MSoft Publisher to Word?

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 03:14:42 -0400, Big Al
wrote:

On 08/09/2018 10:59 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter

Could you simply Cntl-A Cntl-C and then into word Cntl-V
Select all, Copy then Paste into word? I've never tried it but I do a
lot of copy paste from recipes on web pages and paste into word to
reformat.

No, the 'paste' gives rubbish.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 11:09:45 +0100, Philip Herlihy
wrote:

In article ,
says...

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter

Just checked in Publisher 2013 - you can't. There is an option buried
under Export / Change File Type / Other File Type ..
.. to save as Word, but it exports only text, it seems. Nor does Word
2013 have an import capability for .pub files. (Odd that Microsoft
don't provide this interchange.)

I certainly get why you'd want to use Publisher to lay out what is more
of a "graphic design" than a "document", but if the end result has to be
Word because that's what the "client" requires, then why not bite the
bullet and create the labels in Word? There won't be much you can do to
a label in Publisher that you can't do in Word.

Of course, they may demand Word because they don't realise how to use
PDF files (or maybe just images) in whatever context they are operating
- or maybe they expect to make their own edits, and Word is all they
have?

I do supply the pdf file too.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:00:53 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 10/08/2018 17:52, GS wrote:


So then.., why not just design for those people in MS Word???

Because he's not as intelligent as you are; His IQ is 19; your IQ is
20; There's a marginal difference and so you have marginal advantage
over him.

Lest the blind lead the blind, I point out that
Publisher has a better "table" formation, and
allows greater flexibility in moving pictures
around the cells. Better Text Box too.

MSWord cannot seem to form a 4-cell table where
the margins go to the ends of the sheet, but
Publisher does.

My customers are all out to save money on label
printing for their short-run deliveries. These
labels are of thin PET "laser" stock (A4) lanced
to 16/8/4/2 per A4 sheet, and work well in color
laser printers. They do not wrinkle in damp
weather.

Commercial printing companies want runs of 500 or
more, and this is impossible with hundreds of
label types. With the above system the customer
is burdened with stock of but one A4 sheet.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 00:13:13 -0400, Paul
wrote:

Peter Jason wrote:
Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft
Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept
only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft
Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just
one step?

Peter


I don't think the options suggested here are all that good.

https://www.lifewire.com/open-pub-fi...lisher-1074669

Maybe you're already making the best of a bad situation.

I fear so. When altering brochures and data
sheets off the Internet, I'm reduced to converting
those PDF downloads to MS Word, making the
alterations to these, and then converting back to
PDF.


*******

According to this, Publisher competes with
Adobe InDesign and QuarkXPress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Publisher

LibreOffice can open your .pub file, but then what ?
Can you save it as a .odt ? The very first thing
to check for, when opening it in LibreOffice, is
seeing whether it opens in Writer or Draw. If it
opens in Writer, you're laughing. If it opens in
Draw, you're basically screwed (in terms of your
mission to change "domains").

Publisher is a page layout tool, not a word processor.

All these programs are living in their own
siloed world. Even if an interchange format exists,
that doesn't mean any other tool has to "respect it"
and do the right thing with it. LibreOffice is the
poster boy for this. You'll see many claims "oh yeah,
LO can open this for you", but when you see what
it's done to it, you'll gag. That's how this stuff
normally works.

Paul

In article , Peter Jason
wrote:

Maybe you're already making the best of a bad situation.

I fear so. When altering brochures and data
sheets off the Internet, I'm reduced to converting
those PDF downloads to MS Word, making the
alterations to these, and then converting back to
PDF.

you're making a bad situation into a horrible one.

skip the two conversions and make the alterations directly in pdf.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:08:22 -0000 (UTC),
dave61430 wrote:

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 12:59:59 +1000, Peter Jason wrote:

Sometimes I design labels for people, using MSoft Publisher.

But they know only MSoft Word, and will accept only this.

I convert the label into PDF and then into MSoft Word.

How can I convert from Publisher to Word in just one step?

Peter

I believe the .pdf stands for portable document format. It is primarily
designed to do exactly what you are attempting, namely permit a user to
open a document without regard to how it was originally generated. You
need to tell us why the recipient is unable to simply use the .pdf file.
In my experience, applications that purport to be able to import .pdf
files for further editing are iffy at best.

Because the customer does not want to learn PDF
formatting and alteration.

EG, have you tried to simply convert a PDF page of
dense text into two columns? Nobody knows how!
Yet MS Word does it in a two steps.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 19:45:05 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Peter Jason
wrote:

Maybe you're already making the best of a bad situation.

I fear so. When altering brochures and data
sheets off the Internet, I'm reduced to converting
those PDF downloads to MS Word, making the
alterations to these, and then converting back to
PDF.

you're making a bad situation into a horrible one.

skip the two conversions and make the alterations directly in pdf.

"m learnig slowly how to do this, but it's a whole
new system.

In article , Peter Jason
wrote:

Maybe you're already making the best of a bad situation.

I fear so. When altering brochures and data
sheets off the Internet, I'm reduced to converting
those PDF downloads to MS Word, making the
alterations to these, and then converting back to
PDF.

you're making a bad situation into a horrible one.

skip the two conversions and make the alterations directly in pdf.

"m learnig slowly how to do this, but it's a whole
new system.

not really.

In article , Peter Jason
wrote:


Because the customer does not want to learn PDF
formatting and alteration.

EG, have you tried to simply convert a PDF page of
dense text into two columns? Nobody knows how!
Yet MS Word does it in a two steps.

use the proper tools and it's no steps. the computer does it for you.

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:00:53 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 10/08/2018 17:52, GS wrote:


So then.., why not just design for those people in MS Word???

Because he's not as intelligent as you are; His IQ is 19; your IQ is
20; There's a marginal difference and so you have marginal advantage
over him.

Lest the blind lead the blind, I point out that
Publisher has a better "table" formation, and
allows greater flexibility in moving pictures
around the cells. Better Text Box too.

MSWord cannot seem to form a 4-cell table where
the margins go to the ends of the sheet, but
Publisher does.

My customers are all out to save money on label
printing for their short-run deliveries. These
labels are of thin PET "laser" stock (A4) lanced
to 16/8/4/2 per A4 sheet, and work well in color
laser printers. They do not wrinkle in damp
weather.

Commercial printing companies want runs of 500 or
more, and this is impossible with hundreds of
label types. With the above system the customer
is burdened with stock of but one A4 sheet.

My preference is to use MS Excel or LO Calc. Excel has more granular control
positioning images/shapes/objects than Calc does, but both offer superior
'table' layouts over the other components of MSO/LO hands down!

Note that anything you do in either spreadsheet app can easily be dropped into
their respective word processing counterpart without loss of quality or content
by either linking or embedding.

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On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:25:38 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

Sometimes people need to be educated. Word is not the right tool
and they should be told as much.

+1

I bet that goes down well!

On 2018-08-11 06:57, GS wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 21:00:53 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 10/08/2018 17:52, GS wrote:


So then.., why not just design for those people in MS Word???

Because he's not as intelligent as you are;* His IQ is 19; your IQ is
20;* There's a marginal difference and so you have marginal advantage
over him.

Lest the blind lead the blind, I point out that
Publisher has a better "table" formation, and
allows greater flexibility in moving pictures
around the cells.* Better Text Box too.

MSWord cannot seem to form a 4-cell table where
the margins go to the ends of the sheet, but
Publisher does.

My customers are all out to save money on label
printing for their short-run deliveries.* These
labels are of thin PET "laser" stock (A4) lanced
to 16/8/4/2 per A4 sheet, and work well in color
laser printers.* They do not wrinkle in damp
weather.

Commercial printing companies want runs of 500 or
more, and this is impossible with hundreds of
label types.** With the above system the customer
is burdened with stock of but one A4 sheet.

My preference is to use MS Excel or LO Calc. Excel has more granular
control positioning images/shapes/objects than Calc does, but both offer
superior 'table' layouts over the other components of MSO/LO hands down!

Note that anything you do in either spreadsheet app can easily be dropped
into their respective word processing counterpart without loss of quality
or content by either linking or embedding.


Try this:

https://www.avery.com/software/partners/microsoft-word

Good luck,

I've been using Avery's label products/software for about 20 years. Awesome
stuff for available label templates.

I do custom labels design more than standard, mostly on clear full-size sheets
which get cut out using a plotter since they are usually irregular shape. Using
a spreadsheet configured like graph paper makes designing very easy; -
embedding the design in a word processor is just for client convenience for
their own printing. I can print or plot up to tabloid size paper; - printer has
pass-thru capability (HP7610).

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Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-08-11 07:22, mechanic wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:25:38 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

Sometimes people need to be educated. Word is not the right tool
and they should be told as much.

Above opinion by R Wieser IIRC. Noit me!

+1 I bet that goes down well!


Depends on how you tell them. "You ought to do it this way" doesn't
work, obviously. "Here's another way of doing what you want, may be
easier for you" usually does.

Try Opening the file with the free LibreOffice.
It worked for me.

Jim

Jim Dell wrote:
Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-08-11 07:22, mechanic wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 09:25:38 -0400, Wolf K wrote:

Sometimes people need to be educated. Word is not the right tool
and they should be told as much.

Above opinion by R Wieser IIRC. Noit me!

+1 I bet that goes down well!


Depends on how you tell them. "You ought to do it this way" doesn't
work, obviously. "Here's another way of doing what you want, may be
easier for you" usually does.

Try Opening the file with the free LibreOffice.
It worked for me.

Jim

There is a sample Publisher file here.

https://cdn.online-convert.com/examp...ub/example.pub

Pull it into your copy of LibreOffice and
tell us what you think. Is it preserving
the look and feel ? Can you do anything
useful in there ?

I've tried it here.

Paul

On 11/08/2018 21:50, GS wrote:


I've been using Avery's label products/software for about 20 years. .


Well in that case there is something wrong with you. Nobody uses labels
these days unless you are working for Amazon. In which case you should have
your own system and bespoke printed labels to use on parcels.

If you are still writing letters then you should be using window envelopes.
what the **** do you use labels for? Mind boggles. Why can't you be
professionals like us where all communication is via Windows 10 system.

.

You should be less narrow-minded (and ill-mannered)! If you can't be helpful
then don't bother to post!

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