Registry cleaner ?

Twayne wrote:

I'd love to see you trying to get a machine working right again after
say Office quits working, won't start, won't uninstall and won't
reinstall. Do you even have a hint how many regisry entries you'll find
for MS Office?

That is quite a joke... it probably quit working because you ran your
useless registry cleaner as Office is one of the applications that is
most often broken by worthless registry cleaners! Where were you when
this was posted:

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...3c7b89f3ba?q=#

As usual when these problems are exposed you conveniently disappear.
And if you're such an Office expert you should know by now that
Microsoft has a removal tool just for Office. Next time don't use your
cleaners and you won't break Office, and, if you do break Office,
instead of causing more damages with your cleaners go to the Office site
and get the removal tool!

John

Twayne wrote:

I'd love to see you trying to get a machine working right again after
say Office quits working, won't start, won't uninstall and won't
reinstall. Do you even have a hint how many regisry entries you'll find
for MS Office?

That is quite a joke... it probably quit working because you ran your
useless registry cleaner as Office is one of the applications that is
most often broken by worthless registry cleaners! Where were you when
this was posted:

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...3c7b89f3ba?q=#

As usual when these problems are exposed you conveniently disappear.
And if you're such an Office expert you should know by now that
Microsoft has a removal tool just for Office. Next time don't use your
cleaners and you won't break Office, and, if you do break Office,
instead of causing more damages with your cleaners go to the Office site
and get the removal tool!

John

Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't
do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved cleaners
and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when people post
seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners you are
nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that when it
comes to posts about registry cleaners you have a case of selected
blindness, and when you do reply to posts you usually leave your
brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong.

No, we have all noticed it. When people post with problems brought
about by registry cleaners you *never* offer any help, you simply
disappear. It's so blatant, you are there defending your cleaners 5
minutes earlier but as soon as someone has problems you go blind and see
nothing. Who are you really trying to kid?

John

Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't
do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved cleaners
and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when people post
seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners you are
nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that when it
comes to posts about registry cleaners you have a case of selected
blindness, and when you do reply to posts you usually leave your
brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong.

No, we have all noticed it. When people post with problems brought
about by registry cleaners you *never* offer any help, you simply
disappear. It's so blatant, you are there defending your cleaners 5
minutes earlier but as soon as someone has problems you go blind and see
nothing. Who are you really trying to kid?

John

I have never once, in at least 5 years, seen you respond to someone who
posted the damage done to
his/her machine by a registry cleaner. You conveniently ignore them. Then,
you severely criticize some who
says registry cleaners are 'snakeoil'. Why are you so two faced? Do you work
for the 'snakeoil' developers?

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't do
any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved cleaners
and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when people post
seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners you are
nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that when it
comes to posts about registry cleaners you have a case of selected
blindness, and when you do reply to posts you usually leave your
brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without anything to
back themselves up and which I know from education, research and
experience to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will" cause irrepairale
damage, not "could" cause some kind of minor damage, and so forth. Even a
preface of "in my opinion" in your posts would quiet me down. But that's
not your posture and you know it. Your'e also wrong and you know it.
As for your last sentence, projection won't do you much good; you have
to become an actual thinking person as opposed to a mindless follower
without anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

I have never once, in at least 5 years, seen you respond to someone who
posted the damage done to
his/her machine by a registry cleaner. You conveniently ignore them. Then,
you severely criticize some who
says registry cleaners are 'snakeoil'. Why are you so two faced? Do you work
for the 'snakeoil' developers?

"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't do
any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved cleaners
and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when people post
seeking help with real problems caused by these cleaners you are
nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have noticed that when it
comes to posts about registry cleaners you have a case of selected
blindness, and when you do reply to posts you usually leave your
brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without anything to
back themselves up and which I know from education, research and
experience to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will" cause irrepairale
damage, not "could" cause some kind of minor damage, and so forth. Even a
preface of "in my opinion" in your posts would quiet me down. But that's
not your posture and you know it. Your'e also wrong and you know it.
As for your last sentence, projection won't do you much good; you have
to become an actual thinking person as opposed to a mindless follower
without anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

Twayne

LOL. You are a real gem Twayne

It is so strange that you disappear and do not show up when a poster posts that he
messed up his system after using a Registry Tool. Happens with you time and time
again that you avoid to answer in those posts because you know that you will be
wrong which you are all the time when it comes to Registry Tools and it's effect on
Operating Systems..
The only thing that you can do in posts concerning Registry Cleaners is to blast
everyone that disagrees with your belief that Reg Cleaning tools do magic for
someone's OS

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
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"Unknown" wrote in message
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What an out and out lie! Each and every time a poster posted the damage caused by
a registry
cleaner to their system you completely ignored and wouldn't respond.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
thanatoid typed:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !

You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.

Forget the BS spelling faux pas...

It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!

OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

You've got it! Not a single one of the few posters here who spew the same
misinformation over and over have anything they can cite or use to advance their
point other than the occasional anecdotal, unverifiable post and the um, huh!

Twayne

Twayne

LOL. You are a real gem Twayne

It is so strange that you disappear and do not show up when a poster posts that he
messed up his system after using a Registry Tool. Happens with you time and time
again that you avoid to answer in those posts because you know that you will be
wrong which you are all the time when it comes to Registry Tools and it's effect on
Operating Systems..
The only thing that you can do in posts concerning Registry Cleaners is to blast
everyone that disagrees with your belief that Reg Cleaning tools do magic for
someone's OS

--
Peter

Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others
Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged.

"Unknown" wrote in message
...
What an out and out lie! Each and every time a poster posted the damage caused by
a registry
cleaner to their system you completely ignored and wouldn't respond.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
thanatoid typed:
"David H. Lipman" wrote in
:

SNIP

Rulle of thumb...

Do NOT use so-called Registry Cleaners !

You "rulle" of thumb is as good as its spelling.

Forget the BS spelling faux pas...

It is contraindicated to use so-called Registry Cleaners
!

OK, I'll bite... Why?

Because the need for one is a myth

I just LOVE specific replies! Bravo!

Use can cause MORE problems than they purport to solve.
Problems that can be catastrophic.

I /could/ ask for an example but judging by your "reply" to my
first question, I don't see much point.

You've got it! Not a single one of the few posters here who spew the same
misinformation over and over have anything they can cite or use to advance their
point other than the occasional anecdotal, unverifiable post and the um, huh!

Twayne

In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't
do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong.

No, we have all noticed it. When people post with problems brought
about by registry cleaners you *never* offer any help, you simply
disappear. It's so blatant, you are there defending your cleaners 5
minutes earlier but as soon as someone has problems you go blind and
see nothing. Who are you really trying to kid?

John

Aha, that's an exact description of YOUR MO! You'll find I either: Offer an
answer to at minimum tell the poster that you are all wet and not to be
taken seriously.


HTH,

Twayne

In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They don't
do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong.

No, we have all noticed it. When people post with problems brought
about by registry cleaners you *never* offer any help, you simply
disappear. It's so blatant, you are there defending your cleaners 5
minutes earlier but as soon as someone has problems you go blind and
see nothing. Who are you really trying to kid?

John

Aha, that's an exact description of YOUR MO! You'll find I either: Offer an
answer to at minimum tell the poster that you are all wet and not to be
taken seriously.


HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
I have never once, in at least 5 years, seen you respond to someone
who posted the damage done to
his/her machine by a registry cleaner.

Well, you'd better go look again. Or put your glasses on. I don't offer
answers to someone if I don't know the answer. But I DO address your
misinformation. K? And, I'm clear about what I'm doing.
You've missed a lot of posts in 5 years.

... You conveniently ignore them.

But you don't, if you have a chance to spew your misinformation, huh?

Then, you severely criticize some who
says registry cleaners are 'snakeoil'. Why are you so two faced? Do
you work for the 'snakeoil' developers?

I criticize liars, misinformationists and those who lump the entier world
together with one color. I would join your vendetta if even one of you have
any verifiable, legitimate information from an unbiased source to disprove
the functionality of every registry cleaner ever made. It's an extremely
stupid premise to start with and intentionally ignorant besides.

And if you think those are severe criticisms, may I suggest you need a
thicker snake skin?


HTH,

Twayne




"Twayne" wrote in message
...
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Twayne wrote:
In ,
John John - MVP typed:
Don't bother with these utterly useless registry cleaners, they
cause more harm than good.

Completely untrue. Posted from ignorance and to be a gopher for a
small group of registry cleaner libelists. Like any other program,
just source a reliable program from a reliable web site. They
don't do any
harm or damage and they also allow you to undo any changes you make
anyway.

As usual and in your true form when ever these useless programs are
exposed for what they are you are here to defend your beloved
cleaners and to insult all who disagree with you. However, when
people post seeking help with real problems caused by these
cleaners you are nowhere to been seen. Most of us here have
noticed that when it comes to posts about registry cleaners you
have a case of selected blindness, and when you do reply to posts
you usually leave your brains and manners parked somewhere else.

John

Wrong. I only address those who make untrue statements without
anything to back themselves up and which I know from education,
research and experience to be completely wrong. e.g. you say "will"
cause irrepairale damage, not "could" cause some kind of minor
damage, and so forth. Even a preface of "in my opinion" in your
posts would quiet me down. But that's not your posture and you know
it. Your'e also wrong and you know it. As for your last sentence,
projection won't do you much good; you have to become an actual thinking
person as opposed to a mindless follower
without anything to back up or verify what you claim.

HTH,

Twayne

I was going to give you a pass, but ... go measure the added time it takes
to load a registry with 4 Meg of orphans. It's considerably longer than 1
second, and also depends on knowing the cpu speed, front buss speed,
pagefile status, latencies and buffers statuses. That time is present during
the load and the unload as it spools everything back to disc, not to mention
the movements that must continually happen in RAM as data is pushed around
to make room for or remove other data. You simply cannot say 1.S without
those numbers because your'e talking about a very fast machine when you do.

"When the registry ... " is pure unadulterated crap if one is using a
branded, reputable cleaner.

Maybe the points below will help the OP:


In ,
VanguardLH typed:
Jackson wrote:

Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.

Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL

- What is currently wrong or failing with the registry?

I may have just noticed an increase of about 40, maybe 60, seconds in boot
time. You should know what that indidates.

- What convinced you that the registry needs to be "cleaned" up?

Depends; The OP didn't say he had a problem; he asked for advice, such as
ccleaner, or Norton tools, or whatever. You provided no such thing and thus
had no business responding.

- What constitutes the "cleaning" actions?

lol, if you don't know, I'm not about to tell you!

- What do you expect to gain from the cleanup?

Either repair of an issue, or possibly simply a process of elimination if
it's possible the registry were at fault. But again, the OP asked for
programs, not your drivel advice.

- What are you going to do if the registry changes hose over
your computer since a restore may not be possible?

That's fantasy. Only malware or kiddie-code could screw up a machine to the
point where it couldn't boot. It's nearly impossible, unless there is
malware or serious code corruption, to stop a machine from boothing using a
reputable program.

- What is your recovery strategy from the registry changes?

Restore Points. Save the System State. Etc.

*_Why the uneducated or lazy should never use registry cleaners_*

If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes.

So, don't YOU use a word processor or any office program, because they all
impact the registry with thousands of entries upon install, and if you8
don't know their internal workings completely, don't use it! Or any other
program, for that matter! Just totally ignore the reason any program
exists; to save time and effort.

Regardless of relinquishing the task to software, YOU are the final
authority in allowing it to make the changes. Any registry cleaner
that does not request for YOU to give permission to make its proposed
changes along with listing each proposed change should be discarded.

I don't believe there is any such thing in any but the most pathetic of
examples of malware and kiddie-code.

....


Say there was an unusually high amount of orphaned entries in your
registry, like 4MB. By deleting the orphaned entries, you would
speed up how long it takes Windows to load the registry's files when
it starts up - by all of maybe 1 second.

Wrong. Measure it, or calculate it. With the given information. You cannot
do it.

Oooh, aaah. All that risk
of modifying the registry to save maybe a second, or less, during the
Windows startup.

Wrong again.

....


Cleaning the registry will NOT improve performance in reading from the
memory copy of the registry.

Why is it you dummies think there is no reason to use a registry cleaner
other than to delete orphaned entries? Even discounting your impossible math
above, you suddenly switch to reading RAM all of a sudden. Huh?

The reduced size of the registry's .dat
files might reduce the load time of Windows by all of a second and
probably much less.

Again, something you cannot possibly know based on the info you have.

And you want to risk the stability of your OS
for inconsequential changes to its registry?

No, the OP asked for WHICH program, which you ignored.

The same boobs that get
suckered into these registry cleanup "tools" are the same ones that
get suckered into the memory defragment "tools".

OOF! Now you've clearly shown your ignorance. How the hell do you get from
asking for advice on a registry cleaner to mem defrag? Just another chance
to be condescending, I know. You're a real idiot here.

A registry cleaner should only be used if you by yourself can
correctly cleanup the registry. The cleaner is just a tool to
automate the same process but you should know every change that it
intends to make and understand each of those changes. After all, and
regardless of the stagnant expertise that is hard coded into the
utility, *YOU* are the final authority in what registry changes are
performed whether you do it manually or with a utility. If YOU do
not understand the proposed change (which requires the product
actually divulge the proposed change before committing that change),
how will you know whether or not to allow that change?

Good question and one that's often overlooked because of a refusal to RTFM
by way too many people. Not reading the screen is even worse; most tell you
right on the screen these days; at least all 3 of mine do.
But, you do not have to be a registry expert; what you do need is the
ability to recognize names of your own programs and how to look up whatever
it may be showing you to see whether it's part of one of our own programs or
not.
But again, you've jumped to orphaned entries in your own mind. YOUr
entire post and non-response here are MORONIC. YOU need to seriously get
YOUrself some interpersonal skills on how to work with people and actually
accomplish something good on the groups. As far as I can see YOU're nothing
but a moron.


HTH,

Twayne

In ,
Unknown typed:
VanguardLH said it correctly. If you are inept at editing the registry
manually don't use a program to do
it for you. His post was well said and educational.
But, Sandy58, this has absolutely nothing to do with fixing corrupt
files, do a spell-check, do a full search,
take/make a snapshot, etc. Perhaps, you have no idea what a registry
is?

Actually, it does. He very likely does all those things without knowing
exactly how they're performed or executed.


HTH,

Twayne



"sandy58" wrote in message
...
On Jan 8, 1:30 am, VanguardLH wrote:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.

Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL

- What is currently wrong or failing with the registry?
- What convinced you that the registry needs to be "cleaned" up?
- What constitutes the "cleaning" actions?
- What do you expect to gain from the cleanup?
- What are you going to do if the registry changes hose over
your computer since a restore may not be possible?
- What is your recovery strategy from the registry changes?

*_Why the uneducated or lazy should never use registry cleaners_*

If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes.
Regardless of relinquishing the task to software, YOU are the final
authority in allowing
it to make the changes. Any registry cleaner that does not request
for YOU to give permission to make its proposed changes along with
listing each proposed change should be discarded.

Do you have a backup & restore plan in place? When (and not if) the
registry cleaner corrupts your registry and when you can no longer
boot into
Windows, just how are you going to restore that OS partition so it is
usable
again? Even if you use a registry cleaner that provides for backups
of its changes so you can revert back to the prior state, how are
you going to perform that restore if you cannot boot the OS after
hosing over its registry? What about entries in the registry that
look to be orphaned under
the current OS load instance but are used under a different OS
environment?
You delete what looks orphaned only to find out that they are
required under
a different environment.

Say there was an unusually high amount of orphaned entries in your
registry,
like 4MB. By deleting the orphaned entries, you would speed up how
long it takes Windows to load the registry's files when it starts up
- by all of maybe 1 second. Oooh, aaah. All that risk of modifying
the registry to save maybe a second, or less, during the Windows
startup. Most folks that clean the registry end up deleting only
10KB, or less. They are doing nothing to improve their Windows load
time. Since the registry is only read
from the memory copy of it, and since memory is random access, there
is no difference to read one byte of the registry (in memory) from
the another byte in the registry (also in memory). The extra data in
memory for orphaned entries has no effect on the time to retrieve
items from the memory
copy of the registry because orphaned entries are never retrieved
(if they were, they aren't orphaned).

Cleaning the registry will NOT improve performance in reading from
the memory copy of the registry. The reduced size of the registry's
.dat files might reduce the load time of Windows by all of a second
and probably much less. And you want to risk the stability of your
OS for inconsequential changes to its registry? The same boobs that
get suckered into these registry cleanup "tools" are the same ones
that get suckered into the memory
defragment "tools".

A registry cleaner should only be used if you by yourself can
correctly cleanup the registry. The cleaner is just a tool to
automate the same process but you should know every change that it
intends to make and understand each of those changes. After all, and
regardless of the stagnant
expertise that is hard coded into the utility, *YOU* are the final
authority
in what registry changes are performed whether you do it manually or
with a
utility. If YOU do not understand the proposed change (which
requires the product actually divulge the proposed change before
committing that change),
how will you know whether or not to allow that change?

Rather a brash statement:
"If YOU are not adept at *manually* editing the registry, don't use a
tool
that you don't understand regarding its proposed changes. "
Does that mean you personally can MANUALLY fix Corrupt files, do a
Spellcheck, do a full Search, take/make a Snapshot, do the job of a
Translator...withOUT using software? Behave, laddie. You MAY be Good
but you AIN'T God......YET!

Ahh, the original intentionally ignorant misinformationist! Just looking
for a chance to make your moronic spiel, eh? You've been exposed so many
times I don't think it's even necessary to go through it all again. You're
wrong now, always have been, and always will be. Your advice here is
complete "snake-oil" by definition.

HTH,

Twayne






In ,
Bruce Chambers typed:
Jackson wrote:
Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.

Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL


Why would you even think you'd ever need to clean your registry?
What specific *problems* are you actually experiencing (not some
program's bogus listing of imaginary problems) that you think can be
fixed by using a registry "cleaner?"

If you do have a problem that is rooted in the registry, it would
be far better to simply edit (after backing up, of course) only the
specific key(s) and/or value(s) that are causing the problem. After
all, why use a chainsaw when a scalpel will do the job? Additionally,
the manually changing of one or two registry entries is far less
likely to have the dire consequences of allowing an automated product
to make multiple changes simultaneously. The only thing needed to
safely clean your registry is knowledge and Regedit.exe.

The registry contains all of the operating system's "knowledge" of
the computer's hardware devices, installed software, the location of
the device drivers, and the computer's configuration. A misstep in
the registry can have severe consequences. One should not even
turning loose a poorly understood automated "cleaner," unless he is
fully confident that he knows *exactly* what is going to happen as a
result of each and every change.

Having repeatedly seen the results of inexperienced people using
automated registry "cleaners," I can only advise all but the most
experienced computer technicians (and/or hobbyists) to avoid them all.
Experience has shown me that such tools simply are not safe in the
hands of the inexperienced user. If you lack the knowledge and
experience to maintain your registry by yourself, then you also lack
the knowledge and experience to safely configure and use any
automated registry cleaner, no matter how safe they claim to be.

More importantly, no one has ever demonstrated that the use of an
automated registry "cleaner," particularly by an untrained,
inexperienced computer user, does any real good, whatsoever. There's
certainly been no empirical evidence offered to demonstrate that the
use of such products to "clean" WinXP's registry improves a computer's
performance or stability. Given the potential for harm, it's just not
worth the risk.

Granted, most registry "cleaners" won't cause problems each and
every time they're used, but the potential for harm is always there.
And, since no registry "cleaner" has ever been demonstrated to do any
good (think of them like treating the flu with chicken soup - there's
no real medicinal value, but it sometimes provides a warming placebo
effect), I always tell people that the risks far out-weigh the
non-existent benefits.

I will concede that a good registry *scanning* tool, in the hands
of an experienced and knowledgeable technician or hobbyist can be a
useful time-saving diagnostic tool, as long as it's not allowed to
make any changes automatically. But I really don't think that there
are any registry "cleaners" that are truly safe for the general
public to use. Experience has proven just the opposite: such tools
simply are not safe in the hands of the inexperienced user.

A little further reading on the subject:

Why I don't use registry cleaners
http://www.edbott.com/weblog/?p=643

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In ,
Steve Hayes typed:
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 06:48:54 -0500, "David H. Lipman"
wrote:

From: "Jackson"

Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for
Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I
believe it's freeware.

Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or
recomendations?
Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL
....

So how should you clean the registry, then?

Personally I wouldn't use that program for registry cleaning, mainly because
I know nothing about it and never heard of it. I'd opt for ccleaner over
that or better yet a few of the pay-for cleaners that are around.
You're wise to ask for advice here, and I just wish there were responses
from more than a small group of morons here. Those idiots have a lot of
people afraid to even mention a registry cleaner. They're pure idiots,
believe me.

What they should be saying Steve, is that the registry is seldom the root of
computer problems and doesn't need frequent cleaning. It's really a case of
a stubborn problem that can't seem to be fixed otherwise and often is a
last-ditch or process of elimination effort at a fix, simply because it's
not likely to be caused by the registry. There are reasons to immediately
suspect the registry, but it's too much to go into and not write a bookg.
Experience counts there.
If you decide to use a registry cleaner, be certain to first back up your
registry and preferably the System State so it's easy to get back should you
make a mistake. Any good program comes with UNDO functions too, but it's
best to be safe. It's no different than backing up all your data whenever
you decide to mess around with the OS. Always keep a backup handy.

Luck,

Twayne