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Salut/Hi Colin

le/on Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:49:26 -0700, tu disais/you said:-

I am sorry so many sites are not more thoughtfully designed. Perhaps when
Avalon debuts (probably in as little as 18 months) you will have more ways
to deal with website content and design as a consumer.

Actually, Colin, this IS quite a serious problem. Though I'd certainly not
blame you for it. I'm one of the very common red/green impaired men. The
mania for designers - not just web site, but generally - to put dark red and
dark green together, creates really quite a serious problem. As Yabbadoo
said, I can see red and green, as in traffic lights etc, I'm not blind,
simply have difficulty differentiating the two from each other at equal
intensity, and especially in small blocks and thus simply can't read some
texts.

Drives me bloody bonkers.

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All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

HALLELUJAH!! First time ever I've seen anyone agree it's a problem. BIG
Thank you, Ian !!

It's not only PC's, it's movies and TV too - a vogue for having red titles
over a moving background - only time I can read is as they fade (a
millisecond of black). My stats are medically correct - 48% male, 2% female
are colour-blind to some degree, the majority being red/green (which
includes all sympathetic colours, i.e. containing elements of red and
green).
On marriage, my wife quietly "lost" 2 pairs of my socks - yellow and blue
pairs, I thought. Seems they were fluorescent green and purple, and were
ghastly to everyone but me. (Was a long time ago ....) It also put paid to
my wish to go into electronics - in the days of valves(tubes) with
transistors just coming in, all resistors were colour-coded for value - end
of THAT career!

Thanks again, Len.

"Ian Hoare" wrote in message
...
Salut/Hi Colin

le/on Wed, 2 Mar 2005 09:49:26 -0700, tu disais/you said:-

I am sorry so many sites are not more thoughtfully designed. Perhaps when
Avalon debuts (probably in as little as 18 months) you will have more ways
to deal with website content and design as a consumer.

Actually, Colin, this IS quite a serious problem. Though I'd certainly not
blame you for it. I'm one of the very common red/green impaired men. The
mania for designers - not just web site, but generally - to put dark red
and
dark green together, creates really quite a serious problem. As Yabbadoo
said, I can see red and green, as in traffic lights etc, I'm not blind,
simply have difficulty differentiating the two from each other at equal
intensity, and especially in small blocks and thus simply can't read some
texts.

Drives me bloody bonkers.

--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.

I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of =
everything. I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like =
light gray on a lighter grey background).

But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact =
details. Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be =
taylored to an individual.

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http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Ken Blake" wrote in message =
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:
=20
in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors=20
were
colour-coded for value -
=20
=20
Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I=20
looked at a resistor.
=20
--=20
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup=20
=20

Tried "Accessability" options (high contrast) which are of limited help -
(drawbacks outweight the advantage). These options are for the visually
impaired, i.e poor sighted folk. I have 20/20 vision, with glasses.

"Normal" folk often fall into the semantics trap. " Colour Blind" is NOT
being blind (as in unable to see). Think more of camouflage - inability to
identify certain elements within a scene because the element colours blend
into the background.
I can see objects against a contrasting background (birds in the sky, for
example) but I can NOT tell you what colour(s) they are. Birds in trees -
much more difficult (dark against dark).
There is no cure, we are born with faulty cones (light receptors in the
eye). "Colour" is reflected light - colour sight is the ability to
identify/classify the wavelength of refelected light.
Web designers are often artists first, designers second. Those leaning
toward art tend to use colour palettes pleasing to them, without regard for
practical ease of use of their site. It is this fact which needs broader
distribution.

Sincerely, Len.

"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.

I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of everything.
I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like light gray on a
lighter grey background).

But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact details.
Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be taylored to an
individual.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Well

1. Colour blind are genetic retards. Culling the flock is always a good =
idea.

2. I can think of sooo many solutions to from overkill to minor tweaks. =
But I have to know the exact problem. Just knowing you shouuld be turned =
into glue isn't technical enough.

--=20
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"Yabbadoo" wrote in message =
...
Tried "Accessability" options (high contrast) which are of limited =
help -=20
(drawbacks outweight the advantage). These options are for the =
visually=20
impaired, i.e poor sighted folk. I have 20/20 vision, with glasses.
=20
"Normal" folk often fall into the semantics trap. " Colour Blind" is =
NOT=20
being blind (as in unable to see). Think more of camouflage - =
inability to=20
identify certain elements within a scene because the element colours =
blend=20
into the background.
I can see objects against a contrasting background (birds in the sky, =
for=20
example) but I can NOT tell you what colour(s) they are. Birds in =
trees -=20
much more difficult (dark against dark).
There is no cure, we are born with faulty cones (light receptors in =
the=20
eye). "Colour" is reflected light - colour sight is the ability to=20
identify/classify the wavelength of refelected light.
Web designers are often artists first, designers second. Those =
leaning=20
toward art tend to use colour palettes pleasing to them, without =
regard for=20
practical ease of use of their site. It is this fact which needs =
broader=20
distribution.
=20
Sincerely, Len.
=20
"David Candy" . wrote in message=20
...
If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.
=20
I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of =
everything.=20
I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like light =
gray on a=20
lighter grey background).
=20
But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact =
details.=20
Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be taylored =
to an=20
individual.
=20
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Ken Blake" wrote in message=20
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

--=20
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

=20
=20

Hi sweety,

le/on Sat, 5 Mar 2005 01:31:09 +1100, tu disais/you said:-

1. Colour blind are genetic retards. Culling the flock is always a good idea.

Incorrect. Genetic recessives, in fact. But if we're culling, I'd choose
culling arrogant pillocks like you before choosing red/green blinds like me!

As for passing colour tests, I fist discovered my colour blindness when
applying to Sizewell nuclear power station as an assistant chemist. It was
the first time I'd been tested. As I'd been working for several years as a
chemist, much of which involved making calculations whose results were
obtained from subtle colour changes (acidity, titration for calcium and
magnesium etc), I had good evidence that my theoretical colour blindness was
no problem for my work as a chemist. So I challenged the testers to match me
against any of their lab asistants in a test using the most difficult
analysis that was current, acidity in insulating oil, with a colour change
from bluish brown to reddish brown. I succeeded easily and was offered the
job.

Tests indeed. Reminds me of the definition of IQ tests.

--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

That's pretty cold.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
Well

1. Colour blind are genetic retards. Culling the flock is always a good
idea.

2. I can think of sooo many solutions to from overkill to minor tweaks. But
I have to know the exact problem. Just knowing you shouuld be turned into
glue isn't technical enough.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Yabbadoo" wrote in message
...
Tried "Accessability" options (high contrast) which are of limited help -
(drawbacks outweight the advantage). These options are for the visually
impaired, i.e poor sighted folk. I have 20/20 vision, with glasses.

"Normal" folk often fall into the semantics trap. " Colour Blind" is NOT
being blind (as in unable to see). Think more of camouflage - inability
to
identify certain elements within a scene because the element colours blend
into the background.
I can see objects against a contrasting background (birds in the sky, for
example) but I can NOT tell you what colour(s) they are. Birds in trees -
much more difficult (dark against dark).
There is no cure, we are born with faulty cones (light receptors in the
eye). "Colour" is reflected light - colour sight is the ability to
identify/classify the wavelength of refelected light.
Web designers are often artists first, designers second. Those leaning
toward art tend to use colour palettes pleasing to them, without regard
for
practical ease of use of their site. It is this fact which needs broader
distribution.

Sincerely, Len.

"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.

I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of everything.
I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like light gray on
a
lighter grey background).

But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact
details.
Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be taylored to
an
individual.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

They never say the exact problem they have.



--=20
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http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message =
...
That's pretty cold.
=20
--=20
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"David Candy" . wrote in message=20
...
Well
=20
1. Colour blind are genetic retards. Culling the flock is always a =
good=20
idea.
=20
2. I can think of sooo many solutions to from overkill to minor =
tweaks. But=20
I have to know the exact problem. Just knowing you shouuld be turned =
into=20
glue isn't technical enough.
=20
--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Yabbadoo" wrote in message=20
...
Tried "Accessability" options (high contrast) which are of limited =
help -
(drawbacks outweight the advantage). These options are for the =
visually
impaired, i.e poor sighted folk. I have 20/20 vision, with glasses.

"Normal" folk often fall into the semantics trap. " Colour Blind" is =
NOT
being blind (as in unable to see). Think more of camouflage - =
inability=20
to
identify certain elements within a scene because the element colours =
blend
into the background.
I can see objects against a contrasting background (birds in the sky, =
for
example) but I can NOT tell you what colour(s) they are. Birds in =
trees -
much more difficult (dark against dark).
There is no cure, we are born with faulty cones (light receptors in =
the
eye). "Colour" is reflected light - colour sight is the ability to
identify/classify the wavelength of refelected light.
Web designers are often artists first, designers second. Those =
leaning
toward art tend to use colour palettes pleasing to them, without =
regard=20
for
practical ease of use of their site. It is this fact which needs =
broader
distribution.

Sincerely, Len.

"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.

I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of =
everything.
I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like light =
gray on=20
a
lighter grey background).

But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact=20
details.
Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be taylored =
to=20
an
individual.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

--=20
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup



=20
=20

And it will never change. Flaming just makes people defensive or angry and
unwilling to learn new things.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
They never say the exact problem they have.



--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
That's pretty cold.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
Well

1. Colour blind are genetic retards. Culling the flock is always a good
idea.

2. I can think of sooo many solutions to from overkill to minor tweaks.
But
I have to know the exact problem. Just knowing you shouuld be turned into
glue isn't technical enough.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Yabbadoo" wrote in message
...
Tried "Accessability" options (high contrast) which are of limited help -
(drawbacks outweight the advantage). These options are for the visually
impaired, i.e poor sighted folk. I have 20/20 vision, with glasses.

"Normal" folk often fall into the semantics trap. " Colour Blind" is NOT
being blind (as in unable to see). Think more of camouflage - inability
to
identify certain elements within a scene because the element colours
blend
into the background.
I can see objects against a contrasting background (birds in the sky, for
example) but I can NOT tell you what colour(s) they are. Birds in
trees -
much more difficult (dark against dark).
There is no cure, we are born with faulty cones (light receptors in the
eye). "Colour" is reflected light - colour sight is the ability to
identify/classify the wavelength of refelected light.
Web designers are often artists first, designers second. Those leaning
toward art tend to use colour palettes pleasing to them, without regard
for
practical ease of use of their site. It is this fact which needs
broader
distribution.

Sincerely, Len.

"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.

I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of
everything.
I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like light gray
on
a
lighter grey background).

But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact
details.
Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be taylored to
an
individual.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Salut/Hi David Candy,

le/on Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:59:27 +1100, tu disais/you said:-

They never say the exact problem they have.

So try asking them in a civilised manner.

--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

Once I agreed with you (and colin). But now MS has the ability to force =
structure on the web interface.

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"Ian Hoare" wrote in message =
...
Salut/Hi David Candy,=20
=20
le/on Sat, 5 Mar 2005 13:59:27 +1100, tu disais/you said:-
=20
They never say the exact problem they have.
=20
So try asking them in a civilised manner.
=20
--=20
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

The original post was clearly phrased and has been partly answered (a
"workaround" suggeseted by Sharon, bless her). I had hoped for a "regedit"
answer. Colour-blindness was an OT side-issue, initially discussed sensibly
with a stated aim of promoting better understanding for web-design
..
History tells us that Hitler (with his perception of race purity, and
promulgation of the "Final Solution" to purify the Aryan race) was sterile.
Given Candy's view that Colour-Blind people should be similarly
exterminated, clearly the Austrian family genes were perpetuated, and
evolved into an even more virulent form. Hopefully he too is sterile, else
anyone with any disabilty whatever is in danger, should his views reach a
wider audience.

As an enthusiastic 62 year-old, a Master's degree in the University of Life,
and an IQ 120, I see this newsgroup as one of the best. By and large, even
novice queries are handled sympathetically and answers given in good spirit.
I am appalled, incensed and disgusted with Candy's rhetoric. FLAMING? - the
bloody fool hasn't even the wit to understand what he reads. Where exactly
is the open question ("never say the exact problem they have?")
1/ Topic - search function - answered (at least in part)
2/ OT -Problems with colour - not a question, a statement. Being
pig-ignorant, he equates that with being blind.

He should take his prejudices into oblivion, not into newsgroups.

YES, I'm bloody INCANDESCENT with rage!

Sincerely, Len.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
And it will never change. Flaming just makes people defensive or angry
and unwilling to learn new things.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
They never say the exact problem they have.



--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message
...
That's pretty cold.

--
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
Well

1. Colour blind are genetic retards. Culling the flock is always a good
idea.

2. I can think of sooo many solutions to from overkill to minor tweaks.
But
I have to know the exact problem. Just knowing you shouuld be turned into
glue isn't technical enough.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Yabbadoo" wrote in message
...
Tried "Accessability" options (high contrast) which are of limited
help -
(drawbacks outweight the advantage). These options are for the visually
impaired, i.e poor sighted folk. I have 20/20 vision, with glasses.

"Normal" folk often fall into the semantics trap. " Colour Blind" is NOT
being blind (as in unable to see). Think more of camouflage - inability
to
identify certain elements within a scene because the element colours
blend
into the background.
I can see objects against a contrasting background (birds in the sky,
for
example) but I can NOT tell you what colour(s) they are. Birds in
trees -
much more difficult (dark against dark).
There is no cure, we are born with faulty cones (light receptors in the
eye). "Colour" is reflected light - colour sight is the ability to
identify/classify the wavelength of refelected light.
Web designers are often artists first, designers second. Those leaning
toward art tend to use colour palettes pleasing to them, without regard
for
practical ease of use of their site. It is this fact which needs
broader
distribution.

Sincerely, Len.

"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.

I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of
everything.
I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like light gray
on
a
lighter grey background).

But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact
details.
Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be taylored to
an
individual.

--
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Well I know lots of tricks as I can see virtually nothing on a computer =
screen at factory settings. I have a magnifing glass for my own use (on =
the 8pt hard coded dialogs). And I'm sure I written a suite of programs =
for us old people to make web browsing easy.

But most of you are too stupid to use them. Hitler had a point.

PS: Forget the 6 million whinging jews (though I'd be sent to the camps =
for that anyway), I relate to the other 5 million people sent to the =
camps as I fall in most categories except homosexuality and Gypsies. But =
everyone assumes I'm a homosexual anyway so that won't protect me.=20

Why do I get bashed and discrimated against because people believe I'm a =
homosexual. Because I believe denying that I am one is actually saying =
"it's ok to bash gays". Though after a few bashings I act overtly =
heterosexual for self protection. But I take after St Paul so I'm =
celibate.

--=20
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http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Yabbadoo" wrote in message =
...
The original post was clearly phrased and has been partly answered (a=20
"workaround" suggeseted by Sharon, bless her). I had hoped for a =
"regedit"=20
answer. Colour-blindness was an OT side-issue, initially discussed =
sensibly=20
with a stated aim of promoting better understanding for web-design
.
History tells us that Hitler (with his perception of race purity, and=20
promulgation of the "Final Solution" to purify the Aryan race) was =
sterile.=20
Given Candy's view that Colour-Blind people should be similarly=20
exterminated, clearly the Austrian family genes were perpetuated, and=20
evolved into an even more virulent form. Hopefully he too is sterile, =
else=20
anyone with any disabilty whatever is in danger, should his views =
reach a=20
wider audience.
=20
As an enthusiastic 62 year-old, a Master's degree in the University of =
Life,=20
and an IQ 120, I see this newsgroup as one of the best. By and large, =
even=20
novice queries are handled sympathetically and answers given in good =
spirit.=20
I am appalled, incensed and disgusted with Candy's rhetoric. FLAMING? =
- the=20
bloody fool hasn't even the wit to understand what he reads. Where =
exactly=20
is the open question ("never say the exact problem they have?")
1/ Topic - search function - answered (at least in part)
2/ OT -Problems with colour - not a question, a statement. Being=20
pig-ignorant, he equates that with being blind.
=20
He should take his prejudices into oblivion, not into newsgroups.
=20
YES, I'm bloody INCANDESCENT with rage!
=20
Sincerely, Len.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message=20
...
And it will never change. Flaming just makes people defensive or =
angry=20
and unwilling to learn new things.

--=20
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"David Candy" . wrote in message=20
...
They never say the exact problem they have.



--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message=20
...
That's pretty cold.

--=20
Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine]
(Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested)
"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
Well

1. Colour blind are genetic retards. Culling the flock is always a =
good
idea.

2. I can think of sooo many solutions to from overkill to minor =
tweaks.=20
But
I have to know the exact problem. Just knowing you shouuld be turned =
into
glue isn't technical enough.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
http://www.microscum.com/mscommunity/
"Yabbadoo" wrote in message
...
Tried "Accessability" options (high contrast) which are of limited=20
help -
(drawbacks outweight the advantage). These options are for the =
visually
impaired, i.e poor sighted folk. I have 20/20 vision, with glasses.

"Normal" folk often fall into the semantics trap. " Colour Blind" =
is NOT
being blind (as in unable to see). Think more of camouflage - =
inability
to
identify certain elements within a scene because the element =
colours=20
blend
into the background.
I can see objects against a contrasting background (birds in the =
sky,=20
for
example) but I can NOT tell you what colour(s) they are. Birds in=20
trees -
much more difficult (dark against dark).
There is no cure, we are born with faulty cones (light receptors in =
the
eye). "Colour" is reflected light - colour sight is the ability to
identify/classify the wavelength of refelected light.
Web designers are often artists first, designers second. Those =
leaning
toward art tend to use colour palettes pleasing to them, without =
regard
for
practical ease of use of their site. It is this fact which needs=20
broader
distribution.

Sincerely, Len.

"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.

I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of=20
everything.
I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like light =
gray=20
on
a
lighter grey background).

But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact
details.
Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be =
taylored to
an
individual.

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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

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And if we are going to go on like this.

1. I'm terminally ill. Though I've made 25 years and fingers are still =
crossed old age will take me before my extremely painfull illness does.
2. I was born with genetic defects (though surgically corrected at 5 =
months old)
3. I'm disabled


But I'm not stupid like you.
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"David Candy" . wrote in message =
...
Well I know lots of tricks as I can see virtually nothing on a computer =
screen at factory settings. I have a magnifing glass for my own use (on =
the 8pt hard coded dialogs). And I'm sure I written a suite of programs =
for us old people to make web browsing easy.

But most of you are too stupid to use them. Hitler had a point.

PS: Forget the 6 million whinging jews (though I'd be sent to the camps =
for that anyway), I relate to the other 5 million people sent to the =
camps as I fall in most categories except homosexuality and Gypsies. But =
everyone assumes I'm a homosexual anyway so that won't protect me.=20

Why do I get bashed and discrimated against because people believe I'm a =
homosexual. Because I believe denying that I am one is actually saying =
"it's ok to bash gays". Though after a few bashings I act overtly =
heterosexual for self protection. But I take after St Paul so I'm =
celibate.

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"Yabbadoo" wrote in message =
...
The original post was clearly phrased and has been partly answered (a=20
"workaround" suggeseted by Sharon, bless her). I had hoped for a =
"regedit"=20
answer. Colour-blindness was an OT side-issue, initially discussed =
sensibly=20
with a stated aim of promoting better understanding for web-design
.
History tells us that Hitler (with his perception of race purity, and=20
promulgation of the "Final Solution" to purify the Aryan race) was =
sterile.=20
Given Candy's view that Colour-Blind people should be similarly=20
exterminated, clearly the Austrian family genes were perpetuated, and=20
evolved into an even more virulent form. Hopefully he too is sterile, =
else=20
anyone with any disabilty whatever is in danger, should his views =
reach a=20
wider audience.
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As an enthusiastic 62 year-old, a Master's degree in the University of =
Life,=20
and an IQ 120, I see this newsgroup as one of the best. By and large, =
even=20
novice queries are handled sympathetically and answers given in good =
spirit.=20
I am appalled, incensed and disgusted with Candy's rhetoric. FLAMING? =
- the=20
bloody fool hasn't even the wit to understand what he reads. Where =
exactly=20
is the open question ("never say the exact problem they have?")
1/ Topic - search function - answered (at least in part)
2/ OT -Problems with colour - not a question, a statement. Being=20
pig-ignorant, he equates that with being blind.
=20
He should take his prejudices into oblivion, not into newsgroups.
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YES, I'm bloody INCANDESCENT with rage!
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Sincerely, Len.
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message=20
...
And it will never change. Flaming just makes people defensive or =
angry=20
and unwilling to learn new things.

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"David Candy" . wrote in message=20
...
They never say the exact problem they have.



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"Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message=20
...
That's pretty cold.

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"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
Well

1. Colour blind are genetic retards. Culling the flock is always a =
good
idea.

2. I can think of sooo many solutions to from overkill to minor =
tweaks.=20
But
I have to know the exact problem. Just knowing you shouuld be turned =
into
glue isn't technical enough.

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"Yabbadoo" wrote in message
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Tried "Accessability" options (high contrast) which are of limited=20
help -
(drawbacks outweight the advantage). These options are for the =
visually
impaired, i.e poor sighted folk. I have 20/20 vision, with glasses.

"Normal" folk often fall into the semantics trap. " Colour Blind" =
is NOT
being blind (as in unable to see). Think more of camouflage - =
inability
to
identify certain elements within a scene because the element =
colours=20
blend
into the background.
I can see objects against a contrasting background (birds in the =
sky,=20
for
example) but I can NOT tell you what colour(s) they are. Birds in=20
trees -
much more difficult (dark against dark).
There is no cure, we are born with faulty cones (light receptors in =
the
eye). "Colour" is reflected light - colour sight is the ability to
identify/classify the wavelength of refelected light.
Web designers are often artists first, designers second. Those =
leaning
toward art tend to use colour palettes pleasing to them, without =
regard
for
practical ease of use of their site. It is this fact which needs=20
broader
distribution.

Sincerely, Len.

"David Candy" . wrote in message
...
If we didn't pass colour tests then we didn't get jobs.

I press Ctrl + A to select the page that changes the colour of=20
everything.
I'm not colour blind but I still need sensible colours (like light =
gray=20
on
a
lighter grey background).

But I can show you ways of doing this and that if I know the exact
details.
Plus Accessability can override graphic designers and can be =
taylored to
an
individual.

--=20
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"Ken Blake" wrote in message
...
In ,
Yabbadoo typed:

in the days of
valves(tubes) with transistors just coming in, all resistors
were
colour-coded for value -


Is that no longer true? I guess it's been a long time since I
looked at a resistor.

--=20
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Please reply to the newsgroup







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