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  #16  
Old April 28th 16, 01:35 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dave Doe
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Default Don't, Don't, DON'T !

In article ,
, says...

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:45:57 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article , BigBadBob-
, Big Bad Bob says...

On 04/26/16 06:10,
so wittily quipped:
... especially if you're lucky enough, to be still using 7 !

Reason : Read this group messages.


most definitely - purchased 7 machine recently to replace an XP one so
accounting and tax software would continue being supported on "that
platform" for a while (Turbotax won't support XP at all after this year).

GWX would *seriously* ruin my day.

a) excess bandwidth to download "all of that ****"
b) FLUGLY 2D look when it got done
c) having to buy NEW VERSIONS to be compatible with 10

no thanks, I don't need the FRUSTRATION, IRRITATION, and EXPENSE of
having 10 "show up" on my computer.

so *ACK*.


Have you tried running your Windows 7 programs on Windows 10? What
programs, if any, don't work?


I've got about 100 programs written over the years, first in QB45,
then Visual Basic 3, then finaly about 7 in Visual Basic 6. Only the
VB6 stuff will even run in Windows 7 (which is the OS I use). Have to
us a virtual machine running Windows XP for all the rest ...


So old as the hills then. XP days. Again... what Windows 7 programs
won't work in Windows 10? (MS's Windows 7 development program = Visual
Studio, not Visual Basic 6!).

And even then, you can still virtualise (for free), as you've done in 7.

Virtualbox support goes back to Win 3.1 ...
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...23883&authkey=!
APim5Upymtt1Vvc&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

Hyper-v supports XP...
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/win...ll-windows-xp-
in-windows-8-client-hyper-v/

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...(v=ws.10).aspx

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...3fa-8bbc-4479-
b9e8-fe07737d19a1/problems-installing-windows-xp-with-windows-10-hyperv?
forum=win10itprovirt


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  #17  
Old April 28th 16, 12:40 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Don't, Don't, DON'T !

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:35:49 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article ,
, says...

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:45:57 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article , BigBadBob-
, Big Bad Bob says...

On 04/26/16 06:10,
so wittily quipped:
... especially if you're lucky enough, to be still using 7 !

Reason : Read this group messages.


most definitely - purchased 7 machine recently to replace an XP one so
accounting and tax software would continue being supported on "that
platform" for a while (Turbotax won't support XP at all after this year).

GWX would *seriously* ruin my day.

a) excess bandwidth to download "all of that ****"
b) FLUGLY 2D look when it got done
c) having to buy NEW VERSIONS to be compatible with 10

no thanks, I don't need the FRUSTRATION, IRRITATION, and EXPENSE of
having 10 "show up" on my computer.

so *ACK*.

Have you tried running your Windows 7 programs on Windows 10? What
programs, if any, don't work?


I've got about 100 programs written over the years, first in QB45,
then Visual Basic 3, then finaly about 7 in Visual Basic 6. Only the
VB6 stuff will even run in Windows 7 (which is the OS I use). Have to
us a virtual machine running Windows XP for all the rest ...


So old as the hills then. XP days. Again... what Windows 7 programs
won't work in Windows 10? (MS's Windows 7 development program = Visual
Studio, not Visual Basic 6!).

Old or not, really good and/or useful programs last 'n last ...

And even then, you can still virtualise (for free), as you've done in 7.

Virtualbox support goes back to Win 3.1 ...
https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resi...23883&authkey=!
APim5Upymtt1Vvc&v=3&ithint=photo%2cjpg

Hyper-v supports XP...
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/win...ll-windows-xp-
in-windows-8-client-hyper-v/

https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/...(v=ws.10).aspx

https://social.technet.microsoft.com...3fa-8bbc-4479-
b9e8-fe07737d19a1/problems-installing-windows-xp-with-windows-10-hyperv?
forum=win10itprovirt

  #18  
Old April 28th 16, 10:05 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dave Doe
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Default Don't, Don't, DON'T !

In article ,
, says...

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:35:49 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article ,
,
says...

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:45:57 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article , BigBadBob-
, Big Bad Bob says...

On 04/26/16 06:10,
so wittily quipped:
... especially if you're lucky enough, to be still using 7 !

Reason : Read this group messages.


most definitely - purchased 7 machine recently to replace an XP one so
accounting and tax software would continue being supported on "that
platform" for a while (Turbotax won't support XP at all after this year).

GWX would *seriously* ruin my day.

a) excess bandwidth to download "all of that ****"
b) FLUGLY 2D look when it got done
c) having to buy NEW VERSIONS to be compatible with 10

no thanks, I don't need the FRUSTRATION, IRRITATION, and EXPENSE of
having 10 "show up" on my computer.

so *ACK*.

Have you tried running your Windows 7 programs on Windows 10? What
programs, if any, don't work?

I've got about 100 programs written over the years, first in QB45,
then Visual Basic 3, then finaly about 7 in Visual Basic 6. Only the
VB6 stuff will even run in Windows 7 (which is the OS I use). Have to
us a virtual machine running Windows XP for all the rest ...


So old as the hills then. XP days. Again... what Windows 7 programs
won't work in Windows 10? (MS's Windows 7 development program = Visual
Studio, not Visual Basic 6!).

Old or not, really good and/or useful programs last 'n last ...


Worthwhile re-coding in Visual Studio It probably wouldn't take
much.

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  #19  
Old April 29th 16, 07:26 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Big Bad Bob
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Default Don't, Don't, DON'T !

On 04/27/16 17:22, Dave Doe so wittily quipped:
I'd concede that the borders on some programs; MS's Edge browser, Office
2016 programs; take a little getting used to. I certainly don't find it
ugly or nauseating. Clean, is the word that springs to my mind. Each to
their own I guess.


ugly, distracting, makes me unable to get things done. "Bad Feng Shui"

the whole 2D look bugs me. I couldn't use "Ape" because of it, not even
with 'Classic Shell' installed. It just *bugged* me seeing it. It's
like having a BAD PAINT COLOR on the walls in your office. "How come
you can't work in there?" Well, should be *OBVIOUS*.

And MS is doing what they can to REMOVE OUR CHOICE about these kinds of
things. And GWX continues to try and SHOVE Win-10-nic up our asses
whether we want it or not.

Thinking of GWX...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04...ws_10_live_tv/


  #20  
Old April 29th 16, 12:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
No_Name
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Default Don't, Don't, DON'T !

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 23:26:23 -0700, Big Bad Bob
wrote:

On 04/27/16 17:22, Dave Doe so wittily quipped:
I'd concede that the borders on some programs; MS's Edge browser, Office
2016 programs; take a little getting used to. I certainly don't find it
ugly or nauseating. Clean, is the word that springs to my mind. Each to
their own I guess.


ugly, distracting, makes me unable to get things done. "Bad Feng Shui"

the whole 2D look bugs me. I couldn't use "Ape" because of it, not even
with 'Classic Shell' installed. It just *bugged* me seeing it. It's
like having a BAD PAINT COLOR on the walls in your office. "How come
you can't work in there?" Well, should be *OBVIOUS*.

And MS is doing what they can to REMOVE OUR CHOICE about these kinds of
things. And GWX continues to try and SHOVE Win-10-nic up our asses
whether we want it or not.

Thinking of GWX...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04...ws_10_live_tv/

M$ has a moral responsibility to only produce s**t that's totally
compatible with, (let's face it) their OS etc.! Yes, so far, you can
easily keep ahead of them, if you're a little computer savy, and keep
your eyes open. Anyone who upgrades beyond 7, is just plain nuts. But
what about others ? ...
  #21  
Old April 29th 16, 01:12 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
No_Name
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Default Don't, Don't, DON'T !

On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:05:16 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article ,
, says...

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:35:49 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article ,
,
says...

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:45:57 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article , BigBadBob-
, Big Bad Bob says...

On 04/26/16 06:10,
so wittily quipped:
... especially if you're lucky enough, to be still using 7 !

Reason : Read this group messages.


most definitely - purchased 7 machine recently to replace an XP one so
accounting and tax software would continue being supported on "that
platform" for a while (Turbotax won't support XP at all after this year).

GWX would *seriously* ruin my day.

a) excess bandwidth to download "all of that ****"
b) FLUGLY 2D look when it got done
c) having to buy NEW VERSIONS to be compatible with 10

no thanks, I don't need the FRUSTRATION, IRRITATION, and EXPENSE of
having 10 "show up" on my computer.

so *ACK*.

Have you tried running your Windows 7 programs on Windows 10? What
programs, if any, don't work?

I've got about 100 programs written over the years, first in QB45,
then Visual Basic 3, then finaly about 7 in Visual Basic 6. Only the
VB6 stuff will even run in Windows 7 (which is the OS I use). Have to
us a virtual machine running Windows XP for all the rest ...

So old as the hills then. XP days. Again... what Windows 7 programs
won't work in Windows 10? (MS's Windows 7 development program = Visual
Studio, not Visual Basic 6!).

Old or not, really good and/or useful programs last 'n last ...


Worthwhile re-coding in Visual Studio It probably wouldn't take
much.


Aren't a big fan of "Visual Studio".

Don't think that'll cover the QB45 stuff, in any case, which is
substantial.

Didn't like what it did to the others.
  #22  
Old April 30th 16, 12:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Dave Doe
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Posts: 481
Default Don't, Don't, DON'T !

In article ,
, says...

On Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:05:16 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article ,
,
says...

On Thu, 28 Apr 2016 12:35:49 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article ,
,
says...

On Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:45:57 +1200, Dave Doe wrote:

In article , BigBadBob-
, Big Bad Bob says...

On 04/26/16 06:10,
so wittily quipped:
... especially if you're lucky enough, to be still using 7 !

Reason : Read this group messages.


most definitely - purchased 7 machine recently to replace an XP one so
accounting and tax software would continue being supported on "that
platform" for a while (Turbotax won't support XP at all after this year).

GWX would *seriously* ruin my day.

a) excess bandwidth to download "all of that ****"
b) FLUGLY 2D look when it got done
c) having to buy NEW VERSIONS to be compatible with 10

no thanks, I don't need the FRUSTRATION, IRRITATION, and EXPENSE of
having 10 "show up" on my computer.

so *ACK*.

Have you tried running your Windows 7 programs on Windows 10? What
programs, if any, don't work?

I've got about 100 programs written over the years, first in QB45,
then Visual Basic 3, then finaly about 7 in Visual Basic 6. Only the
VB6 stuff will even run in Windows 7 (which is the OS I use). Have to
us a virtual machine running Windows XP for all the rest ...

So old as the hills then. XP days. Again... what Windows 7 programs
won't work in Windows 10? (MS's Windows 7 development program = Visual
Studio, not Visual Basic 6!).

Old or not, really good and/or useful programs last 'n last ...


Worthwhile re-coding in Visual Studio It probably wouldn't take
much.


Aren't a big fan of "Visual Studio".

Don't think that'll cover the QB45 stuff, in any case, which is
substantial.

Didn't like what it did to the others.


Well sure, they headhunted the awesome Delphi programming team @
Borland. And VB became Visual Studio. That's just business isn't it?

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  #23  
Old April 30th 16, 02:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Good Guy[_2_]
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On 30/04/2016 00:09, Dave Doe wrote:
Well sure, they headhunted the awesome Delphi programming team @
Borland. And VB became Visual Studio. That's just business isn't it?



Not quite. VB is still VB but Delphi became C#. C# has taken over from
VB and people are using C# for almost everything including writing Web
Applications. Microsoft has made C# Open source just like ASP.Net has
become Open Source. Plans are afoot to make SQL server available on nix
systems. Personally, I don't like this to be on Nix but hey, it is
Microsoft who rules the world.

It looks like Microsoft products are becoming almost free but their
Azure services is very expensive. I just looked up the price for
hosting a commercial web APP on Azure and it costs some thing like $7500
pre-paid or they charge you by the minute.

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