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Old April 22nd 04, 02:03 PM
marcus
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Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous




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  #2  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:04 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available, and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook, but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






  #3  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:06 PM
Marcus
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.

  #4  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:14 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



  #5  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:14 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



  #6  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:18 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



  #7  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:20 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



  #8  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:22 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



  #9  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:22 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



  #10  
Old April 22nd 04, 02:46 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



  #11  
Old April 22nd 04, 05:58 PM
CHRIS CRIBBS
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install, but

I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the rest

of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV 2002
works better with a specified or static IP address, but

I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling Northon

AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30 PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch directory

and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause OE

to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read the

KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere on

my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB), then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to start

up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help. Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



  #12  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:37 PM
Marcus
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.

  #13  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:37 PM
Marcus
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


Message was edited by: Anonymous






.



.

  #14  
Old April 23rd 04, 01:37 PM
Marcus
external usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default XP SP1 slow to start up

OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


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Old April 23rd 04, 01:37 PM
Marcus
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Default XP SP1 slow to start up

OK... Last night I have now done the following, and start
up is still slow!!! Arghh!
- Upgraded real player,
- disabled the remote services mentioned above,
- deleted the windows prefetch files, and also
- uninstalled the scanner driver and reinstalled.
Again... Task Manager shows nothing. When NAV and the
scanner kicks on right before I connect, I notice compaq-
rba and LUCOMs~1 start up, but these tasks should be fine
from what I've read.
-----Original Message-----
I have all 3 disabled and I am experiencing no problems

at all.

Chris

"Marcus" wrote in

message
...
Aren't these services reqired? Especially the Remote
Access ones?

Marcus
-----Original Message-----
I had same problem when I first logged in. I fixed mine

this way

1) From run in the start menu type and run msconfig
2)Under the services tab disable :
a) Remote Access Auto Connection Manager
b) Remote Access Conection Manager
c) Remote Desktop Help Session Manager
3) Click Apply and then ok
4) Restart and you should be running fine


"marcus" wrote in

message
...
Below is a string from a Comcast chat session

concerning
the problems I am having. As of right now I am

thinking I
need to unistall my scanner drivers and re-install,

but
I
don't know what else to do....

Anyone here have any solutions???

Marcus

***********************
Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Looking for some help here. Recently my compaq

presario
6031 became very slow to start up after logging in.
Basically I log in, Northon AV comes up disabled, and
everything sits there for 3-4 mintues, then the

scarnner
starts up, Northon AV becomes enabled, and I am

online.
Task manager shows nothing eating CPU useage.

First I used system restore to a former point. This

worked
for a couple reboots, then it was back.

Then I thought it was because of Compaq's easy key
application taking up 99% of the CPU, which was

supposed
to be fixed in SP1, but apparently didn't work, so I

just
unistalled the whole easy key application. This

didn't
work. So I downloaded every windows update available,

and
this didn't work either.

I then uninstalled other applications that launch

during
start up, which I don't need, and this didn't help.

I think played with msconfig and eliminated apps not
necessary from start up list. This didn't help.

I think dowloaded Spybot, and cleaned things up

there. I
then downloaded another HijackThis to clean up the

rest
of
the registry. Still didn't work.

I also noticed that sometimes WIA and scanner drivers

can
cause slow start up, so I unchecked WIA and and plug

N
play services to verify this wasn't a problem, but it
still started up slow.

I am now stuck and don't know what else to do.

I noticed postings on sites stating that Northon AV

2002
works better with a specified or static IP address,

but
I
don't know if this will work with Comcast's DHCP

server.

I also thought about uninstalling/reinstalling

Northon
AV,
the canon canoscan sw, and the nikon sw, but I'm not

sure
this will help either.

Any thoughts?



Me XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004 3:30

PM

Posts: 1,693 From: fed up with recurring red

dots....
Registered: Jul 10, 2003
Reply

Commom problem with Norton A/V 2003 or earlier...

Symantec KB Document ID:2003100708212113
Last Modified:04/01/2004



JohnD XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 20, 2004

9:36
PM

Posts: 860 From: Elk Grove Vil, IL
Registered: Jun 30, 2003
Reply

I have NAV 2002 connecting with a standard dynamic
assigned IP address and am not experiencing your

problem.
Here are a couple of thoughts.

1. I noticed initializing USB devices can add a

little
time to boot-up.

2. I assume you are using Windows XP. (Let us know if

you
have the "Pro" version.) You could try deleting
the "prefetch" files in the Windows\Prefetch

directory
and
see if that might help. They will be automatically
recreated if needed.

3. You mentioned you are online when you boot up. Do

you
have Outlook Express loading when you boot up? If you
disabled Windows Messenger (this is not the Messenger
Service which you dont want running), this can cause

OE
to
load very slowly.



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:21 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Thanks for the suggestion, I had high hopes. I read

the
KB
note from Symantec, and it said to replace a

ccEvtMgr.exe
file, but apparently I don't have this file anywhere

on
my
PC, so this didn't help.

Also, I disabled Northon in msconfig in services and
startup, but this didn't seem to solve the slow

start up
issue either, so I am wondering if it is even Norton
related now.



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:25 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

See this
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=819634



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:26 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

John D,

When I do actually boot up, I am not connected to the
internet. It waits until everything has started up to
actually connect. Usually 3-4 minutes. I know it has
connected when I hear my scanner boot up (on USB),

then
Norton becomes enabled, and I am connected.

XP Pro confirmed. I can try the prefetch idea...

Don't use outlook express at all. Use office Outlook,

but
it does not start up until launched.

Also, went into Win Messenger and told it not to

start
up
automatically, but this did nothing either.

I'll try the prefetch idea, but I am now wondering

if I
should uninstall the scanner drivers and try that as

well.

Marcus



CajunTek XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21, 2004
11:34 AM

Posts: 1,624 From: Arlington Texas
Registered: Oct 7, 2003
Reply

Did you look at the link I provided.. Others with

NAV or
NIS are having this problem...



Anonymous XP SP1 slow to start up Apr 21,

2004
11:35 AM

Posts: 4 Registered: Apr 20, 2004
Reply

Cajun Tek,
Read the article and I can try win update again, but

when
I started this troubleshooting late last week, I

went to
windows update, and updated everything listed, even

that I
didn't really need.

Also, if NAV and this security patch were the

problem,
then when I removed NAV from start up and told the

service
not to start thru msconfig, it still didn't help.

Does
this prove that NAV is not the problem? I don't know.

Marcus


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