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I need to install a new motherboard on a machine with XP sp2 and all current updates. The existing mb is Gigabyte and I would prefer to replace with Asus and a much faster chip.
What steps should I take in XP to avoid having to reinstall, reactivate, etc.? It seems to me that there are drivers related specifically to the mb and that they should be removed or there will be a conflict. Thanks for any suggestions. |
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The motherboard plays a large role in the activation scheme so you may very
well have to reactivate. Don't worry about that. It is easily done over the internet, especially if you have made no other changes to your system in the last 120 days. If you need to activate by phone, the activation process will tell you what to do. You should back up your system fully. You may have to do a repair installation (install in place). See and print out ahead of time: http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;315341 -- Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) "drblbaker" wrote in message ... I need to install a new motherboard on a machine with XP sp2 and all current updates. The existing mb is Gigabyte and I would prefer to replace with Asus and a much faster chip. What steps should I take in XP to avoid having to reinstall, reactivate, etc.? It seems to me that there are drivers related specifically to the mb and that they should be removed or there will be a conflict. Thanks for any suggestions. -- drblbaker |
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It seems like in ealier versions of Windows I deleted sections that dealt with the motherboard and then at restart, it just detected the new hardware and restarted once or twice.
Isn't there a simple way to still do this? Not really worried about reactivationg I guess. REALLY don't want to go the repair route. Probably means reinstalling programs, data settings etc, etc etc. Thanks again Bruce Quote:
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drblbaker wrote:
I need to install a new motherboard on a machine with XP sp2 and all current updates. The existing mb is Gigabyte and I would prefer to replace with Asus and a much faster chip. What steps should I take in XP to avoid having to reinstall, reactivate, etc.? It seems to me that there are drivers related specifically to the mb and that they should be removed or there will be a conflict. Thanks for any suggestions. Normally, and assuming a retail license (many OEM installations and licenses are not transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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You are so likely to have to do a repair install that you might as well
prepare for it ahead of time. Repair install will not disturb settings, files, programs, etc. You will have to reinstall updates and patches. Do you have SP2 installed? If so, you need to create a slipstreamed copy of XP + SP2 before you swap out the mobo. Use autostreamer to make the slipstreamed cd http://www.autopatcher.com/autostreamer.html Instructions for doing a repair install http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;315341 -- Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) "drblbaker" wrote in message ... It seems like in ealier versions of Windows I deleted sections that dealt with the motherboard and then at restart, it just detected the new hardware and restarted once or twice. Isn't there a simple way to still do this? Not really worried about reactivationg I guess. REALLY don't want to go the repair route. Probably means reinstalling programs, data settings etc, etc etc. Thanks again Bruce Colin Barnhorst Wrote: The motherboard plays a large role in the activation scheme so you may very well have to reactivate. Don't worry about that. It is easily done over the internet, especially if you have made no other changes to your system in the last 120 days. If you need to activate by phone, the activation process will tell you what to do. You should back up your system fully. You may have to do a repair installation (install in place). See and out ahead of time: http://tinyurl.com/2zgk -- Colin Barnhorst [MVP Windows - Virtual Machine] (Reply to the group only unless otherwise requested) "drblbaker" wrote in message ...- I need to install a new motherboard on a machine with XP sp2 and all current updates. The existing mb is Gigabyte and I would prefer to replace with Asus and a much faster chip. What steps should I take in XP to avoid having to reinstall, reactivate, etc.? It seems to me that there are drivers related specifically to the mb and that they should be removed or there will be a conflict. Thanks for any suggestions. -- drblbaker- -- drblbaker |
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Could it be that the answer you are looking for is to go to the Device
Manager and delete/uninstall all the entries that are under System Devices (basically, anything that has to do with the mb and that is not an add-on card or device)? This has worked for me and others I know, and though it is a bit tedious it is better than a reinstall of any kind -- Cheers, Alphonse. "drblbaker" wrote in message ... I need to install a new motherboard on a machine with XP sp2 and all current updates. The existing mb is Gigabyte and I would prefer to replace with Asus and a much faster chip. What steps should I take in XP to avoid having to reinstall, reactivate, etc.? It seems to me that there are drivers related specifically to the mb and that they should be removed or there will be a conflict. Thanks for any suggestions. -- drblbaker |
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-- johnf Could it be that the answer you are looking for is to go to the Device Manager and delete/uninstall all the entries that are under System Devices (basically, anything that has to do with the mb and that is not an add-on card or device)? This has worked for me and others I know, and though it is a bit tedious it is better than a reinstall of any kind -- Cheers, Alphonse. "drblbaker" wrote in message ... I need to install a new motherboard on a machine with XP sp2 and all current updates. The existing mb is Gigabyte and I would prefer to replace with Asus and a much faster chip. What steps should I take in XP to avoid having to reinstall, reactivate, etc.? It seems to me that there are drivers related specifically to the mb and that they should be removed or there will be a conflict. Thanks for any suggestions. -- drblbaker |
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drblbaker wrote:
It seems like in ealier versions of Windows I deleted sections that dealt with the motherboard and then at restart, it just detected the new hardware and restarted once or twice. WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. Isn't there a simple way to still do this? Not reliably, no. Normally, and assuming a retail license (many OEM installations and licenses are not transferable to a new motherboard - check yours before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical (same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least: How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341 The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point. You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any important data before starting. This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than 120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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explain? a plain No doesn't cut it, specially since johnf does not seem to
be drblbaker. "johnf" wrote in message ... No -- johnf Could it be that the answer you are looking for is to go to the Device Manager and delete/uninstall all the entries that are under System Devices (basically, anything that has to do with the mb and that is not an add-on card or device)? This has worked for me and others I know, and though it is a bit tedious it is better than a reinstall of any kind -- Cheers, Alphonse. "drblbaker" wrote in message ... I need to install a new motherboard on a machine with XP sp2 and all current updates. The existing mb is Gigabyte and I would prefer to replace with Asus and a much faster chip. What steps should I take in XP to avoid having to reinstall, reactivate, etc.? It seems to me that there are drivers related specifically to the mb and that they should be removed or there will be a conflict. Thanks for any suggestions. -- drblbaker |
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Alphonse wrote:
explain? a plain No doesn't cut it, specially since johnf does not seem to be drblbaker. "No" is pretty much all that's necessary, really. The technique described had a fairly good success rate when dealing with older, more primitive, and less "particular" operating systems, such as Win9x. With Win2K and WinXP, however, the use that technique has very little chance of resulting in a stable OS. WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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Thank you for the explanation... I'll buy it, being "the use [of] that
technique has very little chance of resulting in a stable OS" what caught my eye, so I guess I have been lucky so far. I will count my blessings, as they say, this time and not do it again. -- Cheers, Alphonse "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... Alphonse wrote: explain? a plain No doesn't cut it, specially since johnf does not seem to be drblbaker. "No" is pretty much all that's necessary, really. The technique described had a fairly good success rate when dealing with older, more primitive, and less "particular" operating systems, such as Win9x. With Win2K and WinXP, however, the use that technique has very little chance of resulting in a stable OS. WinXP, like Win2K before it, is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it "tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable than the Win9x group. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once. - RAH |
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