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adobe flash player and win 7
there are a few instances where i will go to play a video form the web and will get the message
"run adobe flash" on a gray screen where the video should be. I do have adobe flash as an "ask to activate" plugin to firefox. for windows 7 can it be removed completely or will there still be some sites that insist on it? Thanks |
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adobe flash player and win 7
On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 13:00:33 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 08/11/2018 07:28 AM, wrote: there are a few instances where i will go to play a video form the web and will get the message "run adobe flash" on a gray screen where the video should be. I do have adobe flash as an "ask to activate" plugin to firefox. for windows 7 can it be removed completely or will there still be some sites that insist on it? Thanks How often have you activated it recently? If it's been awhile, you might want to delete it. However, it doesn't seem to be doing any harm, as long as you have "ask to activate". BTW, I am typing this on a "Flashless" PC. At one time, Flash was a part of my normal PC setup. I had to redo my system about a month ago (old laptop was becoming unreliable), and never installed Flash. No site I used needed it. The computer has been up 13 hours and i just checked Task Manager and FLASH is not running. The one game i play is a scrabble-type game named Lexulous and i thought it required it to draw the board and i had marked it "always activate for this site", but they apparently changed that and it has not been called from there since i have played a few moves there in the last 13 hours..... |
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adobe flash player and win 7
jackpatton wrote:
The computer has been up 13 hours and i just checked Task Manager and FLASH is not running. The one game i play is a scrabble-type game named Lexulous and i thought it required it to draw the board and i had marked it "always activate for this site", but they apparently changed that and it has not been called from there since i have played a few moves there in the last 13 hours..... For video content, right-click on where it is playing in the web page. The context menu will indicate if it is Flash or HTML5 video content. Context menu for Flash content: https://www.albinoblacksheep.com/tut...reenshot_b.jpg (notice the Macromedia entry at the bottom) Context menu for HTML5 content: https://imgur.com/a/weqQIDv (author can add their own entries - notice the one for nerds) You didn't give a URL for others to see what content was presented for "Lexulous". Was it https://www.lexulous.com? I didn't signup for anything and just played a game. It doesn't use Flash or HTML5 video or any other video format. It is a Javascripted object. |
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adobe flash player and win 7
On 08/11/2018 06:14 PM, wrote:
[snip] How often have you activated it recently? If it's been awhile, you might want to delete it. However, it doesn't seem to be doing any harm, as long as you have "ask to activate". BTW, I am typing this on a "Flashless" PC. At one time, Flash was a part of my normal PC setup. I had to redo my system about a month ago (old laptop was becoming unreliable), and never installed Flash. No site I used needed it. The computer has been up 13 hours and i just checked Task Manager and FLASH is not running. The one game i play is a scrabble-type game named Lexulous and i thought it required it to draw the board and i had marked it "always activate for this site", but they apparently changed that and it has not been called from there since i have played a few moves there in the last 13 hours..... So you don't need Flash. I left something out of my previous post, about "Never Activate" being preferable to "Ask To Activate" since it hides Flash from the page, and that makes some sites use HTML. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "[Belief in] the supernatural was the recourse of an insufficuent imagination, a derelection of duty, a childish evasion of the difficulty and wonders of the real." |
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adobe flash player and win 7
On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 11:44:35 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 08/11/2018 06:14 PM, wrote: [snip] How often have you activated it recently? If it's been awhile, you might want to delete it. However, it doesn't seem to be doing any harm, as long as you have "ask to activate". BTW, I am typing this on a "Flashless" PC. At one time, Flash was a part of my normal PC setup. I had to redo my system about a month ago (old laptop was becoming unreliable), and never installed Flash. No site I used needed it. The computer has been up 13 hours and i just checked Task Manager and FLASH is not running. The one game i play is a scrabble-type game named Lexulous and i thought it required it to draw the board and i had marked it "always activate for this site", but they apparently changed that and it has not been called from there since i have played a few moves there in the last 13 hours..... So you don't need Flash. I left something out of my previous post, about "Never Activate" being preferable to "Ask To Activate" since it hides Flash from the page, and that makes some sites use HTML. Thanks for that distinction. It helps. |
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adobe flash player and win 7
jackpatton wrote:
there are a few instances where i will go to play a video form the web and will get the message "run adobe flash" on a gray screen where the video should be. I do have adobe flash as an "ask to activate" plugin to firefox. for windows 7 can it be removed completely or will there still be some sites that insist on it? "Ask to activate" means the site can still query the visiting client regarding whether or not it supports Flash, and the client will respond with "Yes" (and it's your choice of whether or not to click on the placeholder the client places where the video stream is presented in the page). That means it can be used to fingerprint you regarding the availability of Flash support in your client. You must set to "Never activate" to completely disable Flash in the client which will then not respond to the request, so the site figures the client has no Flash support. "Ask to activate" means sites can still see your client has Flash support but has refused to allow it until you choose. Whether you uninstall or leave installed the Flash plug-in, "Never activate" will make it appear to any site asking about Flash that it is not available to your client. With "Never activate", the site won't know if you configured the client to hide that it could use Flash or if Flash is not installed. Doesn't matter to the site as "Never activate" with the plug-in installed and the plug-in not installed result in the same response from the client. The only reason to use "Never activate" is to let you change your mind with having to reinstall the plug-in. However, if you intend to always use "Never activate" then you might as well as uninstall the plug-in. Use the Add/Remove Programs applet in Windows to uninstall the Adobe plug-in. There will continue to be sites that require Flash support by the visiting client for many years. Adobe is dropping Flash in 2020 but many sites still have a lot of Flash content. However, when Adobe drops Flash, so will the web browsers, so the sites with Flash content will have no one visiting that can play their Flash content unless they are using an old[er] version of the web browser. Well, it's typical that old versions take a while to fade away after new versions are released. Some users are forced to use old versions either because they want to continue using the old XUL/COM extensions (instead of the new WebExtensions) or the web browser dropped support for their old Windows versions which means the user can only use an old version of the web browser on the old version of Windows. Flash is dead and been replaced with HTML5 video. Flash is a fish that is ashore, beyond the flopping around while thrashing to survive, and at the point it is unmoving except for trying to gulp water through its mouth to pass over its gills. Adobe is dropping Flash. All the web browsers will drop Flash, too. Flash will survive only through use of old versions of web browser but miniscule trickle is not enough for the survival of sites with Flash content. Some sites have both Flash and HTML5 copies of a video stream. They will test the client if it has Flash support: if so then they present the Flash stream and if not then they present the HTML5 stream. The FLash auto-choice will fade away when Adobe drops Flash support. Just remember that "Ask to activate" means the site will see your client supports Flash (and may try to prompt you to allow Flash). If you rarely use Flash and you almost always want sites to not even see your client has Flash support but you still want an occasional escape to enable Flash, set to "Never activate". If you never intent to allow Flash then uninstall it. |
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adobe flash player and win 7
On Sat, 11 Aug 2018 14:49:55 -0500, VanguardLH wrote:
jackpatton wrote: there are a few instances where i will go to play a video form the web and will get the message "run adobe flash" on a gray screen where the video should be. I do have adobe flash as an "ask to activate" plugin to firefox. for windows 7 can it be removed completely or will there still be some sites that insist on it? "Ask to activate" means the site can still query the visiting client regarding whether or not it supports Flash, and the client will respond with "Yes" (and it's your choice of whether or not to click on the placeholder the client places where the video stream is presented in the page). That means it can be used to fingerprint you regarding the availability of Flash support in your client. You must set to "Never activate" to completely disable Flash in the client which will then not respond to the request, so the site figures the client has no Flash support. "Ask to activate" means sites can still see your client has Flash support but has refused to allow it until you choose. Whether you uninstall or leave installed the Flash plug-in, "Never activate" will make it appear to any site asking about Flash that it is not available to your client. With "Never activate", the site won't know if you configured the client to hide that it could use Flash or if Flash is not installed. Doesn't matter to the site as "Never activate" with the plug-in installed and the plug-in not installed result in the same response from the client. The only reason to use "Never activate" is to let you change your mind with having to reinstall the plug-in. However, if you intend to always use "Never activate" then you might as well as uninstall the plug-in. Use the Add/Remove Programs applet in Windows to uninstall the Adobe plug-in. There will continue to be sites that require Flash support by the visiting client for many years. Adobe is dropping Flash in 2020 but many sites still have a lot of Flash content. However, when Adobe drops Flash, so will the web browsers, so the sites with Flash content will have no one visiting that can play their Flash content unless they are using an old[er] version of the web browser. Well, it's typical that old versions take a while to fade away after new versions are released. Some users are forced to use old versions either because they want to continue using the old XUL/COM extensions (instead of the new WebExtensions) or the web browser dropped support for their old Windows versions which means the user can only use an old version of the web browser on the old version of Windows. Flash is dead and been replaced with HTML5 video. Flash is a fish that is ashore, beyond the flopping around while thrashing to survive, and at the point it is unmoving except for trying to gulp water through its mouth to pass over its gills. Adobe is dropping Flash. All the web browsers will drop Flash, too. Flash will survive only through use of old versions of web browser but miniscule trickle is not enough for the survival of sites with Flash content. Some sites have both Flash and HTML5 copies of a video stream. They will test the client if it has Flash support: if so then they present the Flash stream and if not then they present the HTML5 stream. The FLash auto-choice will fade away when Adobe drops Flash support. Just remember that "Ask to activate" means the site will see your client supports Flash (and may try to prompt you to allow Flash). If you rarely use Flash and you almost always want sites to not even see your client has Flash support but you still want an occasional escape to enable Flash, set to "Never activate". If you never intent to allow Flash then uninstall it. Good reasons! |
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