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Old May 22nd 03, 02:03 PM
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Default Wireless Network problems

I am trying to setup a wireless network, consisting of a server running XP
Pro and 9 laptops each using a wireless PCMCIA card, running XP Home,
connecting via a D-Link Broadband router. I have so far managed to get each
laptop to see the server and vice-versa. The main problem at the moment is
that I can't transfer files either to the server or back. Although I can
install programs from the server to each laptop. What have I possibly
missed out?

I have simple file sharing enabled on all laptops and server and shared
folders/files enabled.

Any help appreciated.

S


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Old May 22nd 03, 07:49 PM
yellowpike
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Yo S
try this link
http://www.homenethelp.com/web/howto/net-share-xp.asp
in the screen shots pay particular attention to "Create The Network Share"
Is the second box "allow network users to change my files" selected ?
hope it helps...
yellowpike


"S" wrote in message
...
I am trying to setup a wireless network, consisting of a server running XP
Pro and 9 laptops each using a wireless PCMCIA card, running XP Home,
connecting via a D-Link Broadband router. I have so far managed to get

each
laptop to see the server and vice-versa. The main problem at the moment

is
that I can't transfer files either to the server or back. Although I can
install programs from the server to each laptop. What have I possibly
missed out?

I have simple file sharing enabled on all laptops and server and shared
folders/files enabled.

Any help appreciated.

S




  #3  
Old May 22nd 03, 07:50 PM
Jim
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Default Wireless Network problems

All local firewalls (ICS, Zone Alarm, Norton Internet Security) disabled, OR
better, the XP Pro IP address (server) added to the XP Home (client)
"trusted zones"?

Jim

"S" wrote in message
...
I am trying to setup a wireless network, consisting of a server running XP
Pro and 9 laptops each using a wireless PCMCIA card, running XP Home,
connecting via a D-Link Broadband router. I have so far managed to get

each
laptop to see the server and vice-versa. The main problem at the moment

is
that I can't transfer files either to the server or back. Although I can
install programs from the server to each laptop. What have I possibly
missed out?

I have simple file sharing enabled on all laptops and server and shared
folders/files enabled.

Any help appreciated.

S




  #4  
Old May 22nd 03, 08:04 PM
yellowpike
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Default Wireless Network problems

Hey Jim
Wouldn't a firewall stop the Server to Laptop program installation ?
thanks
yellowpike

"Jim" wrote in message
news:kZ8za.41781$eJ2.13459@fed1read07...
All local firewalls (ICS, Zone Alarm, Norton Internet Security) disabled,

OR
better, the XP Pro IP address (server) added to the XP Home (client)
"trusted zones"?

Jim

"S" wrote in message
...
I am trying to setup a wireless network, consisting of a server running

XP
Pro and 9 laptops each using a wireless PCMCIA card, running XP Home,
connecting via a D-Link Broadband router. I have so far managed to get

each
laptop to see the server and vice-versa. The main problem at the moment

is
that I can't transfer files either to the server or back. Although I

can
install programs from the server to each laptop. What have I possibly
missed out?

I have simple file sharing enabled on all laptops and server and shared
folders/files enabled.

Any help appreciated.

S






  #5  
Old May 22nd 03, 08:29 PM
Jim
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NO! Your clients are INITIATING the program setup FROM their client TO the
server, the local firewalls are perfectly happen to let the local system
retrieve remote files for setup, afterall, the local system is making
OUTBOUND requests, it is to be trusted (of course, individual apps will need
authorization first time, but basic services are automatically authorized
when the local firewall is installed).

But, if the server is trying to send files TO those clients, that's
considered a possible threat, an intruder, until the local firewall is told
to authorize it! Polarity matters here, it's who initiates the request that
defines who and who isn't trusted. You indicated program installation from
the server is fine (well, that only occurs if the client initiates the
request, no firewall issues). If somehow, a server could initiate an
install itself (never seen such an animal), yeah, you'd be right. Then you
stated "I can't transfer files either to the server or back", I admit, this
was a little ambiguous, several ways to interpret that statement, what does
"or back" mean. Anyway, I read into it and decided perhaps you mean the
server can't send files to the clients "and back". Well, that the server
initiating a request, whammo, you have a firewall issue, a potential threat.
Unless and until the clients authorize the server to initiate entry into
their systems, no dice!

Jim


"yellowpike" NoSpamNoWay@forEver wrote in message
...
Hey Jim
Wouldn't a firewall stop the Server to Laptop program installation ?
thanks
yellowpike

"Jim" wrote in message
news:kZ8za.41781$eJ2.13459@fed1read07...
All local firewalls (ICS, Zone Alarm, Norton Internet Security)

disabled,
OR
better, the XP Pro IP address (server) added to the XP Home (client)
"trusted zones"?

Jim

"S" wrote in message
...
I am trying to setup a wireless network, consisting of a server

running
XP
Pro and 9 laptops each using a wireless PCMCIA card, running XP Home,
connecting via a D-Link Broadband router. I have so far managed to get

each
laptop to see the server and vice-versa. The main problem at the

moment
is
that I can't transfer files either to the server or back. Although I

can
install programs from the server to each laptop. What have I possibly
missed out?

I have simple file sharing enabled on all laptops and server and

shared
folders/files enabled.

Any help appreciated.

S








  #6  
Old May 22nd 03, 08:40 PM
yellowpike
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Default Wireless Network problems

"Polarity matters here, it's who initiates the request that
defines who and who isn't trusted."
Very well put sir !
I have yet to stop learning anytime I visit this site.

now I hope S has his answer

My Thanks
yellowpike


"Jim" wrote in message
news:Px9za.41786$eJ2.11035@fed1read07...
NO! Your clients are INITIATING the program setup FROM their client TO

the
server, the local firewalls are perfectly happen to let the local system
retrieve remote files for setup, afterall, the local system is making
OUTBOUND requests, it is to be trusted (of course, individual apps will

need
authorization first time, but basic services are automatically authorized
when the local firewall is installed).

But, if the server is trying to send files TO those clients, that's
considered a possible threat, an intruder, until the local firewall is

told
to authorize it! Polarity matters here, it's who initiates the request

that
defines who and who isn't trusted. You indicated program installation

from
the server is fine (well, that only occurs if the client initiates the
request, no firewall issues). If somehow, a server could initiate an
install itself (never seen such an animal), yeah, you'd be right. Then

you
stated "I can't transfer files either to the server or back", I admit,

this
was a little ambiguous, several ways to interpret that statement, what

does
"or back" mean. Anyway, I read into it and decided perhaps you mean the
server can't send files to the clients "and back". Well, that the server
initiating a request, whammo, you have a firewall issue, a potential

threat.
Unless and until the clients authorize the server to initiate entry into
their systems, no dice!

Jim


"yellowpike" NoSpamNoWay@forEver wrote in message
...
Hey Jim
Wouldn't a firewall stop the Server to Laptop program installation ?
thanks
yellowpike

"Jim" wrote in message
news:kZ8za.41781$eJ2.13459@fed1read07...
All local firewalls (ICS, Zone Alarm, Norton Internet Security)

disabled,
OR
better, the XP Pro IP address (server) added to the XP Home (client)
"trusted zones"?

Jim

"S" wrote in message
...
I am trying to setup a wireless network, consisting of a server

running
XP
Pro and 9 laptops each using a wireless PCMCIA card, running XP

Home,
connecting via a D-Link Broadband router. I have so far managed to

get
each
laptop to see the server and vice-versa. The main problem at the

moment
is
that I can't transfer files either to the server or back. Although

I
can
install programs from the server to each laptop. What have I

possibly
missed out?

I have simple file sharing enabled on all laptops and server and

shared
folders/files enabled.

Any help appreciated.

S










  #7  
Old May 22nd 03, 09:05 PM
Jim
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Default Wireless Network problems

P.S. Remember, ANYONE initiating a request to those clients is a potential
intruder, including its peers (those other 8 clients). You used the ONE
server in your example, but the other clients are equal threats, UNTIL, you
authorize them as well. In order to make the whole process simpler, most
local firewalls allow you to define a "range" of authorized IPs, as opposed
to individual IPs, so unless you want such fine granularity in your firewall
setup (a hassle, frankly), I just recommend adding the DHCP range to the
trusted zone in all your local firewalls. Perhaps the only exception might
be if you had wireless, additional security can be had by LIMITING
authorized IPs to KNOWN individual IPs, thus keeping out rogue wireless
hackers who might happen to gain entry to your network.

Jim

"yellowpike" NoSpamNoWay@forEver wrote in message
...
"Polarity matters here, it's who initiates the request that
defines who and who isn't trusted."
Very well put sir !
I have yet to stop learning anytime I visit this site.

now I hope S has his answer

My Thanks
yellowpike


"Jim" wrote in message
news:Px9za.41786$eJ2.11035@fed1read07...
NO! Your clients are INITIATING the program setup FROM their client TO

the
server, the local firewalls are perfectly happen to let the local system
retrieve remote files for setup, afterall, the local system is making
OUTBOUND requests, it is to be trusted (of course, individual apps will

need
authorization first time, but basic services are automatically

authorized
when the local firewall is installed).

But, if the server is trying to send files TO those clients, that's
considered a possible threat, an intruder, until the local firewall is

told
to authorize it! Polarity matters here, it's who initiates the request

that
defines who and who isn't trusted. You indicated program installation

from
the server is fine (well, that only occurs if the client initiates the
request, no firewall issues). If somehow, a server could initiate an
install itself (never seen such an animal), yeah, you'd be right. Then

you
stated "I can't transfer files either to the server or back", I admit,

this
was a little ambiguous, several ways to interpret that statement, what

does
"or back" mean. Anyway, I read into it and decided perhaps you mean the
server can't send files to the clients "and back". Well, that the

server
initiating a request, whammo, you have a firewall issue, a potential

threat.
Unless and until the clients authorize the server to initiate entry into
their systems, no dice!

Jim


"yellowpike" NoSpamNoWay@forEver wrote in message
...
Hey Jim
Wouldn't a firewall stop the Server to Laptop program installation ?
thanks
yellowpike

"Jim" wrote in message
news:kZ8za.41781$eJ2.13459@fed1read07...
All local firewalls (ICS, Zone Alarm, Norton Internet Security)

disabled,
OR
better, the XP Pro IP address (server) added to the XP Home (client)
"trusted zones"?

Jim

"S" wrote in message
...
I am trying to setup a wireless network, consisting of a server

running
XP
Pro and 9 laptops each using a wireless PCMCIA card, running XP

Home,
connecting via a D-Link Broadband router. I have so far managed to

get
each
laptop to see the server and vice-versa. The main problem at the

moment
is
that I can't transfer files either to the server or back.

Although
I
can
install programs from the server to each laptop. What have I

possibly
missed out?

I have simple file sharing enabled on all laptops and server and

shared
folders/files enabled.

Any help appreciated.

S












  #8  
Old May 22nd 03, 09:46 PM
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Default Wireless Network problems

Thanks for the info.
I perhaps didn't explain it fully.
When I mentioned about program installation, I meant that from each laptop I
am able to install a program from the server. And as for the files, what I
meant was that I couldn't transfer/copy files from any laptop to server and
vice-versa, so you did read it right.

So it looks as if NIS needs to be configured on each laptop in order for us
to indeed transfer/copy files.

Rgds
S

"Jim" wrote in message
news:Px9za.41786$eJ2.11035@fed1read07...
NO! Your clients are INITIATING the program setup FROM their client TO

the
server, the local firewalls are perfectly happen to let the local system
retrieve remote files for setup, afterall, the local system is making
OUTBOUND requests, it is to be trusted (of course, individual apps will

need
authorization first time, but basic services are automatically authorized
when the local firewall is installed).

But, if the server is trying to send files TO those clients, that's
considered a possible threat, an intruder, until the local firewall is

told
to authorize it! Polarity matters here, it's who initiates the request

that
defines who and who isn't trusted. You indicated program installation

from
the server is fine (well, that only occurs if the client initiates the
request, no firewall issues). If somehow, a server could initiate an
install itself (never seen such an animal), yeah, you'd be right. Then

you
stated "I can't transfer files either to the server or back", I admit,

this
was a little ambiguous, several ways to interpret that statement, what

does
"or back" mean. Anyway, I read into it and decided perhaps you mean the
server can't send files to the clients "and back". Well, that the server
initiating a request, whammo, you have a firewall issue, a potential

threat.
Unless and until the clients authorize the server to initiate entry into
their systems, no dice!

Jim


"yellowpike" NoSpamNoWay@forEver wrote in message
...
Hey Jim
Wouldn't a firewall stop the Server to Laptop program installation ?
thanks
yellowpike

"Jim" wrote in message
news:kZ8za.41781$eJ2.13459@fed1read07...
All local firewalls (ICS, Zone Alarm, Norton Internet Security)

disabled,
OR
better, the XP Pro IP address (server) added to the XP Home (client)
"trusted zones"?

Jim

"S" wrote in message
...
I am trying to setup a wireless network, consisting of a server

running
XP
Pro and 9 laptops each using a wireless PCMCIA card, running XP

Home,
connecting via a D-Link Broadband router. I have so far managed to

get
each
laptop to see the server and vice-versa. The main problem at the

moment
is
that I can't transfer files either to the server or back. Although

I
can
install programs from the server to each laptop. What have I

possibly
missed out?

I have simple file sharing enabled on all laptops and server and

shared
folders/files enabled.

Any help appreciated.

S










 




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