Wireless help

I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still need
a little help.

I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro ) via
a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router.

As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and
vice-versa. This is the problem so far.
files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy files
from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server to
any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to do
with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it would be
appreciated.

The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a
"Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the disk
is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in use"

And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this dialog
box:
"Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges over
the network drive".

I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop, but
there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I have
placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from
192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the firewall &
filter settings have yet to be setup.

One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the following
protocols are installed:
Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
NWLink NetBIOS
NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed.

Any help on the above appreciated.

S

Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home PCs in
the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the firewall
shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the firewall
completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)?

Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need TCP/IP for
the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you have
Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and may
even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky conflict
related to this problem).

You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled):

Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Jim



"S" wrote in message
...
I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still
need
a little help.

I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro )
via
a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router.

As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and
vice-versa. This is the problem so far.
files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy
files
from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server to
any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to do
with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it would
be
appreciated.

The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a
"Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the
disk
is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in use"

And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this
dialog
box:
"Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges
over
the network drive".

I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop, but
there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I
have
placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from
192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the firewall
&
filter settings have yet to be setup.

One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the
following
protocols are installed:
Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
NWLink NetBIOS
NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed.

Any help on the above appreciated.

S

Jim, thanks for the input,

When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are
referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server,
when the router can do the job? As for the protocols, these were apparently
installed by whoever supplied these laptops (Sony Vaio's). I just wondered
why they had installed them. Normally I would have just installed the ones
you mentioned.

Anyhow will try what you have said. Once again thanks.

S

"Jim" wrote in message
news:I5vza.31954$Dr3.6533@fed1read02...
Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home PCs in
the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the firewall
shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the firewall
completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)?

Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need TCP/IP
for
the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you have
Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and may
even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky conflict
related to this problem).

You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled):

Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Jim



"S" wrote in message
...
I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still
need
a little help.

I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro )
via
a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router.

As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and
vice-versa. This is the problem so far.
files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy
files
from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server
to
any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to
do
with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it
would
be
appreciated.

The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a
"Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the
disk
is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in
use"

And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this
dialog
box:
"Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges
over
the network drive".

I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop,
but
there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I
have
placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from
192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the
firewall
&
filter settings have yet to be setup.

One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the
following
protocols are installed:
Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
NWLink NetBIOS
NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed.

Any help on the above appreciated.

S

When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are
referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server,

Yes.

WRT "is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router
can do the job? "

In this context, I'm not treating the server any differently than the
clients, they're all peers and that's how my comments should be understood.

A local firewall and the router's firewall are slightly different beasts.
The local firewall provides application-level protection, preventing adware,
spyware, virus, and alike, from setting up "shop" on your PCs. The local
firewall gives you fine control over exactly which apps do and do not have
access to the network, both IN and OUT. The router's firewall has no such
capability, it's normally inbound protection (although you can add outbound
as well, a bit tedous to manage though) and limited to the TCP/IP layer. So
the local firewall *can* be thought of as a "supplement" to the router's
firewall, but not a substitute. The router's firewall also doesn't prevent
local users (your peers elsewhere on the LAN) from intrusion (yeah, Windows
has some protection, but not at the firewall level)! For home users, this
may or may not be an issue. In a corporate enviroment, you may not even
control the router! Some ports you consider dangerous or otherwise wish to
be protected, may be left wide open (perhap remote users, VPN, pcAnywhere,
etc). And anyone in the security field knows that the key to security is
"layering". Better to construct two or more obstacles of good protection,
than rely on ONE bohemyth that if breached, leaves the door wide open.

Many people dump the local firewall immediately after upgrading to the
router, too much of a hassle, which I understand. But it DOES have value
unavailable from the hardware router. So it's your choice. I use NIS
myself in conjunction w/ D-Link router. Works great, plus NIS has a great
ad-blocking capability, beats ZA hands-down. Your typical router is not
going to provide anything like ad-blocking either.

Jim


"S" wrote in message
...
Jim, thanks for the input,

When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are
referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server,
when the router can do the job? As for the protocols, these were
apparently
installed by whoever supplied these laptops (Sony Vaio's). I just
wondered
why they had installed them. Normally I would have just installed the ones
you mentioned.

Anyhow will try what you have said. Once again thanks.

S

"Jim" wrote in message
news:I5vza.31954$Dr3.6533@fed1read02...
Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home PCs
in
the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the
firewall
shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the firewall
completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)?

Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need TCP/IP
for
the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you
have
Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and
may
even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky
conflict
related to this problem).

You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled):

Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Jim



"S" wrote in message
...
I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but
still
need
a little help.

I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP
Pro )
via
a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router.

As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and
vice-versa. This is the problem so far.
files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy
files
from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server
to
any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something
to
do
with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it
would
be
appreciated.

The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a
"Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure
the
disk
is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in
use"

And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this
dialog
box:
"Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges
over
the network drive".

I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop,
but
there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although
I
have
placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from
192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the
firewall
&
filter settings have yet to be setup.

One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the
following
protocols are installed:
Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
NWLink NetBIOS
NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed.

Any help on the above appreciated.

S

Hey Jim
I have learned more about firewalls from 2 of your posts than from any help
file in any FW program.
Honest to god, you have a gift for this stuff.
Thanks
yellowpike


"Jim" wrote in message
news:wKyza.32453$Dr3.30032@fed1read02...
When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you
are
referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server,

Yes.

WRT "is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router
can do the job? "

In this context, I'm not treating the server any differently than the
clients, they're all peers and that's how my comments should be
understood.

A local firewall and the router's firewall are slightly different beasts.
The local firewall provides application-level protection, preventing
adware,
spyware, virus, and alike, from setting up "shop" on your PCs. The local
firewall gives you fine control over exactly which apps do and do not have
access to the network, both IN and OUT. The router's firewall has no such
capability, it's normally inbound protection (although you can add
outbound
as well, a bit tedous to manage though) and limited to the TCP/IP layer.
So
the local firewall *can* be thought of as a "supplement" to the router's
firewall, but not a substitute. The router's firewall also doesn't
prevent
local users (your peers elsewhere on the LAN) from intrusion (yeah,
Windows
has some protection, but not at the firewall level)! For home users, this
may or may not be an issue. In a corporate enviroment, you may not even
control the router! Some ports you consider dangerous or otherwise wish
to
be protected, may be left wide open (perhap remote users, VPN, pcAnywhere,
etc). And anyone in the security field knows that the key to security is
"layering". Better to construct two or more obstacles of good protection,
than rely on ONE bohemyth that if breached, leaves the door wide open.

Many people dump the local firewall immediately after upgrading to the
router, too much of a hassle, which I understand. But it DOES have value
unavailable from the hardware router. So it's your choice. I use NIS
myself in conjunction w/ D-Link router. Works great, plus NIS has a great
ad-blocking capability, beats ZA hands-down. Your typical router is not
going to provide anything like ad-blocking either.

Jim


"S" wrote in message
...
Jim, thanks for the input,

When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you
are
referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server,
when the router can do the job? As for the protocols, these were
apparently
installed by whoever supplied these laptops (Sony Vaio's). I just
wondered
why they had installed them. Normally I would have just installed the
ones
you mentioned.

Anyhow will try what you have said. Once again thanks.

S

"Jim" wrote in message
news:I5vza.31954$Dr3.6533@fed1read02...
Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home
PCs
in
the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the
firewall
shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the
firewall
completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)?

Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need
TCP/IP
for
the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you
have
Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and
may
even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky
conflict
related to this problem).

You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled):

Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Jim



"S" wrote in message
...
I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but
still
need
a little help.

I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP
Pro )
via
a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router.

As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and
vice-versa. This is the problem so far.
files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't
copy
files
from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the
server
to
any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something
to
do
with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it
would
be
appreciated.

The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a
"Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure
the
disk
is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently
in
use"

And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this
dialog
box:
"Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security
privileges
over
the network drive".

I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any
laptop,
but
there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003.
Although
I
have
placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from
192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the
firewall
&
filter settings have yet to be setup.

One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the
following
protocols are installed:
Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
NWLink NetBIOS
NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they
needed.

Any help on the above appreciated.

S

Thanks once again Jim for the info.
S
"Jim" wrote in message
news:wKyza.32453$Dr3.30032@fed1read02...
When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you
are
referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server,

Yes.

WRT "is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router
can do the job? "

In this context, I'm not treating the server any differently than the
clients, they're all peers and that's how my comments should be
understood.

A local firewall and the router's firewall are slightly different beasts.
The local firewall provides application-level protection, preventing
adware,
spyware, virus, and alike, from setting up "shop" on your PCs. The local
firewall gives you fine control over exactly which apps do and do not have
access to the network, both IN and OUT. The router's firewall has no such
capability, it's normally inbound protection (although you can add
outbound
as well, a bit tedous to manage though) and limited to the TCP/IP layer.
So
the local firewall *can* be thought of as a "supplement" to the router's
firewall, but not a substitute. The router's firewall also doesn't
prevent
local users (your peers elsewhere on the LAN) from intrusion (yeah,
Windows
has some protection, but not at the firewall level)! For home users, this
may or may not be an issue. In a corporate enviroment, you may not even
control the router! Some ports you consider dangerous or otherwise wish
to
be protected, may be left wide open (perhap remote users, VPN, pcAnywhere,
etc). And anyone in the security field knows that the key to security is
"layering". Better to construct two or more obstacles of good protection,
than rely on ONE bohemyth that if breached, leaves the door wide open.

Many people dump the local firewall immediately after upgrading to the
router, too much of a hassle, which I understand. But it DOES have value
unavailable from the hardware router. So it's your choice. I use NIS
myself in conjunction w/ D-Link router. Works great, plus NIS has a great
ad-blocking capability, beats ZA hands-down. Your typical router is not
going to provide anything like ad-blocking either.

Jim


"S" wrote in message
...
Jim, thanks for the input,

When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you
are
referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server,
when the router can do the job? As for the protocols, these were
apparently
installed by whoever supplied these laptops (Sony Vaio's). I just
wondered
why they had installed them. Normally I would have just installed the
ones
you mentioned.

Anyhow will try what you have said. Once again thanks.

S

"Jim" wrote in message
news:I5vza.31954$Dr3.6533@fed1read02...
Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home
PCs
in
the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the
firewall
shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the
firewall
completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)?

Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need
TCP/IP
for
the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you
have
Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and
may
even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky
conflict
related to this problem).

You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled):

Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Jim



"S" wrote in message
...
I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but
still
need
a little help.

I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP
Pro )
via
a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router.

As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and
vice-versa. This is the problem so far.
files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't
copy
files
from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the
server
to
any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something
to
do
with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it
would
be
appreciated.

The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a
"Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure
the
disk
is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently
in
use"

And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this
dialog
box:
"Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security
privileges
over
the network drive".

I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any
laptop,
but
there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003.
Although
I
have
placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from
192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the
firewall
&
filter settings have yet to be setup.

One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the
following
protocols are installed:
Client for MS Networks
File and print sharing for MS Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler
NWLink NetBIOS
NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol
Internet Protocol TCP/IP

Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they
needed.

Any help on the above appreciated.

S