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Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives?
Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in
the tribal archives (given that everything else we post shows up there)? It seems that some people are unaware that there is no longer any need for Windows Classic Shell to create cascade menus on Windows 10 that look and act just like the cascade menu did on Windows XP. http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_my_win10_cascade_menu.jpg When I want to the http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 tribal archives, I didn't find the multiple posts I *know* I made, where the original post had the following headers: From: Arlen Holder Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows.8 Subject: Tutorial for setting up a well-organized consistent efficient Windows menu system Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:52:36 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: Injection-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:52:36 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="280c6f9239ac0f306a8fd5043aa4dba15cc65d6b"; logging-data="17885"; " For some reason, that tutorial shows up in my newsreader but not on the tribal archives at http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 Do you see that tutorial in your newsreader? Maybe something was wrong when I sent it? (as I don't understand why it's not in the tribal archives) I might resend it ... but can others look first? (Addendum: I just ran a search on http://al.howardknight.net/ for that message id and it shows up, so I'm not sure why it's not archived in the tribal archives...) http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3Cpfo1kd%24het%241 %40news.mixmin.net%3E Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives (when everything else we post does show up there)? |
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Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives?
"Arlen Holder" wrote
| When I want to the http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 tribal | archives, I didn't find the multiple posts I *know* I made, where the | original post had the following headers: | From: Arlen Holder | Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows.8 | Subject: Tutorial for setting up a well-organized consistent efficient Windows menu system I see your long series of posts. If you want to put them in a tribal archive you'll probably have to pay much wampum. |
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Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives?
Arlen Holder wrote:
Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives (given that everything else we post shows up there)? No, sorry. Unless someone else comes up with a clue, I think your only option is to contact the webmaster of the site. (There's a 'Contact us' button at the bottom of their FAQ page (http://www.pcbanter.net/faq.php?). More below. It seems that some people are unaware that there is no longer any need for Windows Classic Shell to create cascade menus on Windows 10 that look and act just like the cascade menu did on Windows XP. http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_my_win10_cascade_menu.jpg When I want to the http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 tribal archives, I didn't find the multiple posts I *know* I made, where the original post had the following headers: From: Arlen Holder Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.os.windows.8 Subject: Tutorial for setting up a well-organized consistent efficient Windows menu system Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:52:36 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Mixmin Message-ID: Injection-Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2018 08:52:36 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="280c6f9239ac0f306a8fd5043aa4dba15cc65d6b"; logging-data="17885"; " For some reason, that tutorial shows up in my newsreader but not on the tribal archives at http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 Do you see that tutorial in your newsreader? Yes, I see it in my newsreader, along with your 3 followups (last one of June 16). So they are on at least one of the main News servers (News.Individual.[NET|DE]). I could not read the stupid Captchas, so I could not search the pcbanter site, so I browsed on date, but I could not find your post in any of the three groups, alt.comp.os.windows-10 and alt.comp.os.windows.8 (OP) and microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (your 3 followups). Maybe something was wrong when I sent it? sitting firmly on hands :-) (as I don't understand why it's not in the tribal archives) I might resend it ... but can others look first? (Addendum: I just ran a search on http://al.howardknight.net/ for that message id and it shows up, so I'm not sure why it's not archived in the tribal archives...) http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3Cpfo1kd%24het%241 %40news.mixmin.net%3E Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives (when everything else we post does show up there)? |
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Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives?
On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 10:06:26 -0400, Mayayana wrote:
I see your long series of posts. If you want to put them in a tribal archive you'll probably have to pay much wampum. Every one of my threads *adds technical value* to the tribal archives. Some of them, like the menu tutorial, I spent *years* perfecting! I don't ask a question unless it's difficult to answer, e.g., a. Turning off Windows update graciously, b. Turning off Cortana without bricking the system c. Dual boot with Ubuntu when there happens to be RAID dung, etc. The thread I'm looking for is a complete tutorial on setting up what some people here don't seem to know about - which is the native Windows 10 Cascade Menu (which is almost exactly as the WinXP Cascade Menu). I see from Franks' helpful response that it exists. I suspect that the fact "windows 8" was originally included might have caused the PC Banter admit to skip archiving it (dunno). The reason it's needed is that people *asked* how to set up the Win10 Cascade Menu like the WinXP Cascade Menu, which takes a few tricks, but once you set them up, they both work almost exactly alike. You are an expert in Windows so you probably already knew that Windows 10 has absolutely no need for the Classic Shell (if all you want are Cascaded Menus); but others aren't as knowledgeable as you are. (In addition to the highly technical threads I author, there was a recent spate of strategically purposeful troll-shaming threads which were specifically designed to point out the specific trolls ... a tactic which appears to have worked perfectly as the last extremely technical thread on the dual-boot bugs had not a single troll attend!) Hence, everyone benefited by shutting up the trolls. |
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Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives?
On 22 Jun 2018 14:32:32 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Yes, I see it in my newsreader, along with your 3 followups (last one of June 16). So they are on at least one of the main News servers (News.Individual.[NET|DE]). Thanks. The tutorial for setting up Windows 10 native Cascade Menus shows up in my newsfeed also, but not on the tribal archives that you kindly referred us all to long ago... http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 It's sad to waste it because I spent *years* perfecting Windows menus! I could not read the stupid Captchas, so I could not search the pcbanter site, so I browsed on date, but I could not find your post in any of the three groups, alt.comp.os.windows-10 and alt.comp.os.windows.8 (OP) and microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (your 3 followups). I agree with you, as I did deal with that idiotic captcha (which, I agree, is almost impossible to get right ... I just keep trying ... they really shouldn't make captcha so impossible that a normal human can't get more than one in three correct ... but ... they do what they do). Maybe something was wrong when I sent it? sitting firmly on hands :-) Thanks. I appreciate the purposefully helpful response. The net is that of all the recent threads, that's the *only* one that didn't get archived on the Windows 10 tribal archive site. Dunno why, but the reason it mattered is that some people said they were unaware that Windows 10 has native Cascade Menus just like Windows XP has. http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_my_win10_cascade_menu.jpg They asked how I did that, where it's crazy to repeat what I already spent hours writing up exactly for the purpose of teaching others how to do it themselves. I write these tutorials to help people, and to flesh them out. It's too bad I can't give them an easy URL to that particular one. Maybe I'll post it again, but if I do, I'll likely re-write it as I've never once written a detailed tutorial that I didn't find places that I could improve upon by adding technical details. |
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Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives?
On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 13:55:18 -0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:
Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives (given that everything else we post shows up there)? OK. I figured out the likely problem with the tribal archives. Use this URL, from the WinXP archives, which works: http://tinyurl.com/microsoft-public-windowsxp-gen (30-character limit) https://groups.google.com/d/msg/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/eWU-jOkFRtU/N7S0Mw7yBgAJ Don't use any other URL, all of which fail because the archival engines don't like either the length of the detailed tutorial or the huge number of well-annotated screenshots in the unique tutorial. This is truncated: http://al.howardknight.net Usenet archives http://al.howardknight.net/msgid.cgi?STYPE=msgid&A=0&MSGI=%3Cpgjhpj%24a5n%241 %40news.mixmin.net%3E This just omits the detailed tutorial due to length or screenshot number. http://tinyurl.com/alt-comp-os-windows-10 archives http://www.pcbanter.net/showthread.php?t=1104476 Bear in mind that the tricks shown in the tutorial are found nowhere else on Usenet (AFAIK); otherwise, people wouldn't be using Classic Shell to get native Windows 10 to have the exact same Cascade Menus they had on Windows XP. Note that you can literally *copy* your WinXP menus over to Windows 10 and the WinXP Cascade Menu will work perfectly on Win10 - if you follow the tricks in the tutorial. |
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Any idea why the Windows 10 Native Cascade Menu tutorial didn't show up in the tribal archives?
On 23 Jun 2018 06:01:14 GMT, Arlen Holder wrote:
Note that you can literally *copy* your WinXP menus over to Windows 10 and the WinXP Cascade Menu will work perfectly on Win10 - if you follow the tricks in the tutorial. Here is a summary of the right-click population of all four menus. 1. We save the application installer in a task-based hierarchy: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu01529.jpg 2. This particular example happens to be the "Shotcut" video editor: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu02679.jpg 3. The default location happens to be software editor vid http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu03179.jpg 4. Notice that the app hiearchy mirrors that same organization: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu04368.jpg 5. Also notice the heterodox start menu populates the orthodox menu: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu05446.jpg 6. From any shortcut, you just right click to populate the task bar: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu06241.jpg 7. You can put the shortcuts anywhere you find them useful: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu07638.jpg 8. Specifically, you can add that shortcut to any menu you like: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu08523.jpg 9. For example, you can add the shortcut to the orthodox Start Menu: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu09694.jpg 10. Or right click to add it to the task bar: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu10134.jpg 11. Or right click to add it to the WinXP-style Cascade Menu: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu11977.jpg 12. Or right click to add it to the heterodox Start Menu: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu12851.jpg 13. It's a simple matter to move the Cascade Menu items around: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu13317.jpg 14. You drag and drop the Win10 Cascade Menu exactly as you did on WinXP: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu1482.jpg 15. Native, out of the box, WinXP & Win10 Cascade Menus are exactly the same! http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu15997.jpg 16. You drag and drop the tiled orthodox start menu also (as you see fit): http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu16160.jpg 17. I use the same hierarchy on all my machines over the decades: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu1719.jpg 18. And, of course, there's always the shortcut task bar method: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu18310.jpg 19. And if you set it up, you can use the command line also: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu19778.jpg 20. But you need to know how to use the all-important "App Paths" key: http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_menu2028.jpg |
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