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How to access my camera in a batch file?
nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg wrote: You couldn't install, configure, use, etc. your beloved devices without them. nonsense. it happens every day for billions of users worldwide. See above. Any and all OSs use 'scripts'. you must have an unusual definition of script, one that's very different from everyone else. Nope. As usual, *you* are the odd man out [1]. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_(computer_programming) But to put things around, are you claiming that iOS does *not* use 'scripts' [2]? [1] The recent discussion about what is and isn't a (personal) "cloud". [2] Because all other main OSs (Windows, Linux, MacOS, Android) *do*. |
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How to access my camera in a batch file?
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote: You couldn't install, configure, use, etc. your beloved devices without them. nonsense. it happens every day for billions of users worldwide. See above. Any and all OSs use 'scripts'. you must have an unusual definition of script, one that's very different from everyone else. Nope. As usual, *you* are the odd man out [1]. nope. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_(computer_programming) users aren't programmers. users do not write scripts or apps to get their work done. users launch existing apps (double-click or tap), do their work (type, draw, capture/edit photos & videos, etc.) and then share the results (print, upload, etc.). as i said, billions of users worldwide are installing and using all sorts of apps, all without scripts. [1] The recent discussion about what is and isn't a (personal) "cloud". a personal cloud is a cloud. a cloud does *not* need to be owned or operated by google, microsoft, apple, dropbox, facebook, etc. to qualify as a cloud. [2] Because all other main OSs (Windows, Linux, MacOS, Android) *do*. nope. not all. classic mac os didn't. embedded devices don't. where are the scripts on a digital camera or a thermostat? you push some buttons or turn some dials. |
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How to access my camera in a batch file?
nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg wrote: You couldn't install, configure, use, etc. your beloved devices without them. nonsense. it happens every day for billions of users worldwide. See above. Any and all OSs use 'scripts'. you must have an unusual definition of script, one that's very different from everyone else. Nope. As usual, *you* are the odd man out [1]. nope. Yep. See for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Script_(computer_programming) users aren't programmers. users do not write scripts or apps to get their work done. whoosh! I said users *use* scripts (whether they realize it or not). I didn't say that users *write* scripts. (Some do write scripts. Probably most - if not all - of the audience in this group has written scripts.) users launch existing apps (double-click or tap), do their work (type, draw, capture/edit photos & videos, etc.) and then share the results (print, upload, etc.). as i said, billions of users worldwide are installing and using all sorts of apps, all without scripts. See above. They're *using* scripts. [Another whoosh! deleted.] [2] Because all other main OSs (Windows, Linux, MacOS, Android) *do*. nope. not all. classic mac os didn't. So that's a yes. embedded devices don't. We didn't talk about embedded devices, did we!? Introducing these kinds of straw men and red herrings shows you've no argument. $DRIFT ON BUT, having said that: You'd be surprised how many embedded devices use scripts. Many embedded devices use some kind of Linux and guess what Linux uses? Some embedded devices even list the output of their boot scripts to their output, for example routers often do. And there are tons of other examples, but you don't *see* (the execution of) the scripts, unless it's intentional (router) or something goes wrong. It's often hilarious to see the output of boot/startup scripts on 'failing' display devices, such as entertainment systems in aeroplanes, vending machines, information displays, etc., etc.. where are the scripts on a digital camera or a thermostat? you push some buttons or turn some dials. In the digital camera, probably not. In the thermostat, quite possibly. $DRIFT OFF |
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How to access my camera in a batch file?
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote: I said users *use* scripts (whether they realize it or not). if they don't realize it, then it doesn't count as using it. I didn't say that users *write* scripts. (Some do write scripts. Probably most - if not all - of the audience in this group has written scripts.) probably, but they're not typical users. the issue is *writing* a script, which is *not* needed in normal everyday use. in this case, it was editing a batch file just to copy photos, when all that is needed is to use any of a number of photo apps and set it to auto-copy. no scripting needed. not only that, but modern apps can do *much* more than a batch file ever could, including organizing by content. users launch existing apps (double-click or tap), do their work (type, draw, capture/edit photos & videos, etc.) and then share the results (print, upload, etc.). as i said, billions of users worldwide are installing and using all sorts of apps, all without scripts. See above. They're *using* scripts. no they definitely aren't. they're using *apps*. |
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How to access my camera in a batch file?
nospam wrote:
In article , Frank Slootweg wrote: I said users *use* scripts (whether they realize it or not). if they don't realize it, then it doesn't count as using it. Yeah, like they don't realize the other software components they're using, so they don't count either! What again was this thread about!? Oh, it was about software. Well, people don't realize that they're using software, so that doesn't count, so your arguments don't count. QED. And yes, what I just typed is pure semantic BS. Why should you have all the fun!? I didn't say that users *write* scripts. (Some do write scripts. Probably most - if not all - of the audience in this group has written scripts.) probably, but they're not typical users. the issue is *writing* a script, which is *not* needed in normal everyday use. Nope. That *was* not the issue. The issue was your non-sensical comment that scripts ('batch files') are "primitive" and "least effective". Now that you can no longer maintain that silly notion, you're emitting yet another straw man / red herring. [Exploding red herring deleted.] Bottom line: You're utterly incapable of conducting an adult discussion, so take some 101 courses in reading for comprehension, discussion, logic and logical fallacies. [This space is intentionally left blank for yet more foot-stamping.] |
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How to access my camera in a batch file?
In article , Frank Slootweg
wrote: I said users *use* scripts (whether they realize it or not). if they don't realize it, then it doesn't count as using it. Yeah, like they don't realize the other software components they're using, so they don't count either! What again was this thread about!? Oh, it was about software. Well, people don't realize that they're using software, so that doesn't count, so your arguments don't count. QED. they realize they're using software, but they don't care *how* that software works internally, nor do they need to. just like someone who drives a car to work every day doesn't need to know how to fix it, or understand thermodynamics, aerodynamics or material science. this is even more true with autonomous vehicles. no need to understand lidar, radar, image recognition, collision avoidance algorithms, etc. And yes, what I just typed is pure semantic BS. Why should you have all the fun!? much of what you type is semantic bull****. I didn't say that users *write* scripts. (Some do write scripts. Probably most - if not all - of the audience in this group has written scripts.) probably, but they're not typical users. the issue is *writing* a script, which is *not* needed in normal everyday use. Nope. That *was* not the issue. copying photos from his cameras was the task. there are *many* ways to do that. the issue was that he refused to evaluate any alternate solutions other than a batch file. The issue was your non-sensical comment that scripts ('batch files') are "primitive" and "least effective". they are primitive, which is why writing/editing a batch file is a poor solution. scripts date back 30+ years, an eon in technology. |
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