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Old September 15th 11, 05:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
NewMan
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Default Time Set Problem on Domain Clients...

I have a Win2003 Server with Active Directory.

The server is synced to an atomic clock, and the domain clients - up
until recently - were syncing with the DC.

SO...

All of a sudden I have a number of client computers that are +10
minutes compared with the DC!!!

If I manually reset, then within minutes they jump ahead +10 min again
and lose access to some network resources.

These are a combination of both old and new computers running Win XP
Pro, Win7 x86, and Win7 x64.

Some computers are less than a year old. Some had their CMOS battery
replaced within the last year - ALL are plugged into APC Smart UPS
units! so the CMOS battery should not even matter.

This is causing major headaches!

I tried taking one of the offending - and critical! - machines out of
the domian, deleteing the computer account in AD, and re-joining - NO
DICE! the problem persists!

ANY ideas (other than those already tired!) would be greatly
appreciated! My users are ticked, and I am about to go into a 2 day
Audit - so they are going to have big issues if I don't solve this.

H-E-L-P!!

Thanks in advance!

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Old September 15th 11, 10:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
NewMan
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Default Time Set Problem on Domain Clients...

On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 09:04:46 -0700, Newman
wrote:

I have a Win2003 Server with Active Directory.

The server is synced to an atomic clock, and the domain clients - up
until recently - were syncing with the DC.

SO...

All of a sudden I have a number of client computers that are +10
minutes compared with the DC!!!

If I manually reset, then within minutes they jump ahead +10 min again
and lose access to some network resources.

These are a combination of both old and new computers running Win XP
Pro, Win7 x86, and Win7 x64.

Some computers are less than a year old. Some had their CMOS battery
replaced within the last year - ALL are plugged into APC Smart UPS
units! so the CMOS battery should not even matter.

This is causing major headaches!

I tried taking one of the offending - and critical! - machines out of
the domian, deleteing the computer account in AD, and re-joining - NO
DICE! the problem persists!

ANY ideas (other than those already tired!) would be greatly
appreciated! My users are ticked, and I am about to go into a 2 day
Audit - so they are going to have big issues if I don't solve this.

H-E-L-P!!

Thanks in advance!


On Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:41:43 -0700, Newman
wrote:

I have a Win2003 Server with Active Directory.

The server is synced to an atomic clock, and the domain clients - up
until recently - were syncing with the DC.

SO...

All of a sudden I have a number of client computers that are +10
minutes compared with the DC!!!

If I manually reset, then within minutes they jump ahead +10 min again
and lose access to some network resources.

These are a combination of both old and new computers running Win XP
Pro, Win7 x86, and Win7 x64.

Some computers are less than a year old. Some had their CMOS battery
replaced within the last year - ALL are plugged into APC Smart UPS
units! so the CMOS battery should not even matter.

This is causing major headaches!

I tried taking one of the offending - and critical! - machines out of
the domian, deleteing the computer account in AD, and re-joining - NO
DICE! the problem persists!

ANY ideas (other than those already tired!) would be greatly
appreciated! My users are ticked, and I am about to go into a 2 day
Audit - so they are going to have big issues if I don't solve this.

H-E-L-P!!

Thanks in advance!



OK, how obscure is this....


I have Server1 which is the Domain Controller.

I have a HOST system which is NOT joined to the Domain, but it hosts 2
virtualized servers (2003 and 2008).

The virtualized servers *are* joined to the domian.

So here we go..

When the virtualized servers boot, they sync their clocks to the
domain controller.

About two seconds later, they sync to the HOST system!

And, as fate would have it, about half of the computers on our network
are sync'ing their clocks to the virtualized 2003 server rather than
the Domain Controller (virtualized 2003 is only a "member" server, not
a DC).

So it turns out that the HOST system was never configured to sync to
anything! So over the coarse of time, the HOST has drifted to be 10
minutes faster than the domain controller. And once that happened, the
time rippled up to the virtualized servers, which then went off-line
for the rest of the netowrk based on time variance!

ARG!

I have configured the the HOST system to sync to an atomic time
source, and re-synced it - and the virtualized servers - time has
resumed it's shape.


Now the other hard question...

Why are half of my client systems sync'ing to the virtualized server
2003 rather than the Domain Controller???

More to point, how do I correct it?

I tried w32tm /resync /rediscover - and they go right back to the
virtual box!

Any ideas??
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Old September 16th 11, 06:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John Wunderlich
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Default Time Set Problem on Domain Clients...

Newman wrote in
:

Why are half of my client systems sync'ing to the virtualized
server 2003 rather than the Domain Controller???

More to point, how do I correct it?

I tried w32tm /resync /rediscover - and they go right back to the
virtual box!

Any ideas??


I've had success bringing up a command prompt window and entering
the following sequence of commands:

net time /setsntp:192.168.1.1
w32tm /config /update
w32tm /resync /reconfigure

Where you replace 192.168.1.1 with the IP address of your [S]NTP
time server.

You can also go with Microsoft's instructions for doing this. Look
for the paragraph "Configuring the Windows Time service to use an
external time source" in the following article:

"How to configure an authoritative time server in Windows XP"
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314054

"Windows Time Service Tools and Settings"
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...8WS.10%29.aspx

You might also check for other 3rd party programs that may be
installed and attempt to sync to network times.

HTH,
JW
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Old September 16th 11, 06:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
John Wunderlich
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Default Time Set Problem on Domain Clients...

John Wunderlich wrote in
1:

w32tm /resync /reconfigure


make that:
w32tm /resync /rediscover

 




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