Where are these THINGS in my verson of WXP-Home? = Sharon

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My version
doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks about.
There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open Control
Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk about?
The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have? All I
have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and cameras"...
No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
..To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
..If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
..If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
..If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
..After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s at
the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

It depends on if you have the "View" of the Control Panel window set either
as "Category" (the new XP GUI view) or "Classic" (Windows 9x) view.

In Control Panel, on the left hand side near the top it has those drop-down
box/menu things the first one has
"Switch to....View". Just swap between the views until you see the icon
you're asking about.

If this doesn't solve the problem, it may be something else that needs to be
done, but I'm all out of suggestions other than the above.

I don't know how else you've customised your system....eg using "Classic"
theme or "XP" theme etc - this completely changes the way the GUI looks and
feels, and the theme you use also determines what shows in windows such as
the Control Panel.

It sounds like the tech guys you're speaking with have their machines on
"Classic" theme/view.


"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote in message
...

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My
version doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks
about. There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open
Control Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk
about? The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have?
All I have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and
cameras"... No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
.To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
.If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
.If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
.If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
.After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s
at the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

There is'nt a 'Printers and other Hardware' option in the control panel

If your camera isnt recognised, did you install the software supplied with
your camera and follow *explicitly* the instructions for installing,
supplied by Camera bumph?
Have you checked the Camera manu.web site for any updated software/drivers
for winxp?

"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote in message
...

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My
version
doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks about.
There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open Control
Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk about?
The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have? All I
have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and
cameras"...
No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
.To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
.If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
.If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
.If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
.After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s
at
the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

Control Panel has 2 different views. You have the Windows XP view and you
have the Classic View. What you see is different between the 2 views.

Example:

On my main computer I have 38 items when using the classic view. If I use
the Windows XP view, these 38 items are contained within 10 choices. The 10
choices are named differently, in trying to indicate what may be within that
particular choice. Each of the 10 choices is a repository for the various
items (out of the 38) that are contained within.

Experiment a bit and get to know your system. There are many choices and
customizations available that allow you to make the system behave the way
YOU would like it to behave. You don't have to live with the defaults,
although I would expect that 75% of all users do just this.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote in message
...

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My
version doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks
about. There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open
Control Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk
about? The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have?
All I have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and
cameras"... No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
.To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
.If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
.If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
.If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
.After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s
at the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

Strange, DL, I have always had it in my control panel.

"DL" dl@spoofmail wrote in message
...
There is'nt a 'Printers and other Hardware' option in the control panel

If your camera isnt recognised, did you install the software supplied with
your camera and follow *explicitly* the instructions for installing,
supplied by Camera bumph?
Have you checked the Camera manu.web site for any updated software/drivers
for winxp?

"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote in message
...

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My
version
doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks about.
There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open
Control
Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk about?
The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have? All I
have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and
cameras"...
No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
.To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
.If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
.If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
.If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
.After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s
at
the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

"Andrew Murray" wrote in message
...
It depends on if you have the "View" of the Control Panel window set
either as "Category" (the new XP GUI view) or "Classic" (Windows 9x) view.

** I would think most average users wouldn't even know about that.

In Control Panel, on the left hand side near the top it has those
drop-down box/menu things the first one has
"Switch to....View". Just swap between the views until you see the icon
you're asking about.

** OK. I found it there.

If this doesn't solve the problem, it may be something else that needs to
be done, but I'm all out of suggestions other than the above.

** I can assume then that the techs and MS site is using the new GUI and
thinks people would know.

I don't know how else you've customised your system....eg using "Classic"
theme or "XP" theme etc - this completely changes the way the GUI looks
and feels, and the theme you use also determines what shows in windows
such as the Control Panel.

** OK. I understand that. Thanks.

It sounds like the tech guys you're speaking with have their machines on
"Classic" theme/view.

** That's what mine is set to - they're using the new view evidently.

FS..........

"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote in message
...

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My
version doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks
about. There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open
Control Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk
about? The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have?
All I have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and
cameras"... No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
.To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
.If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
.If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
.If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
.After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s
at the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

"DL" dl@spoofmail wrote in message
...
There is'nt a 'Printers and other Hardware' option in the control panel

If your camera isnt recognised, did you install the software supplied with
your camera and follow *explicitly* the instructions for installing,
supplied by Camera bumph?

## Yes, even though I've been using this camera for 2 years now without a
problem. I even reinstalled it but the WIZARD still doesn't come up. Add &
Remove Programs wont allow me to *uninstall* it to reinstall it which is
what I would have preferred to do.

Have you checked the Camera manu.web site for any updated software/drivers
for winxp?

## Yes. How do I get the wizard to come up when I install anything into
the flash drive? The camera drivers don't do that, it's not their job.

FS.................

"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote in message
...

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My
version
doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks about.
There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open
Control
Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk about?
The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have? All I
have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and
cameras"...
No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
.To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
.If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
.If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
.If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
.After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s
at
the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

"nor" wrote in message
...
Strange, DL, I have always had it in my control panel.

So do I if I do as she said. I have my PC set to Classic view because I
don't like the new XP interface. When you read instructions they don't give
them for Classic-View evidently.

FS...........

"DL" dl@spoofmail wrote in message
...
There is'nt a 'Printers and other Hardware' option in the control panel

If your camera isnt recognised, did you install the software supplied
with
your camera and follow *explicitly* the instructions for installing,
supplied by Camera bumph?
Have you checked the Camera manu.web site for any updated
software/drivers
for winxp?

"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote in message
...

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My
version
doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks about.
There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open
Control
Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk about?
The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have? All
I
have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and
cameras"...
No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
.To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
.If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
.If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
.If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
.After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the
camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s
at
the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

"Richard Urban [MVP]" wrote in message
...
Control Panel has 2 different views. You have the Windows XP view and you
have the Classic View. What you see is different between the 2 views.

Example:

On my main computer I have 38 items when using the classic view. If I use
the Windows XP view, these 38 items are contained within 10 choices. The
10 choices are named differently, in trying to indicate what may be within
that particular choice. Each of the 10 choices is a repository for the
various items (out of the 38) that are contained within.

$$ Yes, I just learned that. :-)

Experiment a bit and get to know your system. There are many choices and
customizations available that allow you to make the system behave the way
YOU would like it to behave. You don't have to live with the defaults,
although I would expect that 75% of all users do just this.

$$ I prefer the classic view since that's what I'm familiar with. Any idea
how I can get the wizard to work again?

FS.........

--
Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote in message
...

Here is another example why I cannot help myself with WXP-Home. My
version doesn't have so many thing the MS sites (or the techs here) talks
about. There is NO "Printers and Other Hardware" when I click on and open
Control Panel. What version of XP does the MS (and you techs) site talk
about? The Pro version or some brand new version of XP-Home I don't have?
All I have in Control Panel are "Printers and Faxes" and "scanners and
cameras"... No "Printers and Other Hardware."

I found no trouble shooting pages in the MS website for the camera and
scanner wizard.

Note
.To open Scanners and Cameras, click Start, click Control Panel, click
**Printers and Other Hardware**, and then click Scanners and Cameras.
.If you have a Plug and Play camera, Windows detects it and installs it
automatically.
.If your camera or scanner is not Plug and Play, follow the installation
instructions that came with the device
.If your camera or scanner is not listed in the Scanner and Camera
Installation Wizard, try to install it using Device Manager. For more
information, click Related Topics.
.After you install your scanner or camera, you can test it. For more
information, click Related Topics.

** It is installed but I can't test it because when I click on the camera
and properties it says "no information avalible."

Can you somehow find the "camera/scanner wizard" trouble shooting page/s
at the MS site? Maybe I'm not searching right..... :*(

FS.........

On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:28:03 -0500, ~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:

## Yes. How do I get the wizard to come up when I install anything into
the flash drive? The camera drivers don't do that, it's not their job.

Just to clarify: The drivers and camera have to identify themselves to the
WIA services (the underpinnings for the scanner/camera wizard). If camera
is compatible with the wizard and if the camera's WIA drivers have been
installed then the wizard is available to use. So the drivers don't run the
wizard but without them the wizard won't ever show up.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

"Sharon F" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:28:03 -0500, ~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:

## Yes. How do I get the wizard to come up when I install anything
into
the flash drive? The camera drivers don't do that, it's not their job.

Just to clarify: The drivers and camera have to identify themselves to the
WIA services (the underpinnings for the scanner/camera wizard). If camera
is compatible with the wizard and if the camera's WIA drivers have been
installed then the wizard is available to use.

## What does WIA mean? It's been working for 2 years as I said. The
camera's drivers are there! Why isn't the Wizard coming up?

So the drivers don't run the
wizard but without them the wizard won't ever show up.

## I installed all the camera's software several times, and the wizard
still doesn't come up.

FS~

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

FS,

Simply put - your profile setup is still messed up - how about this:

Create yourself a new administrative level user and start using it - I think
a lot of things that are "wrong" for you will fade away.
Yes - I know you are the only user - you still will be, you will just have
two different logons available in Windows XP - there's still only one you -
nothing confusing about that. You could even name the user "FREESPIRIT" if
you like.

HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783

I think this may solve so many of your problems...

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 22:11:41 -0500, ~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:

## What does WIA mean? It's been working for 2 years as I said. The
camera's drivers are there! Why isn't the Wizard coming up?

WIA was introduced... I think in Win98. It stands for "Windows Image
Acquisition." Until WIA appeared, image devices supplied their own TWAIN
drivers (joke: technology without an interesting name).

SP2 is a major update/upgrade to the operating system. Service Packs are
usually notable but SP2 for XP was especially so. While some hardware might
stop working after a minor change, the chances for something to "break"
with a major update are larger.

When hardware suddenly doesn't work after a system change, it's common
practice to reinstall the hardware (and possibly drivers and related
software) so that the device can be "reintroduced" to the rest of the
now-changed-due-to-large-update infrastructure. It's also not unusual to
find new "updated" (or fixed) drivers from the device manufacturers after a
major operating system change is distributed.

There's one fact that is constant about technology - it's always changing.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

"Shenan Stanley" wrote in message
...
FS,

Simply put - your profile setup is still messed up - how about this:

Create yourself a new administrative level user and start using it - I
think a lot of things that are "wrong" for you will fade away.
Yes - I know you are the only user - you still will be, you will just have
two different logons available in Windows XP - there's still only one
you - nothing confusing about that. You could even name the user
"FREESPIRIT" if you like.

HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783

I think this may solve so many of your problems...
====================
OK I created it - now how do I find it? It's not showing under WE. Where
did it go????

FS ~

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

~ FreeSpirit ~ wrote:
HOW TO: Create and Configure User Accounts in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/279783

I think this may solve so many of your problems...
====================
OK I created it - now how do I find it? It's not showing under WE. Where
did it go????

Did you log in as the new user?
Nothing is really created until you do this.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html