Registry cleaner ?

In ,
thanatoid typed:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !

You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.

Forget the BS spelling faux pas...

It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!

OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

You've got it! Not a single one of the few posters here who spew the same
misinformation over and over have anything they can cite or use to advance
their point other than the occasional anecdotal, unverifiable post and the
um, huh!

Twayne

In ,
Etaoin Shrdlu typed:
thanatoid wrote:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...
Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !
You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.
Forget the BS spelling faux pas...
It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!
OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

What you haven't done, for all of your posturing, is tell why you
think registry cleaning is a good idea. We know that there's always a
chance that a neophyte will "clean" something that will result in
trouble, and even if the chance is remote, there must be something
that makes the risk worthwhile. If you just want to clean out
orphaned entries because their presence bothers you, that's a
personal neurosis and not evidence of efficacy. Do you believe that
large numbers of orphaned entries cause a problem (such as
significantly slowing down the system) other than their mere
presence? If so, what objective evidence do you have? Note that "I
know my system's faster after registry cleaning" isn't objective
evidence.

You're completely wrong. For answers to your own question see one of my
other responses. As usual, you only think about orphaned entries and nothing
else in your myopic state of unreadiness. You parrot but you know nothing
about what you say.

HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Etaoin Shrdlu typed:
thanatoid wrote:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...
Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !
You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.
Forget the BS spelling faux pas...
It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!
OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

What you haven't done, for all of your posturing, is tell why you
think registry cleaning is a good idea. We know that there's always a
chance that a neophyte will "clean" something that will result in
trouble, and even if the chance is remote, there must be something
that makes the risk worthwhile. If you just want to clean out
orphaned entries because their presence bothers you, that's a
personal neurosis and not evidence of efficacy. Do you believe that
large numbers of orphaned entries cause a problem (such as
significantly slowing down the system) other than their mere
presence? If so, what objective evidence do you have? Note that "I
know my system's faster after registry cleaning" isn't objective
evidence.

You're completely wrong. For answers to your own question see one of my
other responses. As usual, you only think about orphaned entries and nothing
else in your myopic state of unreadiness. You parrot but you know nothing
about what you say.

HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
You don't see much of anything.
"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !

You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.

Forget the BS spelling faux pas...

It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!

OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

Said the almost most ignorant one

In ,
Unknown typed:
You don't see much of anything.
"thanatoid" wrote in message
...
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !

You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.

Forget the BS spelling faux pas...

It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!

OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

Said the almost most ignorant one

How you come about that preposterous supposition is a question for the ages
I'm afraid. Your'e off topic and off your feed. Redirecting a thread doesn't
work for a lot of people.
Worst are the ones who won't follow what's already been established and
mix the order anyway. So here's your glorious top post; snipped yet.


In ,
Peter Foldes typed:
What are you talking about? I am not going to read 50 lines of
text I have already read previously just to find out.


And there you go.
snip

How you come about that preposterous supposition is a question for the ages
I'm afraid. Your'e off topic and off your feed. Redirecting a thread doesn't
work for a lot of people.
Worst are the ones who won't follow what's already been established and
mix the order anyway. So here's your glorious top post; snipped yet.


In ,
Peter Foldes typed:
What are you talking about? I am not going to read 50 lines of
text I have already read previously just to find out.


And there you go.
snip

What an out and out lie! Each and every time a poster posted the damage
caused by a registry
cleaner to their system you completely ignored and wouldn't respond.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
thanatoid typed:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !

You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.

Forget the BS spelling faux pas...

It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!

OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

You've got it! Not a single one of the few posters here who spew the same
misinformation over and over have anything they can cite or use to advance
their point other than the occasional anecdotal, unverifiable post and the
um, huh!

Twayne

What an out and out lie! Each and every time a poster posted the damage
caused by a registry
cleaner to their system you completely ignored and wouldn't respond.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
thanatoid typed:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !

You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.

Forget the BS spelling faux pas...

It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!

OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

You've got it! Not a single one of the few posters here who spew the same
misinformation over and over have anything they can cite or use to advance
their point other than the occasional anecdotal, unverifiable post and the
um, huh!

Twayne

In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't do
any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved cleaners
and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when people post
seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners you are
nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that when it
comes to posts about registry cleaners you have a case of selected
blindness, and when you do reply to posts you usually leave your
brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without anything to
back themselves up and which I know from education, research and experience
to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will" cause irrepairale damage, not
"could" cause some kind of minor damage, and so forth. Even a preface of "in
my opinion" in your posts would quiet me down. But that's not your posture
and you know it. Your'e also wrong and you know it.
As for your last sentence, projection won't do you much good; you have to
become an actual thinking person as opposed to a mindless follower without
anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't do
any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved cleaners
and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when people post
seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners you are
nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that when it
comes to posts about registry cleaners you have a case of selected
blindness, and when you do reply to posts you usually leave your
brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without anything to
back themselves up and which I know from education, research and experience
to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will" cause irrepairale damage, not
"could" cause some kind of minor damage, and so forth. Even a preface of "in
my opinion" in your posts would quiet me down. But that's not your posture
and you know it. Your'e also wrong and you know it.
As for your last sentence, projection won't do you much good; you have to
become an actual thinking person as opposed to a mindless follower without
anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Steve Hayes typed:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:22:54 -0400, John John - MVP
wrote:


Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just
source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't do
any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners
you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that
when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you have a case of
selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts you usually leave
your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

None of which tells us ANYTHING about why you think we should not use
registry cleaners, and what harm you think they do.

And they never will, Steve. I used to gently prod for something, anything,
that would lead them to their decisions and opinions. If there were any
truth to their contentions, there would be a LOT of information all over the
web sites about the subject of how useless they are. But it's only a small
clique here wanting to force their opinions on the newbies and weaker
personalities they might suck in.
Nowadays I just take every opportunity to expose their lies and
misinformation; it's more fun anyway, since they have absolutely nothing but
a few anecdotal messages to back up their claims.

Cheers,

Twayne`

In ,
Steve Hayes typed:
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 21:22:54 -0400, John John - MVP
wrote:


Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just
source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't do
any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners
you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that
when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you have a case of
selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts you usually leave
your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

None of which tells us ANYTHING about why you think we should not use
registry cleaners, and what harm you think they do.

And they never will, Steve. I used to gently prod for something, anything,
that would lead them to their decisions and opinions. If there were any
truth to their contentions, there would be a LOT of information all over the
web sites about the subject of how useless they are. But it's only a small
clique here wanting to force their opinions on the newbies and weaker
personalities they might suck in.
Nowadays I just take every opportunity to expose their lies and
misinformation; it's more fun anyway, since they have absolutely nothing but
a few anecdotal messages to back up their claims.

Cheers,

Twayne`

Twayne the registry cleaner program seller is back!

Been away for 5 days.


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
I'll post where ever I want and if you don't like it don't bother
reading my posts.

What good, pray tell, has a registry cleaner ever done for you? Like
all the other believers out there you put some kind of blind faith or
voodoo trust in them and because your registry cleaner has found and
removed a couple of orphaned registry entries it gives you a warm
fuzzy feeling and you think that it's doing something useful.

Your question says it all, "WHAT, pray tell, has one done to any of
YOUR systems that you could not undo with the backup files...". That
is the gist of it all. Why bother with programs that at best do
nothing other than give you a fuzzy feeling and that at worst will
cause problems requiring you to restore registry files? That is if
the registry cleaner can even restore its own backup (often they
can't) or if it hasn't crippled the installation to the point where
the Windows can't boot properly.
John

thanatoid wrote:
John John - MVP wrote in
:

Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners,
they cause more harm than good.




Don't top post.

WHAT, pray tell, has one done to any of YOUR systems that you
could not undo with the backup files (which all the ones I have
used offer to create - and NONE of which I have ever had to use
myself)?

I'll post where ever I want and if you don't like it don't bother
reading my posts.

I'll do exactly as I please, thank you! And I could not care less whether
maroons read my posts or not. It's your choice.

What good, pray tell, has a registry cleaner ever done for you? Like
all the other believers out there you put some kind of blind faith or
voodoo trust in them and because your registry cleaner has found and
removed a couple of orphaned registry entries it gives you a warm
fuzzy feeling and you think that it's doing something useful.

Registry cleaners have done an immense amount of good for me, ranging
from speeding boot times on occastion, getting programs back and working
that were hijacked by a leftover entry the prog just happened to pick up,
faster registry-load times into RAM, etc., all the way to doing nothing
perceptible. That's what they've done for me.
Orphaned entries are irrelevant but apparently the only thing you thing
cleaners do. You are so wrong. It's only intentional ignorance that gives
you your own warm fuzzies, I'm afraid.
I'd love to see you trying to get a machine working right again after say
Office quits working, won't start, won't uninstall and won't reinstall.
Do you even have a hint how many regisry entries you'll find for MS
Office? After replacing msinstaller and ten more minutes, I fired up the
registry cleaner and within a minute or so had MS Office removed from the
registry since I'd deleted all the files it could try to access.

Why bother with programs that at best do
nothing other than give you a fuzzy feeling and that at worst will
cause problems requiring you to restore registry files?
NO SENSE at all! But I don't have any such programs, so ... . Oh, and
in over a decade I've never had a cleaner do any damage to a single byte
on my machines. The good ones are just as robust as the registry is these
days but even the first ones didn't damage anything as you like to keep
repeating ad infinitum in your dazed condition.

That is if
the registry cleaner can even restore its own backup (often they
can't) or if it hasn't crippled the installation to the point where
the Windows can't boot properly.

Ahh, there we a You must download crapola without so much as a thought
to whether the source is going to be legitimate or not. Go looking for no
names and you'll find damaging software in a lot more than registry
cleaners! By contrast, there are very few of them compared to other
possibilities of malware and adware.
I've never had any machine damaged in any way by any of the ones I use.
I've never even had to use the "recovery" functions of any of them, mostly
because I won't use a program that relies on having malware present in
order to run, of which there used to be quite a few of them.

These cleaners are next to utterly
useless and the purposed non existent benefits parroted by the
vendors and fans of these programs are simply not worth the risk of
the real damages that these programs can and do sometimes cause.

Let's see, that long run on sentence says exactly the opposite of what
reality is. There's no more risk than installing any reputable program/s
barring power outages, etc.. THEY - DO - NO - DAMAGE - NOT - EVEN -
SOMETIMES .

It's too bad you insist on keeping your running intentional ignorance and
have absolutely no, nada, not even an inkling of any actual evidence to
support your foolish contentions.

As for benefits parroted by vendors: So now you're saying hype shouldn't
be believed? Hmm, that pretty much puts Microsoft and a lot of other big
boys in the tank! If one doesn't hype their product, how is one to know
what the product even is? You're also a marketing moron in addition to
your misinformation and even the occasional lies.

I feel fer ya! But not much. Thanks for this opportunity to once again
expose you for what you are.

Cheers,

Twayne`

Twayne the registry cleaner program seller is back!

Been away for 5 days.


"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
I'll post where ever I want and if you don't like it don't bother
reading my posts.

What good, pray tell, has a registry cleaner ever done for you? Like
all the other believers out there you put some kind of blind faith or
voodoo trust in them and because your registry cleaner has found and
removed a couple of orphaned registry entries it gives you a warm
fuzzy feeling and you think that it's doing something useful.

Your question says it all, "WHAT, pray tell, has one done to any of
YOUR systems that you could not undo with the backup files...". That
is the gist of it all. Why bother with programs that at best do
nothing other than give you a fuzzy feeling and that at worst will
cause problems requiring you to restore registry files? That is if
the registry cleaner can even restore its own backup (often they
can't) or if it hasn't crippled the installation to the point where
the Windows can't boot properly.
John

thanatoid wrote:
John John - MVP wrote in
:

Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners,
they cause more harm than good.




Don't top post.

WHAT, pray tell, has one done to any of YOUR systems that you
could not undo with the backup files (which all the ones I have
used offer to create - and NONE of which I have ever had to use
myself)?

I'll post where ever I want and if you don't like it don't bother
reading my posts.

I'll do exactly as I please, thank you! And I could not care less whether
maroons read my posts or not. It's your choice.

What good, pray tell, has a registry cleaner ever done for you? Like
all the other believers out there you put some kind of blind faith or
voodoo trust in them and because your registry cleaner has found and
removed a couple of orphaned registry entries it gives you a warm
fuzzy feeling and you think that it's doing something useful.

Registry cleaners have done an immense amount of good for me, ranging
from speeding boot times on occastion, getting programs back and working
that were hijacked by a leftover entry the prog just happened to pick up,
faster registry-load times into RAM, etc., all the way to doing nothing
perceptible. That's what they've done for me.
Orphaned entries are irrelevant but apparently the only thing you thing
cleaners do. You are so wrong. It's only intentional ignorance that gives
you your own warm fuzzies, I'm afraid.
I'd love to see you trying to get a machine working right again after say
Office quits working, won't start, won't uninstall and won't reinstall.
Do you even have a hint how many regisry entries you'll find for MS
Office? After replacing msinstaller and ten more minutes, I fired up the
registry cleaner and within a minute or so had MS Office removed from the
registry since I'd deleted all the files it could try to access.

Why bother with programs that at best do
nothing other than give you a fuzzy feeling and that at worst will
cause problems requiring you to restore registry files?
NO SENSE at all! But I don't have any such programs, so ... . Oh, and
in over a decade I've never had a cleaner do any damage to a single byte
on my machines. The good ones are just as robust as the registry is these
days but even the first ones didn't damage anything as you like to keep
repeating ad infinitum in your dazed condition.

That is if
the registry cleaner can even restore its own backup (often they
can't) or if it hasn't crippled the installation to the point where
the Windows can't boot properly.

Ahh, there we a You must download crapola without so much as a thought
to whether the source is going to be legitimate or not. Go looking for no
names and you'll find damaging software in a lot more than registry
cleaners! By contrast, there are very few of them compared to other
possibilities of malware and adware.
I've never had any machine damaged in any way by any of the ones I use.
I've never even had to use the "recovery" functions of any of them, mostly
because I won't use a program that relies on having malware present in
order to run, of which there used to be quite a few of them.

These cleaners are next to utterly
useless and the purposed non existent benefits parroted by the
vendors and fans of these programs are simply not worth the risk of
the real damages that these programs can and do sometimes cause.

Let's see, that long run on sentence says exactly the opposite of what
reality is. There's no more risk than installing any reputable program/s
barring power outages, etc.. THEY - DO - NO - DAMAGE - NOT - EVEN -
SOMETIMES .

It's too bad you insist on keeping your running intentional ignorance and
have absolutely no, nada, not even an inkling of any actual evidence to
support your foolish contentions.

As for benefits parroted by vendors: So now you're saying hype shouldn't
be believed? Hmm, that pretty much puts Microsoft and a lot of other big
boys in the tank! If one doesn't hype their product, how is one to know
what the product even is? You're also a marketing moron in addition to
your misinformation and even the occasional lies.

I feel fer ya! But not much. Thanks for this opportunity to once again
expose you for what you are.

Cheers,

Twayne`