Why doesn't Apple just let you manage your iOS file system natively on Windows?

Here's my Android file system as seen by Windows which I manage from
Windows without adding *any* software whatsoever to Android or Windows.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2102080android_trash01.jpg

Why doesn't Apple just let you manage your iOS file system natively on
Windows?

"Arlen Holder" wrote in message news

Here's my Android file system as seen by Windows which I manage from
Windows without adding *any* software whatsoever to Android or Windows.
http://www.bild.me/bild.php?file=2102080android_trash01.jpg

Why doesn't Apple just let you manage your iOS file system natively on
Windows?

You're asking the group to comment on why Apple wants to keep their users
trapped inside the Apple (prison) ecosystem? This is gonna be one long
thread....;-)

As you probably know, there are 3rd party iPad file managers but natively,
I'm only aware of iTunes and iCloud allowing access to contents of folders
from other systems as I recently learned - the hard way. There are
limitations on the file types but not being an Apple guru - I'll leave that
to others for commenting on. As for managing the Apple IOS file system from
Windows, nothing I've read allows the same management level you are used to
on a Windows system.

I needed a new tablet this past week so I bought the new 9.7 iPad with 128GB
storage. Gorgeous screen and it's fast. Great tablet - but I live in a
Windows world and after finding out the limitations and kludges I would have
to use to transfer files/folders between the systems, I gave up. Not worth
the effort. Got the new MS Surface Go (8GB 128GB) and upgraded it to Win10
Pro - problem solved. Be glad to answer any questions about it if others
are interested.

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Bob S.

In article , Bob_S wrote:

I needed a new tablet this past week so I bought the new 9.7 iPad with 128GB
storage. Gorgeous screen and it's fast. Great tablet - but I live in a
Windows world and after finding out the limitations and kludges I would have
to use to transfer files/folders between the systems, I gave up. Not worth
the effort.

it's very easy to move content to/from an ipad, regardless of operating
system.

the limitation is with you, not the device.

"nospam" wrote in message ...

In article , Bob_S wrote:

I needed a new tablet this past week so I bought the new 9.7 iPad with
128GB
storage. Gorgeous screen and it's fast. Great tablet - but I live in a
Windows world and after finding out the limitations and kludges I would
have
to use to transfer files/folders between the systems, I gave up. Not
worth
the effort.

it's very easy to move content to/from an ipad, regardless of operating
system.

the limitation is with you, not the device.


Great remark - now would you read the the OP's question which I addressed.
Manage being the operative word. You can copy certain file types natively
(iTunes, iCloud) which they specify. Managing the file system is a whole
other matter.

So genius - enlighten us by addressing the original question asked and not
what you think it said.

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Bob S.

In article , Bob_S wrote:

I needed a new tablet this past week so I bought the new 9.7 iPad with
128GB
storage. Gorgeous screen and it's fast. Great tablet - but I live in a
Windows world and after finding out the limitations and kludges I would
have
to use to transfer files/folders between the systems, I gave up. Not
worth the effort.

it's very easy to move content to/from an ipad, regardless of operating
system.

the limitation is with you, not the device.

Great remark - now would you read the the OP's question which I addressed.

actually, you didn't, and the original poster is a well known troll.

Manage being the operative word. You can copy certain file types natively
(iTunes, iCloud) which they specify. Managing the file system is a whole
other matter.

that is of course, absolutely false.

you said you gave up. that means you chose not to learn something new.

that's *your* decision, not a limitation of the device.

as i said, it's very easy to move content to/from an ipad, regardless
of operating system. i do it daily between mac, windows, linux and
*bsd. itunes or the cloud is *not* required. it's simply an *option*
among many.

You're the troll - asshole.

Always a snide remark and no substance - just like now.

On 13 Aug 2018 19:45:14 GMT, Bob_S wrote:

I needed a new tablet this past week so I bought the new 9.7 iPad with 128GB
storage. Gorgeous screen and it's fast. Great tablet - but I live in a
Windows world and after finding out the limitations and kludges I would have
to use to transfer files/folders between the systems, I gave up.

While nospam calls everyone who speaks facts a troll, I back up what I say
with facts (nospam has zero credibility - he makes everything up).
Why do the iOS trolls like nospam always FABRICATE everything?
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/GExRc1qrFGo/JBzdCKSSAwAJ

The fact is I have bought plenty of iOS & Android devices over the years,
where it just astounds me how severely restricted the iOS operating system
is compared to Android. https://u.cubeupload.com/WNbbxt.jpg

Like you, I also have the $300 Costco 9.7-inch 2017 WiFi-only iPad with
128GB storage. https://u.cubeupload.com/5IUrm6.jpg

For Android, I can just connect to either Windows or Linux to access the
entire Android visible file system, *read & write*, all without a single
bit of additional software on either the mobile device or the desktop that
isn't part of the initial setup.

For iOS, I can do that on Linux with no problems whatsoever, for read and
write access sans a single bit of additional softwa
https://cubeupload.com/im/BOLdzU.jpg.

NOTE: Booting to Linux works *perfectly* to access three (3) file systems
simultaneously! (Yes, all three - with only two devices!)
a. Windows
b. Linux
c. Mobile device (either iOS or Android)

But, when booting to Windows, you only get a single read-only mount point:
https://u.cubeupload.com/jIUogJ.jpg

With Android - you get power; with iOS - you get restrictions.

Most iOS users "just give up" when it comes to doing what we do all day
every day without even batting an eye on Android.

In article , Arlen Holder
wrote:

For iOS, I can do that on Linux with no problems whatsoever, for read and
write access sans a single bit of additional softwa

....

But, when booting to Windows, you only get a single read-only mount point:

that would be a limitation of windows, and in this case, user error.

On 13 Aug 2018 21:52:49 GMT, nospam wrote:

But, when booting to Windows, you only get a single read-only mount point:

that would be a limitation of windows, and in this case, user error.

It's extremely rare for you, nopsam, to ever guess correctly, but in this
case, you're actually closer to the truth than you can possibly imagine.

When dual booting to Linux, with both a typical unrooted iOS and Android
device connected by USB to the typical desktop, Linux has no problem seeing
the entire visible file system of all four devices (only 3 of which are
booted):
1. Linux entire visible file system (no limits)
2. Windows entire visible file system (no limits)
3. Android entire visible file system (only limited slightly)
4. iOS entire visible file system (which is severely limited even so)

When dual booted to Windows 10, under those same circumstances, Windows
sees far less.

Windows doesn't see the Linux file system.
And Windows sees even less of the highly restricted iOS file system.

As is always the case - anyone on iOS is extremely limited in what they can
do compared to what they can do on Android - since the entire visible file
system on Android is read/write available to both Linux and Windows.

The iOS file system is for people who clearly give up a lot to have it.

Not the least of what iOS users have to give up is their hard-earned money,
where it's been proven that a comparable hardware Android device like the
$130 8-core LG Stylo 3 Plus is FIVE TIMES LESS EXPENSIVE than a far-less
functional five-times-more expensive iOS device such as the overpriced
4-core Apple iPhone 7 Plus (actually only 3 cores which will be
automatically halved in speed in about 1 year).

In addition, as you're aware, it's been proven many times that the app
functionality alone on any modern Android device is so vastly
overwhelmingly more powerful than that of iOS that it's not funny.

*To own iOS, is to give up ... a lot.*