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Old October 12th 16, 09:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mort[_7_]
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Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoad Windows7 updates

Hi,

I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek
shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical
concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same
work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the
transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On
the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However,

1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given,
80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied".

2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a
"fatal error".

Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as
administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done.

Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework
and then download the updates to Windows 7?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mort Linder
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  #2  
Old October 12th 16, 10:12 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
GlowingBlueMist[_6_]
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Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates

On 10/12/2016 3:45 PM, Mort wrote:
Hi,

I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek
shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical
concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same
work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the
transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On
the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However,

1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given,
80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied".

2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a
"fatal error".

Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as
administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done.

Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework
and then download the updates to Windows 7?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mort Linder

Give this link a view for a relatively easy way to transfer your stuff
over to your new PC, when you get it back that is.
http://www.easeus.com/free-pc-transfer-software/
Mind you I have not used the program myself, mainly because I was just
made aware of it, but it sounds interesting.

As for installing the framework stuff and upgrades is to give WSUS a try.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../bb332157.aspx
It does take a little getting used to but instructions are on the same
web page. People here have answered questions on how to get it working
as well from time to time and it is still supported, so far.

You might want to try Start|Control Panel|Programs and Features|Turn
Windows features on or off and put a check on the Microsoft .NET
Framework 3.5.1 and follow the instructions to install that version.
The rest can actually be installed individually on the Microsoft web
site or thru the WSUS program.

  #3  
Old October 13th 16, 01:42 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul[_32_]
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Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates

Mort wrote:
Hi,

I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek
shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical
concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same
work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the
transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On
the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However,

1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given,
80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied".

2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a
"fatal error".

Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as
administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done.

Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework
and then download the updates to Windows 7?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mort Linder


You've now learned a new "best practices". It is:

*Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without
having a *complete* backup of the hard drive.

In other words, everything that's on the machines,
you should have a copy in hand. Macrium Reflect Free
can image hard drives for you, making compact single-file
archives per drive.

I've read horror stories *exactly* like your experience
on USENET. And that's where the Best Practice idea
comes from, is repeated experiences where computers
are ruined at a shop.

A typical Geek Squad accident, is taking a machine to have
a USB card added, and the idiots reformat the hard drive.
Because, like a production line, they're always reformatting
and reinstalling stuff, and they can easily walk over to
the wrong machine, and while in a daze, "start the Procedure".
And then your data is gone.

*******

There are various Windows Update Reset scripts.
But such scripts do not necessarily handle all
possible root causes.

This one is overkill. The "ResetWUEng.cmd" file inside
the ZIP, is a shell script. You can change the extension
temporarily to .txt and open in Notepad, just to marvel
at the amount of stuff in there.

https://gallery.technet.microsoft.co...ResetWUEng.zip

A bonus with that one, is a fair amount of emphasis
on permissions when doing operations. Personally,
I'd select a simpler looking one, for a first attempt.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ate-reset.html

"Reset_Reregister_Windows_Update_Components.ba t" [RRWUC.bat]

You would run that from an Administrator Command Prompt.
Your right-click menu has a "Run as Administrator" option
for when you run a Command Prompt window. You can
execute the batch file from there.

# An Admin window says "System32"

cd /d %userprofile% # This puts you in your home dir
cd Downloads # I assume you use a Downloads folder in Home
RRWUC.bat # Type in the long name above. This is shorthand.

That shouldn't take too long. With any luck,
you'll stop seeing errors, but the delay for
the Windows Update list to be painted,
could be quite long. Anywhere from 5 minutes
to 8 hours, due to the wuauserv issue.

*******

The BITS subsystem is used by Windows for downloads.

If you cannot download .NET using Windows Update, it
could be a BITS issue.

Downloading a file with the web browser should not
return a "fatal error". Hunt down the .NET updates
with a browser.

For example (do this in Internet Explorer *only*)

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...Windows+7+.NET
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...+Feature+Packs

The first returns 520 entries. Click the "Size" label on its column
twice, so that the largest files are at the top. You will
see some "Feature Pack" entries. I have no idea what you're
looking for. You can check the Programs and Features
control panel, and Windows Features, for more evidence
of .NET . You will see a tick box for .NET 3.5.1 in
there, which can be used to install or uninstall it.

To "verify" a version of .NET, use Stebner's nice
little applet.

netfx_setupverifier_new.zip

Aaron updates the file regularly and don't let the
date on the page bother you.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ast...l-users-guide/

Look for "netfx_setupverifier_new.zip" here. Use a modern browser.

https://onedrive.live.com/?id=27E6A3...E6A35D1A492AF7

There is usually one version of .NET that cannot
be easily dealt with, as it was in the OS when
the OS was installed. The table at the bottom
here indicates Windows 7 had "3.5" by default.
Windows Features makes "3.5.1" a tick-box installable.
Programs and Features, if you find an existing .NET
entry, you can try "Repair" rather than "Remove" from
the options. Then, if that doesn't work, look for
a download.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework

If .NET 3.0 is damaged on your machine, I don't
know what to tell you. Repair Install is an option,
but I don't know if a less-obnoxious option is
available to repair the built-in NET or not.
That's the problem with Microsoft making them
built-in, is repairing them.

*******

Downloading the Windows Update is *never* easy.

It's not just you having problems.

One of my sidelines, is kicking the tires on Windows Update,
over and over and over again... It's a constant
source of irritation.

*******

Whatever happened to your machine, is a "professional
level" mistake/accident. So you cannot expect the
normal bandaids we apply here, to help all that much.
Without knowing what that person thought they were
doing, it's pretty hard to guess how deep the damage is.

Paul
  #4  
Old October 13th 16, 03:45 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Stan Brown
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Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoad Windows 7 updates

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:42:51 -0400, Paul wrote:
Mort wrote:
[quoted text muted]

Thanks in advance,

Mort Linder


You've now learned a new "best practices". It is:

*Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without
having a *complete* backup of the hard drive.



You posted my thought before I did.

Unfortunately, most people have to learn the hard way about the
importance of complete backups. I sympathize with Mort, but don't
have anything helpful to offer.

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://BrownMath.com/
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...
  #5  
Old October 13th 16, 03:35 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mort[_7_]
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Posts: 30
Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates

Paul wrote:
Mort wrote:
Hi,

I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a
geek shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live
classical concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job
on this same work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they
not do the transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P
for repair. On the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However,

1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given,
80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied".

2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a
"fatal error".

Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as
administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done.

Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework
and then download the updates to Windows 7?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mort Linder


You've now learned a new "best practices". It is:

*Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without
having a *complete* backup of the hard drive.

In other words, everything that's on the machines,
you should have a copy in hand. Macrium Reflect Free
can image hard drives for you, making compact single-file
archives per drive.

I've read horror stories *exactly* like your experience
on USENET. And that's where the Best Practice idea
comes from, is repeated experiences where computers
are ruined at a shop.

A typical Geek Squad accident, is taking a machine to have
a USB card added, and the idiots reformat the hard drive.
Because, like a production line, they're always reformatting
and reinstalling stuff, and they can easily walk over to
the wrong machine, and while in a daze, "start the Procedure".
And then your data is gone.

*******

There are various Windows Update Reset scripts.
But such scripts do not necessarily handle all
possible root causes.

This one is overkill. The "ResetWUEng.cmd" file inside
the ZIP, is a shell script. You can change the extension
temporarily to .txt and open in Notepad, just to marvel
at the amount of stuff in there.

https://gallery.technet.microsoft.co...ResetWUEng.zip


A bonus with that one, is a fair amount of emphasis
on permissions when doing operations. Personally,
I'd select a simpler looking one, for a first attempt.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...ate-reset.html

"Reset_Reregister_Windows_Update_Components.ba t" [RRWUC.bat]

You would run that from an Administrator Command Prompt.
Your right-click menu has a "Run as Administrator" option
for when you run a Command Prompt window. You can
execute the batch file from there.

# An Admin window says "System32"

cd /d %userprofile% # This puts you in your home dir
cd Downloads # I assume you use a Downloads folder in Home
RRWUC.bat # Type in the long name above. This is shorthand.

That shouldn't take too long. With any luck,
you'll stop seeing errors, but the delay for
the Windows Update list to be painted,
could be quite long. Anywhere from 5 minutes
to 8 hours, due to the wuauserv issue.

*******

The BITS subsystem is used by Windows for downloads.

If you cannot download .NET using Windows Update, it
could be a BITS issue.

Downloading a file with the web browser should not
return a "fatal error". Hunt down the .NET updates
with a browser.

For example (do this in Internet Explorer *only*)

http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...Windows+7+.NET
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/...+Feature+Packs


The first returns 520 entries. Click the "Size" label on its column
twice, so that the largest files are at the top. You will
see some "Feature Pack" entries. I have no idea what you're
looking for. You can check the Programs and Features
control panel, and Windows Features, for more evidence
of .NET . You will see a tick box for .NET 3.5.1 in
there, which can be used to install or uninstall it.

To "verify" a version of .NET, use Stebner's nice
little applet.

netfx_setupverifier_new.zip

Aaron updates the file regularly and don't let the
date on the page bother you.

https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/ast...l-users-guide/


Look for "netfx_setupverifier_new.zip" here. Use a modern browser.

https://onedrive.live.com/?id=27E6A3...E6A35D1A492AF7

There is usually one version of .NET that cannot
be easily dealt with, as it was in the OS when
the OS was installed. The table at the bottom
here indicates Windows 7 had "3.5" by default.
Windows Features makes "3.5.1" a tick-box installable.
Programs and Features, if you find an existing .NET
entry, you can try "Repair" rather than "Remove" from
the options. Then, if that doesn't work, look for
a download.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.NET_Framework

If .NET 3.0 is damaged on your machine, I don't
know what to tell you. Repair Install is an option,
but I don't know if a less-obnoxious option is
available to repair the built-in NET or not.
That's the problem with Microsoft making them
built-in, is repairing them.

*******

Downloading the Windows Update is *never* easy.

It's not just you having problems.

One of my sidelines, is kicking the tires on Windows Update,
over and over and over again... It's a constant
source of irritation.

*******

Whatever happened to your machine, is a "professional
level" mistake/accident. So you cannot expect the
normal bandaids we apply here, to help all that much.
Without knowing what that person thought they were
doing, it's pretty hard to guess how deep the damage is.

Paul

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your insightful and helpful reply. I do have a full backup on
an external hard drive, but I do not dare give that to the Geek Squad
guys, after they struck out twice. I now think that my limited ability
to transfer data is far safer than these geek idiots, including copy and
paste from the external hard drive.

My only problem now, while awaiting my new laptop back from H-P, is that
my old laptop cannot download any Win 7 updates, due to the error(s)
induced by the Geeks. I will try a fix with your suggestions, and await
the return of my new laptop.

Thanks again,

Mort
  #6  
Old October 13th 16, 03:39 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mort[_7_]
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Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates

Dear Glowing,

Thanks for your helpful suggestions, which I shall tend to soon. I do
have a full backup of my old laptop on an external hard drive, but dare
not give it to those geeks, after they ruined 2 computers while
attempting a simple data transfer. It taught me a valuable lesson.

Mort

GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 10/12/2016 3:45 PM, Mort wrote:
Hi,

I brought a new Windows 10 laptop and an old Windows 7 laptop to a geek
shop, for a simple data transfer including my precious live classical
concerts and photos. (Two years ago, they did a great job on this same
work, which is why I went back there.)Not only did they not do the
transfer, they ruined the new PC, which they sent to H-P for repair. On
the old one, fortunately my data are intact. However,

1)Windows 7 updates do not download, with 3 error messages given,
80070005, 66A, 529, including "access denied".

2) ".NET framework" is absent, and trying to download it leads to a
"fatal error".

Nothing that I gleaned from the net is helpful. I am signed on as
administrator, scans with antivirus and antispyware were done.

Is there a relatively simple way that I can install the .NET framework
and then download the updates to Windows 7?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Mort Linder

Give this link a view for a relatively easy way to transfer your stuff
over to your new PC, when you get it back that is.
http://www.easeus.com/free-pc-transfer-software/
Mind you I have not used the program myself, mainly because I was just
made aware of it, but it sounds interesting.

As for installing the framework stuff and upgrades is to give WSUS a try.
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/.../bb332157.aspx
It does take a little getting used to but instructions are on the same
web page. People here have answered questions on how to get it working
as well from time to time and it is still supported, so far.

You might want to try Start|Control Panel|Programs and Features|Turn
Windows features on or off and put a check on the Microsoft .NET
Framework 3.5.1 and follow the instructions to install that version. The
rest can actually be installed individually on the Microsoft web site or
thru the WSUS program.


  #7  
Old October 13th 16, 03:42 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Ken Blake[_5_]
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Posts: 2,221
Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoad Windows 7 updates

On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:42:51 -0400, Paul
wrote:

*Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without
having a *complete* backup of the hard drive.



My recommendation is stronger than yours:

*Never* take a computer to the Geek Squad. Period.

  #8  
Old October 13th 16, 03:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mort[_7_]
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Posts: 30
Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates

Hi Stan,

I neglected to mention that I DO have a complete backup on an external
hard drive. However, I dare not give it to those geeks after they ruined
2 laptops in a simple data transfer attempt. The ironic thing is that 2
years ago they did an excellent data transfer job for me. I shall
attempt to copy and paste the needed info from my backup to my
laptops,and hope for the best. At least, my precious live classical
music concerts and my thousands of edited photos are intact.

Thanks for your reply, which I do appreciate.

Mort



Stan Brown wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:42:51 -0400, Paul wrote:
Mort wrote:
[quoted text muted]

Thanks in advance,

Mort Linder


You've now learned a new "best practices". It is:

*Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without
having a *complete* backup of the hard drive.



You posted my thought before I did.

Unfortunately, most people have to learn the hard way about the
importance of complete backups. I sympathize with Mort, but don't
have anything helpful to offer.


  #9  
Old October 13th 16, 06:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mort[_7_]
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Posts: 30
Default Problem with downloading .NET framework and unabe to downoadWindows 7 updates

Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 20:42:51 -0400, Paul
wrote:

*Never* take a computer to a Geek Squad, without
having a *complete* backup of the hard drive.



My recommendation is stronger than yours:

*Never* take a computer to the Geek Squad. Period.



Thank you. I found that out the hard way, and will NEVER again do that.
I was fooled by their efficient data transfer 2 years ago, but that was
with a different crew.

Mort
 




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