is
already included with a product.


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  #21  
Old October 12th 04, 07:43 PM
David Candy
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And what exactly are they intended for. I've been here for almost 9 =
years (Since February 1996). I've been using MS online services for 10 =
years (April/May/June 1994), and online services since January 1990.

This is a peer to peer support group. It IS NOT free technical support. =
For questions that are abusive they should pay microsoft. Arguably the =
flip is not a peer. He only has a really stupid question (don't like it =
then don't look at it). That is abusive. I find it wierd that newcomers =
here like yourself support the abuse of this group.

--=20
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"Don Burnette" wrote in message =
...
Vanguardx wrote:
"David Candy"
wrote in :
I was awarded the MVP from the Word Product Development Group in
1997. I then changed to a friends name and posted till I (him) was
awarded a Windows MVP. As MS cancelled the program then I posted for
over two years in a false name before I got the MVP in that name.

As the MVP award is changed to being only a marketing tool, now I
sabotage all attempts to award it to me as it is now worthless.

This is the first year in a while MS hasn't spammed me.

But still you are saying a complete abusive flip has the right to
waste other's time here. This really amazes me that abusive,
thieving, scum have some right to be that way.


Perhaps you have a history with Andy that the rest of us are unaware.
A Google search by his moniker doesn't show any posts since about
1995.
When reading the chart regarding what is abusive, please don't read =

it
from a mirror which would reverse the chart. I saw nothing abusive =

in
the OP's post, only in your posts. It reminded me of trying to talk
with Alan Connor, a known kook (well, known to me after trying to
communicate with him; see
http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml), who becomes
severely abusive if you ask him about his product or question his
viewpoint. I don't see cause why the OP couldn't post their
preference to eliminate something in a feature of Windows (which I
don't use, by the way). After all, the OP did post in the *.newusers
group.
Are you saying that Microsoft thrusts the MVP award upon anyone =

simply
based on their participation in the microsoft.* newsgroups without =

the
consent of the awardee? If you want no association with the =

Microsoft
MVP program then why do you infer your participation or membership,
past or present, by the use of an mvps.org e-mail address? Have you
informed mvps.org of your position regarding the MVP program so they
can delete your e-mail account with them and remove from their site
the link to your site?

=20
=20
=20
LOL, I would say the truth is being stretched a bit much here by Mr.=20
Candy...
=20
Obviously, a very bitter man who likes to prey on new folks coming =

here for=20
help. Best thing to do is killfile folks like him. Thankfully, they =

are few=20
and far between.
It's just a shame that some folks who find their way to these forums =

for the=20
first time, have to experience the likes of him... Not a good =

representation=20
at all for what these newsgroups are intended...
=20
=20
=20
=20
=20
--=20
Don Burnette
=20
=20

  #22  
Old October 12th 04, 07:44 PM
David Candy
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He has nothing he needs help with.

--=20
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"Don Burnette" wrote in message =
...
It amazes me that a someone as yourself would be even approached by MS =

to=20
participate in the MVP program.
=20
You jump all over someone who comes here and asks a question, which is =

WHAT=20
these forums are intended for. By your logic, you would have everyone =

do so=20
through help rather than even coming to these forums. There would be =

no need=20
for these forums.
If someone has found their way here, then they have every right to ask =

for=20
help, and do not deserve responses such as yours. Pathetic.
=20
=20
--=20
Don Burnette
=20
=20
=20
=20
David Candy wrote:
I was awarded the MVP from the Word Product Development Group in
1997. I then changed to a friends name and posted till I (him) was
awarded a Windows MVP. As MS cancelled the program then I posted for
over two years in a false name before I got the MVP in that name.

As the MVP award is changed to being only a marketing tool, now I
sabotage all attempts to award it to me as it is now worthless.

This is the first year in a while MS hasn't spammed me.

But still you are saying a complete abusive flip has the right to
waste other's time here. This really amazes me that abusive,
thieving, scum have some right to be that way.
"gpalmer711"
wrote in :
I don't remember anyone saying that this was a problem, the guy =

just
said that it was annoying to him. So he asked for assistance in
removing it. You find this kind of post annoying and have voiced =

you
opinion, where is the difference? I can see only one, he was =

polite,
you were not. You have gone out of your way to be insulting to
people. If you think that what I or anyone has posted on this
newsgroup is incorrect or pointless, then fine point it out to =

them,
to stoop to the level that you have is just sad.
"David Candy" wrote in message
...
Why do you expect I'm going to treat a moron abusing this newsgroup
with respect. Explain to me the problem? How is it a problem? Who
stares at a welcome screen? And even if your mates do do that what
difference does it make if there is an EN showing? How does the EN
prevent tasks from being performed?

Perhaps you visit your 5 daughters too often.

Unfortunately the http://www.mvps.org/links.html lists present AND
*past* awardees of the MVP title. So someone using an e-mail
address at mvps.org does NOT equate to being a *current* MVP
awardee. The award lasts only a year. I'm sure all alumni groups
have their embarrasments. In a Google Groups search, I haven't found
a message from him that included "MVP" in a signature, so he
probably hasn't had that award for awhile. Looks like he got the
mvps.org e-mail address around 25-12-02. A Google search on David's
posts seems to indicate that he generally provides help but I have
noticed some of his overly corrosive ones, too. Just chalk it up to
him having a bad day.

It is unfortunate that users have to go hunting around at
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/MVP/MVP.mspx to see who are the
*current* awardee(s) in each category rather than Microsoft
providing a sorted list of awardee names. If the current awardee
lists their category then it is easy to look up; otherwise, trying
to qualify the status of a poster as a *current* MVP is a PITA.

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  #23  
Old October 12th 04, 07:51 PM
David Candy
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Because it's NOT A PROBLEM. As I said only people with OCD would care. =
It's not even customisation. It's two letters.

The flip is the sort of person to go to a hospital with a broken finger =
just after a bus has a headon.

So how much time do you spend watching the Welcome Screen. It's just a =
continuing example of scum coming here with their little selfish =
thieving ways and trying to waste bandwidth with useless and pointless =
questions.

Flips aren't welcomed here.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.uscricket.com
"Vanguardx" see_signature wrote in message =
...
"David Candy"
wrote in :
No I just don't like abusive people.

And

quote
Does the EN prevent tasks from being performed?
/quote

You really should get a sense of proportion between working with a
computer (debugging) and being a complete flip (two letters on a
welcome screen). This isn't microsoft technical support.

=20
Since the OP has not posted here before (the 1995 posts found by =

Google=20
Groups look to be someone else), it is possible the user was directed =

to=20
the newsgroup and thought that Microsoft's tech support actually =

visits=20
here. That would not be a unique misconception of just this one =

poster.=20
However, there is also no evidence by the OP that they were unaware =

that=20
this a peer community of volunteers to assist other users. Since the =

OP=20
posted using a non-Microsoft news server and *not* through the=20
webnews-for-dummies CDO interface (looks like he posted using NTL=20
World's own news servers) then it is even more likely that the OP knew =


that Microsoft doesn't provide free tech support here.
=20
If users want to post a question regarding how to change configuration =


or preferences within Windows (and which aren't critical "problems")=20
then in what newsgroup would you suggest they post? Seems like=20
*.newusers was an appropriate newsgroup, to me, as were the other =

three=20
groups (I'm assuming NTL World's news server's=20
microsoft.public.windowsxp.bas is aliased to=20
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics).
=20
Other than severely exaggerating the irritation of having to read a =

post=20
that contained misspelling and punctuation errors, just what did you=20
find abusive by the post? No, just don't simply say it was abusive.=20
WHY was it abusive? I'm having a hard time wrapping myself around =

your=20
viewpoint. A user that is too lazy to bother to use the included help =


does not itself engender abusiveness to a post. That a stupid post =

(in=20
the opinion of a particular reader) wastes bandwidth and disk space is =


also not abusive. There are a hell of a lot more stupid questions=20
posted than this one, like those too lazy to search before repeatedly=20
asking why OE has blocked attachments. Have you gone attacking all=20
those lazy users, too? Rather than being lazy, it is also possible =

that=20
the user is so new a user that they don't even realize what help is=20
already included with a product.
=20
=20
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  #24  
Old October 12th 04, 10:10 PM
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In ,
Vanguardx see_signature typed:

Unfortunately the http://www.mvps.org/links.html lists present
AND
*past* awardees of the MVP title.



You can find the complete and current list of MVPs at
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...com/6mhf6--Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/UserPlease reply to the newsgroup

  #25  
Old October 12th 04, 10:48 PM
Ken Blake
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In ,
Ken Blake typed:

You can find the complete and current list of MVPs at
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...com/6mhf6--Ken
Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/UserPlease reply to the
newsgroup



Wow, did those links get messed up (at least here)! Sorry, they
are

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/def...ward&style=TOC


or

http://tinyurl.com/6mhf6


--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup


  #26  
Old October 13th 04, 01:19 AM
Enbee
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That's funny ... because I thought that everyone was welcome here.
Andy .... if you do come back to read this thread .... please don't judge
this place by one person, and don't feel intimidated to ask for help when you
need it. There are many people here who will offer a helping hand... From
what I've read of this thread, it seems as though the majority feels the same
way. Basically it comes down to "treating people the way you'd like to be
treated". Common courtesy goes a long way.

"David Candy" wrote:

Because it's NOT A PROBLEM. As I said only people with OCD would care. It's not even customisation. It's two letters.

The flip is the sort of person to go to a hospital with a broken finger just after a bus has a headon.

So how much time do you spend watching the Welcome Screen. It's just a continuing example of scum coming here with their little selfish thieving ways and trying to waste bandwidth with useless and pointless questions.

Flips aren't welcomed here.

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"Vanguardx" see_signature wrote in message ...
"David Candy"
wrote in :
No I just don't like abusive people.

And

quote
Does the EN prevent tasks from being performed?
/quote

You really should get a sense of proportion between working with a
computer (debugging) and being a complete flip (two letters on a
welcome screen). This isn't microsoft technical support.


Since the OP has not posted here before (the 1995 posts found by Google
Groups look to be someone else), it is possible the user was directed to
the newsgroup and thought that Microsoft's tech support actually visits
here. That would not be a unique misconception of just this one poster.
However, there is also no evidence by the OP that they were unaware that
this a peer community of volunteers to assist other users. Since the OP
posted using a non-Microsoft news server and *not* through the
webnews-for-dummies CDO interface (looks like he posted using NTL
World's own news servers) then it is even more likely that the OP knew
that Microsoft doesn't provide free tech support here.

If users want to post a question regarding how to change configuration
or preferences within Windows (and which aren't critical "problems")
then in what newsgroup would you suggest they post? Seems like
*.newusers was an appropriate newsgroup, to me, as were the other three
groups (I'm assuming NTL World's news server's
microsoft.public.windowsxp.bas is aliased to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics).

Other than severely exaggerating the irritation of having to read a post
that contained misspelling and punctuation errors, just what did you
find abusive by the post? No, just don't simply say it was abusive.
WHY was it abusive? I'm having a hard time wrapping myself around your
viewpoint. A user that is too lazy to bother to use the included help
does not itself engender abusiveness to a post. That a stupid post (in
the opinion of a particular reader) wastes bandwidth and disk space is
also not abusive. There are a hell of a lot more stupid questions
posted than this one, like those too lazy to search before repeatedly
asking why OE has blocked attachments. Have you gone attacking all
those lazy users, too? Rather than being lazy, it is also possible that
the user is so new a user that they don't even realize what help is
already included with a product.


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  #27  
Old October 13th 04, 04:05 AM
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Criminals like you and Thief aren't.=20
Common courtesy goes a long way.

This is something scum like you and Thief should ponder.

Answer this.

On my car there are letters stamped on the manifold. How do I remove =
them.
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"Enbee" wrote in message =
...
That's funny ... because I thought that everyone was welcome here.
Andy .... if you do come back to read this thread .... please don't =

judge=20
this place by one person, and don't feel intimidated to ask for help =

when you=20
need it. There are many people here who will offer a helping hand... =

From=20
what I've read of this thread, it seems as though the majority feels =

the same=20
way. Basically it comes down to "treating people the way you'd like =

to be=20
treated". Common courtesy goes a long way.=20
=20
"David Candy" wrote:
=20
Because it's NOT A PROBLEM. As I said only people with OCD would =

care. It's not even customisation. It's two letters.
=20
The flip is the sort of person to go to a hospital with a broken =

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"David Candy"
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No I just don't like abusive people.

And

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Does the EN prevent tasks from being performed?
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You really should get a sense of proportion between working with a
computer (debugging) and being a complete flip (two letters on a
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Old October 13th 04, 04:50 AM
Don Burnette
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Not a problem for who - you???

It obviously meant something to the original poster, and who are you, to say
he is scum and selfish? You don't even know the guy for crying out loud!.
And, who the heck are you to say who is welcome and who is not?
Personally, you way more strike me as the type that should not be welcome
than the original poster.

Now that is truly pathetic.


Don Burnette



David Candy wrote:
Because it's NOT A PROBLEM. As I said only people with OCD would
care. It's not even customisation. It's two letters.

The flip is the sort of person to go to a hospital with a broken
finger just after a bus has a headon.

So how much time do you spend watching the Welcome Screen. It's just
a continuing example of scum coming here with their little selfish
thieving ways and trying to waste bandwidth with useless and
pointless questions.

Flips aren't welcomed here.

"David Candy"
wrote in :
No I just don't like abusive people.

And

quote
Does the EN prevent tasks from being performed?
/quote

You really should get a sense of proportion between working with a
computer (debugging) and being a complete flip (two letters on a
welcome screen). This isn't microsoft technical support.


Since the OP has not posted here before (the 1995 posts found by
Google Groups look to be someone else), it is possible the user was
directed to the newsgroup and thought that Microsoft's tech support
actually visits here. That would not be a unique misconception of
just this one poster. However, there is also no evidence by the OP
that they were unaware that this a peer community of volunteers to
assist other users. Since the OP posted using a non-Microsoft news
server and *not* through the webnews-for-dummies CDO interface
(looks like he posted using NTL World's own news servers) then it is
even more likely that the OP knew that Microsoft doesn't provide
free tech support here.

If users want to post a question regarding how to change
configuration or preferences within Windows (and which aren't
critical "problems") then in what newsgroup would you suggest they
post? Seems like *.newusers was an appropriate newsgroup, to me, as
were the other three groups (I'm assuming NTL World's news server's
microsoft.public.windowsxp.bas is aliased to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.basics).

Other than severely exaggerating the irritation of having to read a
post that contained misspelling and punctuation errors, just what
did you find abusive by the post? No, just don't simply say it was
abusive. WHY was it abusive? I'm having a hard time wrapping myself
around your viewpoint. A user that is too lazy to bother to use the
included help does not itself engender abusiveness to a post. That
a stupid post (in the opinion of a particular reader) wastes
bandwidth and disk space is also not abusive. There are a hell of a
lot more stupid questions posted than this one, like those too lazy
to search before repeatedly asking why OE has blocked attachments.
Have you gone attacking all those lazy users, too? Rather than
being lazy, it is also possible that the user is so new a user that
they don't even realize what help is already included with a product.


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Old October 13th 04, 04:55 AM
Don Burnette
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I am far from a newcommer, I have been following and learning from the
wondeful folks that help people here for some time.

I do not post that much, but I do occasionally if I have some time and if I
think I might can help someone. I wish I had more time to learn and do it,
as I truly enjoy " giving back to the community".

Just how do you differentiate " peer to peer support", from " free technical
support"?
Seems to be a mighty gray area there. By that logic, you could say anyone
coming here for help, is searching for free tech support.

As I mentioned before, it appears to me, you are the one abusing, at least
in this instance.


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David Candy wrote:
And what exactly are they intended for. I've been here for almost 9
years (Since February 1996). I've been using MS online services for
10 years (April/May/June 1994), and online services since January
1990.

This is a peer to peer support group. It IS NOT free technical
support. For questions that are abusive they should pay microsoft.
Arguably the flip is not a peer. He only has a really stupid question
(don't like it then don't look at it). That is abusive. I find it
wierd that newcomers here like yourself support the abuse of this
group.

Vanguardx wrote:
"David Candy"
wrote in :
I was awarded the MVP from the Word Product Development Group in
1997. I then changed to a friends name and posted till I (him) was
awarded a Windows MVP. As MS cancelled the program then I posted
for over two years in a false name before I got the MVP in that
name.

As the MVP award is changed to being only a marketing tool, now I
sabotage all attempts to award it to me as it is now worthless.

This is the first year in a while MS hasn't spammed me.

But still you are saying a complete abusive flip has the right to
waste other's time here. This really amazes me that abusive,
thieving, scum have some right to be that way.

Perhaps you have a history with Andy that the rest of us are
unaware. A Google search by his moniker doesn't show any posts
since about 1995.
When reading the chart regarding what is abusive, please don't read
it from a mirror which would reverse the chart. I saw nothing
abusive in the OP's post, only in your posts. It reminded me of
trying to talk with Alan Connor, a known kook (well, known to me
after trying to communicate with him; see
http://angel.1jh.com/nanae/kooks/alanconnor.shtml), who becomes
severely abusive if you ask him about his product or question his
viewpoint. I don't see cause why the OP couldn't post their
preference to eliminate something in a feature of Windows (which I
don't use, by the way). After all, the OP did post in the *.newusers
group.
Are you saying that Microsoft thrusts the MVP award upon anyone
simply based on their participation in the microsoft.* newsgroups
without the consent of the awardee? If you want no association
with the Microsoft MVP program then why do you infer your
participation or membership, past or present, by the use of an
mvps.org e-mail address? Have you informed mvps.org of your
position regarding the MVP program so they can delete your e-mail
account with them and remove from their site the link to your site?




LOL, I would say the truth is being stretched a bit much here by Mr.
Candy...

Obviously, a very bitter man who likes to prey on new folks coming
here for help. Best thing to do is killfile folks like him.
Thankfully, they are few and far between.
It's just a shame that some folks who find their way to these forums
for the first time, have to experience the likes of him... Not a
good representation at all for what these newsgroups are intended...





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  #30  
Old October 13th 04, 05:17 AM
bdog
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"David Candy" wrote in
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Criminals like you and Thief aren't.
Common courtesy goes a long way.

This is something scum like you and Thief should ponder.

Answer this.

On my car there are letters stamped on the manifold. How do I remove
them.


Get the engine very hot and suck them off with your lips.
 




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