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  #16  
Old June 11th 08, 06:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 11, 4:40*am, Barb Bowman wrote:
change the SSID name from the default. it is possible that someone
else has the same MN700 and uses the default SSID in range depending
on where you live and depending, this can create havoc. are you
using WPA security?

all other things aside, the wireless in the printer should not be
constantly (every one or two seconds) communicating with the
computers. Are there other devices on the network besides the
printer and the two computers you mention ?

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

The SSID is broadcast and it uses the default name (at least I think
its the default name. *I've been using it for over 2 years). *The IP
assigned to the printer is 192.168.2.102. *The IP for the two
computers affected by the excess transmissions are 192.168.2.103 and
192.168.2.119. *The range of addresses the router can allocate is
192.168.2.2 to .254. *All computers can see the printer through the
router via the "ping" command. *The lease time for IP addresses is two
weeks, as I thought.


--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


I am using WEP security on the network. There are no other networks
in my area with the same name as mine. I have used Netstumbler to see
what is out there. Although there are quite a few other networks out
there in my neighbourhood, all go by a different name. I assume a
network that does not broadcast its name would also show up, but
without an allocated name. I have also selected a channel away from
the majority of channels in use by these other networks.

I have two other computers on this network. One is a Mac Laptop and
the other is Windows XP machine. I have installed the printer on the
Mac but not on the other computer. I cannot see the transmissions on
the Mac in the same fashion I can on the other two computers so I
can't tell if it is receiving these constant transmissions from the
printer. The sole computer I do not have the printer software on does
not have these constant wireless transmissions ongoing. This constant
transmission is only there when the printer's radio is on.

Another odd thing that happens - when either of the computers that
have the printer software installed is booting up (and both seem to
take a long time to boot), I cannot access the internet until the
installed printer software completely initializes.

Thanks.

Doug
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  #17  
Old June 11th 08, 06:31 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Lem
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Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

DGD wrote:
On Jun 11, 4:40 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
change the SSID name from the default. it is possible that someone
else has the same MN700 and uses the default SSID in range depending
on where you live and depending, this can create havoc. are you
using WPA security?

all other things aside, the wireless in the printer should not be
constantly (every one or two seconds) communicating with the
computers. Are there other devices on the network besides the
printer and the two computers you mention ?

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

The SSID is broadcast and it uses the default name (at least I think
its the default name. I've been using it for over 2 years). The IP
assigned to the printer is 192.168.2.102. The IP for the two
computers affected by the excess transmissions are 192.168.2.103 and
192.168.2.119. The range of addresses the router can allocate is
192.168.2.2 to .254. All computers can see the printer through the
router via the "ping" command. The lease time for IP addresses is two
weeks, as I thought.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


I am using WEP security on the network. There are no other networks
in my area with the same name as mine. I have used Netstumbler to see
what is out there. Although there are quite a few other networks out
there in my neighbourhood, all go by a different name. I assume a
network that does not broadcast its name would also show up, but
without an allocated name. I have also selected a channel away from
the majority of channels in use by these other networks.

I have two other computers on this network. One is a Mac Laptop and
the other is Windows XP machine. I have installed the printer on the
Mac but not on the other computer. I cannot see the transmissions on
the Mac in the same fashion I can on the other two computers so I
can't tell if it is receiving these constant transmissions from the
printer. The sole computer I do not have the printer software on does
not have these constant wireless transmissions ongoing. This constant
transmission is only there when the printer's radio is on.

Another odd thing that happens - when either of the computers that
have the printer software installed is booting up (and both seem to
take a long time to boot), I cannot access the internet until the
installed printer software completely initializes.

Thanks.

Doug


I was going to suggest that you try asking in the hp itrc forums, but I
see you just posted there yesterday. Did you see this thread (which may
or may not apply to your situation): http://tinyurl.com/3sgj5d

HP installs quite a few software modules when you install one of their
printers. The functions, operation, and side effects of these modules
are not well documented. Sometimes you can delete various exe or dll
files and sometimes you can turn off services with no noticeable effect
other than to eliminate some unwanted behavior -- but not always.
Sometimes you can substitute a more "vanilla" printer driver.
Unfortunately, when there are other hardware functions (e.g., scanning)
to consider, you may be more limited in what is possible.

In any case, determining *which* files are safe to delete and *which*
services may be disabled takes a lot effort.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer
http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
  #18  
Old June 11th 08, 11:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 11, 1:31 pm, Lem wrote:
DGD wrote:
On Jun 11, 4:40 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
change the SSID name from the default. it is possible that someone
else has the same MN700 and uses the default SSID in range depending
on where you live and depending, this can create havoc. are you
using WPA security?


all other things aside, the wireless in the printer should not be
constantly (every one or two seconds) communicating with the
computers. Are there other devices on the network besides the
printer and the two computers you mention ?


On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:


The SSID is broadcast and it uses the default name (at least I think
its the default name. I've been using it for over 2 years). The IP
assigned to the printer is 192.168.2.102. The IP for the two
computers affected by the excess transmissions are 192.168.2.103 and
192.168.2.119. The range of addresses the router can allocate is
192.168.2.2 to .254. All computers can see the printer through the
router via the "ping" command. The lease time for IP addresses is two
weeks, as I thought.
--


Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx...


I am using WEP security on the network. There are no other networks
in my area with the same name as mine. I have used Netstumbler to see
what is out there. Although there are quite a few other networks out
there in my neighbourhood, all go by a different name. I assume a
network that does not broadcast its name would also show up, but
without an allocated name. I have also selected a channel away from
the majority of channels in use by these other networks.


I have two other computers on this network. One is a Mac Laptop and
the other is Windows XP machine. I have installed the printer on the
Mac but not on the other computer. I cannot see the transmissions on
the Mac in the same fashion I can on the other two computers so I
can't tell if it is receiving these constant transmissions from the
printer. The sole computer I do not have the printer software on does
not have these constant wireless transmissions ongoing. This constant
transmission is only there when the printer's radio is on.


Another odd thing that happens - when either of the computers that
have the printer software installed is booting up (and both seem to
take a long time to boot), I cannot access the internet until the
installed printer software completely initializes.


Thanks.


Doug


I was going to suggest that you try asking in the hp itrc forums, but I
see you just posted there yesterday. Did you see this thread (which may
or may not apply to your situation):http://tinyurl.com/3sgj5d

HP installs quite a few software modules when you install one of their
printers. The functions, operation, and side effects of these modules
are not well documented. Sometimes you can delete various exe or dll
files and sometimes you can turn off services with no noticeable effect
other than to eliminate some unwanted behavior -- but not always.
Sometimes you can substitute a more "vanilla" printer driver.
Unfortunately, when there are other hardware functions (e.g., scanning)
to consider, you may be more limited in what is possible.

In any case, determining *which* files are safe to delete and *which*
services may be disabled takes a lot effort.

--
Lem -- MS-MVP

To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_.../compessay.htm


As part of the troubleshooting exercised by HP Tech support, I shut
down all HP processes I could identify on one of the affected
computers. In spite of shutting down all of these processes, I
continued to have these constant transmissions from the printer. It
was explained away as being something normal, but I disagreed with the
tech support rep. I asked him to forward my issue to their
engineering staff and he reluctantly agreed to do so. The only
function I have discovered to date that stops the transmissions is the
disabling of the printer's radio, which is simply not practical.
Could there be a problem with the printer's radio? I had read
somewhere that HP had some production problems with the C7250, but
there was nothing specific identified.

The link that Lem posted seems down the right path. I'll have to see
if any of the things mentioned makes any difference, but I doubt it.
This issue seems to reside in the printer.

Thanks again.

Doug
  #19  
Old June 12th 08, 02:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Posts: 27
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 11, 6:05 pm, DGD wrote:
On Jun 11, 1:31 pm, Lem wrote:



DGD wrote:
On Jun 11, 4:40 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
change the SSID name from the default. it is possible that someone
else has the same MN700 and uses the default SSID in range depending
on where you live and depending, this can create havoc. are you
using WPA security?


all other things aside, the wireless in the printer should not be
constantly (every one or two seconds) communicating with the
computers. Are there other devices on the network besides the
printer and the two computers you mention ?


On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:


The SSID is broadcast and it uses the default name (at least I think
its the default name. I've been using it for over 2 years). The IP
assigned to the printer is 192.168.2.102. The IP for the two
computers affected by the excess transmissions are 192.168.2.103 and
192.168.2.119. The range of addresses the router can allocate is
192.168.2.2 to .254. All computers can see the printer through the
router via the "ping" command. The lease time for IP addresses is two
weeks, as I thought.
--


Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx...


I am using WEP security on the network. There are no other networks
in my area with the same name as mine. I have used Netstumbler to see
what is out there. Although there are quite a few other networks out
there in my neighbourhood, all go by a different name. I assume a
network that does not broadcast its name would also show up, but
without an allocated name. I have also selected a channel away from
the majority of channels in use by these other networks.


I have two other computers on this network. One is a Mac Laptop and
the other is Windows XP machine. I have installed the printer on the
Mac but not on the other computer. I cannot see the transmissions on
the Mac in the same fashion I can on the other two computers so I
can't tell if it is receiving these constant transmissions from the
printer. The sole computer I do not have the printer software on does
not have these constant wireless transmissions ongoing. This constant
transmission is only there when the printer's radio is on.


Another odd thing that happens - when either of the computers that
have the printer software installed is booting up (and both seem to
take a long time to boot), I cannot access the internet until the
installed printer software completely initializes.


Thanks.


Doug


I was going to suggest that you try asking in the hp itrc forums, but I
see you just posted there yesterday. Did you see this thread (which may
or may not apply to your situation):http://tinyurl.com/3sgj5d


HP installs quite a few software modules when you install one of their
printers. The functions, operation, and side effects of these modules
are not well documented. Sometimes you can delete various exe or dll
files and sometimes you can turn off services with no noticeable effect
other than to eliminate some unwanted behavior -- but not always.
Sometimes you can substitute a more "vanilla" printer driver.
Unfortunately, when there are other hardware functions (e.g., scanning)
to consider, you may be more limited in what is possible.


In any case, determining *which* files are safe to delete and *which*
services may be disabled takes a lot effort.


--
Lem -- MS-MVP


To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...tp://history.n...


As part of the troubleshooting exercised by HP Tech support, I shut
down all HP processes I could identify on one of the affected
computers. In spite of shutting down all of these processes, I
continued to have these constant transmissions from the printer. It
was explained away as being something normal, but I disagreed with the
tech support rep. I asked him to forward my issue to their
engineering staff and he reluctantly agreed to do so. The only
function I have discovered to date that stops the transmissions is the
disabling of the printer's radio, which is simply not practical.
Could there be a problem with the printer's radio? I had read
somewhere that HP had some production problems with the C7250, but
there was nothing specific identified.

The link that Lem posted seems down the right path. I'll have to see
if any of the things mentioned makes any difference, but I doubt it.
This issue seems to reside in the printer.

Thanks again.

Doug


The printer wireless settings have the authentication set as "Open".
Don't know how to change the setting on the printer and changing the
setting on the computers is somewhat confusing. If I establish the
authentication on the affected computers as "Shared" what can I expect
to happen, if anything?

Doug
  #20  
Old June 12th 08, 02:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Posts: 27
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 11, 9:15 pm, DGD wrote:
On Jun 11, 6:05 pm, DGD wrote:



On Jun 11, 1:31 pm, Lem wrote:


DGD wrote:
On Jun 11, 4:40 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
change the SSID name from the default. it is possible that someone
else has the same MN700 and uses the default SSID in range depending
on where you live and depending, this can create havoc. are you
using WPA security?


all other things aside, the wireless in the printer should not be
constantly (every one or two seconds) communicating with the
computers. Are there other devices on the network besides the
printer and the two computers you mention ?


On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:46:30 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:


The SSID is broadcast and it uses the default name (at least I think
its the default name. I've been using it for over 2 years). The IP
assigned to the printer is 192.168.2.102. The IP for the two
computers affected by the excess transmissions are 192.168.2.103 and
192.168.2.119. The range of addresses the router can allocate is
192.168.2.2 to .254. All computers can see the printer through the
router via the "ping" command. The lease time for IP addresses is two
weeks, as I thought.
--


Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx...


I am using WEP security on the network. There are no other networks
in my area with the same name as mine. I have used Netstumbler to see
what is out there. Although there are quite a few other networks out
there in my neighbourhood, all go by a different name. I assume a
network that does not broadcast its name would also show up, but
without an allocated name. I have also selected a channel away from
the majority of channels in use by these other networks.


I have two other computers on this network. One is a Mac Laptop and
the other is Windows XP machine. I have installed the printer on the
Mac but not on the other computer. I cannot see the transmissions on
the Mac in the same fashion I can on the other two computers so I
can't tell if it is receiving these constant transmissions from the
printer. The sole computer I do not have the printer software on does
not have these constant wireless transmissions ongoing. This constant
transmission is only there when the printer's radio is on.


Another odd thing that happens - when either of the computers that
have the printer software installed is booting up (and both seem to
take a long time to boot), I cannot access the internet until the
installed printer software completely initializes.


Thanks.


Doug


I was going to suggest that you try asking in the hp itrc forums, but I
see you just posted there yesterday. Did you see this thread (which may
or may not apply to your situation):http://tinyurl.com/3sgj5d


HP installs quite a few software modules when you install one of their
printers. The functions, operation, and side effects of these modules
are not well documented. Sometimes you can delete various exe or dll
files and sometimes you can turn off services with no noticeable effect
other than to eliminate some unwanted behavior -- but not always.
Sometimes you can substitute a more "vanilla" printer driver.
Unfortunately, when there are other hardware functions (e.g., scanning)
to consider, you may be more limited in what is possible.


In any case, determining *which* files are safe to delete and *which*
services may be disabled takes a lot effort.


--
Lem -- MS-MVP


To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_...tp://history.n...


As part of the troubleshooting exercised by HP Tech support, I shut
down all HP processes I could identify on one of the affected
computers. In spite of shutting down all of these processes, I
continued to have these constant transmissions from the printer. It
was explained away as being something normal, but I disagreed with the
tech support rep. I asked him to forward my issue to their
engineering staff and he reluctantly agreed to do so. The only
function I have discovered to date that stops the transmissions is the
disabling of the printer's radio, which is simply not practical.
Could there be a problem with the printer's radio? I had read
somewhere that HP had some production problems with the C7250, but
there was nothing specific identified.


The link that Lem posted seems down the right path. I'll have to see
if any of the things mentioned makes any difference, but I doubt it.
This issue seems to reside in the printer.


Thanks again.


Doug


The printer wireless settings have the authentication set as "Open".
Don't know how to change the setting on the printer and changing the
setting on the computers is somewhat confusing. If I establish the
authentication on the affected computers as "Shared" what can I expect
to happen, if anything?

Doug


Well, I tried to set the authentication to "Shared" on both affected
computers. Both lost their connection immediately and it took me an
hour to get everything working again.
  #21  
Old June 12th 08, 09:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Barb Bowman
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Posts: 206
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

Try WPA. WEP is just not safe -

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:58:29 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

Well, I tried to set the authentication to "Shared" on both affected
computers. Both lost their connection immediately and it took me an
hour to get everything working again.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
  #22  
Old June 12th 08, 02:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Posts: 27
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 12, 4:42*am, Barb Bowman wrote:
Try WPA. WEP is just not safe -

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:58:29 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

Well, I tried to set the authentication to "Shared" on both affected
computers. *Both lost their connection immediately and it took me an
hour to get everything working again.


--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


Converted to WPA, but can't get it to work on one of the affected
computers. The other computer, however, demonstrates the same
traits. Constant wireless communication with the wireless printer.


Doug
  #23  
Old June 13th 08, 12:18 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 12, 9:33 am, DGD wrote:
On Jun 12, 4:42 am, Barb Bowman wrote:

Try WPA. WEP is just not safe -


On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 18:58:29 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:


Well, I tried to set the authentication to "Shared" on both affected
computers. Both lost their connection immediately and it took me an
hour to get everything working again.


--


Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx...


Converted to WPA, but can't get it to work on one of the affected
computers. The other computer, however, demonstrates the same
traits. Constant wireless communication with the wireless printer.

Doug


All computers and printer are now working with WPA. No difference in
what is happening with the printer's transmissions.

Doug
  #24  
Old June 13th 08, 10:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Barb Bowman
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Posts: 206
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

if you completely uninstall any HP software on the PC and disable
any HP services, do you still see this traffic?

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:18:44 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

All computers and printer are now working with WPA. No difference in
what is happening with the printer's transmissions.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
  #25  
Old June 13th 08, 09:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Posts: 27
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 13, 5:47 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
if you completely uninstall any HP software on the PC and disable
any HP services, do you still see this traffic?

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:18:44 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

All computers and printer are now working with WPA. No difference in
what is happening with the printer's transmissions.


--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


I have only disabled all HP software on one of the affected computers
and still saw the same traffic. I have another computer on this
network that I have not installed the HP printer sw on and it does not
see or react to any of the HP printer traffic. I assume if I
uninstalled the sw on one of the affected computers, I would get the
same result.

Thanks

Doug
  #26  
Old June 14th 08, 10:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Barb Bowman
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Posts: 206
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

some of the HP software installs as a service, did you disable the
services?

is there a way to install the printer driver only?

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:58:40 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

I have only disabled all HP software on one of the affected computers
and still saw the same traffic. I have another computer on this
network that I have not installed the HP printer sw on and it does not
see or react to any of the HP printer traffic. I assume if I
uninstalled the sw on one of the affected computers, I would get the
same result.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
  #27  
Old June 15th 08, 01:38 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Posts: 27
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 14, 5:47 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
some of the HP software installs as a service, did you disable the
services?

is there a way to install the printer driver only?

On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:58:40 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

I have only disabled all HP software on one of the affected computers
and still saw the same traffic. I have another computer on this
network that I have not installed the HP printer sw on and it does not
see or react to any of the HP printer traffic. I assume if I
uninstalled the sw on one of the affected computers, I would get the
same result.


--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspxhttp://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/


I traced the problem to the HP Digital Monitor Software that loads
upon start up and is present in the system tray. When this program is
stopped, the communication issue disappears on the computer on which
the HP monitor SW is installed. The printer works fine wirelessly,
but with the Digital Monitor stopped, the HP solution center does not
function. This is another piece of sw that relies upon the HP Digital
Monitor SW to communicate with the printer. Scanning, copying, and
faxing can no longer be done through the HP Solution center with the
HP Digital Monitor SW disabled. Once disabled, I cannot find a place
to re-start it again, without rebooting the computer. Although I had
orginally thought the printer was initiating the communication with
the computer, it is, in fact, the other way around. It is the HP
Digital Monitor SW that is constantly initiating communication with
the printer, and the printer is simply responding to queries. Why it
does this with no requests for any kind of printer services I do not
know. The HP Digital Monitor SW also seems to reek havoc with my
wireless network and communicating on the internet. I am constantly
disconnected for no reason and it took me over an hour to establish a
link between this computer and the wireless network. The WPA
encryption is also playing into this somehow, but I don't know why.
Anyway, I think I understand what the problem is with the printer and
software. I am very disappointed in HP's sw. This HP Digital Monitor
SW appears to be a very poorly put together piece of sw that one has
to disable to get some basic functionality. Shame on HP for such a
shoddy product.

Doug
  #28  
Old June 15th 08, 11:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Barb Bowman
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Posts: 206
Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

well, at least you know what the cause of the issue is. does HP have
any user forums where you could start a thread on this?

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:38:02 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

Anyway, I think I understand what the problem is with the printer and
software. I am very disappointed in HP's sw. This HP Digital Monitor
SW appears to be a very poorly put together piece of sw that one has
to disable to get some basic functionality. Shame on HP for such a
shoddy product.

--

Barb Bowman
MS-MVP
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/e...ts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/
  #29  
Old June 15th 08, 12:58 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
DGD
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Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 15, 6:22 am, Barb Bowman wrote:
well, at least you know what the cause of the issue is. does HP have
any user forums where you could start a thread on this?

On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 17:38:02 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:

Anyway, I think I understand what the problem is with the printer and
software. I am very disappointed in HP's sw. This HP Digital Monitor
SW appears to be a very poorly put together piece of sw that one has
to disable to get some basic functionality. Shame on HP for such a
shoddy product.


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There are some forums on their web site, however, I posted there as
well to track this issue down. I received no replies to any of my
queries. I have stopped the Digital Imaging Monitor SW from loading
up on start-up and have created a shortcut to the program on the
desktop. When I need to use the HP Solutions SW, I can start the
Digital Imaging Monitor SW through the shortcut. Once running though,
it is a difficult thing to stop. Merely existing the program doesn't
do the trick. Killing all HP-related processes also doesn't do the
trick. Once that HP Digital Imaging Monitor SW is initialized at any
time (at start-up or when required), the end result is constant
transmission between the computer and printer. Killing processes
through the Task Manager doesn't stop this transmission. There is
something else affected. Anyway I have a work-around that is better
than what I had before. At least it is not doing it all the time.


Doug
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Old June 16th 08, 04:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
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Default What causes the wireless card to activate?

On Jun 10, 3:48 pm, DGD wrote:
On Jun 9, 10:12 pm, smlunatick wrote:



On Jun 8, 12:13 pm, Barb Bowman wrote:


Doug,
Looks like you've changed the addressing scheme, since by default
the MN700 uses 192.168.2.xxx addressing. do you want to describe
your network topology? You've got three ranges listed
99...
10...
72...


72 is likely Rogers, but not sure what 99 is.


without seeing the whole entries, it is tough to determine what is
going on.


note that there is a lot of probing, etc. present on the Internet.
the router should be stopping that with SPI. I'd have to see the
log of traffic to the computers IP to even guess on what is going
on.


UPnP - windows messenger and other programs use this.


On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 04:40:59 -0700 (PDT), DGD
wrote:


Not sure what you mean by UPnP activity. In any case here is an
extract from my router log. I have eliminated the IP addresses:


2008/06/07 23:49:08 DHCP Client : Request sent from 72.xxx.xxx.xxx to
99.xxx.xxx.xxx
2008/06/07 23:49:08 DHCP Client : Server response sent from
10.xxx.xxx.xxx to 72.xxx.xxx.xxx
2008/06/07 23:49:08 DHCP Client : Server response sent from
10.xxx.xxx.xxx to 72.xxx.xxx.xxx


This doesn't come close to capturing the amount of communication that
was going on and time line that it occured. My router doesn't appear
to track this in the device log.


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Barb Bowman
MS-MVPhttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx...


The printer should be using an IP address porgrammed onto in via the
unit's console (aka static IP.) Depending on the DHCP lease time may
be set too low.


Also, any "enhanced" management console installed on the PC will
generate traffic.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


The lease time is usually two weeks, but I will check later. The
traffic I am concerned about is coming from the printer and is
independent of any "management console" software installed on the PC.
I disabled all HP software on the laptop and this had no affect on the
amount of transmissions being received on the laptop. These
transmissions only stopped when the printer's radio was turned off.
I don't see the relationship between an auto or static IP address and
the amount of time the printer is communicating with computers. Why
would making the printer's address "static" make any difference to why
it constantly transmitting?

Doug


Using a static IP address for the printer will remove the DHCP service
"activity" over the network for the printer. With DHCP "clients,"
they request an IP address over the network when the lease time-out
has expired. For servers and printer, these are units that you must
always find across your network and with their DHCP "clients," these
may obtain a different IP address at every lease renewal. I have
encountered times where these never got a valid IP address so they
were not shown across the network.
 




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