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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
I tried to install the utility on a just-received handmedown Dell Inspiron D630 laptop today running Windows 7 Enterprise: Windows10Upgrade24074.exe 5,607KB CPU: OK Memory: OK Disk space: OK ! Operating System: Contact your system administrator to upgrade Windows Server or Enterprise editions. ! Disk controller: The current active partition is compressed Googling for how to figure out the windows version: Start Run winver Windows7 Enterprise Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1) Any suggestions? --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
Algeria Horan wrote:
Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10 I tried to install the utility on a just-received handmedown Dell Inspiron D630 laptop today running Windows 7 Enterprise: Windows10Upgrade24074.exe 5,607KB CPU: OK Memory: OK Disk space: OK ! Operating System: Contact your system administrator to upgrade Windows Server or Enterprise editions. ! Disk controller: The current active partition is compressed Googling for how to figure out the windows version: Start Run winver Windows7 Enterprise Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1) Any suggestions? The free upgrade is intended for "Consumers". Enterprise VLK operating systems are not entitled to a free upgrade to Windows 10. Paul |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:25:50 -0230, Algeria Horan wrote:
Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10 I tried to install the utility on a just-received handmedown Dell Inspiron D630 laptop today running Windows 7 Enterprise: Windows10Upgrade24074.exe 5,607KB CPU: OK Memory: OK Disk space: OK ! Operating System: Contact your system administrator to upgrade Windows Server or Enterprise editions. ! Disk controller: The current active partition is compressed Googling for how to figure out the windows version: Start Run winver Windows7 Enterprise Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1) Any suggestions? --- L'absence de virus dans ce courrier électronique a été vérifiée par le logiciel antivirus Avast. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Stay with windows 7. I don't see any compelling advantage with 10 and after the last annoying problem with attribute settings I restored my windows 7 from an image. If you do get to update (for which Paul says you are not eligible), do create and image of the existing system first. I use macrium reflect free version. |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:17:23 -0400, Paul wrote:
The free upgrade is intended for "Consumers". Enterprise VLK operating systems are not entitled to a free upgrade to Windows 10. Can I downgrade to Windows 7 Home? |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:17:23 -0400, Paul wrote:
The free upgrade is intended for "Consumers". Enterprise VLK operating systems are not entitled to a free upgrade to Windows 10. Thank you. I thought I hit the bonanza when someone gave the Dell to me for free, but it turns out it was her corporate machine in 2007, and it apparently had a recall where Nvidia gave the company the money back but let everyone keep the computer. Problem is that every day or three, the monitor fritzes out and goes all scrambled eggs. The class action suit is long gone (settled in 2010 it seems), so, there's no recourse that I know of for that. Initially I was trying to update the OS because I thought it might be software, but even after updating the BIOS to A19 (2013), it still has the problem. Apparently the "ball grid array" under the GPU develops "cracks". I saw the youtube videos on how to "reflow" them, but they're beyond my scope. Thanks for letting me know the free upgrade isn't for Enterprise versions. Do you know if there is an easy downgrade to "regular" versions? It's for a kid, and I just want the kid to have the latest OS but Windows 7 is actually just fine too for her needs (games mostly, & schoolwork, she says). |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On 10/19/2016 12:55 PM, Algeria Horan wrote:
Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10 I tried to install the utility on a just-received handmedown Dell Inspiron D630 laptop today running Windows 7 Enterprise: Windows10Upgrade24074.exe 5,607KB CPU: OK Memory: OK Disk space: OK ! Operating System: Contact your system administrator to upgrade Windows Server or Enterprise editions. ! Disk controller: The current active partition is compressed Googling for how to figure out the windows version: Start Run winver Windows7 Enterprise Version 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1) Any suggestions? Not solving your problem: Back up your hard disk, download the Win 10 ISO, clean install Win 10! It will be a lot less problematic than doing an in-place upgrade! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:44:35 -0000 (UTC), Dave C wrote:
Stay with windows 7. I don't see any compelling advantage with 10 and after the last annoying problem with attribute settings I restored my windows 7 from an image. If you do get to update (for which Paul says you are not eligible), do create and image of the existing system first. I use macrium reflect free version. Thanks. It's a freebie for a kid's first computer. She isn't all that technical, so Windows 7 or 10 is fine for her. The display was intermittently fritzing out because it has an Nvidia GPU which was covered under a class action suite so the company let the employees keep, in 2012, the computers. So that's why it has Enterprise on it. I still would like to put Windows 10 on it, just so that she is learning the "latest" version, but, to me (or to you), there's nothing in Windows 10 (that I know of) that really matters (and there are some bad things too). Anyway, the two problems now, both of which are unsurmountable so far a a. Enterprise isn't part of the free accessibility upgrade to 10 b. Even so, the Nvidia GPU BGA has an intermittent crack somewhere |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On 10/19/2016 at 2:09 PM, Algeria Horan's prodigious digits fired off:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:44:35 -0000 (UTC), Dave C wrote: Stay with windows 7. I don't see any compelling advantage with 10 and after the last annoying problem with attribute settings I restored my windows 7 from an image. If you do get to update (for which Paul says you are not eligible), do create and image of the existing system first. I use macrium reflect free version. Thanks. It's a freebie for a kid's first computer. She isn't all that technical, so Windows 7 or 10 is fine for her. The display was intermittently fritzing out because it has an Nvidia GPU which was covered under a class action suite so the company let the employees keep, in 2012, the computers. So that's why it has Enterprise on it. I still would like to put Windows 10 on it, just so that she is learning the "latest" version, but, to me (or to you), there's nothing in Windows 10 (that I know of) that really matters (and there are some bad things too). Anyway, the two problems now, both of which are unsurmountable so far a a. Enterprise isn't part of the free accessibility upgrade to 10 b. Even so, the Nvidia GPU BGA has an intermittent crack somewhere Looks like your only option is to but/download a copy and do a clean install. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ "I have learned to just grit my teeth, change the subject, consider their deep total ignorance, fondle the guitar picks in my pocket and go on my way." |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
Algeria Horan wrote:
the Nvidia GPU BGA has an intermittent crack somewhere Do you get gumtree over there? here you can find local techies who do reballing of PS3, nvidia etc chips. Maybe it's a craig's list thing over there? |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 14:16:05 -0400, Ed Mullen wrote:
a. Enterprise isn't part of the free accessibility upgrade to 10 b. Even so, the Nvidia GPU BGA has an intermittent crack somewhere Looks like your only option is to but/download a copy and do a clean install. Since the machine is more than 10 years old, I may just borrow a Windows 7 Home from a friend so that I can install Windows 10 on top of that. Before I ask to borrow windows 7, does that "use up" a license for my friend though? |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
Algeria Horan wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 02:17:23 -0400, Paul wrote: The free upgrade is intended for "Consumers". Enterprise VLK operating systems are not entitled to a free upgrade to Windows 10. Thank you. I thought I hit the bonanza when someone gave the Dell to me for free, but it turns out it was her corporate machine in 2007, and it apparently had a recall where Nvidia gave the company the money back but let everyone keep the computer. Problem is that every day or three, the monitor fritzes out and goes all scrambled eggs. The class action suit is long gone (settled in 2010 it seems), so, there's no recourse that I know of for that. Initially I was trying to update the OS because I thought it might be software, but even after updating the BIOS to A19 (2013), it still has the problem. Apparently the "ball grid array" under the GPU develops "cracks". I saw the youtube videos on how to "reflow" them, but they're beyond my scope. Thanks for letting me know the free upgrade isn't for Enterprise versions. Do you know if there is an easy downgrade to "regular" versions? It's for a kid, and I just want the kid to have the latest OS but Windows 7 is actually just fine too for her needs (games mostly, & schoolwork, she says). When the Dell originally shipped, it had a Dell OS on it. The SLIC table in the BIOS, helps such an OS activate immediately. So the machine does (in effect) have a license key for some other OS version. You would search for the recovery DVD for that model of machine, to put the original OS back. Or check to see if there is a recovery partition still on the disk drive. When the Enterprise edition is installed, it's probably cloned over and just blows away the Recovery partition, so there really shouldn't be anything there. Corporate staff don't really care about the recycling of their machines. When a "refurbisher" buys large batches of off-lease machines, the refurbisher installs a "refurbisher version" of Windows 7 Pro, which presumably means a bit more cash for Microsoft. So you may have some options. Giving an Enterprise VLK version to a recipient, isn't the best choice. I don't know anything about VLK rules, but apparently some setups need to be "reactivated" maybe once a year or something. Or, the computer has to "check in" with a server in the corporation. There may be some detail like that. And another possible scenario, is "losing" the license if the OS needs to be reinstalled. If you reinstall a VLK OS, there is a "ceremony" to activate it. And if you're not in the corporate environment, you won't be able to contact their VLK server and finish the job. The VLK server will not be visible on the Internet. To me, the Enterprise OS "works", but the setup is fragile and can lead to surprises later. Whereas, if you can find the recovery DVD kit, you can make a nicer gift of it. If the machine gets malware, they can do the factory restore procedure as long as you've set that all up and tested it. In terms of used computers, you'd be surprised some times, how cheap similar models are on Ebay. In some cases, when your "old" computer has a hardware failure, you can sometimes get an entire Ebay machine, for the same price as buying a new hard drive at the store. You could, say, get another D630, one which wasn't corporate, and just grab the hard drive to get the original OS image. You might also check with local recyclers, and see if they know of a local source of Dell disc sets. If you use the "wrong" Dell DVD set, the main issue is the wrong drivers being present. And perhaps after reinstalling/reloading, it won't boot. And that's one reason that, even though the SLIC will activate multiple OS versions, the driver situation might make things difficult. Intel has arranged their storage ports for good compatibility, so if the chipset is Intel, there's a good chance the booting part of the operation will work. And the OS can survive having the wrong video driver. In which case, you can finish the job of installing drivers yourself. Paul |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
"Paul" wrote:
Algeria Horan wrote: Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10 I tried to install the utility on a just-received handmedown Dell Inspiron D630 laptop today running Windows 7 Enterprise: [...] ! Operating System: Contact your system administrator to upgrade Windows Server or Enterprise editions. ! Disk controller: The current active partition is compressed Any suggestions? The free upgrade is intended for "Consumers". Enterprise VLK operating systems are not entitled to a free upgrade to Windows 10. ObNitpick: There is no D630 in the Inspiron line; that's a Latitude, and a rather old one at that. In either case, it's not listed on Dell's web site as having been tested for the Win10 upgrade. Also, given its age I wouldn't be surprised if there are no Windows-10 compatible drivers that would be required to use all of the hardware features. I've generally had good luck with installing Windows version x on machines that didn't have drivers for x but did have them for x-1. For example, I designed and built the master Windows 7 image on a D830 using Vista drivers, and a Windows 8 master image on a Latitude XT3 using Win7 drivers. Dell's web site has drivers for the D630 only through Vista, and (as an example) the video drivers offered by the site are dated 2011. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't work with Win10 but I would be completely unsurprised if they didn't. But this *is* a computer we're discussing, so who knows what it might do? Joe |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 20:13:17 -0400, Joe Morris wrote:
ObNitpick: There is no D630 in the Inspiron line; that's a Latitude, and a rather old one at that. Ah, you are correct. Brain wasn't in gear, and I'm used to teh Inspiron. But you are correct, it's the Latitude. In either case, it's not listed on Dell's web site as having been tested for the Win10 upgrade. Also, given its age I wouldn't be surprised if there are no Windows-10 compatible drivers that would be required to use all of the hardware features. Hmmm.... interesting datapoint. Thanks. I've generally had good luck with installing Windows version x on machines that didn't have drivers for x but did have them for x-1. For example, I designed and built the master Windows 7 image on a D830 using Vista drivers, and a Windows 8 master image on a Latitude XT3 using Win7 drivers. Good to know. Windows generally runs on everything and Windows 7 Enterprise clearly runs on it (although I was surprised that it's X86 and not 64 bit). Dell's web site has drivers for the D630 only through Vista, and (as an example) the video drivers offered by the site are dated 2011. That doesn't mean that they wouldn't work with Win10 but I would be completely unsurprised if they didn't. But this *is* a computer we're discussing, so who knows what it might do? Thanks for the warning. |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On Wed, 19 Oct 2016 19:49:38 -0400, Paul wrote:
Or check to see if there is a recovery partition still on the disk drive. When the Enterprise edition is installed, it's probably cloned over and just blows away the Recovery partition, Thank you for that excellent and comprehensive advice. The Dell has a service tag on the bottom, so I ran _all_ the diagnostics on the Dell support page, some of which took 45 minutes to run, and all came out clean (other than an old Bios and a few older optional drivers). That's when I updated the BIOS, but it didn't make any difference. I don't remember if it was when I ran Belarc Advisor or the Dell utility, but it said that the "recovery partition" was gone, which you and I both expected. So I agree that the original OS was wiped out when they put Enterprise 7 on it. I asked the donor today who explained mostly what you just inferred. |
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Windows 7 Dell Inspiron D630 won't update to Windows 10
On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 01:31:37 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Back up your hard disk, download the Win 10 ISO, clean install Win 10! It will be a lot less problematic than doing an in-place upgrade! I understand. The clean install is the way to go if Windows 10 is my main goal. Right now, the main goal is the Nvidia graphics problem, which is hardware anyway, which has nothing to do with Windows (but I didn't know that in the beginning). The main reason for Windows 10 would be to start the kid off with that, instead of Windows 7, but one stumbling block is that this PC already has office, but I don't have the oem install disks (I didn't get any disks with it). Do you know if the serial number reported by Belarc Advisor is good enough to install office again on the same machine when Windows 10 is on there? |
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