registry

Marianne:
He
probably
can't
read
your
posts
because
your
words
are
in
sentences
that
go
across
the
screen.
"Marianne" wrote in message
...
: db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
: oh, just shut up.
:
: That is always your answer to those who disagree with you. Maybe you
: should be the one to shut up as you hardly ever have anything of value
: to contribute in any of your posts.
:
:
: MVP's are nothing
: more than people
: with ego's and unpaid
: help for the microsoft
: corporation.
:
: where do you get you
: information that mvp's
: are experts?
:
: is there a college degree
: or certification for being
: an mvp?
:
: What would it matter if they did have certifications? You would still
: claim to know more and better than they do. Dr. Russinovich holds B.S.
: and Ph.D. degrees in computer engineering and he is a foremost Windows
: expert yet you toss his certifications and expertise aside and you try
: to pretend that you know more than he does. I expect that you will soon
: claim to also know more about Windows XP than both Bill Gates and Dave
: Cutler collectively do and that you are also smarter than both Albert
: Einstein and Stephen Hawking!
:
: perhaps, you should further
: review what qualifies anyone
: to become an mvp.
:
: "Microsoft Most Valuable Professionals (MVPs) are exceptional technical
: community leaders from around the world who are awarded for voluntarily
: sharing their high quality, real world expertise in offline and online
: technical communities. Microsoft MVPs are a highly select group of
: experts that represents the technical community's best and brightest,
: and they share a deep commitment to community and a willingness to help
: others."
:
: http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
:
: That is a lot more than you have ever demonstrated in any of your posts!
:
: M

that is true up to a point
but don't take it personal.

but the truth of the matter is,
what you think mvps should
be is not the same as what
they are.

perhaps, you should
review the information
provided by the mvp
organization and make
your own assessment.

also, if you keep digging
you will find a code of
conduct specially aimed
towards mvp's.

there wasn't one a few
years ago, but you can
thank me later.

do you want to be an
mvp? it is highly possible
if you like to brown nose
mvp's, especially when they
are wrong, unhelpful and
rude.

further, you might try revewing
these newsgroups archives to
see how many of the mvp's have
been called, trolls, manipulative,
misleading, unprofessional,
etc.....

however, the truly professional
mvp's have better things to do
than to read some of the crap
posted by their peers.

but when these true professionals
do post their opinion or advice,
you will likely find the information
very informative, not misleading and
they do not utilize fear mongering.

can you apply the above attributes
to some of the postings of mvp's
you've read recently?

good luck with your endeavors
in your search for the truth, ie
your personal search and not
that which is fed to you.
--

db·´¯`·...¸)))º

"Marianne" wrote in message ...
db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
oh, just shut up.

That is always your answer to those who disagree with you. Maybe you should be the one to shut up as you hardly ever have
anything of value to contribute in any of your posts.


MVP's are nothing
more than people
with ego's and unpaid
help for the microsoft
corporation.

where do you get you
information that mvp's
are experts?

is there a college degree
or certification for being
an mvp?

What would it matter if they did have certifications? You would still claim to know more and better than they do. Dr.
Russinovich holds B.S. and Ph.D. degrees in computer engineering and he is a foremost Windows expert yet you toss his
certifications and expertise aside and you try to pretend that you know more than he does. I expect that you will soon claim to
also know more about Windows XP than both Bill Gates and Dave Cutler collectively do and that you are also smarter than both
Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking!

perhaps, you should further
review what qualifies anyone
to become an mvp.

"Microsoft Most Valuable Professionals (MVPs) are exceptional technical community leaders from around the world who are awarded
for voluntarily sharing their high quality, real world expertise in offline and online technical communities. Microsoft MVPs are a
highly select group of experts that represents the technical community's best and brightest, and they share a deep commitment to
community and a willingness to help others."

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/

That is a lot more than you have ever demonstrated in any of your posts!

M

Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
Marianne:
He
probably
can't
read
your
posts
because
your
words
are
in
sentences
that
go
across
the
screen.



ROFTMAO!!! Brilliant, Tom.


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~ Denis Diderot

[sigh]

yes, it would be for
someone of your great
intellectual inaptitude.

so if you are done, perhaps
you might get off of the floor.

someone might place
a pet dish for you.

btw: are you still an
mvp?

you haven't provided
the un-professional courtesy
of responding to my
sincere inquiries.
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"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ...
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
Marianne:
He
probably
can't
read
your
posts
because
your
words
are
in
sentences
that
go
across
the
screen.



ROFTMAO!!! Brilliant, Tom.


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Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell

The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

Very true statement------"You don't think". Obvious from your posts.
"Twayne" wrote in message
...
...

Your BS is no more useful than the BS of others although you seem to
think it is. Your long and tiresome posts and tirades advocating the
usefulness of Registry Cleaners are to most nothing other then
nonsense, surely even you must have detected that from the responses
you have received.

Not at all, although I have noted a considerable amount of ignorance.
Where's the proof? Let's see you post something useful to support your
parroting.


If Registry Cleaners are as useful as you seem to
think

I don't think; I know and I also know misinformation when I see it.

it would be very obvious to all and their usefulness would be
simply verifiable and no debate would be necessary, in fact that is
not the case. Further, I would think that those that market these
programs would by now have devised a very simple 'test' to show how
useful their programs are, as far as I know no such test or
demonstration of their efficacy exists. I know you have made such an
offer but you have no credibility. From your responses to your
critics it appears you must believe there exists some sort of
conspiracy to discredit these programs. Why would that be the case?
We all know by now how much you faith you have in these programs,
please give the 'unconverted' the courtesy to know you are totally
wrong in everything you have said on the subject.

Ahh, Tolstoy personified. Misinformation is bad. Parrots and sock
puppets are even worse. Actually, normally I wouldn't bother with
respoinding to tripe like this, but I had a few extra minutes tonite. Be
back ina few more days too probably but not sure you'll be one of the ones
I waste good information on. Even your pal Brucey Boy has no proof of his
postulations and prophecies; do you?

You're probably correct. He won't respond so, he doesn't want that
information about his spread.
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Unknown wrote:
What specifically is your background with computers?




Judging by the apparent maturity level of most of his posts, he sneaks
onto his parents' system whenever they're out of the house.


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Russell

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killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot

Unknown wrote:
What specifically is your background with computers?




Judging by the apparent maturity level of most of his posts, he sneaks
onto his parents' system whenever they're out of the house.

Ahh, Bruce! Your'e back! When are we going to see some of that
voluminous proof of yours? Lots of innuendo but no facts. And
apparently a fear of being upstaged by accepting a logically issued
challenge where you could have even set a lot of the conditions. You
don't have a damned bit of "evidence" as you like to call it, do you?
I'd go so far as to say you don't even have any real-world experience,
since you've never given any semblence of anything to back up your
claims. I wouldn't like it, but I have no big problem with being shown
where I'm wrong; why do you? Is it simply because you know I'm not
wrong? I suspect so.

Twayne

Twayne wrote:


Your ability to count is certainly lacking.

Not nearly as lacking as is your knowledge of the MVP program.

Also "MVP" means nothing
other than the fact that they passed a test and got the title handed
to them.


Totally incorrect. There is no test. The MVP title is an award for
having consistently offering accurate and helpful technical advice for
the past year.

Use whatever word you like for the proficiency end of things. It's not
really relevant.



It's easy enough to read about it on their site if you're really
interested.


Which you've clearly not done. Either that or you're deliberately
lying.

Which I have done, in fact, and used its resources a time or two even.
You are in serious violation of some of the requirements to be an MVP,
but don't worry about it; I'm not that kind of person unless the
problems are much worse than yours are. So, what you're "clearly"
assuming is nothing more than syntax. There is a lot more to it than
simply having "helped" people for a year. And unless things have
changed in the last probably a year, it's not very hard to become an MVP
aka sock puppet for MS. Hey, you brought it up, I didn't. Most MVPs
take their titles seriously and that speaks well for them, but in your
case, well, ... .



MVPs are also people; they are good, bad and indifferent
just like everyone else and there have been the occasional bad apples
and posers along the lines, too.


Yes, MVPs are human, and can make mistakes. While some are more
stubborn then others, all that I've ever known will correct their
responses after a mistake has been pointed out.

You have not known many then. I can think of 3 right off the top of my
head, one who was stripped of his title good reason, and another who
simply gave up and didn't keep his listing current.



Being an MVP doesn't make one a "PRO", ...


Not necessarily, no. Nevertheless, many are IT professionals.

And many are not. And most IT professionals are not MVPs; that's a poor
connection.



... it simply means they demonstrated some knownledge of whatever
area of the computer they chose to take the test in.


Again, there is no test. The award is based solely on proven past
performance.

In the sense that you had to be nominated, be chosen from a group of
other MVPs and sometimes I've heard an MS presence during that, the
overall "review" turns out to be a LOT like passing a test IMO. So,
like I've said before, call it what you want. A rose is a rose is a ...
.. You do not, as you implied, become an MVP by simply answering
questions on a newgroup for a year. and a year. and a year. I am
certain of what I say here. I am also just as certain that being an MVP
is area-related to one's own expertise areas. So yes, I have read it.
You do NOT want me to read it again, believe me, because then I will
be armed with the information I need to display your violations of the
requirements for being an MVP.
And again, use whatever language you would like. I've watched the MVP
program since around the mid 80's to early 90's I think it was, and it
used to be a great organization in those early days. Even when it hit
its hayday, it never got the accolades and attention it thought it
deserved. And that was the beginning of some ends for it as it slipped
back into obscurity. I think a lot of folk with the MVP title would be
pretty dismayed to discover just how many people don't really recognize
"mvp" or any of its variations, including the "aumha" end of it. I've
received assistance in the past from soem excellent MVPs though, and
found aumha... to have a lot of good information. But when I find a
closed mind like yours with a "snake oil" mentality on top of it,
putting out misinformation as though it were gospel and heaven forbid
anyone should have a different opinion, AND the spew is time after time
MISINFORMATION, I have a tendency to say so. It's pretty simple,
really; I say what I mean, and I mean what I say.



Most anyone can become an
MVP.


If they offer consistently accurate and helpful technical advice, yes.


That includes closed minded people who have NO evidence for the
things they post,


Then why aren't *you* an MVP? You've certainly *NEVER* offered any
evidence to support your claims about the benefits of using registry
cleaners. The most you've ever done, when challenged, has been to
offer links to worthless and weak marketing/advertising copy.

I am not an MVP because by the time I actually considered it, it felt
like more of an entrapment than anything else. My time would be spent
on Microsoft newsgroups rather than spread anywhere and anywhen I felt
like. So I simply dropped the idea as when I got closer to it, I felt
more like a free employee for MS than doing what I wanted to do, which
was assisting those in need.
Now, as for never having offered any evidence to support my claims,
1. That's a lie and you know it.
2. The information exists in my archives and though it coulen't hold up
in a court of law, I could "prove" it if I were so inclined.

OTOH, you were challenged first to provide same, and I have NEVER seen
anything from you either. And, I'm not the only one to have asked you
to show verification or source for your claims, but I WAS one of the
first. In fact, when you first started this crap, I was one of the
first to want to know your sources and what you based your opinion on.
To my knowledge and experience, you have NEVER responded to ANYONE with
ANY sort of "evidence" to use your own term, verifying, resourcing,
clarifying or even intimating a basis for your claims. You are
consistant, I'll give you that. But you also spew baseless
misinformation over and over with boilerplate no less, in language that
any thinking person would only consider to be ego-projection at the
least. There are two things that catch my attention quickly these days:
Lying and giving misinformation. You are guilty of both in this one
post alone.

So why don't you either s__t or get off the pot? Either you have the
information to back up your claims or you don't. My suspicions are that
you do not. Else you would have parted with them long ago and before
you earned the reputation of being such an egotist that you had to stick
by anything you said regardless of the correctness of it. I know I have
about 3 different versions of your boilerplate tucked away in the
archives; care to try for a 4th?

On the off-chance that you DO have such qualifying information, I'll
stil be very glad to read it. And unlike you I'll read it with more
intent than a pre-meditated intent to prove wrong before even starting.
Your are wrong Bruce, and you know it.

Twayne

Tom" is irrelevant. YOU are the one needs to respond to your own
challenges. But I know you won't, which is really too bad. Doesn't
help the ego when you know you're wrong, does it?

Twayne



Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
Marianne:
He
probably
can't
read
your
posts
because
your
words
are
in
sentences
that
go
across
the
screen.



ROFTMAO!!! Brilliant, Tom.

[sigh]

yes, it would be for
someone of your great
intellectual inaptitude.

so if you are done, perhaps
you might get off of the floor.

someone might place
a pet dish for you.

btw: are you still an
mvp?

you haven't provided
the un-professional courtesy
of responding to my
sincere inquiries.

I suspect not. You could find out at, I think, mvps.org if you really
wanted to put in the effort. Personally I don't think it's worth the
effort but ymmv I'm sure.

Twayne



"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
Marianne:
He
probably
can't
read
your
posts
because
your
words
are
in
sentences
that
go
across
the
screen.



ROFTMAO!!! Brilliant, Tom.


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people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the
priest has
killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot

lol, I don't really care about anyone's posts but Brucy boy, but I'll
make an exception here since I'm enjoying a few spare mintues tonite.

db.·.. ))) ·` .. . wrote:
oh, just shut up.

That is always your answer to those who disagree with you. Maybe you
should be the one to shut up as you hardly ever have anything of value
to contribute in any of your posts.

Hmm, that sounds just like some one of the MVPs around here said. Are
you parroting now?



MVP's are nothing
more than people
with ego's and unpaid
help for the microsoft
corporation.

where do you get you
information that mvp's
are experts?

is there a college degree
or certification for being
an mvp?

What would it matter if they did have certifications?

It could matter a LOT depending on who does the certifying.

You would still
claim to know more and better than they do.

So now your'e clairvoyant?

Dr. Russinovich holds
B.S. and Ph.D. degrees in computer engineering and he is a foremost
Windows expert yet you toss his certifications and expertise aside
and you try to pretend that you know more than he does.

I had not seen anyone make that claim in any way. You are
1. Reading into things whatever feels good to you now, and
2. I seriously doubt you know who that is other than the recent mention
in the posts here.

I expect
that you will soon claim to also know more about Windows XP than both
Bill Gates and Dave Cutler collectively do and that you are also
smarter than both Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawking!

Now, here's an area you need to be careful in. You could be pretty
disappointed in what Mr. Gates knows about using XP. The information is
right there for you to read, if you have the gumption to bother to look
for it. You should be more careful about your rationalizations.
It's also a nice try at redirection to bring these last three
irrelevants into the picture. Now you wouldn't be trying to redirect
the thread to another subject so you can keep on arguing, would you?
Does that give you joy? Maybe you need to go check up on what it takes
to become an MVP; after all, it's easy, and most of them admit it. Oh,
never mind, you don't qualify for other reasons.


perhaps, you should further
review what qualifies anyone
to become an mvp.

"Microsoft Most Valuable Professionals (MVPs) are exceptional
technical community leaders from around the world who are awarded for
voluntarily sharing their high quality, real world expertise in
offline and online technical communities. Microsoft MVPs are a highly
select group of experts that represents the technical community's
best and brightest, and they share a deep commitment to community and
a willingness to help others."

Gosh, a quoted, uncredited, plagairism right from some web site like the
MVPs web site. Now, they wouldn't be just a bit prejudiced, would they?
Either that or it's some hype one of the MVPs here fed you; I'm not sure
but it's not hard to see none of it is yours, even though you didn't
credit the author. And I'll bet that's a copyright violation if my
suspicions are right.

Ah, that's where you got it; now I see:

http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
parroting and not thinking for yourself is a bad thing, especially when
you use clearly prejudiced sources. You must be a politician's dream
come true!

That is a lot more than you have ever demonstrated in any of your
posts!

Now, how could you know that? I suspect you never even heard of him
until you got into this thread. So how could you possibly know what he
has "ever" accomplished anywhere, including on this group?
YOu're too emotional and too determined; get rid of some of the
emotion and you might make more sense, might even start to think for
yourself and determine the ACTUAL status of things like "registry
cleaners". Nah, probably not.

T




M

Everyone: We're not dealing with a rational person here. Please, let's
not feed the trolls.
---
Leonard Grey
Errare humanum est

"A Day in the Life of a Web 2.0 Hacker" - PC Magazine
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2330952,00.asp

Twayne wrote:
[sigh]

yes, it would be for
someone of your great
intellectual inaptitude.

so if you are done, perhaps
you might get off of the floor.

someone might place
a pet dish for you.

btw: are you still an
mvp?

you haven't provided
the un-professional courtesy
of responding to my
sincere inquiries.

I suspect not. You could find out at, I think, mvps.org if you really
wanted to put in the effort. Personally I don't think it's worth the
effort but ymmv I'm sure.

Twayne


"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
Marianne:
He
probably
can't
read
your
posts
because
your
words
are
in
sentences
that
go
across
the
screen.


ROFTMAO!!! Brilliant, Tom.


--

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people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand
Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the
priest has
killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot

nah, thats ok.

just poking for fun
and re-tri-bu-tion.
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"Twayne" wrote in message ...
[sigh]

yes, it would be for
someone of your great
intellectual inaptitude.

so if you are done, perhaps
you might get off of the floor.

someone might place
a pet dish for you.

btw: are you still an
mvp?

you haven't provided
the un-professional courtesy
of responding to my
sincere inquiries.

I suspect not. You could find out at, I think, mvps.org if you really wanted to put in the effort. Personally I don't think it's
worth the effort but ymmv I'm sure.

Twayne



"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...
Tom [Pepper] Willett wrote:
Marianne:
He
probably
can't
read
your
posts
because
your
words
are
in
sentences
that
go
across
the
screen.



ROFTMAO!!! Brilliant, Tom.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375

They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do.
~Bertrand
Russell The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers. ~ Denis Diderot