McAfee or AVG

Odd, I have not viewed many postings about that particular problem
subject!!! Like the WGA, anything Microsoft provides brings out a lot of
problem posters who complain endlessly about problems that most don't
experience or find. Must be a BS in that field available from somewhere!
Please elucidate on anything you consider serious.

Gene K
"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
| Oh, my. You should read about the problems people are having with the
BETA
| defender.
|
|
| "Gene K" wrote in message
| ...
| So do I. Stay with what you have used in the past and are familiar with
| the
| features. In addition, I would add the free Windows Defender (Beta 2)
| (since
| it is an active spyware blocker and will also enable you to control
| startup
| programs among other things):
| http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| .
| Gene K
| "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
| ...
| | Blair wrote:
| |
| | I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
| | McAfee anti virus.
| | I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
| | rears and have always been satisfied
| | Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good
| | or not McAfee is?
| |
| |
| | I think you're better off uninstalling McAfee and using AVG.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| | Please reply to the newsgroup
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

I merely found the Beta program seriously lacking, not reporting to me, nor could I find out what it was doing/finding, etc. And it just wasn't stable compared to what I have been using, so I removed it.

All of my problems are now resolved, save for one with my ZoomText not reading to me. Grrrr

That is not an XP Pro problem, I'm sure. But, HP is very concerned about my computer being so new and having had all of the problems I've had--I've owned computers since 1978, and never had such wobbly events.
"Gene K" wrote in message ...
Odd, I have not viewed many postings about that particular problem
subject!!! Like the WGA, anything Microsoft provides brings out a lot of
problem posters who complain endlessly about problems that most don't
experience or find. Must be a BS in that field available from somewhere!
Please elucidate on anything you consider serious.

Gene K
"Tom Willett" wrote in message
...
| Oh, my. You should read about the problems people are having with the
BETA
| defender.
|
|
| "Gene K" wrote in message
| ...
| So do I. Stay with what you have used in the past and are familiar with
| the
| features. In addition, I would add the free Windows Defender (Beta 2)
| (since
| it is an active spyware blocker and will also enable you to control
| startup
| programs among other things):
| http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
| .
| Gene K
| "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
| ...
| | Blair wrote:
| |
| | I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
| | McAfee anti virus.
| | I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
| | rears and have always been satisfied
| | Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good
| | or not McAfee is?
| |
| |
| | I think you're better off uninstalling McAfee and using AVG.
| |
| |
| | --
| | Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| | Please reply to the newsgroup
| |
| |
|
|
|
|

"Blair" wrote in message
...
I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with McAfee
anti virus.
I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for rears
and have always been satisfied
Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good or not
McAfee is?
Blair


Hello Blair
If you are not a beta tester and you do not have an additional computer to
test on, then stay away from beta products - or expect to have your one and
only computer not working at times.
There are of other antispy progs to choose from, like

Paid for-
Spyware Detector
Spy Sweeper
Spyware Doctor

Free-
Ad-Aware
Spybot search and destroy
Windows Defender

Although the free ones are not as good at detecting/removing spyware and
they do not have the largest of Detection Databases compared to the paid
for, at least two will help to cover each others backs.
MS do not disclose the size of their database - probably explains why its
detection rate is not much better than 68% - but a bit better than Ad-Aware
and Spybot.
Re Defender, it has been mentioned that on first launch, it can be a bit
daunting and confusing if you get bombarded with a number of alerts and
warnings, with no explanation as to what to do next - scan or sort the
warnings?
It is said that prevention is better than cure, and I would say that Spyware
Blaster is very good at doing that.

The choice is yours ;-)
Rgds
Antioch

I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
McAfee anti virus.
I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
rears and have always been satisfied
Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good or
not McAfee is?

Same scenario for me.

IMO, McAfee is buggy, intrusive, performance-degrading, and difficult to
uninstall. (Even after uninstalling, I had to use msconfig to stop vestiges
from launching at start-up.)

I ended up using your combination (AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware) and
am generally satisfied.

"Gene K" wrote in message
...
Odd, I have not viewed many postings about that particular problem
subject!!! Like the WGA, anything Microsoft provides brings out a lot of
problem posters who complain endlessly about problems that most don't
experience or find. Must be a BS in that field available from somewhere!
Please elucidate on anything you consider serious.


Windows Defender in it's current version is much improved, but some people
are still having problems with updating the definitions (and engine).

Also, if you're on a network that updates machines through SUS that won't
work. You would have to switch to WSUS.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

"Pappion" wrote in message
...
Nix on MS's Beta Spyware--it missed tons on my new computer. I went back to
AdAware and Spyware Doctor, and run Trendmicro each week in addition. Thank
goodness I got rid of NSW so I can now program my System Tolls to do regular
scans for me. Good ole NSW had that locked up so we had to use "One Button
Check-Up" which snagged up all my Dragon profile files (after 26 hours of
dictating them for "training" Dragon). Ahhh free at last!


I'll bet most of what it missed was cookies, right? It doesn't check
cookies because they are just text files and can't hurt the machine.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety (Benjamin Franklin)."
"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message ...
"Gene K" wrote in message
...
Odd, I have not viewed many postings about that particular problem
subject!!! Like the WGA, anything Microsoft provides brings out a lot of
problem posters who complain endlessly about problems that most don't
experience or find. Must be a BS in that field available from somewhere!
Please elucidate on anything you consider serious.


Windows Defender in it's current version is much improved, but some people
are still having problems with updating the definitions (and engine).

Also, if you're on a network that updates machines through SUS that won't
work. You would have to switch to WSUS.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

re It doesn't check cookies because they are just text files and can't hurt the machine.
But, I have a right to protect my privacy as much as possible, and the misnomer, "cookies" are a serious violation. Some of them are akin to being followed every time I leave my home. :-((

"Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE" wrote in message ...
"Pappion" wrote in message
...
Nix on MS's Beta Spyware--it missed tons on my new computer. I went back to
AdAware and Spyware Doctor, and run Trendmicro each week in addition. Thank
goodness I got rid of NSW so I can now program my System Tolls to do regular
scans for me. Good ole NSW had that locked up so we had to use "One Button
Check-Up" which snagged up all my Dragon profile files (after 26 hours of
dictating them for "training" Dragon). Ahhh free at last!


I'll bet most of what it missed was cookies, right? It doesn't check
cookies because they are just text files and can't hurt the machine.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

"Pappion" wrote in message
...
re It doesn't check cookies because they are just text files and can't hurt
the machine.
But, I have a right to protect my privacy as much as possible, and the
misnomer, "cookies" are a serious violation. Some of them are akin to being
followed every time I leave my home. :-((

I'll bet most of what it missed was cookies, right? It doesn't check
cookies because they are just text files and can't hurt the machine.


And you don't need an anti-spyware program to keep from getting them. IE
does that just fine.

--
Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Reply in newsgroup
"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve
neither liberty or security"

"Pappion" wrote:

re It doesn't check cookies because they are just text files and can't hurt the machine.
But, I have a right to protect my privacy as much as possible, and the misnomer, "cookies" are a serious violation. Some of them are akin to being followed every time I leave my home. :-((


It takes not more than 30 seconds to "toss your cookies" using Control
Panel - Internet Options.

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

"Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
has never been in bed with a mosquito."

From my experience McAfee and Norton have done nothing but hinder performance
and constatly require attention.
Since switching to AVG Free everything is rosy.
It's not a hindrance and goes about it's businees quietly.

JMHO

"MyVeryOwnSelf" wrote:

I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
McAfee anti virus.
I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
rears and have always been satisfied
Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good or
not McAfee is?

Same scenario for me.

IMO, McAfee is buggy, intrusive, performance-degrading, and difficult to
uninstall. (Even after uninstalling, I had to use msconfig to stop vestiges
from launching at start-up.)

I ended up using your combination (AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware) and
am generally satisfied.

"MyVeryOwnSelf" wrote in message
...
I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
McAfee anti virus.
I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
rears and have always been satisfied
Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good or
not McAfee is?

Same scenario for me.

IMO, McAfee is buggy, intrusive, performance-degrading, and difficult to
uninstall. (Even after uninstalling, I had to use msconfig to stop
vestiges
from launching at start-up.)

I ended up using your combination (AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware)
and
am generally satisfied.

I am very grateful for all the replies to my original question which has
helped me to decide to Uninstall McAfee which I have now done and load
AVG,Zone Alarm and Spybot but when I downloaded the "free" version of
AdAlarm I found in using it I was required to register and registration
meant I had to pay $39 for the privilege.
I even downloaded my copy I had made previously but I was again required to
pay.
Is there no "free" AdAware now?
If there is no free AdAware is there a free alternative?
Blair

Blair wrote:

I am very grateful for all the replies to my original question which
has helped me to decide to Uninstall McAfee which I have now done and
load AVG,Zone Alarm and Spybot but when I downloaded the "free"
version of AdAlarm I found in using it I was required to register and
registration meant I had to pay $39 for the privilege.
I even downloaded my copy I had made previously but I was again
required to pay.
Is there no "free" AdAware now?
If there is no free AdAware is there a free alternative?


Is "Adalarm" a typo for "Adaware"?

Yes there is a free version. You must have clicked on something in error.
Try it again.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

AdAware is free for home use. AdAlarm is a different product.

"Blair" wrote in message
...

"MyVeryOwnSelf" wrote in message
...
I have just taken delivery of a new Dell desktop which came with
McAfee anti virus.
I have used a combination of AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and AdAware for
rears and have always been satisfied
Before I uninstall McAfee what is the opinion of others on how good
or
not McAfee is?

Same scenario for me.

IMO, McAfee is buggy, intrusive, performance-degrading, and difficult
to
uninstall. (Even after uninstalling, I had to use msconfig to stop
vestiges
from launching at start-up.)

I ended up using your combination (AVG, Zone Alarm, Spybot and
AdAware) and
am generally satisfied.

I am very grateful for all the replies to my original question which
has helped me to decide to Uninstall McAfee which I have now done and
load AVG,Zone Alarm and Spybot but when I downloaded the "free"
version of AdAlarm I found in using it I was required to register and
registration meant I had to pay $39 for the privilege.
I even downloaded my copy I had made previously but I was again
required to pay.
Is there no "free" AdAware now?
If there is no free AdAware is there a free alternative?
Blair

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
Blair wrote:

I am very grateful for all the replies to my original question which
has helped me to decide to Uninstall McAfee which I have now done and
load AVG,Zone Alarm and Spybot but when I downloaded the "free"
version of AdAlarm I found in using it I was required to register and
registration meant I had to pay $39 for the privilege.
I even downloaded my copy I had made previously but I was again
required to pay.
Is there no "free" AdAware now?
If there is no free AdAware is there a free alternative?


Is "Adalarm" a typo for "Adaware"?

Yes there is a free version. You must have clicked on something in error.
Try it again.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup
You are right I opened the wrong package. I opened NoAdware instead of
AdAware!
Blair