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Old January 10th 18, 07:08 AM posted to alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system, comp.os.vms
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In article
Char Jackson wrote:

On 9 Jan 2018 13:11:55 -0500, (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
After the Berlin wall came down in '89, I used to regularly see Trabbies
(Trabant) broken down beside the road. When they did run, they smoked
and barely made it up even modest hills.


They are _supposed_ to smoke. It's a 2-cycle engine, that's what makes it
work.
--scott


No, I'm aware that they have 2-cycle engines. I'm talking about a volume
of smoke way beyond what I'd expect.


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  #302  
Old January 10th 18, 07:42 AM posted to alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system, comp.os.vms
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In article
Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Jan-Erik Soderholm
wrote:

Den 2018-01-09 kl. 14:16, skrev Tim Streater:
In article , Jan-Erik Soderholm
wrote:

Den 2018-01-09 kl. 10:58, skrev Tim Streater:
In article , Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-01-08 14:59, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
[...]
If you run the gasoline engine on bio-fuels produced from plants
growing *today*, there is no issue with the C02 emissions.

There is a net addition to the CO2 load, because it costs energy (ie,
fuel) to produce the biofuel. That cost can be stated as the proportion
of the fuel needed to produce it. That is, how many litres of some fuel
does it take to produce 100 litres of the stuff?

And how much land to produce the 100 litres each year every year? Or to
produce enough biofuel for one vehicle's annual driving?


What kind of "vehicle"? You can probably forget all those V8's...

No, bio-fuel is not the only solution. There will be other fueld
neededf and at the samre time another way to "build" our communities
that does not need the amount of car travels as today.

And bio-fuel is not only about growing stuff out on the fields, it
is also gas produced from ordinary household waste.

Biofuel is not a solution at all.


So then, what is the solution to get rid of the fossil fuels?


Nuclear. Much the safest and reliable.

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  #303  
Old January 10th 18, 02:08 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.vms
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Char Jackson wrote:

(Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

After the Berlin wall came down in '89, I used to regularly see Trabbies
(Trabant) broken down beside the road. When they did run, they smoked
and barely made it up even modest hills.


They are _supposed_ to smoke. It's a 2-cycle engine, that's what makes it
work.
--scott


No, I'm aware that they have 2-cycle engines. I'm talking about a volume
of smoke way beyond what I'd expect.


Well, it *must* have been the best car for the people. The committee
said so! Such superior quality and customer service can only come
from focusing on a single obvious choice product for the masses.
Also, the people were spared the confusion of having to choose from
many different cars, and the effort of needing to test drive all of
them before choosing!
/sarcasm

Believe it or not, that's the kind of stupidity that trolls cola.
"Too much choice makes people less happy" and "All choices must be
personally tried before making a choice".

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  #304  
Old January 10th 18, 02:22 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.vms
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Tim Streater wrote:

If the Japanese panicked and made a mess of the unnecessary evacuation
that's hardly the fault of nuclear power. The problem is that people
have been lied to about the scale of the danger.


^^^^ This is the kind of person who voted for Trump.

It's all fake news, man!

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  #305  
Old January 10th 18, 03:10 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.vms
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Den 2018-01-10 kl. 10:15, skrev Tim Streater:
In article , Jan-Erik Soderholm
wrote:

"The final death toll from Chernobyl is subject to speculation ...


That's right: speculation.


So show the non-speculative sources! Your words is worth nothing.

And that it *is* hard to calculate is of course the reason the
range is from 9,000 to 90,000. Still far from your figure of 75.


  #306  
Old January 10th 18, 03:13 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.vms
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Den 2018-01-10 kl. 06:59, skrev DaveFroble:
Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
Den 2018-01-09 kl. 22:41, skrev Tim Streater:
In article , Jan-Erik Soderholm
wrote:

Den 2018-01-09 kl. 14:16, skrev Tim Streater:
In article , Jan-Erik Soderholm
wrote:

Den 2018-01-09 kl. 10:58, skrev Tim Streater:
In article , Wolf K
wrote:

On 2018-01-08 14:59, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
[...]
If you run the gasoline engine on bio-fuels produced from plants
growing *today*, there is no issue with the C02 emissions.

There is a net addition to the CO2 load, because it costs energy
(ie, fuel) to produce the biofuel. That cost can be stated as the
proportion of the fuel needed to produce it. That is, how many
litres of some fuel does it take to produce 100 litres of the stuff?

And how much land to produce the 100 litres each year every year? Or to
produce enough biofuel for one vehicle's annual driving?


What kind of "vehicle"? You can probably forget all those V8's...

No, bio-fuel is not the only solution. There will be other fueld
neededf and at the samre time another way to "build" our communities
that does not need the amount of car travels as today.

And bio-fuel is not only about growing stuff out on the fields, it
is also gas produced from ordinary household waste.

Biofuel is not a solution at all.

So then, what is the solution to get rid of the fossil fuels?

Nuclear. Much the safest and reliable.


Nuclear is a dead end and pushing the issues with waste storage onto
many future generations. The nuclear *plans* are quite OK when in
production but a real pain to decommission.




So then, it's just an engineering issue, right?

Better design, better planning, and such.

Just where did that waste come from?...


It comes from the process within the nucelar plant, of course.
And the issue is the long time storage. 100,000 years or whatever.

It should be a manageable problem.


Some thinks that 100,000 years is manageable timeframe.
I'm a little more sceptical.

  #307  
Old January 10th 18, 03:36 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.vms
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On 01/10/2018 12:50 AM, DaveFroble wrote:
Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

Solar, thermal, wind, and for consistency, nuclear.

The first three are worthless ...


Right so far.

...and the last is the most dangerous thing on Earth.


Total balls.

At TMI and Fukushima, no one killed or injured. At Chernobyl (where
they had to work very hard to make even a poorly designed reactor have
a meltdown), less than 100 dead. Per terrawatt-hour of energy produced,
much the safest way to generate electricity. As you'd know if you refer
to the Without-the-hot-air website I referred you to.


Anything can be dangerous.

Three Mile Island, if I have my facts straight, was a rather new
facility, with fairly new operators.Â* Inadequately trained operators.

Water level was dropping in the core.Â* A particular valve had 600 PSI on
one side, and 200 PSI on the otherside.Â* Closed, right?Â* WRONG!Â* If they
had closed the valve, no problem would have occurred.Â* High pressure
steam can be funny that way.

I think better design might have given indications of the status of the
valve.

So, some rabble rouser says some things, and people who don't have a
clue believe it, then the mob is off and running.


I always get a kick out of people talking about TMI. I was
stationed in Germany with the Army when it happened what I
saw were the API reports in Stars and Stripes our "local"
newspaper. Two of them stick with me.

One was a picture of a man looking skyward thru what appeared
to be a tube and the caption: "Worker measuring radioactive
levels outside the Three Mile Island reactor building." Being
a CBR NCO at the time I maintained a couple dozen of those
"tubes". They were IM-174/PD Pocket Dosimeters. Not some
device for measuring radiation in the air. You read them by
looking thru them in the direction of some light, like the
daytime sky.

The other was a story that started out with a glaring headline
and then told of a man coming home and finding his wife about
to drink water from the tap. He slaps the glass out of her
hand smashing it on the floor saying " You can't drink that,
there has been a disaster at Three Mile Island." If the water
she was going to drink came from the Susquehanna River below
Wilkes-Barre radiation would be the least of her problems.
The Lackawanna Sanitary Authority dumps raw sewage into the
Lackawanna River which feeds into the Susquehanna River.
According to a survey done by people from Penn State Univ.
when they were talking about a recreational dam just below
Wilkes Barre if this discharge stopped it would take at least
25 years before the water would be usable recreationally.
There is also still considerable mine discharge in both the
Lackawanna and Susquehanna Rivers. They fish the river
around Wilkes Barre but people are told not to eat the fish.

Yes, Three Mile Island is downstream from Wilkes Barre.

But, sensationalism sells newspapers. And nothing feeds
sensationalism like scare mongering "nuclear disaster"
stories.

bill


  #308  
Old January 10th 18, 03:39 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.vms
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On 01/10/2018 12:44 AM, DaveFroble wrote:
Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:18:05 -0500, DaveFroble
wrote:


So then, what is the solution to get rid of the fossil fuels?


Solar, thermal, wind, and for consistency, nuclear.


The first three are worthless and the last is the most dangerous thing
on Earth.


Worthless?Â* Then I wonder what the solar panels I have are doing.Â* Sure
seems to do away with my electric bill.

Thermal can be very good, in locations where it's available.

I can look out my window and see windmills.Â* Gee, I wonder what they are
there for, if they are worthless for producing electricity.

I have to ask, what do you know about "nuclear", or, are you one of
those idiots that don't know anything about it, but curse the word?
Anything can be dangerous.Â* Nuclear done right is as safe as anything
else.Â* I have reason to "KNOW" this.

Nuclear is always on.

Hydrogen and oxygen reactions are rather eco friendly, though there
are some nitrogen based products we could do without.


Hydrogen is the only one that I believe has potential.


Ok, how do you produce the hydrogen?Â* You gonna run some collection
ships through Jupiter's atmosphere?


They're going to mine it from the sun. Don't worry about the heat.
They're going to go at night.

bill

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Old January 10th 18, 03:51 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

The computers are indeed faster and more powerful today, but they're
being bogged down with over-bloated operating systems and apps, and
people installing a pile of background-running rubbish they don't
really need or use (as well as anti-malware in the Windows systems).
There was a recent article where the keyboard input of an old Apple II
appeared on the screen faster than when using any modern computer
(although it was only tiny fractions of a second difference).


I like watching some of the The 8-Bit Guy's videos and he made a point
about how quickly the computers of yesteryear loaded compared to
today's. My old TI994/A was ready to go the moment you flipped the
switch and it seems that even later computers like the Atari ST were
too. They were primitive and could only do a fraction of what today's
machines can but its users could get to work immediately rather than
wait for the OS to load, the anti-virus, the VPN and all of the other
junk.


sleep/wake is instant.

shut down/reboot takes longer, but even that is just a few seconds
these days.
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Old January 10th 18, 04:18 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:51:22 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:

The computers are indeed faster and more powerful today, but they're
being bogged down with over-bloated operating systems and apps, and
people installing a pile of background-running rubbish they don't
really need or use (as well as anti-malware in the Windows systems).
There was a recent article where the keyboard input of an old Apple II
appeared on the screen faster than when using any modern computer
(although it was only tiny fractions of a second difference).


I like watching some of the The 8-Bit Guy's videos and he made a point
about how quickly the computers of yesteryear loaded compared to
today's. My old TI994/A was ready to go the moment you flipped the
switch and it seems that even later computers like the Atari ST were
too. They were primitive and could only do a fraction of what today's
machines can but its users could get to work immediately rather than
wait for the OS to load, the anti-virus, the VPN and all of the other
junk.


sleep/wake is instant.


It is. However, in some operating systems, putting the computer to
sleep is risky. Depending on the hardware you're using, it can lead to
an unwakeable machine in Linux and anyone who isn't a complete liar
admits that it's the truth (ie: ignore Faggot Ahlstrom, Peter the
Klöwn and chrisv who will claim it's a lie). Windows and the Mac fare
much better, obviously.

shut down/reboot takes longer, but even that is just a few seconds
these days.


With an SSD, an M.2 or NVMe, sure. With a traditional hard disk, not
so much.
  #311  
Old January 10th 18, 04:40 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.vms
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Bill Gunshannon wrote:
On 01/10/2018 12:44 AM, DaveFroble wrote:
Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:18:05 -0500, DaveFroble
wrote:


So then, what is the solution to get rid of the fossil fuels?


Solar, thermal, wind, and for consistency, nuclear.

The first three are worthless and the last is the most dangerous thing
on Earth.


Worthless? Then I wonder what the solar panels I have are doing.
Sure seems to do away with my electric bill.

Thermal can be very good, in locations where it's available.

I can look out my window and see windmills. Gee, I wonder what they
are there for, if they are worthless for producing electricity.

I have to ask, what do you know about "nuclear", or, are you one of
those idiots that don't know anything about it, but curse the word?
Anything can be dangerous. Nuclear done right is as safe as anything
else. I have reason to "KNOW" this.

Nuclear is always on.

Hydrogen and oxygen reactions are rather eco friendly, though there
are some nitrogen based products we could do without.

Hydrogen is the only one that I believe has potential.


Ok, how do you produce the hydrogen? You gonna run some collection
ships through Jupiter's atmosphere?


They're going to mine it from the sun. Don't worry about the heat.
They're going to go at night.

bill


STOP IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm an old man, I cannot handle the stress. You're making me laugh myself to death!


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170 Grimplin Road
Vanderbilt, PA 15486
  #312  
Old January 10th 18, 04:44 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


I like watching some of the The 8-Bit Guy's videos and he made a point
about how quickly the computers of yesteryear loaded compared to
today's. My old TI994/A was ready to go the moment you flipped the
switch and it seems that even later computers like the Atari ST were
too. They were primitive and could only do a fraction of what today's
machines can but its users could get to work immediately rather than
wait for the OS to load, the anti-virus, the VPN and all of the other
junk.


sleep/wake is instant.


It is. However, in some operating systems, putting the computer to
sleep is risky.


only poorly designed operating systems.

sleep/wake has been around for more than 25 years and works
exceptionally well.

Depending on the hardware you're using, it can lead to
an unwakeable machine in Linux and anyone who isn't a complete liar
admits that it's the truth (ie: ignore Faggot Ahlstrom, Peter the
Klöwn and chrisv who will claim it's a lie). Windows and the Mac fare
much better, obviously.


linux is open source, so find out what's wrong and implement a fix.

shut down/reboot takes longer, but even that is just a few seconds
these days.


With an SSD, an M.2 or NVMe, sure. With a traditional hard disk, not
so much.


that's why i said these days.

hds are only useful for larger assets and less commonly used assets.
everything else is ssd.
  #313  
Old January 10th 18, 05:01 PM posted to alt.test, alt.comp.os.windows-10, comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system, comp.os.vms
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In article
DaveFroble wrote:

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
On 01/10/2018 12:44 AM, DaveFroble wrote:
Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Tue, 09 Jan 2018 12:18:05 -0500, DaveFroble
wrote:

So then, what is the solution to get rid of the fossil fuels?


Solar, thermal, wind, and for consistency, nuclear.

The first three are worthless and the last is the most dangerous thing
on Earth.

Worthless? Then I wonder what the solar panels I have are doing.
Sure seems to do away with my electric bill.

Thermal can be very good, in locations where it's available.

I can look out my window and see windmills. Gee, I wonder what they
are there for, if they are worthless for producing electricity.

I have to ask, what do you know about "nuclear", or, are you one of
those idiots that don't know anything about it, but curse the word?
Anything can be dangerous. Nuclear done right is as safe as anything
else. I have reason to "KNOW" this.

Nuclear is always on.

Hydrogen and oxygen reactions are rather eco friendly, though there
are some nitrogen based products we could do without.

Hydrogen is the only one that I believe has potential.

Ok, how do you produce the hydrogen? You gonna run some collection
ships through Jupiter's atmosphere?


They're going to mine it from the sun. Don't worry about the heat.
They're going to go at night.

bill


STOP IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm an old man, I cannot handle the stress. You're making me laugh myself to death!


--
David Froble Tel: 724-529-0450
Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc. E-Mail:
DFE Ultralights, Inc.
170 Grimplin Road
Vanderbilt, PA 15486


  #314  
Old January 10th 18, 05:55 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 10:44:42 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Doomsdrzej
wrote:


I like watching some of the The 8-Bit Guy's videos and he made a point
about how quickly the computers of yesteryear loaded compared to
today's. My old TI994/A was ready to go the moment you flipped the
switch and it seems that even later computers like the Atari ST were
too. They were primitive and could only do a fraction of what today's
machines can but its users could get to work immediately rather than
wait for the OS to load, the anti-virus, the VPN and all of the other
junk.

sleep/wake is instant.


It is. However, in some operating systems, putting the computer to
sleep is risky.


only poorly designed operating systems.


The operating system itself is fine but certain elements of it are
not. ACPI, in Linux, is a hit or a miss.

sleep/wake has been around for more than 25 years and works
exceptionally well.


Not with all hardware in Linux.

Depending on the hardware you're using, it can lead to
an unwakeable machine in Linux and anyone who isn't a complete liar
admits that it's the truth (ie: ignore Faggot Ahlstrom, Peter the
Klöwn and chrisv who will claim it's a lie). Windows and the Mac fare
much better, obviously.


linux is open source, so find out what's wrong and implement a fix.


They've been trying forever and not managed to get everything working
right. In some cass, just changing a line in GRUB is all that it
takes. In other cases, it's perfect out of the box whereas in others,
nothing works at all. It's next to impossible to make the unliminted
amount of hardware configurations work as well as they do so I can't
fault the developers too much. Apple's job is much easier which is why
it generally works perfectly.

shut down/reboot takes longer, but even that is just a few seconds
these days.


With an SSD, an M.2 or NVMe, sure. With a traditional hard disk, not
so much.


that's why i said these days.

hds are only useful for larger assets and less commonly used assets.
everything else is ssd.


As it should be.
  #315  
Old January 10th 18, 07:06 PM posted to alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.comp.os.windows-10,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.os.vms
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Wolf K wrote:

Ground effect heat pumps will cut heating/cooling costs by at least 50%.
They are twice to three times as efficient a air-to-air heat pumps, aka
"air conditioners".


Not a new technology either. A local theatre recently replaced a ground
sink AC system that was installed in 1934 by Carrier, using an underground
ammonia loop.
--scott

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