Home or Pro??

Well, considering most posts are about errors and other issues, (and if you
read them you can tell if they're an IT), I disagree.
"Walter Clayton" wrote in message
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The capability of people that come here is mixed. Actually more tech heavy
than not for the simple reason they're here. Most people that are
interested
solely in pushing buttons don't make it this far when things go splat or
don't work as expected. The latter tend to call in some one else.

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"PaulC" wrote in message
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But do you think the majority of NG users are ITs, or regular users?
My posts are written so that a regular user can get help from it. Yes,
I'm
sure there are many ways to do things in command line that I say you
can't
do, but I'm talking mostly about GUI, which most users only know how to
use.
Of course, any extra help you provide, I'm sure the OP appreciates.
"Walter Clayton" wrote in message
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And who do think manages the machines in a managed environment?

Today's world is still command line oriented when you get down to
managing
platforms. Any sys or network admin that can not handle command line
and
scripting is in the wrong job. The simple fact of the matter is that
GUI
management of any platform isn't there yet. It's getting close, but
you'd
be
amazed at how much command line and scripting I do. And that for the
simple
reason that there is no push button "thingie" available.

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"PaulC" wrote in message
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Well of course! You can do almost any thing with scripting and reg
editing.
But today's world is GUI, and probably only ITs know how to do what
your
talking about.
"Walter Clayton" wrote in message
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Local policy support is in HE. There is no tool for it, but if you
create
the registry entries they do in fact work. ;-)

As for most of the other items, a lot of sites, even MS, are
thinking
domain
centric. HE can and does support doing remote management via a
number
of
tools and methods outside of GPO, etc. Remote install is in fact
possible
just by pushing the appropriate registry entries and creating the
script.
No
large deal as long as you understand the process. Again, this is
an
instance
where people are hung up on "domain". IT folks forget that there
was
a
world
prior to domains and those tools and methodologies are still just
as
viable
today as they were then.

Gotta admit, I had a different POV on off-line files. I don't use
that
feature on my Pro box since that's my main machine and server
anyway.
I
intentionally push data back and forth between my machines for
backup
as
well as portability. However, off line network files are of
debatable
use
and if the files are large can saturate a network in a hurry.
Problem
is
that if the data is shared, a server goes boom, there are
synchronization
issues if some else grabs the data or needs it.

I wouldn't put a lot of stock in Paul T. BTW at WinSuperSite. He's
still
of
the opinion that clear type has no use on CRTs. ;-)

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"PaulC" wrote in message
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Well, as to #6 (Multiple Languages), I meant by that a
Multi-Language
User
Interface.

Actually,
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h...choosing2.asp,
according to this, 6, 8, 10, and 14 are correct. And (I may still
be
wrong), I could swear that 12 is correct.

And according to info I got from
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...p_home_pro.asp :
13 is correct as well.

Other features in Pro not in Home.
-Dynamic Disk support.
-Roaming Profiles (yes, I know that is for a domain, but the point
is
still
there)
-Local Security Policy

So it turns out, the only one that I feel that I was wrong on were
9
and
11.
The ones I have confirmed (that were in dispute) (and provided
sites
for)
are 6, 8, 10, and 13

To recap:
1- Remote Desktop: Not disputed: Only on
pro
2- Joining a Domain: Not disputed: Only
on
pro
3- File Encryption: Not disputed:
Only
on
pro
4- Advanced Security Settings: Disputed: On home when
in
safe
mode.
5- IIS: Not disputed:
Only
on
pro
6- Multilanguage User Interface: Disputed: Only on pro.
(Confirmed
at http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h.../choosing2.asp)
7- Multiple Processors: Not disputed: Only
on
pro
8- Auto install, ... of programs: Disputed: Only on
pro.
(Confirmed at
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h.../choosing2.asp)
9- Smart Card Support: Disputed: On home as
well
10- Offline Files and Folders: Disputed: Only on
pro.
(Confirmed at
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h.../choosing2.asp
and a few other sites)
11- Wireless Network: Disputed: On home
as
well
12- Unattended Install: Disputed: Can not
confirm
if
you are correct, please provide a site.
13- Sysprep Tool: Disputed: Only
on
pro.
(Confirmed at
http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...p_home_pro.asp)
14- Remote Install: Disputed: Only
on
pro.
(Confirmed at
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/h.../choosing2.asp)
15- Group Policy Not disputed: Only
on
pro
(as to your point, I use group policy for some things, and I'm not
on
a
domain)

So let's see, you originally said that there was not more than 6
differences. I count (including the extra ones I found) ... 14
Differences!
Of course some are bigger than others, but it only takes a few
(talking
from
personal experience, and other people's opinions), to make a home
user
want
pro.

"Walter Clayton" wrote in message
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Nope. ;-)

Quite a bit of what you listed is doable on HE.

...inline..


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"PaulC" wrote in message
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"Walter Clayton" wrote in message
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Such as?

I can enumerate the differences using the fingers (and
thumb)
on
one
hand.
Which I guess is more than few, but less than 6.
Less than 6 eh?
1) Remote Desktop

OK. I forgot this one.

2) Joining a domain

Yep.

3) File Encryption

Yep.

4) Advanced Security Settings

Wrong. Fire HE up in safe mode and take a look. Cacls works
perfectly
fine
in normal as well. ;-)

5) IIS

Yep.

6) Multiple Languages

From what stand point? I can switch and use a different input
language
on
HE.

7) Multiple Processors

Yep.

8) Auto install, configure, remove and repair of programs.

Wrong.

9) Smart Card Support

Wrong.

10) Offline Files and Folders

Wrong. I do it a lot on my HE laptop, especially on the road.
;-)

11) Wireless Network

Thats a big huge wrong. ;-)
HE and wireless networking go hand in hand.

12) Unattended Install

Wrong.

13) System Prep tool

Wrong.

14) Remote Install

Wrong.

15) Group Policy

Yep. But when you're not on a domain, what's the point of GPO?