Toshiba W-7 went dark

In message , HB writes:
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When I did a system recovery on the Tosh' when I first got it from my
realtive used, isn't that where the "recovery" comes from? I had no disks
for it. It was like new after the System Recovery.

The recovery partition, if there is one, is usually not visible to the
user when normally using Windows; if the user can see C: and D:, and there
_is_ a recovery partition as well, then there will be _three_ partitions.

On this HP desktop, I see a

C: which says OS (operating system)
D: which says (HP Recovery)
F: which says (System)

On the Tosh all I remember seeing was a C: and D:.

Interesting. On all the PCS I've ever dealt with, there's been a hidden
partition, which is not normally visible at all from within Windows, and
then either just C:, or C: and D:, where they're of similar size or D:
is bigger. However, it sounds as if your HP desktop is different, and
also, the disc from your Toshiba laptop also sounds as if it has a 1½G
hidden partition, a C: partition which takes most of the rest of the
disc, and a small D:, which may indeed be some sort of recovery/image
partition.

For the moment, I'd say disconnect the Toshiba drive from the Toshiba:
all the time it is on power, it's not going to get better, and might get
worse - and it doesn't seem to be very well at all. When we've decided
on a way forward, _then_ it can be reconnected to power. In the
meantime, you can still play with fatdog Linux to get familiar with some
of what it can do, _if_ you want to - it will work without the HD
present. Though you may not want to.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Anything you add for security will slow the computer but it shouldn't be
significant or prolonged. Security software is to protect the computer, not
the primary use of the computer.
- VanguardLH in alt.windows7.general, 2018-1-28

HB wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
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In message , HB writes:

. (We haven't tested the sound, wifi, or
USB parts, but I have no reason to believe they aren't fine. They _can_
be tested from Linux if necessary, but someone else will have to tell
you how. I don't think it's necessary.)

So I would have to find a legal copy of W-7 64bit somewhere. I know the
disk I made from this PC wont boot the Toshiba. And it's also a W-7 64bit.
A new disk would get it to boot? I know the rescue disks wont boot it.

I don't know if this is helpful or not but they're images from Linux of the
Toshiba's information I took this afternoon.

https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/03ec0845/
https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg === Disktype
https://s26.postimg.org/hx3j203o9/IM004778.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/clomhapbd/IM004779.jpg === SMART
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj58s9/IM004780.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/v193epql5/IM004781.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj5gi1/IM004782.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5igr1peqx/IM004783.jpg


So the disktype picture says

Partition 1 0x27 (Hidden NTFS?) 1.465GB

Then a 1MB gap before next partition (roughly)
Or it could be 1MB gap (2048 sectors) plus 63 sectors (CHS track).

Partition 2 0x07 (NTFS) 222.4GB Likely to be C:

Has a disk error when reading a couple sectors past the
PBS (Partition Boot Sector).

Partition 3 0x07 (NTFS) 9GB Could be the Toshiba recovery

The command did not appear to be able to confirm (3) is
actually an NTFS partition. All it knows is the 0x07 part.
Maybe the read error in Partition 2, caused it to bail
without doing any analysis of Partition 3.

*******

The SMART says 453 reallocated, maybe at 60% life or so.

Offline_Uncorrectable of 53.

So yeah, it's not a happy drive.

*******

The Error 930 looks like it encountered a problem after
the power came on, it recorded an internal register dump,
and eventually came up. That means it was finally able to
read the Service Area, and loaded the firmware. Or it
wouldn't talk to us.

*******

While the words "Fail" are not printed on any screen,
that disk isn't very healthy.

It hasn't died yet, but it has an error in a
key location that looks like trouble.

I can't tell the total quantity of errors, whether
the C: partition is obliterated, or there's only
an error in the file system header.

Now that I've seen that, I might try ddrescue, but
with a sinking feeling it's not going to help. I don't
know whether CHKDSK can repair something like that.

You would use ddrescue to clone that 250GB drive, to
another drive of similar size or larger. Regular cloning
utilities are going to barf when they hit that read error.
Some commercial utilities, have a copy of ddrescue built-in
and can copy sector by sector.

Scavenging personal files off the machine might make
sense, if someone cared, but I don't know if
scavenging the OS makes sense. It's a cost/value
tradeoff.

You can certain buy a replacement drive, install Windows 7
on it using the COA sticker xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx
license key. And carry on. It's even possible to put Windows 7
on a USB key, and install it from there. That won't work if the
computer is year 2005 or older, since the older computers
like that won't boot from USB.

Paul

Paul wrote:
Now that I've seen that, I might try ddrescue, but
with a sinking feeling it's not going to help. I don't
know whether CHKDSK can repair something like that.

ddrescue is available but not installed by default on fatdog

slapt-get -i ddrescue

He could boot up something like hirens and use its chkdsk.



--
Mike Easter

In message , HB writes:
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So I would have to find a legal copy of W-7 64bit somewhere. I know the

This is one of the things we're hoping to find you a way of downloading.

disk I made from this PC wont boot the Toshiba. And it's also a W-7 64bit.

That's very odd, since you're successfully booting the fatdog Linux OK.
I still suspect you're not making them right. You can always try booting
the desktop from them.

A new disk would get it to boot? I know the rescue disks wont boot it.

It certainly ought to.

I don't know if this is helpful or not but they're images from Linux of the
Toshiba's information I took this afternoon.

They're good and useful. Though PLEASE find out how to take pictures
WITHOUT the flash - or, stick some tape over the flash! We don't need to
see the surround of the screen, or the pillow or whatever it is you've
got it resting on, and the flash is reflecting off the middle of the
screen where we're trying to read! Without that, we can just about make
out what they say.
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I'll analyse what they say in another post.

In noticed this: Error 930 occured at disk power-on lifetime:1243 hours (51
days + 19 hours) When the command that caused the error occured, the device
was active or idle.

1243 hours doesn't seem long; you've been unlucky. Assuming that's the
total time it's been on power, rather than some sort of (faulty)
prediction of the lifetime it has left.

I noticed that quite a few of the errors shown in the screens seem to
have happened between six and seven minutes after power-on, but that
_could_ just be the last few in the log at the time you examined it, and
they had been happening every few seconds from power-on.
[]
Please see what it brought up this time. Pics are above. It brought up a
lot of info.

Indeed!
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What is the PBC? I'm looking at those images still don't know which to buy

PCB, printed circuit board, the bit at the front of the housing. But
you've chosen to go for a "cable" instead of the housing or the dock, so
that's irrelevant now.
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saw anyone use anything like this. Where does that metal tab on the HD go?

(Not sure what you mean by that metal tab; a SATA drive just has the two
connectors. Anything else is just mounting arrangements. Post a picture
of the drive if you like, and we'll say what's what.)

It appears to be for mounting the HD and keeping it snugly in place.

Ah yes, I know the sort of thing. It isn't part of the drive, just a
sort of clip/clamp/cover.
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One USB port works the Seagate. The DT PC has 2 USB ports close together.
The Tosh's HD can lay there naked as a Jay-bird, uncased, since it would
only be to test the Tosh's HD, not be a permanant extra external HD.

One USB plug would _probably_ be OK; obviously the drive in the Seagate,
plus the little bit of electronics in its housing, obviously _does_ run
on just the power that one USB socket can supply. But you've ordered a
"cable" with two plugs, so we can be _sure_ it will work.
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Since nothing I tried stopped the MS's updates on W-10, the next time MS may

No, once you're _on_ W10 (either because a PC came with it or it has
been upgraded from 7 or 8 to 10), you have no further control over
upgrades. I was talking about the upgrade from 7 to 10, which _could_ be
stopped - but the "danger" of that has, most people think, passed
anyway, now.

also force W-11 and 12 and how knows how many other "upgrades/updates" on
us.
(I think MS have said 10 will be the last to actually be called anything
different - but it will just "update" on a continuous basis. But that's
beyond the current problem.)
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under W7 anyway), it was an OE6 lookalike (from xsforall IIRR). And I
think even that got better (started remembering passwords again).

Yeah! Software, heal thyself. I call it OE6 for lack of a better short
name for it.

OExs? Anyway, never mind for now.
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You might also consider getting a 2.5" SATA drive: it does rather look
as if the one in the Tosh is unwell, so would have to be replaced, but
even if it isn't, you could use it for keeping backup images on, as you
do the Seagate one.

This is true and will be passing Best Buy in a week or so. I want to check
in with them. Do the images of what
smartctl -a /dev/sda brought up this time help any?

I think they tell us that it's very unwell - and also that it's a 250G
or so. Though - online anyway - I think you'll find there's little
difference in price between a 250G (if you can even _find_ a new one)
and a 500G; the 500 certainly won't be double the price of a 250, and I
wouldn't buy less than a 500 these days. A 1T might be fine too. I don't
know what Best Buy are like for prices compared to online; it's good to
get something in your hand, I know (I just bought a 1T drive for 45
pounds, and could have got it a _bit_ cheaper online). If you _do_ go
for an online one, make sure it is described as new. (And probably look
for one that's in the US, so it arrives in a few days not three weeks!)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Anything you add for security will slow the computer but it shouldn't be
significant or prolonged. Security software is to protect the computer, not
the primary use of the computer.
- VanguardLH in alt.windows7.general, 2018-1-28

HB wrote:
"Mike Easter" wrote in message
...
HB wrote:
https://postimg.org/gallery/38afbakly/

There are no Tosh' instructions when turning the Tosh on holding down the
0
key. Just a loud irritating sound. Nothing else.
Uh oh.

Rats! That "Uh oh" sounds bad.

This message shows the link to the Tosh instructions
http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?ID=152165126200

Thanks, but that doesn't work. All I got was a black screen with a dash
in
the upper right and loud irritating sound.

That sounds much worse for the hdd than just missing the appearance of the
sda2 icon on the desktop.

I'm leaning, with my limited knowledge of computers, to believe the HD is
toast.

Linux also says, when sda1 was clicked on (bottom left above bar) that File
doesn't exist pertaining to "system volume information." Sounds ominous,
like the end of the line for his HD.

/dev/sda1 is type 0x27. It should not mount if you click on it.

/dev/sda2 (which isn't showing up) is of type 0x07
and it *would* mount... but the icon isn't there.

So no, nothing is going to show you files the "easy way"
at the moment.

If you want to "see files", you'll need to use TestDisk
and use the file viewing function.

This is a bit over-the-top for a first session.

http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online...k-and-PhotoRec

I only dug up an article like that, to show it does have
a file viewing capability. When FatDog can't open it, there's
still a way. You can probably look inside a 0x27 this way.

http://www.linux-magazine.com/var/li...mainstory1.jpg

The hard part, is figuring out what sequence of commands,
gets you to that point. There's no "easy show-me-files"
button to click. That's the problem.

Paul

In message , HB writes:

"Patrick" wrote in message
news
On 22/03/2018 06:32, HB wrote:
Is this all I need? The one for $4.04?
Yes

I plug the Toshiba's HD into it and
plug it into THIS healthy desktop and see what's on the HD? See of she
spins
up?

A new drive letter should appear.
If a new drive letter doesn't show (ie it's corrupted or what), then you
would look look in 'Disc Management' to see if the Toshiba HDD shows
there.

Thanks. I ordered one even cheaper with 2 USB plugs to fire it up. Now I
wait until it gets here from China. It looks like it can take up to 3 weeks.

(I think the $4.04 one with one plug was from China too.)
Pity - if you'd searched (ebay, Amazon, whatever), using the search
phrase "SATA to USB" or "USB to SATA", you could probably have found one
- probably in the USA - with only a few days' delivery time. (You could
still do this of course, but you'll then have two of them which you
don't need.) It might cost $4 or $5 rather than less than $3 as the one
you've gone for did.

I didn't do such a search for you as using ebay.com (the US site) rather
than ebay.co.uk doesn't work too well for me from he ebay knows I'm
here, so gives delivery times - and shipping costs - to me. But you can.
Or Amazon.com, or probably others.
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Our thorny national debate about Brexit could turn out to be irrelevant.
Sooner or later the EU as we know it may no longer be there for us to leave.
- Katya Adler, BBC Europe editor (RT, 2017/2/4-10)

In message , Mike Easter
writes:
Mike Easter wrote:
HB wrote:

https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg
fdisk about /dev/sda
250G disk

So it's a 250 gigabyte (about 233 gibibyte) drive. (Probably not worth
getting a 250 today - a 500 will be far better value, and a 1T slightly
better again. Though a 1T might be a lot more than you need.)

3 parts:
1.46Gi* 0x27 (unknown)

That 0x27 is a hidden Windows RE recovery environment.

So that was/is the Toshiba recovery partition. Quite big - I'm used to
them being 100M (0.1G) or 450M - but still not big enough to actually
_hold_ anything like a full copy of Windows, so any recovery it _could_
do (if it worked, which it sounded like it doesn't) would rely on moving
files on C: around.

222.4Gi* 0x07 HPFS/NTFS

That would have been the C: partition ...

8.9Gi 0x07 HPFS/NTFS

.... and that probably D:.


--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Our thorny national debate about Brexit could turn out to be irrelevant.
Sooner or later the EU as we know it may no longer be there for us to leave.
- Katya Adler, BBC Europe editor (RT, 2017/2/4-10)

In message , HB writes:
[]
Here are new ones from today:

https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/
https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/03ec0845/
https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg

In 4777, I can see that you typed

fdisk

whereas we (Paul I think) told you to type

fdisk /dev/sda
then
p
then
q

.. As a result of you just typing fdisk on its own, Linux told you (in
exhaustive detail, as it often does) what you _could_ have typed. (In
fact, if I read it right, you could have typed

fdisk -l /dev/sda

which would have avoided the necessity of the p and q afterwards.)

You then typed

disktype /dev/sda

, which told us the three partition types and sizes, presumably read
from the partition table:

partition 1 1.465 GiB type 0x27 NTFS
partition 2 222.4 GiB type 0x07 NTFS
partition 3 8.996 GiB type 0x07 NTFS
, and also had a go at sniffing them, experiencing a fail when it tried
partition 2.

(You then had another go at fdisk, using I presume [I can't make it out]
what the response to the first fdisk told you to, but it didn't like
what you typed for some reason.)

https://s26.postimg.org/hx3j203o9/IM004778.jpg

On that screen, I can see that you finally typed the

smartctl -a /dev/sda

command we'd been trying to get you to for a day or two (-:. And didn't
it produce a lot of output!

The first bit just gives us make, model, serial number etc. - 250G, 5400
rpm, SATA 3. (I actually prefer 5400 RPM drives - I feel they run cooler
than 7200 RPM ones and might last longer, but I have no evidence to
prove this. You can get 5400 1T ones - I just did.)

The next bit gives the result of the SMART tests/checks. It starts with
overall test result: PASSED, which is rather optimistic! It goes on to
say a self-test has either passed or never been run: since it also says
last time it ran it took 0 seconds, it looks like it was never run.


https://s26.postimg.org/clomhapbd/IM004779.jpg

The bottom half of 4779 shows what Paul wanted to see: compare it to the
screenshot he posted, and you'll see a lot of differences! There's a
column full of either "old_age" or "pre-fail", and the one in particular
Paul was interested in, Reallocated_Sector_Ct, certainly isn't the zero
he was hoping for.


https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj58s9/IM004780.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/v193epql5/IM004781.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj5gi1/IM004782.jpg

Those seem to show several similar blocks of information about errors.
At the bottom of 4782, there is a record of four "Short" self-tests
having "Completed without error".

https://s26.postimg.org/5igr1peqx/IM004783.jpg

I don't get much of that one, but it does include another four OK
self-tests.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Our thorny national debate about Brexit could turn out to be irrelevant.
Sooner or later the EU as we know it may no longer be there for us to leave.
- Katya Adler, BBC Europe editor (RT, 2017/2/4-10)

Paul wrote:
If you want to "see files", you'll need to use TestDisk
and use the file viewing function.

Fatdog has a testdisk available. It might be interesting to see what
parts it sees.

slapt-get -i testdisk

Then run it, let it keep its log, it will see /dev/sda and offer to
proceed. I don't know much about what happens after that.

This is a pretty good testdisk portal
https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
I like this one https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step
This recovery example guides you through TestDisk step by step to
recover a missing partition and repair a corrupted one. After reading
this tutorial, you should be ready to recover your own data.

Naturally these steps start making changes in the hdd, so one would hope
they work out OK.

The same site recommends using ddrescue before trying to use dd.
https://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/Damaged_Hard_Disk

slapte-get -i ddrescue

I wish the Tosh recovery wizard could perform without failing.
Somewhere someone advised that prior to initiating the Tosh zero key
instructions that after turning off the computer, that one do the hard
reset by remove the AC power, remove the battery, hold down the power
key for 10 seconds, and then replace the battery and AC and do the
powerup with 0 zero key.

I also found another Tosh description of accessing the wizard with F12,
but that was for models with gray letters on the lower part of the F
keys, but i see HB's has white letters on the upper part which is
supposed to be with the zero key.

--
Mike Easter

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 15:41:24 -0400, "HB" wrote:


"Monty" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 22 Mar 2018 02:22:51 -0400, "HB" wrote:
I can't access that. It has a lock icon and says it's not accessible.

Here is the info in Reflect.log on my PC. I opened it in Notepad. It
was created when I downloaded the latest version of Macrium Reflect
Free yesterday.

The Macrium downloader gets an error and it doesn't download. Do you have
an URL for a working downloader for Macrium?


The following is a 2-stage download. First, get the downloader from
Macrium. This file is called "ReflectDLHF.exe" and is 3,758,120 bytes.

https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree

A little way down the page is the option to

Download Macrium Reflect 7 Free Edition. Click "Home Use".

You will be offered "ReflectDLHF.exe", which is a Binary File.
Click "Save File". You can accept to save it in the "Downloads"
folder.

Navigate to "C:\Users\your name\Downloads" folder and double-click
"ReflectDLHF.exe".

You brings up the "Macrium Reflect Download Agent" panel.
Accept the defaults:

Choose Edition --- Free
Save to folder === C:\Users ..... Macrium
Run installer directly after downloading

Within seconds you should be able to run the program. You will need a
blank CD.

Now click on "Other Tasks" in the menu bar and select
"Create Rescue Media".

The "Rescue Media Wizard" panel will appear. Select "Next".

The "Rescue Media Drivers" panel will appear. Select "Next".

The "Burn Rescue Media" panel will appear. Insert CD and Select
"Finish".

If you need any further help please come back to this thread.


Monty,

In message , Paul
writes:
[]
The SMART says 453 reallocated, maybe at 60% life or so.

Offline_Uncorrectable of 53.

So yeah, it's not a happy drive.
[]
While the words "Fail" are not printed on any screen,
that disk isn't very healthy.

It hasn't died yet, but it has an error in a
key location that looks like trouble.

Basically, you're going to need to replace that drive. None of us here
would try to continue using that drive even if we could bring it back to
life (get it working in the laptop).


I can't tell the total quantity of errors, whether
the C: partition is obliterated, or there's only
an error in the file system header.

Now that I've seen that, I might try ddrescue, but
with a sinking feeling it's not going to help. I don't
know whether CHKDSK can repair something like that.

You would use ddrescue to clone that 250GB drive, to
another drive of similar size or larger. Regular cloning
utilities are going to barf when they hit that read error.

So you _could_ try to use Macrium to clone it to the new drive (or image
it to your Seagate, which you could do while you're waiting for the new
drive; you'd then rebuild from the image to the new drive when you get
it), but it is _likely_ that Macrium would stop with an error message at
some point during the process, when it failed to read some part of the
failing drive. I would still try it though!

Once that had failed a couple of times, you could use ddrescue to do the
cloning; unlike Macrium, ddrescue won't fall over when it encounters
errors, but will repeatedly retry. (I don't know how many times,
though.) However, it's more tedious to use than Macrium. If I understand
Mike Easter's post correctly, ddrescue _is_ _on_ the fatdog CD, but
isn't _installed_ when you boot fatdog, you have to extract it.

I don't know if ddrescue can make an image, or only a clone; if it can
only make a clone, you couldn't use it until you have the new drive to
clone to (and the "cable" to connect either the new or old drive). (An
image could be put on the Seagate, and then unpacked to the new drive
when you get it.)

The advantage of either imaging or cloning would be that you'd get a new
drive which would (a) boot straight into Windows (b) have all your other
files on it, such as your daughter's game. The _dis_advantage would be
either that the cloning process wouldn't work at all, or that some of
the files in the clone/image might still be corrupted, and it still
wouldn't boot.

Some commercial utilities, have a copy of ddrescue built-in
and can copy sector by sector.

Scavenging personal files off the machine might make
sense, if someone cared, but I don't know if
scavenging the OS makes sense. It's a cost/value
tradeoff.

You can certain buy a replacement drive, install Windows 7
on it using the COA sticker xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx
license key. And carry on. It's even possible to put Windows 7
on a USB key, and install it from there. That won't work if the
computer is year 2005 or older, since the older computers
like that won't boot from USB.

The advantage of that is that the rebuilt system WILL work, no argument,
and you wouldn't have to try to use the old drive at all. The
disadvantages are that you'd be at factory new condition - you'd have
lost all your user files, and programmes (such as your daughter's game)
which you'd have to reinstall, and: you'd have to obtain the Windows 7
to put on a DVD or USB - though we _should_ be able to help you get
that.

Paul
John
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

You cannot simply assume someone is honest just because they are not an MP.

Mike Easter wrote:
SeaMonkey will also open the root directory to look for the file and you
will change to spot to find it.

The webpage at postimg.org tells the browser to open Desktop; so if you
are saving from mtpaint, you can save in the Desktop directory instead
of Spot mentioned earlier.

If you don't like that 10 second delay for the mtpaint tool, you can run
it from the commandline and choose such as a 5 second delay like this:

sleep 5; mtpaint -s &

I can't see a way to change the 10 sec. delay in the graphical
interface. I realize that those who are unfamiliar with working with
linux are averse to commandlines, but the terminal is very useful and in
a great many occasions is much more efficient than talking about how to
try to do something graphically.

Personally I prefer the xscreenshot tool if using fatdog, but I
understand that if one is averse to the commandline that it is possible
to do pure point and click using the mtpaint screenshot tool from the
menu followed by the graphical mtpaint and file managers.

--
Mike Easter

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
In message , HB writes:

disktype /dev/sda


I typed this in the CP (command prompt) and
. It sees there are 2 partitions. Data read failed at position (list of
numbers) Input/output
error. Error petition 3.
As far as I know there is no partition 3.

Unfortunately, I don't _think_ we can assume that partition 3 is D:;
different things see the partitions in a different order. Would you mind
posting us a screenshot of where "it mentions a partition 1 and a
partition 2 NTFS system followed by bytes and numbers" (or copying it
out for us)? I know it's tedious, but that information would be very
useful.

https://s26.postimg.org/pk8ikr01l/IM004784.jpg


(Oh, if you do do it with the camera, turn off [or put your finger over
if you can't turn off] the flash; it reflects off the screen in the shot
you have posted, and since the screen is backlit anyway it isn't needed
- will probably give a better picture anyway.)

https://s26.postimg.org/998eomigp/IM004786.jpg


A shot of the results of the
smartctl -a /dev/sda
result might also be useful - I know you're getting fed up of that one,
but _we_ have so far only seen the results of your first two attempts,
one of which had the capital S and the other the extra "return".

Didn't I already post that twice? This is all I get with that command. Look
at the command at the upper top left and you will see what I typed in.

smartctl -a /dev/sda produced these on one long screen.

https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/
https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/03ec0845/
https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/hx3j203o9/IM004778.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/clomhapbd/IM004779.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj58s9/IM004780.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/v193epql5/IM004781.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj5gi1/IM004782.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5igr1peqx/IM004783.jpg

In noticed this: Error 930 occured at disk power-on lifetime:1243 hours (51
days + 19 hours) When the command that caused the error occured, the device
was active or idle.


--
Morality is doing what's right
without the threat of divine retribution
nor the possiblity of divine reward.

- Arthur Paliden -

"Paul" wrote in message
news
HB wrote:

Your Fatdog64 picture shows the drive having "sda1", which is
too few partitions for my liking, and implies a partition is
sick or has gone missing. My OEM laptop had three partitions
at least, before I messed with it.

You may find these helpful.

smartctl -a /dev/sda produced these on one long screen.

https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/
https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/03ec0845/
https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/hx3j203o9/IM004778.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/clomhapbd/IM004779.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj58s9/IM004780.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/v193epql5/IM004781.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj5gi1/IM004782.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5igr1peqx/IM004783.jpg

Taken later:

https://s26.postimg.org/pk8ikr01l/IM004784.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/998eomigp/IM004786.jpg

"Mike Easter" wrote in message
...
Oops. typo

I meant you input smartctl not 'smartctrl'

That was not an acceptable command for smartctl either (return string
bafflement) and smartctl told you so.

Here you go! :^)

smartctl -a /dev/sda produced these on one long screen.

https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/
https://postimg.org/gallery/25tkiz5ty/03ec0845/
https://s26.postimg.org/84ihdfh8p/IM004777.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/hx3j203o9/IM004778.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/clomhapbd/IM004779.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj58s9/IM004780.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/v193epql5/IM004781.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/4g6kj5gi1/IM004782.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/5igr1peqx/IM004783.jpg

Taken later:

https://s26.postimg.org/pk8ikr01l/IM004784.jpg
https://s26.postimg.org/998eomigp/IM004786.jpg

Can you learn anything from these pics?
--
Morality is doing what's right
without the threat of divine retribution
nor the possiblity of divine reward.

- Arthur Paliden -