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another issue or odd note.
I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. its a minor issue and easy to get around., however .INI files ( config file) have security levels raised to prevent users from editing it, again by OS level changes. this too is a minor issue, I just modify the permissions to allow it. The odd thing, apparently after Win7 and now Win10TP , running the program creates a hidden folder and a series of sub folders titled C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Progr am Files not a problem , however IF you need to modify the program or upgrade the system created folder prevents the new version from running and errors out. deleting the hidden folder and rebooting the the computer allows a new set of the virtualstore folders to be created and all is fine again. Did not see this issue with earlier version of Windows.. NOT a compliant just observations of the differences. isn,t that what running the tech preveiw is all about ? any thoughts welcomed... |
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:15:35 -0600, John Szalay john.szalay.at.att.net
wrote: I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. snip any thoughts welcomed... Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it |
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:15:35 -0600, John Szalay john.szalay.at.att.net
wrote: I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. snip any thoughts welcomed... Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it |
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another issue or odd note.
John Szalay wrote on 1/5/2015 5:15 PM:
I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. its a minor issue and easy to get around., however .INI files ( config file) have security levels raised to prevent users from editing it, again by OS level changes. this too is a minor issue, I just modify the permissions to allow it. The odd thing, apparently after Win7 and now Win10TP , running the program creates a hidden folder and a series of sub folders titled C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Progr am Files not a problem , however IF you need to modify the program or upgrade the system created folder prevents the new version from running and errors out. deleting the hidden folder and rebooting the the computer allows a new set of the virtualstore folders to be created and all is fine again. Did not see this issue with earlier version of Windows.. NOT a compliant just observations of the differences. isn,t that what running the tech preveiw is all about ? any thoughts welcomed... I may not be 100% correct, but I have a few programs that save in the virtualstore folder. One is a password database program. I always thought the file in the C:\program files (x86)\programname folder was where and what I needed to back up. I have a batch file that puts a few strategic files on a thumb on demand. After a crash I restored the OS and that program and data file and found a lot of passwords missing. OMG! After some research I found it there in virtualstore, along with others. Google that folder and you'll get lots of results. I think it has to do with your permission issue you had. The system mirrors or writes to that virtualstore folder since it's in your home and you should be able to write to it all the time. IIRC the OS also puts copies in the PF folder now and then just to confuse you. (cruel and unusual punishment for me). I take it that MS does not want you to write in C:\program* folders. I also have issues with some portable/non-installed software. I actual made a special folder like others have commented about and put all those portable items there, but only the portable ones. Makes it easy to backup/restore too. Sysinternal's AutoRuns is a good one. |
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another issue or odd note.
John Szalay wrote on 1/5/2015 5:15 PM:
I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. its a minor issue and easy to get around., however .INI files ( config file) have security levels raised to prevent users from editing it, again by OS level changes. this too is a minor issue, I just modify the permissions to allow it. The odd thing, apparently after Win7 and now Win10TP , running the program creates a hidden folder and a series of sub folders titled C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Local\VirtualStore\Progr am Files not a problem , however IF you need to modify the program or upgrade the system created folder prevents the new version from running and errors out. deleting the hidden folder and rebooting the the computer allows a new set of the virtualstore folders to be created and all is fine again. Did not see this issue with earlier version of Windows.. NOT a compliant just observations of the differences. isn,t that what running the tech preveiw is all about ? any thoughts welcomed... I may not be 100% correct, but I have a few programs that save in the virtualstore folder. One is a password database program. I always thought the file in the C:\program files (x86)\programname folder was where and what I needed to back up. I have a batch file that puts a few strategic files on a thumb on demand. After a crash I restored the OS and that program and data file and found a lot of passwords missing. OMG! After some research I found it there in virtualstore, along with others. Google that folder and you'll get lots of results. I think it has to do with your permission issue you had. The system mirrors or writes to that virtualstore folder since it's in your home and you should be able to write to it all the time. IIRC the OS also puts copies in the PF folder now and then just to confuse you. (cruel and unusual punishment for me). I take it that MS does not want you to write in C:\program* folders. I also have issues with some portable/non-installed software. I actual made a special folder like others have commented about and put all those portable items there, but only the portable ones. Makes it easy to backup/restore too. Sysinternal's AutoRuns is a good one. |
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:08:24 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:15:35 -0600, John Szalay john.szalay.at.att.net wrote: I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. snip any thoughts welcomed... Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it I agree with that recommendation. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:08:24 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:
On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:15:35 -0600, John Szalay john.szalay.at.att.net wrote: I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. snip any thoughts welcomed... Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it I agree with that recommendation. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:08:24 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:15:35 -0600, John Szalay john.szalay.at.att.net wrote: I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. snip any thoughts welcomed... Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it I agree with that recommendation. Yes. That sounds like a good plan and one that I hadn't thought of. I'm seeing a few weird things in W10, and, because I'm also trying out one of these WinBoot 8.1 tablets with only a 32GB C: drive, am very concerned at anything that gets written into the Users directories. A thought-provoking thread! -- Bill |
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In message , Gene E. Bloch
writes On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:08:24 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:15:35 -0600, John Szalay john.szalay.at.att.net wrote: I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. snip any thoughts welcomed... Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it I agree with that recommendation. Yes. That sounds like a good plan and one that I hadn't thought of. I'm seeing a few weird things in W10, and, because I'm also trying out one of these WinBoot 8.1 tablets with only a 32GB C: drive, am very concerned at anything that gets written into the Users directories. A thought-provoking thread! -- Bill |
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:29:34 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:08:24 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:15:35 -0600, John Szalay john.szalay.at.att.net wrote: I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. snip any thoughts welcomed... Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it I agree with that recommendation. I had you in mind when I wrote that. :-) -- Char Jackson |
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On Mon, 5 Jan 2015 16:29:34 -0800, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 17:08:24 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Mon, 05 Jan 2015 16:15:35 -0600, John Szalay john.szalay.at.att.net wrote: I use a sat tracking program that as written, is installed in the /program files/ folder, and apparently with the increased OS security , unable to download TLE files directly into the proper folder UNLESS there is an older file by the same name is already copied there. snip any thoughts welcomed... Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it I agree with that recommendation. I had you in mind when I wrote that. :-) -- Char Jackson |
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Char Jackson wrote in
: Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it Interesting, will attempt and see what develops. |
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another issue or odd note.
Char Jackson wrote in
: Maybe you'd be better off installing the program to a *new* folder that resides alongside the default Program Files folder. I think that would get around the limitations that you're seeing. There might be some slight security implications, but nothing serious that I can see. C:\Program Files C:\Program Files (x86) C:\Program Files (Other) -- create something like this and install to it Interesting, will attempt and see what develops. |
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Big_Al wrote in :
I take it that MS does not want you to write in C:\program* folders. Absolutely.. formed that opinion when right away... |
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another issue or odd note.
Big_Al wrote in :
I take it that MS does not want you to write in C:\program* folders. Absolutely.. formed that opinion when right away... |
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