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Windows Update taking a long time
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 17:14:23 -0400, Paul wrote:
And the indicators are, when the new patch delivery scheme comes in October or November, there will be yet another reason to turn it off. ... I don't see any humor in their "extended support" being treated like this, when it was supposed to last until 2020. I entered a contract with the company, for a service to be delivered in a certain way, until 2020. It would be like if the airline decided it was OK to strap me to the wing, instead of fly inside the cabin. Yes, I got to my destination, but my hair is a mess. Why is my Windows 7 being strapped to the wing ? There was that woman in California who collected $10 K from Microsoft for foisting Windows 10 on her. I still think there's material there for a class-action suit, and Microsoft's bad faith on support may provoke yet another. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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Stan Brown wrote:
There was that woman in California who collected $10 K from Microsoft for foisting Windows 10 on her. I still think there's material there for a class-action suit, and Microsoft's bad faith on support may provoke yet another. Yes, MSFT chose not appeal the small claims decision to avoid additional legal expenses. Also some unknowns not raised in the small claims hearing, the justification for the award was based on the supposed 'forced upgrade' as reported by the media from court records and subsequent loss to a business. The upgrade occurred in August 2015 - in Aug 2015 the only way to have upgraded a 7/8x device to Win10 was to have reserved in advance or manually initiated the installation both via the GWX app or upgraded using downloaded media or upgraded via the online option. All of which required user input - no automatic route without user acceptance existed at that time. From the public end it did prove that MSFT can be taken to small claims court(not class action precedent) with success. From MSFT's end, not appealing and moving to a higher court, effectively prevented the possibility of court ordered requests for the under-the-hood methodology in place at that point in time...and not having to do so in an appeal in higher court(i.e. not small claims) may well have been worth more than the 10K judgement. Other class actions - good luck with that thought. -- ...winston msft mvp windows experience 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016 |
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Windows Update taking a long time
On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 13:53:07 -0400
". . .winston" wrote: Other class actions - good luck with that thought. The regurgitator always talks down to others. For a backwoods racist hack you are no better than others..get off your ****ing high horse. Even GM had enough of you and forced you out. Pure spit bucket liquid you are. Show your total lack of tech skills and answer some of the tech questions your racist ****ing hack. |
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Windows Update taking a long time
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? Hi, I read several posts on this subject, downloaded several suggested items,and the problem is unchanged in Windows 7 Pro 64 bit It still takes several hours to download a few updates that used to take just a few minutes. I am not one to enter my laptop's registry or do extensive things. Is there a simple way to solve this problem? Thanks, Mort Linder |
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Mort wrote:
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? Hi, I read several posts on this subject, downloaded several suggested items,and the problem is unchanged in Windows 7 Pro 64 bit It still takes several hours to download a few updates that used to take just a few minutes. I am not one to enter my laptop's registry or do extensive things. Is there a simple way to solve this problem? Thanks, Mort Linder So what suggested items have you downloaded so far ? A Servicing Stack ? A Cumulative Update for a particular month in 2016 ? The recipe changes as time goes by, as update numbers get changed when Microsoft re-launches a patch, and so on. As for the "Is there a simple way", the answer is No. Microsoft makes a Windows Update troubleshooter, but that's not where the problem is. They could easily spend time making a troubleshooter that checks what updates you've installed and recommends something, but then, that's what Windows Update is supposed to do, right ? And you can see how well that turned out. ******* If you want a foolproof way to do updates, the procedure is totally manual, but it will get the job done. If you have 170 updates to do, you'd be *nuts* to do it this way. This tool lists your outstanding security updates. It doesn't list the optional ones, so it amounts to being only half of Windows Update. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=7558 When a KB is listed in a scan done by that tool, you download it using Internet Explorer (not even Microsoft Edge works, only IE works), and install it manually from the folder the patch is stored in. You put the KB number on the end of the link (entered into IE), and add the desired items to your basket. You can continue opening web pages and using a different KB number on each search link, and add the item to your basket. When you "check out", the entire shopping basket of updates is downloaded in a single download session (and you can walk away until it is done). This web page uses an ActiveX plugin, which is why only Internet Explorer will work. http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3125574 It's a slow way to do it, but it does not rely on Windows Update infrastructure nearly as much. ******* If you want to "repair the automation", which is what some of the suggested updates are for, well, good luck with that :-) For "luck" is what you need. Paul |
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On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 15:11:50 -0400, Mort wrote:
I read several posts on this subject, downloaded several suggested items, You do recognize that that kind of trouble report leads nowhere, right? Tell us _what_ you downloaded, and what happened (with _exact_ error messages), and you'll probably get helpful responses from people far more qualified than I. But don't ask us to gaze into a crystal ball and guess what you did and what happened. (I have to put up with that in my day job, and I'm not allowed to point out the absurdity. Here, I can -- not in a spirit of meanness, but hoping that everyone will learn to make better trouble reports.) I am not one to enter my laptop's registry or do extensive things. Is there a simple way to solve this problem? :-) -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://BrownMath.com/ http://OakRoadSystems.com/ Shikata ga nai... |
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Paul wrote:
Mort wrote: Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: What's the most likely cause, other than the Windows 10 promotion? Hi, I read several posts on this subject, downloaded several suggested items,and the problem is unchanged in Windows 7 Pro 64 bit It still takes several hours to download a few updates that used to take just a few minutes. I am not one to enter my laptop's registry or do extensive things. Is there a simple way to solve this problem? Thanks, Mort Linder So what suggested items have you downloaded so far ? I downloaded two suggested items from Windows. I finally gave in, and set my PC to do automatic Windows updates, instead of manually. Now, they all come in rapidly, even when my laptop is turned off. I did not prefer the automatic downloads, but in the end felt that I had no other choice. Thanks again to all for their help and advice. Mort Linder A Servicing Stack ? A Cumulative Update for a particular month in 2016 ? The recipe changes as time goes by, as update numbers get changed when Microsoft re-launches a patch, and so on. As for the "Is there a simple way", the answer is No. Microsoft makes a Windows Update troubleshooter, but that's not where the problem is. They could easily spend time making a troubleshooter that checks what updates you've installed and recommends something, but then, that's what Windows Update is supposed to do, right ? And you can see how well that turned out. ******* If you want a foolproof way to do updates, the procedure is totally manual, but it will get the job done. If you have 170 updates to do, you'd be *nuts* to do it this way. This tool lists your outstanding security updates. It doesn't list the optional ones, so it amounts to being only half of Windows Update. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl...s.aspx?id=7558 When a KB is listed in a scan done by that tool, you download it using Internet Explorer (not even Microsoft Edge works, only IE works), and install it manually from the folder the patch is stored in. You put the KB number on the end of the link (entered into IE), and add the desired items to your basket. You can continue opening web pages and using a different KB number on each search link, and add the item to your basket. When you "check out", the entire shopping basket of updates is downloaded in a single download session (and you can walk away until it is done). This web page uses an ActiveX plugin, which is why only Internet Explorer will work. http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...aspx?q=3125574 It's a slow way to do it, but it does not rely on Windows Update infrastructure nearly as much. ******* If you want to "repair the automation", which is what some of the suggested updates are for, well, good luck with that :-) For "luck" is what you need. Paul |
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