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About Acronis True Image
A couple of months ago I bought and installed True Image 11 Home, and
anxious to take advantage of its services I mistakenly (okay, stupidly) asked it to save its backup on my unpartitioned C-disk hard drive. Now, of course, in the event of a catastrophic disk crash I can't get to the backup because it's on the damaged disk. I sought to correct my error by purchasing a 500 GB external disk which I shall designate to contain the backup file(s). I have written to Acronis but never received an answer. Can I delete the True Image backup file, uninstall True Image, reinstall True Image, this time telling it where to create and save backups? Or am I overlooking something critical? Is there a more straightforward way to move the backup file to the external disk? Thanks, Ken Bland |
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About Acronis True Image
Justin Thyme wrote:
A couple of months ago I bought and installed True Image 11 Home, and anxious to take advantage of its services I mistakenly (okay, stupidly) asked it to save its backup on my unpartitioned C-disk hard drive. Now, of course, in the event of a catastrophic disk crash I can't get to the backup because it's on the damaged disk. I sought to correct my error by purchasing a 500 GB external disk which I shall designate to contain the backup file(s). I have written to Acronis but never received an answer. Can I delete the True Image backup file, uninstall True Image, reinstall True Image, this time telling it where to create and save backups? Or am I overlooking something critical? Is there a more straightforward way to move the backup file to the external disk? Thanks, Ken Bland So are you talking about using their Secure Zone? That goes into a partition, NOT in unpartitioned disk space. Drive letters can only be assigned to partitions, not to unpartitioned space, so what did "C-disk" have to do with your problem? Did it mean you are using the Secure Zone in a hidden partition (which is NOT unpartitioned space) on the same hard disk as where is the partition for the operating system? Impossible to know what is your setup when you don't describe it. If you want to save the backups in the Secure Zone, restore its contents to an alternate location, delete the Secure Zone, create a new one on the external disk, and backup the alternate location to the Secure Zone you just created on the external disk. If you aren't using the Secure Zone then the backup location is just a folder, so copy the folder over to the external hard disk. Thereafter specify that further backups go to the external hard disk. Of course, if the external hard disk catastrophically fails then you lose your backups there, too. Acronis has their own forums at: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=65. |
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About Acronis True Image
"Justin Thyme" wrote in message ... A couple of months ago I bought and installed True Image 11 Home, and anxious to take advantage of its services I mistakenly (okay, stupidly) asked it to save its backup on my unpartitioned C-disk hard drive. Now, of course, in the event of a catastrophic disk crash I can't get to the backup because it's on the damaged disk. I sought to correct my error by purchasing a 500 GB external disk which I shall designate to contain the backup file(s). I have written to Acronis but never received an answer. Can I delete the True Image backup file, uninstall True Image, reinstall True Image, this time telling it where to create and save backups? Or am I overlooking something critical? Is there a more straightforward way to move the backup file to the external disk? Thanks, Ken Bland No, you do not need to remove ATI just to change the backup location. That comes under the general heading of using a pile driver to crack a peanut. Create a backup location on the new drive. Copy the backup files from the old location to the new location. You edit the procedure which performs the backup to use the new location. Jim |
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About Acronis True Image
"Justin Thyme" wrote:
A couple of months ago I bought and installed True Image 11 Home, and anxious to take advantage of its services I mistakenly (okay, stupidly) asked it to save its backup on my unpartitioned C-disk hard drive. Now, of course, in the event of a catastrophic disk crash I can't get to the backup because it's on the damaged disk. I sought to correct my error by purchasing a 500 GB external disk which I shall designate to contain the backup file(s). I have written to Acronis but never received an answer. Can I delete the True Image backup file, uninstall True Image, reinstall True Image, this time telling it where to create and save backups? Or am I overlooking something critical? Is there a more straightforward way to move the backup file to the external disk? Thanks, Just copy the backup file. You can respecify where you want the backup when you take it. I would just take a new backup to the external drive and delete the one on the C drive. Ken Bland -- Jim Rusling More or Less Retired Mustang, OK http://www.rusling.org |
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About Acronis True Image
I am having a hard time getting a clear picture of your PC's
disks/paritions. Most PC's have a single C:\ partition, which includes the operating system, programs, and user data. This C: partition uses 100% (or nearly 100%) of the space on the primary (possibly the only) internal hard drive. This is not a good organization strategy, but very common for name-brand PCs. Additionally, many PCs come with a small hidden partition, that contains an image of the C:\ drive. This can be used to restore the PC to the say you bought it. Contact the PC maker for mote info on how to do this. But, realize that "restore" to a pC maker means (1) destroy all user data, (2) restore what came with the PC. Most users do not really want to do this after they have owned the PC for a while. However, it is possible to have multiple internal hard drives and multiple partitions on each, as well as multiple operating systems. Think about which you have, or want to have, then read on. I have been using True Image for years under 98 and XP. Its images are files that end in ".tib". These can be a single large file, or a set of seqeunced smaller files. That is the user's choice. But, in any event these are ordinary files, and thus can be copied/moved, just like another files. If you want them on an external hard drive (good idea), just copy&paste, then remove the copy on the internal drive. You could cut&paste, but I always perfer to be sure that the copy works, before I delete files. As for future usages of True Image, do NOT use the so-called "secure zone". While better than nothing, if the internal drive dies, you lose everything. Instead, do a normal "create image". Select what you want to backup (probably C, and where you want to write the image (probably an external disk), and what size chunks (200MB to 650MB will be more tractable than one big file). Then, do it. Note that if you create an extra partition on the internal hard drive (e.g., via Acronis Disk Director), think about separating your personal files (DOC, XLS, JPG, MP3, AVI, etc) from the operating system and programs. Then, the backup will go faster, and a restore will, too. You do not need to use True Image to backup personal data files. A simple copy&paste will suffice. Further, you might want to backup personal files everyday, at least any new ones. In contrast, backup the operating system and programs less often, only before (and maybe after) changes, includingh those monthly XP updates. Use True Image for the OS+programs, since it can backup even locked files. Note that there is no reason to backup pagefile.sys or hiberfil.sys, since XP will re-create these when it turns on. Note that backup speed is slower for external USB 2.0 than for internal SATA. However, the speed should be about the same for external eSATA as for internal SATA. If you are using USB 2.0, then you might want to consider an internal "scratch" partition for short-term backups, such as just prior to an install/uninstall/update. In the event things go wrong, you can very rapidly do a restore. Note that most PC problems I have encountered were the result of bad installs/uninstalls, not viruses, not hardware failures. Still, I would not recommend having all backup images on the internal drive, since other things can go wrong. Finally, the external hard drive is only safe from viruses and power surges, if most of the time it is not connected to the PC and is off. "Justin Thyme" wrote in message ... A couple of months ago I bought and installed True Image 11 Home, and anxious to take advantage of its services I mistakenly (okay, stupidly) asked it to save its backup on my unpartitioned C-disk hard drive. Now, of course, in the event of a catastrophic disk crash I can't get to the backup because it's on the damaged disk. I sought to correct my error by purchasing a 500 GB external disk which I shall designate to contain the backup file(s). I have written to Acronis but never received an answer. Can I delete the True Image backup file, uninstall True Image, reinstall True Image, this time telling it where to create and save backups? Or am I overlooking something critical? Is there a more straightforward way to move the backup file to the external disk? Thanks, Ken Bland |
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About Acronis True Image
Comment at the bottom.
"Bob Harris" wrote in message ... I am having a hard time getting a clear picture of your PC's disks/paritions. Most PC's have a single C:\ partition, which includes the operating system, programs, and user data. This C: partition uses 100% (or nearly 100%) of the space on the primary (possibly the only) internal hard drive. This is not a good organization strategy, but very common for name-brand PCs. Additionally, many PCs come with a small hidden partition, that contains an image of the C:\ drive. This can be used to restore the PC to the say you bought it. Contact the PC maker for mote info on how to do this. But, realize that "restore" to a pC maker means (1) destroy all user data, (2) restore what came with the PC. Most users do not really want to do this after they have owned the PC for a while. However, it is possible to have multiple internal hard drives and multiple partitions on each, as well as multiple operating systems. Think about which you have, or want to have, then read on. I have been using True Image for years under 98 and XP. Its images are files that end in ".tib". These can be a single large file, or a set of seqeunced smaller files. That is the user's choice. But, in any event these are ordinary files, and thus can be copied/moved, just like another files. If you want them on an external hard drive (good idea), just copy&paste, then remove the copy on the internal drive. You could cut&paste, but I always perfer to be sure that the copy works, before I delete files. As for future usages of True Image, do NOT use the so-called "secure zone". While better than nothing, if the internal drive dies, you lose everything. Instead, do a normal "create image". Select what you want to backup (probably C, and where you want to write the image (probably an external disk), and what size chunks (200MB to 650MB will be more tractable than one big file). Then, do it. Note that if you create an extra partition on the internal hard drive (e.g., via Acronis Disk Director), think about separating your personal files (DOC, XLS, JPG, MP3, AVI, etc) from the operating system and programs. Then, the backup will go faster, and a restore will, too. You do not need to use True Image to backup personal data files. A simple copy&paste will suffice. Further, you might want to backup personal files everyday, at least any new ones. In contrast, backup the operating system and programs less often, only before (and maybe after) changes, includingh those monthly XP updates. Use True Image for the OS+programs, since it can backup even locked files. Note that there is no reason to backup pagefile.sys or hiberfil.sys, since XP will re-create these when it turns on. Note that backup speed is slower for external USB 2.0 than for internal SATA. However, the speed should be about the same for external eSATA as for internal SATA. If you are using USB 2.0, then you might want to consider an internal "scratch" partition for short-term backups, such as just prior to an install/uninstall/update. In the event things go wrong, you can very rapidly do a restore. Note that most PC problems I have encountered were the result of bad installs/uninstalls, not viruses, not hardware failures. Still, I would not recommend having all backup images on the internal drive, since other things can go wrong. Finally, the external hard drive is only safe from viruses and power surges, if most of the time it is not connected to the PC and is off. Thank you, Bob. Obviously I was not as clear and/or explicit as I might have been. Let's see if I can do better. I only mentioned "partitioned" because I have not partitioned my C-drive. I was not interested in backing up any separate portion of the C-drive. Finding myself getting more and more confused, I decided to start all over again. I deleted the complete Acronis backup on the C-drive (where it never should have been in the first place). Next, I did an uninstall of Acronis True Image 11. Put in the original Acronis TI CD and turned it loose. Designated the target disk for backup storage (the 500GB external hard drive). Backed up the entire contents of the C-drive to the 500GB E-drive. Things went smoothly and I got "success" responses all along the way. I ran out of time at that point and I do not know yet how to perform incremental backups of data that changes on the C-disk. Surely the manual covers that action somewhere. Thanks again. Ken Bland |
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About Acronis True Image
"Justin Thyme" wrote in message ... Comment at the bottom. "Bob Harris" wrote in message ... I am having a hard time getting a clear picture of your PC's disks/paritions. Most PC's have a single C:\ partition, which includes the operating system, programs, and user data. This C: partition uses 100% (or nearly 100%) of the space on the primary (possibly the only) internal hard drive. This is not a good organization strategy, but very common for name-brand PCs. Additionally, many PCs come with a small hidden partition, that contains an image of the C:\ drive. This can be used to restore the PC to the say you bought it. Contact the PC maker for mote info on how to do this. But, realize that "restore" to a pC maker means (1) destroy all user data, (2) restore what came with the PC. Most users do not really want to do this after they have owned the PC for a while. However, it is possible to have multiple internal hard drives and multiple partitions on each, as well as multiple operating systems. Think about which you have, or want to have, then read on. I have been using True Image for years under 98 and XP. Its images are files that end in ".tib". These can be a single large file, or a set of seqeunced smaller files. That is the user's choice. But, in any event these are ordinary files, and thus can be copied/moved, just like another files. If you want them on an external hard drive (good idea), just copy&paste, then remove the copy on the internal drive. You could cut&paste, but I always perfer to be sure that the copy works, before I delete files. As for future usages of True Image, do NOT use the so-called "secure zone". While better than nothing, if the internal drive dies, you lose everything. Instead, do a normal "create image". Select what you want to backup (probably C, and where you want to write the image (probably an external disk), and what size chunks (200MB to 650MB will be more tractable than one big file). Then, do it. Note that if you create an extra partition on the internal hard drive (e.g., via Acronis Disk Director), think about separating your personal files (DOC, XLS, JPG, MP3, AVI, etc) from the operating system and programs. Then, the backup will go faster, and a restore will, too. You do not need to use True Image to backup personal data files. A simple copy&paste will suffice. Further, you might want to backup personal files everyday, at least any new ones. In contrast, backup the operating system and programs less often, only before (and maybe after) changes, includingh those monthly XP updates. Use True Image for the OS+programs, since it can backup even locked files. Note that there is no reason to backup pagefile.sys or hiberfil.sys, since XP will re-create these when it turns on. Note that backup speed is slower for external USB 2.0 than for internal SATA. However, the speed should be about the same for external eSATA as for internal SATA. If you are using USB 2.0, then you might want to consider an internal "scratch" partition for short-term backups, such as just prior to an install/uninstall/update. In the event things go wrong, you can very rapidly do a restore. Note that most PC problems I have encountered were the result of bad installs/uninstalls, not viruses, not hardware failures. Still, I would not recommend having all backup images on the internal drive, since other things can go wrong. Finally, the external hard drive is only safe from viruses and power surges, if most of the time it is not connected to the PC and is off. Thank you, Bob. Obviously I was not as clear and/or explicit as I might have been. Let's see if I can do better. I only mentioned "partitioned" because I have not partitioned my C-drive. I was not interested in backing up any separate portion of the C-drive. Finding myself getting more and more confused, I decided to start all over again. I deleted the complete Acronis backup on the C-drive (where it never should have been in the first place). Next, I did an uninstall of Acronis True Image 11. Put in the original Acronis TI CD and turned it loose. Designated the target disk for backup storage (the 500GB external hard drive). Backed up the entire contents of the C-drive to the 500GB E-drive. Things went smoothly and I got "success" responses all along the way. I ran out of time at that point and I do not know yet how to perform incremental backups of data that changes on the C-disk. Surely the manual covers that action somewhere. Thanks again. Ken Bland Yes, the manual certainly does contain a description of how to make both incremental and differential backups... Now, if I only had my copy of the manual handy, I could tell you. However, if you use the wizard to construct the batch file which creates the backup (full, incremental, or differential), it is hard to miss the place where the wizard asks you what kind of backup you want it to make. Only you know the answer to this question. You definitely should make you full backups include all partitions because if, for some reason, the partition which contains the bootstrap code is missing, you won't create a bootable disk without further work. An incremental backup contains only those changes made since the last backup. A differential backup contains those changes made since the last full backup. There is less chance of making a mistake by performing differential backups because a full restore only requires loading two backup files. Jim |
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