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December 9th 08, 06:35 PM
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Unable to connect through LAN
Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost -
"Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm 
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December 9th 08, 06:35 PM
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Unable to connect through LAN
Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost -
"Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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December 9th 08, 09:01 PM
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Unable to connect through LAN
Open Network Connections on Alysanne (Control Panel Network Connections)
Right-click on the icon for the Dial-up Connection. This probably is under the category "Broadband" with the name of your ISP (RickNet?). Click the "Advanced" tab. The top section deals with Windows Firewall. You should have this "on". The bottom section deals with Internet Connection Sharing. At least the top box ("Allow other network users to connect ...") should be checked. After you confirm that the ICS box is checked and OK your way out of this dialog, open a Command Prompt window and run ipconfig /all Under "Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection", you should see the values IP address = 192.168.0.1 and Subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Do you see these values? FYI - When it's working, ICS forces the IP address of the LAN adapter in the "host" computer to 192.168.0.1. The LAN adapter in the "client" computer should be set to obtain an IP address automatically. Part of ICS will assign an IP address to the client computer's LAN adapter in the range 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254. Right now, with the values you reported, you have the two computers connected in what's called "ad hoc" network mode, using Windows' "Automatic Private IP Addressing" (APIPA) scheme. This permits the two computers to share files, which is why your "Network Places" seems to work, but it doesn't connect the local network (the 2 computers) to the dial-up connection. Dave wrote: Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost - "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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Unable to connect through LAN
Open Network Connections on Alysanne (Control Panel Network Connections)
Right-click on the icon for the Dial-up Connection. This probably is under the category "Broadband" with the name of your ISP (RickNet?). Click the "Advanced" tab. The top section deals with Windows Firewall. You should have this "on". The bottom section deals with Internet Connection Sharing. At least the top box ("Allow other network users to connect ...") should be checked. After you confirm that the ICS box is checked and OK your way out of this dialog, open a Command Prompt window and run ipconfig /all Under "Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection", you should see the values IP address = 192.168.0.1 and Subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Do you see these values? FYI - When it's working, ICS forces the IP address of the LAN adapter in the "host" computer to 192.168.0.1. The LAN adapter in the "client" computer should be set to obtain an IP address automatically. Part of ICS will assign an IP address to the client computer's LAN adapter in the range 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254. Right now, with the values you reported, you have the two computers connected in what's called "ad hoc" network mode, using Windows' "Automatic Private IP Addressing" (APIPA) scheme. This permits the two computers to share files, which is why your "Network Places" seems to work, but it doesn't connect the local network (the 2 computers) to the dial-up connection. Dave wrote: Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost - "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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December 10th 08, 12:12 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:35:51 -0600, "Dave" wrote: Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. You don't have to open any connection if pcAlysanne is running ICS. It should all be transparent. After you have ensured that pcAlysanne has a static address of 192.168.0.1 all as per Lem's instructions, reboot pcDavid so that it is automatically reconfigured with a new ip address, gateway etc. by Alysanne. Then without opening any connection you should automatically have Internet access. The part that puzzles me is this two active dial up networking connections. What exactly is your setup here. Have you got two phone lines one for each pc? Or did you do the ipconfig /all at different times? Bear in mind that once ICS is correctly installed on pcAlysanne, pcDavid will continue to share that Internet connection ONLY until something causes the direct dial connection on pcDavid to come up. On Internet Explorer - Tools - Internet Options - Connections ensure that "never dial a connection" is selected or if you don't need the direct connection anymore then delete it. If you want to get Internet access through pcAlysanne while pcDavid is connected directly to somewhere else on other business, then you need to edit the advanced tcp/ip properties of the dial up networking connection on pcDavid and uncheck the box which says "use default gateway on remote network". All this remains guesswork because you still haven't described in enough detail your network setup or what you are trying to accomplish by having two dialups. Jim.
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Unable to connect through LAN
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:35:51 -0600, "Dave" wrote: Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. You don't have to open any connection if pcAlysanne is running ICS. It should all be transparent. After you have ensured that pcAlysanne has a static address of 192.168.0.1 all as per Lem's instructions, reboot pcDavid so that it is automatically reconfigured with a new ip address, gateway etc. by Alysanne. Then without opening any connection you should automatically have Internet access. The part that puzzles me is this two active dial up networking connections. What exactly is your setup here. Have you got two phone lines one for each pc? Or did you do the ipconfig /all at different times? Bear in mind that once ICS is correctly installed on pcAlysanne, pcDavid will continue to share that Internet connection ONLY until something causes the direct dial connection on pcDavid to come up. On Internet Explorer - Tools - Internet Options - Connections ensure that "never dial a connection" is selected or if you don't need the direct connection anymore then delete it. If you want to get Internet access through pcAlysanne while pcDavid is connected directly to somewhere else on other business, then you need to edit the advanced tcp/ip properties of the dial up networking connection on pcDavid and uncheck the box which says "use default gateway on remote network". All this remains guesswork because you still haven't described in enough detail your network setup or what you are trying to accomplish by having two dialups. Jim.
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December 10th 08, 12:45 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
Lem - let me report back on this - see ***** below
"Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Open Network Connections on Alysanne (Control Panel Network Connections) Right-click on the icon for the Dial-up Connection. This probably is under the category "Broadband" with the name of your ISP (RickNet?). Click the "Advanced" tab. The top section deals with Windows Firewall. You should have this "on". The bottom section deals with Internet Connection Sharing. At least the top box ("Allow other network users to connect ...") should be checked. After you confirm that the ICS box is checked and OK your way out of this dialog, open a Command Prompt window and run ipconfig /all Under "Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection", you should see the values IP address = 192.168.0.1 and Subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Do you see these values? **********YES FYI - When it's working, ICS forces the IP address of the LAN adapter in the "host" computer to 192.168.0.1. The LAN adapter in the "client" computer should be set to obtain an IP address automatically. Part of ICS will assign an IP address to the client computer's LAN adapter in the range 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254. Right now, with the values you reported, you have the two computers connected in what's called "ad hoc" network mode, using Windows' "Automatic Private IP Addressing" (APIPA) scheme. This permits the two computers to share files, which is why your "Network Places" seems to work, but it doesn't connect the local network (the 2 computers) to the dial-up connection. ************* But still no joy om the connect thru Alysanne current info follows C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled ***end of reply ***** C:\ Dave wrote: Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost - "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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December 10th 08, 12:45 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
Lem - let me report back on this - see ***** below
"Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Open Network Connections on Alysanne (Control Panel Network Connections) Right-click on the icon for the Dial-up Connection. This probably is under the category "Broadband" with the name of your ISP (RickNet?). Click the "Advanced" tab. The top section deals with Windows Firewall. You should have this "on". The bottom section deals with Internet Connection Sharing. At least the top box ("Allow other network users to connect ...") should be checked. After you confirm that the ICS box is checked and OK your way out of this dialog, open a Command Prompt window and run ipconfig /all Under "Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection", you should see the values IP address = 192.168.0.1 and Subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Do you see these values? **********YES FYI - When it's working, ICS forces the IP address of the LAN adapter in the "host" computer to 192.168.0.1. The LAN adapter in the "client" computer should be set to obtain an IP address automatically. Part of ICS will assign an IP address to the client computer's LAN adapter in the range 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254. Right now, with the values you reported, you have the two computers connected in what's called "ad hoc" network mode, using Windows' "Automatic Private IP Addressing" (APIPA) scheme. This permits the two computers to share files, which is why your "Network Places" seems to work, but it doesn't connect the local network (the 2 computers) to the dial-up connection. ************* But still no joy om the connect thru Alysanne current info follows C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled ***end of reply ***** C:\ Dave wrote: Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost - "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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December 10th 08, 01:18 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
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On David, go to Network Connections, right click on the icon for your Local Area Connection and select Properties. On the "General" tab that opens, select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and click the "Properties" button. Select the radio buttons to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically." OK your way out. You may need to reboot David, but then you should be good to go. Dave wrote: Lem - let me report back on this - see ***** below "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Open Network Connections on Alysanne (Control Panel Network Connections) Right-click on the icon for the Dial-up Connection. This probably is under the category "Broadband" with the name of your ISP (RickNet?). Click the "Advanced" tab. The top section deals with Windows Firewall. You should have this "on". The bottom section deals with Internet Connection Sharing. At least the top box ("Allow other network users to connect ...") should be checked. After you confirm that the ICS box is checked and OK your way out of this dialog, open a Command Prompt window and run ipconfig /all Under "Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection", you should see the values IP address = 192.168.0.1 and Subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Do you see these values? **********YES FYI - When it's working, ICS forces the IP address of the LAN adapter in the "host" computer to 192.168.0.1. The LAN adapter in the "client" computer should be set to obtain an IP address automatically. Part of ICS will assign an IP address to the client computer's LAN adapter in the range 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254. Right now, with the values you reported, you have the two computers connected in what's called "ad hoc" network mode, using Windows' "Automatic Private IP Addressing" (APIPA) scheme. This permits the two computers to share files, which is why your "Network Places" seems to work, but it doesn't connect the local network (the 2 computers) to the dial-up connection. ************* But still no joy om the connect thru Alysanne current info follows C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled ***end of reply ***** C:\ Dave wrote: Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost - "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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December 10th 08, 01:18 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
You're almost there!
On David, go to Network Connections, right click on the icon for your Local Area Connection and select Properties. On the "General" tab that opens, select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and click the "Properties" button. Select the radio buttons to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically." OK your way out. You may need to reboot David, but then you should be good to go. Dave wrote: Lem - let me report back on this - see ***** below "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Open Network Connections on Alysanne (Control Panel Network Connections) Right-click on the icon for the Dial-up Connection. This probably is under the category "Broadband" with the name of your ISP (RickNet?). Click the "Advanced" tab. The top section deals with Windows Firewall. You should have this "on". The bottom section deals with Internet Connection Sharing. At least the top box ("Allow other network users to connect ...") should be checked. After you confirm that the ICS box is checked and OK your way out of this dialog, open a Command Prompt window and run ipconfig /all Under "Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection", you should see the values IP address = 192.168.0.1 and Subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Do you see these values? **********YES FYI - When it's working, ICS forces the IP address of the LAN adapter in the "host" computer to 192.168.0.1. The LAN adapter in the "client" computer should be set to obtain an IP address automatically. Part of ICS will assign an IP address to the client computer's LAN adapter in the range 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254. Right now, with the values you reported, you have the two computers connected in what's called "ad hoc" network mode, using Windows' "Automatic Private IP Addressing" (APIPA) scheme. This permits the two computers to share files, which is why your "Network Places" seems to work, but it doesn't connect the local network (the 2 computers) to the dial-up connection. ************* But still no joy om the connect thru Alysanne current info follows C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled ***end of reply ***** C:\ Dave wrote: Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost - "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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December 10th 08, 01:21 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
Thank you for daring to enter into this mess -
1) At the expense of repeating myself, let me list a few givens: 2) 2 WinXP SP2 machines, each with a modem & appropriate hardware, connected by an Ethernet cable 3) Each computer connects to one ISP on the same phone line but separate accounts 4) We have had the ALYSANNE/Host DAVID/Client setup for years 5) ALYSANNE had 1 direct/shared connection to the ISP 6) DAVID had 2 connections set up, one directly to the ISP, the other through ALYSANNE via the LAN. Obviously, only one could be used at any one time. In case you are wondering why this setup, it has to do with network printers/copiers/etc., and some limitations on ALYSANNE's ability to move around physically. I believe the most important point here is this setup worked for years. We changed it to try out other arrangements, which did not work pout, so we tried to change it back. That was about 2 weeks ago, and here we are. I am sure you're beginning to see what you are dealing with here, but we're trying. If we are leaving out vital information, or being redundant, it is not intentional. At one point , we could not get the LAN to 'Repair' Lem got us past that. He has also been very helpful narrowing things down. Unfortunately, we have not quite done the right thing yet, I guess. At this point, the question is how can DAVID make a ISP connection (using ALYSANNE's modem, not DAVID's) which will also come up as a connection on ALYSANNE? Since this whole business started, that has yet to occur (although, again, it was that way for years.)? Thanks again Dave "James Egan" wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:35:51 -0600, "Dave" wrote: Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. You don't have to open any connection if pcAlysanne is running ICS. It should all be transparent. After you have ensured that pcAlysanne has a static address of 192.168.0.1 all as per Lem's instructions, reboot pcDavid so that it is automatically reconfigured with a new ip address, gateway etc. by Alysanne. Then without opening any connection you should automatically have Internet access. The part that puzzles me is this two active dial up networking connections. What exactly is your setup here. Have you got two phone lines one for each pc? Or did you do the ipconfig /all at different times? Bear in mind that once ICS is correctly installed on pcAlysanne, pcDavid will continue to share that Internet connection ONLY until something causes the direct dial connection on pcDavid to come up. On Internet Explorer - Tools - Internet Options - Connections ensure that "never dial a connection" is selected or if you don't need the direct connection anymore then delete it. If you want to get Internet access through pcAlysanne while pcDavid is connected directly to somewhere else on other business, then you need to edit the advanced tcp/ip properties of the dial up networking connection on pcDavid and uncheck the box which says "use default gateway on remote network". All this remains guesswork because you still haven't described in enough detail your network setup or what you are trying to accomplish by having two dialups. Jim.
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December 10th 08, 01:21 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
Thank you for daring to enter into this mess -
1) At the expense of repeating myself, let me list a few givens: 2) 2 WinXP SP2 machines, each with a modem & appropriate hardware, connected by an Ethernet cable 3) Each computer connects to one ISP on the same phone line but separate accounts 4) We have had the ALYSANNE/Host DAVID/Client setup for years 5) ALYSANNE had 1 direct/shared connection to the ISP 6) DAVID had 2 connections set up, one directly to the ISP, the other through ALYSANNE via the LAN. Obviously, only one could be used at any one time. In case you are wondering why this setup, it has to do with network printers/copiers/etc., and some limitations on ALYSANNE's ability to move around physically. I believe the most important point here is this setup worked for years. We changed it to try out other arrangements, which did not work pout, so we tried to change it back. That was about 2 weeks ago, and here we are. I am sure you're beginning to see what you are dealing with here, but we're trying. If we are leaving out vital information, or being redundant, it is not intentional. At one point , we could not get the LAN to 'Repair' Lem got us past that. He has also been very helpful narrowing things down. Unfortunately, we have not quite done the right thing yet, I guess. At this point, the question is how can DAVID make a ISP connection (using ALYSANNE's modem, not DAVID's) which will also come up as a connection on ALYSANNE? Since this whole business started, that has yet to occur (although, again, it was that way for years.)? Thanks again Dave "James Egan" wrote in message ... On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 12:35:51 -0600, "Dave" wrote: Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. You don't have to open any connection if pcAlysanne is running ICS. It should all be transparent. After you have ensured that pcAlysanne has a static address of 192.168.0.1 all as per Lem's instructions, reboot pcDavid so that it is automatically reconfigured with a new ip address, gateway etc. by Alysanne. Then without opening any connection you should automatically have Internet access. The part that puzzles me is this two active dial up networking connections. What exactly is your setup here. Have you got two phone lines one for each pc? Or did you do the ipconfig /all at different times? Bear in mind that once ICS is correctly installed on pcAlysanne, pcDavid will continue to share that Internet connection ONLY until something causes the direct dial connection on pcDavid to come up. On Internet Explorer - Tools - Internet Options - Connections ensure that "never dial a connection" is selected or if you don't need the direct connection anymore then delete it. If you want to get Internet access through pcAlysanne while pcDavid is connected directly to somewhere else on other business, then you need to edit the advanced tcp/ip properties of the dial up networking connection on pcDavid and uncheck the box which says "use default gateway on remote network". All this remains guesswork because you still haven't described in enough detail your network setup or what you are trying to accomplish by having two dialups. Jim.
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December 10th 08, 08:12 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:21:16 -0600, "Dave" wrote: Thank you for daring to enter into this mess - 1) At the expense of repeating myself, let me list a few givens: 2) 2 WinXP SP2 machines, each with a modem & appropriate hardware, connected by an Ethernet cable 3) Each computer connects to one ISP on the same phone line but separate accounts 4) We have had the ALYSANNE/Host DAVID/Client setup for years 5) ALYSANNE had 1 direct/shared connection to the ISP 6) DAVID had 2 connections set up, one directly to the ISP, the other through ALYSANNE via the LAN. Obviously, only one could be used at any one time. Both pcDAVID and pcALYSANNE should both show two network connections. One for the LAN and one for the respective direct dial up. snip At this point, the question is how can DAVID make a ISP connection (using ALYSANNE's modem, not DAVID's) which will also come up as a connection on ALYSANNE? Since this whole business started, that has yet to occur (although, again, it was that way for years.)? First things first. After you have installed ICS on the pcAlysanne and it's address is 192.168.0.1, when you reboot pcDavid it should also have an address 192.168.0.x (from pcAlysanne by dhcp) Your last ipconfig post showed that pcDavid was still auto configuring itself with a apipa address (169.254.xxx.xxx) signifying a broken LAN connection. This is the first issue to clear up. Having established a working LAN connection when both pc's are on subnet 192.168.0.0/24 you can move onto the sharing problem. This is a good guide to setting up manually on pcAlysanne http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/ http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rverdialup.htm In particular, note this screen http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...erdialup03.gif If the dial up Internet connection on pcAlysanne is not already up and you want to control it from pcDavid then you need to check all the ics boxes. Once you have done this, operationally on pcDavid you don't have to click on any connection. Just open up a web page or check your email and the rest should be done by pcAlysanne. Jim.
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December 10th 08, 08:12 AM
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Unable to connect through LAN
On Tue, 9 Dec 2008 19:21:16 -0600, "Dave" wrote: Thank you for daring to enter into this mess - 1) At the expense of repeating myself, let me list a few givens: 2) 2 WinXP SP2 machines, each with a modem & appropriate hardware, connected by an Ethernet cable 3) Each computer connects to one ISP on the same phone line but separate accounts 4) We have had the ALYSANNE/Host DAVID/Client setup for years 5) ALYSANNE had 1 direct/shared connection to the ISP 6) DAVID had 2 connections set up, one directly to the ISP, the other through ALYSANNE via the LAN. Obviously, only one could be used at any one time. Both pcDAVID and pcALYSANNE should both show two network connections. One for the LAN and one for the respective direct dial up. snip At this point, the question is how can DAVID make a ISP connection (using ALYSANNE's modem, not DAVID's) which will also come up as a connection on ALYSANNE? Since this whole business started, that has yet to occur (although, again, it was that way for years.)? First things first. After you have installed ICS on the pcAlysanne and it's address is 192.168.0.1, when you reboot pcDavid it should also have an address 192.168.0.x (from pcAlysanne by dhcp) Your last ipconfig post showed that pcDavid was still auto configuring itself with a apipa address (169.254.xxx.xxx) signifying a broken LAN connection. This is the first issue to clear up. Having established a working LAN connection when both pc's are on subnet 192.168.0.0/24 you can move onto the sharing problem. This is a good guide to setting up manually on pcAlysanne http://www.practicallynetworked.com/sharing/xp_ics/ http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rverdialup.htm In particular, note this screen http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...erdialup03.gif If the dial up Internet connection on pcAlysanne is not already up and you want to control it from pcDavid then you need to check all the ics boxes. Once you have done this, operationally on pcDavid you don't have to click on any connection. Just open up a web page or check your email and the rest should be done by pcAlysanne. Jim.
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December 10th 08, 04:28 PM
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Unable to connect through LAN
GOOD GRIEF
As the King said to Mozart in 'Amadeus' "And there it is" Lem said 'You're almost there' And sure enough. At the expense of taking up even more of everybody's time, can I ask how in the world I ever got into this mess in the first place? Frankly, I can't believe I didn't hit the right combination, even by accident, at least once during all this. I guess I better keep a copy of the final ipconfig/all page just in case. And yes, James, we now show a LAN and direct dialup on each comp, as well as a connection through ALYSANNE on DAVID. And how can I thank you all - Lem, nass, James - you never gave up. What a group, talk about perspicacity! Thanks again -- Dave From the far north woods of Wisconsin "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... You're almost there! On David, go to Network Connections, right click on the icon for your Local Area Connection and select Properties. On the "General" tab that opens, select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" and click the "Properties" button. Select the radio buttons to "Obtain an IP address automatically" and "Obtain DNS server address automatically." OK your way out. You may need to reboot David, but then you should be good to go. Dave wrote: Lem - let me report back on this - see ***** below "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Open Network Connections on Alysanne (Control Panel Network Connections) Right-click on the icon for the Dial-up Connection. This probably is under the category "Broadband" with the name of your ISP (RickNet?). Click the "Advanced" tab. The top section deals with Windows Firewall. You should have this "on". The bottom section deals with Internet Connection Sharing. At least the top box ("Allow other network users to connect ...") should be checked. After you confirm that the ICS box is checked and OK your way out of this dialog, open a Command Prompt window and run ipconfig /all Under "Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection", you should see the values IP address = 192.168.0.1 and Subnet mask 255.255.255.0. Do you see these values? **********YES FYI - When it's working, ICS forces the IP address of the LAN adapter in the "host" computer to 192.168.0.1. The LAN adapter in the "client" computer should be set to obtain an IP address automatically. Part of ICS will assign an IP address to the client computer's LAN adapter in the range 192.168.0.2 - 192.168.0.254. Right now, with the values you reported, you have the two computers connected in what's called "ad hoc" network mode, using Windows' "Automatic Private IP Addressing" (APIPA) scheme. This permits the two computers to share files, which is why your "Network Places" seems to work, but it doesn't connect the local network (the 2 computers) to the dial-up connection. ************* But still no joy om the connect thru Alysanne current info follows C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.54 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled ***end of reply ***** C:\ Dave wrote: Thank you for getting back to me Lem - I am truly lost - "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... It appears as if you have both computers with active dial-up connections. You don't want to have the dial-up connection on "David." Deleted all connections - we'll start over. LAN shows as connected/firewalled on both comps. Network Places are correctly displayed on both. You don't seem to have ICS enabled on "Alysanne." Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on Alysanne and check the box to indicate "This computer connects directly to the Internet"? After you saw the screen with the Workgroup name, you should have seen a summary screen listing the various settings. Did that screen show that Internet connection sharing was enabled? and that the firewall was enabled? Did that, all indications seem correct - Did you run the Network Setup Wizard on David and check the box to indicate "This computer connects to the Internet through another computer"? Yes . But when I open this connection it connects through David, and shows connected on David. It does not show as connected on Alysanne - which is the desired ultimate goal. I am unable to ping Alysanne from David. Shouldn't I be able to do this? We had this set up for years, with little difficulty. David is recovering from having to replace the bootable HD - a real mess, but this point just does not seem to want to get repaired. Would appreciate any further suggestions. Dave (aka DAVID) Dave wrote: Thanks all for the input Let me start with Lem's suggestion, I think I see how to do that The following, down to the line marked ********* is from the computer we would like to connect to Alysanne through the LAN to her modem -ISP Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Davecd.. C:\Documents and Settingscd.. C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : david Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connecti on Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-11-11-BD-7B-B8 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 169.254.238.31 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet Direct: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.72 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ *******The following is from the computer we would like to use to connect directly to the ISP ******* C:\ipconfig/all Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : ALYSANNE Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Mixed IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : Yes WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Cont roller Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0B-DB-2F-3B-65 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration IP Address. . . : 169.254.238.32 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : PPP adapter RickNet on ALYSANNE: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : WAN (PPP/SLIP) Interface Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-53-45-00-00-00 Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.255 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.71.148 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 12.163.69.100 12.127.16.68 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled C:\ "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... On each computer, open a command prompt window and type "ipconfig /all" (without quotes). Post results. What antivirus/firewall software is running on each computer? How to get ipconfig/all text into a post -- http://digitalmediaphile.wordpress.c...t-text-output/ Dave wrote: Lem - Your guesses on the LAN were correct - sorry I forgot to mention that. I went through the steps per you reference (Steve's?) website. (Download time on the various pages is a real hoot with a dial-up connection.) But no joy. I have done that exact ritual countless time with the same result - na da. Dave "Lem" lemp40@unknownhost wrote in message ... Dave wrote: I have 2 computers (both Win XP SP2) on a LAN, and each with a modem. I had one set up to act as the host so either could connect to the ISP through it. That system worked OK For other reasons, I changed that setup temporarily, but now I would like to go back to it. I had a similar post recently because I could not 'repair' the LAN. That has now been resolved thanks to Jack of this newsgroup. To save myself, I cannot get the original setup to work. I have tried about every combination of creating new connection, change settings, etc. I can find. Obviously I have not tried the CORRECT combination yet. What to do? I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. Thx Dave You don't give enough information about how you have your "LAN" configured. Guessing, it sounds as if you have an Ethernet cable connected between the 2 computers and you want use the modem on one of them (*only* one of them) to connect to the Internet and allow the second computer to access the Internet through the first one. If that's correct, you need to set up Internet Connection Sharing. See http://www.practicallynetworked.com/...rksetupwiz.htm (ignore the steps about creating the floppy disk; you don't need it because you have Win XP). -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm -- Lem -- MS-MVP To the moon and back with 2K words of RAM and 36K words of ROM. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Guidance_Computer http://history.nasa.gov/afj/compessay.htm
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