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On 01/08/2012 05:07 PM, Roy Smith wrote:
On 1/8/2012 8:53 AM, Alias wrote: On 01/08/2012 03:36 PM, Roy Smith wrote: On 1/8/2012 5:13 AM, BillW50 wrote: In , philo wrote: All well and good but in the case of root kits... what would lead someone to suspect one is when their credit card or bank account gets compromised... in other words *too late* That's why I moved over to Linux 2+ years ago You are a Linux user and don't know what Root means? That is where the rootkit was originally created for. Hacking into Linux and Unix machines. It just amazes me how many Linux users who knows nothing about Linux malware. Most Linux users don't run AV software or anything. And they could be totally infected with malware and still be totally clueless. I honestly didn't know that, so I went to Wikipedia and found this: The term rootkit or root kit originally referred to a maliciously-modified set of administrative tools for a Unix-like operating system that granted "root" access. If an intruder could replace the standard administrative tools on a system with a rootkit, the intruder could obtain root access over the system whilst simultaneously concealing these activities from the legitimate system administrator. These first generation rootkits were trivial to detect by using tools such as Tripwire that had not been compromised to access the same information. It amazes me how the most die-hard Linux user claims that they are impervious to viruses. Though truth be know it's more likely that there isn't much of an interest in targeting such a small demographic, and the interest is in targeting the most common OS on PCs today. Now if things were the other way and Linux was the most popular OS on PCs then we would be hearing about viruses on them instead. Thank you for regurgitating MS FUD. It's bull****. In your opinion.... just think about it, if you were of a criminal mind and wanted to write a malware program to acquire bank account numbers and you had your choice of three OSs. OS #1 has a base of 1,500,000 users, OS #2 has 9,000,000 users, and OS #3 has 250,000,000 users. Which one would you choose? I would think #3, not because it may be easier to write malware for that OS, but because it has far more users than the other OSs thus increasing your chances of obtaining your goal. That's fine and dandy but isn't the reason why Linux is bullet ****ing proof compared to Windows. Nor does it explain why Windows 7 is more secure than XP. -- Alias |
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Alias wrote: Devout Windows users like you believe the MS FUD. Windows 7 is more secure than XP due to its UAC and other features but enjoys a large market share. Oops. What no references again? If you want some credibility, you need to have some reliable references. Here let me help you. Users distributed by the operating system that has been exposed to malicious code. 58% Windows Vista/7 41% Windows XP 3% Windows 2003 2% Windows 2000 0% Windows 98 This is how Windows get infected with malware http://net-security.org/malware_news.php?id=1863 Unless I am missing something here, this study seems to suggest that Windows 98 and 2000 are the safest Windows versions so far. Probably because modern malware can't even run on them would be my guess. ;-) -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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BillW50 wrote:
You are a Linux user and don't know what Root means? That is where the rootkit was originally created for. Hacking into Linux and Unix machines. It just amazes me how many Linux users who knows nothing about Linux malware. Most Linux users don't run AV software or anything. And they could be totally infected with malware and still be totally clueless. Most Linux users are hobbyists and computer enthusiasts and so if their system is infected, it does not matter at all. Windows users are serious users who are using their systems to make a living and so the system needs to be as secure as possible. --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to --- |
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Alias wrote:
IOW, user stupidity and not the fault of Linux. you can also say this to Windows user. It is user stupidity - not the fault of windows for infected systems. --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to --- |
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Cheng Heng wrote: BillW50 wrote: You are a Linux user and don't know what Root means? That is where the rootkit was originally created for. Hacking into Linux and Unix machines. It just amazes me how many Linux users who knows nothing about Linux malware. Most Linux users don't run AV software or anything. And they could be totally infected with malware and still be totally clueless. Most Linux users are hobbyists and computer enthusiasts and so if their system is infected, it does not matter at all. I agree up to a point. But some also do online banking and other stuff under Linux that would be very bad if a bad guy got a hold of. Windows users are serious users who are using their systems to make a living and so the system needs to be as secure as possible. There is so much focus on Windows security that malware is having a hard time getting through. Linux on the other hand is wide open since the mass majority of them don't even think about security. That Gentoo's repository is a good example as it had a Linux trojan go unnoticed for about 7 months. In the Windows world, this would have been stopped almost instantly. Linux: Infected by Complacency http://computingondemand.com/linux-i...y-complacency/ -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo T2400 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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On 01/08/2012 11:10 PM, Cheng Heng wrote:
Alias wrote: IOW, user stupidity and not the fault of Linux. you can also say this to Windows user. It is user stupidity - not the fault of windows for infected systems. --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net/ - Complaints to --- Never heard of drive by malware? -- Alias |
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