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Wireless help
I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still need
a little help. I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro ) via a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router. As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and vice-versa. This is the problem so far. files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy files from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server to any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to do with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it would be appreciated. The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a "Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in use" And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this dialog box: "Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges over the network drive". I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop, but there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I have placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the firewall & filter settings have yet to be setup. One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the following protocols are installed: Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks QoS Packet Scheduler NWLink NetBIOS NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol Internet Protocol TCP/IP Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed. Any help on the above appreciated. S |
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Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home PCs in
the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the firewall shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the firewall completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)? Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need TCP/IP for the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you have Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and may even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky conflict related to this problem). You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled): Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks Internet Protocol TCP/IP Jim "S" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still need a little help. I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro ) via a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router. As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and vice-versa. This is the problem so far. files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy files from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server to any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to do with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it would be appreciated. The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a "Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in use" And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this dialog box: "Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges over the network drive". I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop, but there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I have placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the firewall & filter settings have yet to be setup. One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the following protocols are installed: Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks QoS Packet Scheduler NWLink NetBIOS NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol Internet Protocol TCP/IP Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed. Any help on the above appreciated. S |
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Jim, thanks for the input,
When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router can do the job? As for the protocols, these were apparently installed by whoever supplied these laptops (Sony Vaio's). I just wondered why they had installed them. Normally I would have just installed the ones you mentioned. Anyhow will try what you have said. Once again thanks. S "Jim" wrote in message news:I5vza.31954$Dr3.6533@fed1read02... Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home PCs in the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the firewall shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the firewall completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)? Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need TCP/IP for the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you have Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and may even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky conflict related to this problem). You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled): Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks Internet Protocol TCP/IP Jim "S" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still need a little help. I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro ) via a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router. As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and vice-versa. This is the problem so far. files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy files from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server to any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to do with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it would be appreciated. The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a "Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in use" And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this dialog box: "Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges over the network drive". I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop, but there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I have placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the firewall & filter settings have yet to be setup. One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the following protocols are installed: Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks QoS Packet Scheduler NWLink NetBIOS NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol Internet Protocol TCP/IP Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed. Any help on the above appreciated. S |
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When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are
referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server, Yes. WRT "is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router can do the job? " In this context, I'm not treating the server any differently than the clients, they're all peers and that's how my comments should be understood. A local firewall and the router's firewall are slightly different beasts. The local firewall provides application-level protection, preventing adware, spyware, virus, and alike, from setting up "shop" on your PCs. The local firewall gives you fine control over exactly which apps do and do not have access to the network, both IN and OUT. The router's firewall has no such capability, it's normally inbound protection (although you can add outbound as well, a bit tedous to manage though) and limited to the TCP/IP layer. So the local firewall *can* be thought of as a "supplement" to the router's firewall, but not a substitute. The router's firewall also doesn't prevent local users (your peers elsewhere on the LAN) from intrusion (yeah, Windows has some protection, but not at the firewall level)! For home users, this may or may not be an issue. In a corporate enviroment, you may not even control the router! Some ports you consider dangerous or otherwise wish to be protected, may be left wide open (perhap remote users, VPN, pcAnywhere, etc). And anyone in the security field knows that the key to security is "layering". Better to construct two or more obstacles of good protection, than rely on ONE bohemyth that if breached, leaves the door wide open. Many people dump the local firewall immediately after upgrading to the router, too much of a hassle, which I understand. But it DOES have value unavailable from the hardware router. So it's your choice. I use NIS myself in conjunction w/ D-Link router. Works great, plus NIS has a great ad-blocking capability, beats ZA hands-down. Your typical router is not going to provide anything like ad-blocking either. Jim "S" wrote in message ... Jim, thanks for the input, When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router can do the job? As for the protocols, these were apparently installed by whoever supplied these laptops (Sony Vaio's). I just wondered why they had installed them. Normally I would have just installed the ones you mentioned. Anyhow will try what you have said. Once again thanks. S "Jim" wrote in message news:I5vza.31954$Dr3.6533@fed1read02... Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home PCs in the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the firewall shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the firewall completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)? Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need TCP/IP for the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you have Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and may even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky conflict related to this problem). You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled): Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks Internet Protocol TCP/IP Jim "S" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still need a little help. I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro ) via a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router. As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and vice-versa. This is the problem so far. files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy files from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server to any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to do with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it would be appreciated. The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a "Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in use" And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this dialog box: "Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges over the network drive". I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop, but there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I have placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the firewall & filter settings have yet to be setup. One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the following protocols are installed: Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks QoS Packet Scheduler NWLink NetBIOS NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol Internet Protocol TCP/IP Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed. Any help on the above appreciated. S |
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Hey Jim
I have learned more about firewalls from 2 of your posts than from any help file in any FW program. Honest to god, you have a gift for this stuff. Thanks yellowpike "Jim" wrote in message news:wKyza.32453$Dr3.30032@fed1read02... When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server, Yes. WRT "is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router can do the job? " In this context, I'm not treating the server any differently than the clients, they're all peers and that's how my comments should be understood. A local firewall and the router's firewall are slightly different beasts. The local firewall provides application-level protection, preventing adware, spyware, virus, and alike, from setting up "shop" on your PCs. The local firewall gives you fine control over exactly which apps do and do not have access to the network, both IN and OUT. The router's firewall has no such capability, it's normally inbound protection (although you can add outbound as well, a bit tedous to manage though) and limited to the TCP/IP layer. So the local firewall *can* be thought of as a "supplement" to the router's firewall, but not a substitute. The router's firewall also doesn't prevent local users (your peers elsewhere on the LAN) from intrusion (yeah, Windows has some protection, but not at the firewall level)! For home users, this may or may not be an issue. In a corporate enviroment, you may not even control the router! Some ports you consider dangerous or otherwise wish to be protected, may be left wide open (perhap remote users, VPN, pcAnywhere, etc). And anyone in the security field knows that the key to security is "layering". Better to construct two or more obstacles of good protection, than rely on ONE bohemyth that if breached, leaves the door wide open. Many people dump the local firewall immediately after upgrading to the router, too much of a hassle, which I understand. But it DOES have value unavailable from the hardware router. So it's your choice. I use NIS myself in conjunction w/ D-Link router. Works great, plus NIS has a great ad-blocking capability, beats ZA hands-down. Your typical router is not going to provide anything like ad-blocking either. Jim "S" wrote in message ... Jim, thanks for the input, When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router can do the job? As for the protocols, these were apparently installed by whoever supplied these laptops (Sony Vaio's). I just wondered why they had installed them. Normally I would have just installed the ones you mentioned. Anyhow will try what you have said. Once again thanks. S "Jim" wrote in message news:I5vza.31954$Dr3.6533@fed1read02... Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home PCs in the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the firewall shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the firewall completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)? Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need TCP/IP for the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you have Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and may even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky conflict related to this problem). You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled): Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks Internet Protocol TCP/IP Jim "S" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still need a little help. I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro ) via a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router. As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and vice-versa. This is the problem so far. files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy files from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server to any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to do with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it would be appreciated. The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a "Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in use" And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this dialog box: "Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges over the network drive". I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop, but there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I have placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the firewall & filter settings have yet to be setup. One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the following protocols are installed: Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks QoS Packet Scheduler NWLink NetBIOS NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol Internet Protocol TCP/IP Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed. Any help on the above appreciated. S |
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Thanks once again Jim for the info.
S "Jim" wrote in message news:wKyza.32453$Dr3.30032@fed1read02... When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server, Yes. WRT "is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router can do the job? " In this context, I'm not treating the server any differently than the clients, they're all peers and that's how my comments should be understood. A local firewall and the router's firewall are slightly different beasts. The local firewall provides application-level protection, preventing adware, spyware, virus, and alike, from setting up "shop" on your PCs. The local firewall gives you fine control over exactly which apps do and do not have access to the network, both IN and OUT. The router's firewall has no such capability, it's normally inbound protection (although you can add outbound as well, a bit tedous to manage though) and limited to the TCP/IP layer. So the local firewall *can* be thought of as a "supplement" to the router's firewall, but not a substitute. The router's firewall also doesn't prevent local users (your peers elsewhere on the LAN) from intrusion (yeah, Windows has some protection, but not at the firewall level)! For home users, this may or may not be an issue. In a corporate enviroment, you may not even control the router! Some ports you consider dangerous or otherwise wish to be protected, may be left wide open (perhap remote users, VPN, pcAnywhere, etc). And anyone in the security field knows that the key to security is "layering". Better to construct two or more obstacles of good protection, than rely on ONE bohemyth that if breached, leaves the door wide open. Many people dump the local firewall immediately after upgrading to the router, too much of a hassle, which I understand. But it DOES have value unavailable from the hardware router. So it's your choice. I use NIS myself in conjunction w/ D-Link router. Works great, plus NIS has a great ad-blocking capability, beats ZA hands-down. Your typical router is not going to provide anything like ad-blocking either. Jim "S" wrote in message ... Jim, thanks for the input, When you say "have you DISABLED the firewall completely" I take it you are referring to NIS. Is there really any point in having it on the server, when the router can do the job? As for the protocols, these were apparently installed by whoever supplied these laptops (Sony Vaio's). I just wondered why they had installed them. Normally I would have just installed the ones you mentioned. Anyhow will try what you have said. Once again thanks. S "Jim" wrote in message news:I5vza.31954$Dr3.6533@fed1read02... Normally this is a firewall problem, but if you place these XP Home PCs in the XP Pro server's trusted zone, it should work (or at least the firewall shouldn't be a problem). Just to be sure, have you DISABLED the firewall completely (just in case there's still an undiscovered config error)? Wow, you really NEED all those protocols? Frankly, you only need TCP/IP for the MS network. You can dump the Netware stuff (NWLink *) unless you have Netware resources (server, for example). Otherwise, it's clutter and may even slow down your network access (maybe even causing some funky conflict related to this problem). You only (typically) need (clients and server, all should be enabled): Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks Internet Protocol TCP/IP Jim "S" wrote in message ... I'm still trying to get this wireless network up and running, but still need a little help. I have a number of laptops (XP Home) that connect to a server ( XP Pro ) via a D-Link DI-614+ Broadband Router. As it stands at the moment all the laptops can see the server and vice-versa. This is the problem so far. files can be copied off of the laptops by the server, but I can't copy files from the laptops to the server, nor can I copy files off of the server to any laptops. I hope that makes sense!! I am guessing its something to do with permissions, so if anyone has an idea on what I need to do, it would be appreciated. The sort of dialog boxes that come up when trying to copy files a "Cannot copy document from the server: Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write protected, and that the file is not currently in use" And on saving a txt document to the server from a laptop I get this dialog box: "Document ****.txt cannot access this file. Check security privileges over the network drive". I have so far not installed any AV or Firewall software on any laptop, but there is on the server such as Norton AV 2003 and NIS 2003. Although I have placed a range of IP addresses into the trusted zone, range from 192.168.0.1 to 192.168.0.200 . As for the Broadband router, the firewall & filter settings have yet to be setup. One other question if I may, In Network Connection Properties the following protocols are installed: Client for MS Networks File and print sharing for MS Networks QoS Packet Scheduler NWLink NetBIOS NWLink IPX/SPX/Netbios compatible Transport Protocol Internet Protocol TCP/IP Should both of the NWLink protocols be installed, or are they needed. Any help on the above appreciated. S |
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