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Old February 27th 14, 08:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Linea Recta[_2_]
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hi, I'm in the process of moving from xp to windows 7.
Now, I was stupified to learn that there is no e-mail utility at all, not
even a primitive one.
Why do MS make life so hard?
Outlook Express was great in windows XP.
Then we got Vista with "windows mail" which was worse...
And now there is no e-mail function at all, not even a primitive one, in
this so called improved modern OS?
What e-mail clients can be used on Windows 7? I suppose OE not...
I want to use my imap accounts on my provider.

I have tried Thunderbird (some time ago on Vista) and didn't like it cause
it was big, clumsy and slow.

Thanks for any advice.



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Old February 27th 14, 08:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
BillW50
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On 2/27/2014 1:10 PM, Linea Recta wrote:
hi, I'm in the process of moving from xp to windows 7.
Now, I was stupified to learn that there is no e-mail utility at all,
not even a primitive one.
Why do MS make life so hard?
Outlook Express was great in windows XP.
Then we got Vista with "windows mail" which was worse...
And now there is no e-mail function at all, not even a primitive one, in
this so called improved modern OS?
What e-mail clients can be used on Windows 7? I suppose OE not...
I want to use my imap accounts on my provider.

I have tried Thunderbird (some time ago on Vista) and didn't like it
cause it was big, clumsy and slow.

Thanks for any advice.


Windows Mail has been replaced with Windows Live Mail, which is a free
download. Careful though, later versions are worse then earlier
versions. I like WLM 2009 the best myself. Not as good as OE6 though.

Thunderbird? Yes, Netscape (now reborn as Mozilla) always employed the
worst programmers on the planet. They couldn't program their way of a
wet paper bag if they tried.

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  #3  
Old February 27th 14, 09:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 2/27/14 12:30 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/27/2014 1:10 PM, Linea Recta wrote:
hi, I'm in the process of moving from xp to windows 7.
Now, I was stupified to learn that there is no e-mail utility at all,
not even a primitive one.
Why do MS make life so hard?
Outlook Express was great in windows XP.
Then we got Vista with "windows mail" which was worse...
And now there is no e-mail function at all, not even a primitive one, in
this so called improved modern OS?
What e-mail clients can be used on Windows 7? I suppose OE not...
I want to use my imap accounts on my provider.

I have tried Thunderbird (some time ago on Vista) and didn't like it
cause it was big, clumsy and slow.

Thanks for any advice.


Windows Mail has been replaced with Windows Live Mail, which is a free
download. Careful though, later versions are worse then earlier
versions. I like WLM 2009 the best myself. Not as good as OE6 though.


And, as I understand it, WLM is web based, it's not a client like OE6 was.

Likewise, would not recommend it.

Thunderbird? Yes, Netscape (now reborn as Mozilla) always employed the
worst programmers on the planet. They couldn't program their way of a
wet paper bag if they tried.


This is posted with Thunderbird, but I'm about to switch back to
Outlook. Just have to decide to spend the money.


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  #4  
Old February 27th 14, 09:19 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Linea Recta[_2_]
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"Ken Springer" schreef in bericht
...
On 2/27/14 12:30 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/27/2014 1:10 PM, Linea Recta wrote:
hi, I'm in the process of moving from xp to windows 7.
Now, I was stupified to learn that there is no e-mail utility at all,
not even a primitive one.
Why do MS make life so hard?
Outlook Express was great in windows XP.
Then we got Vista with "windows mail" which was worse...
And now there is no e-mail function at all, not even a primitive one, in
this so called improved modern OS?
What e-mail clients can be used on Windows 7? I suppose OE not...
I want to use my imap accounts on my provider.

I have tried Thunderbird (some time ago on Vista) and didn't like it
cause it was big, clumsy and slow.

Thanks for any advice.


Windows Mail has been replaced with Windows Live Mail, which is a free
download. Careful though, later versions are worse then earlier
versions. I like WLM 2009 the best myself. Not as good as OE6 though.


And, as I understand it, WLM is web based, it's not a client like OE6 was.

Likewise, would not recommend it.

Thunderbird? Yes, Netscape (now reborn as Mozilla) always employed the
worst programmers on the planet. They couldn't program their way of a
wet paper bag if they tried.


This is posted with Thunderbird, but I'm about to switch back to Outlook.
Just have to decide to spend the money.




.... and to abandon news groups?



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Old February 27th 14, 09:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 2/27/14 1:19 PM, Linea Recta wrote:
"Ken Springer" schreef in bericht
...
On 2/27/14 12:30 PM, BillW50 wrote:
On 2/27/2014 1:10 PM, Linea Recta wrote:
hi, I'm in the process of moving from xp to windows 7.
Now, I was stupified to learn that there is no e-mail utility at all,
not even a primitive one.
Why do MS make life so hard?
Outlook Express was great in windows XP.
Then we got Vista with "windows mail" which was worse...
And now there is no e-mail function at all, not even a primitive one, in
this so called improved modern OS?
What e-mail clients can be used on Windows 7? I suppose OE not...
I want to use my imap accounts on my provider.

I have tried Thunderbird (some time ago on Vista) and didn't like it
cause it was big, clumsy and slow.

Thanks for any advice.

Windows Mail has been replaced with Windows Live Mail, which is a free
download. Careful though, later versions are worse then earlier
versions. I like WLM 2009 the best myself. Not as good as OE6 though.


And, as I understand it, WLM is web based, it's not a client like OE6 was.

Likewise, would not recommend it.

Thunderbird? Yes, Netscape (now reborn as Mozilla) always employed the
worst programmers on the planet. They couldn't program their way of a
wet paper bag if they tried.


This is posted with Thunderbird, but I'm about to switch back to Outlook.
Just have to decide to spend the money.




... and to abandon news groups?


I'll switch to a dedicated newsgroup reader.


--
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Mac OS X 10.8.5
Firefox 24.0
Thunderbird 24.0
  #6  
Old February 27th 14, 09:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Have MS and GMail accounts.

So what is the best version of Outlook?

What is the best verion without the darn ribbon?


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Old February 27th 14, 10:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
George
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"Linea Recta" wrote in message
...
hi, I'm in the process of moving from xp to windows 7.
Now, I was stupified to learn that there is no e-mail utility at
all, not even a primitive one.
Why do MS make life so hard?
Outlook Express was great in windows XP.
Then we got Vista with "windows mail" which was worse...
And now there is no e-mail function at all, not even a primitive
one, in this so called improved modern OS?
What e-mail clients can be used on Windows 7? I suppose OE not...
I want to use my imap accounts on my provider.

I have tried Thunderbird (some time ago on Vista) and didn't like it
cause it was big, clumsy and slow.

Thanks for any advice.



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You might want to take a look at OE Classic:
http://www.oeclassic.com/

I haven't used it yet but it is supposed to be very similar to OE.

George


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Old February 27th 14, 11:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bob F[_2_]
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George wrote:
You might want to take a look at OE Classic:
http://www.oeclassic.com/

I haven't used it yet but it is supposed to be very similar to OE.


Minus message rules and other critical things.


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Old February 28th 14, 01:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 20:10:59 +0100, "Linea Recta"
wrote:

hi, I'm in the process of moving from xp to windows 7.
Now, I was stupified to learn that there is no e-mail utility at all, not
even a primitive one.
Why do MS make life so hard?



My view is completely different from yours. Yes, Windows XP came with
a built-in e-mail client. Yes, Windows 7 came without one.

But in my view, that's good, not bad. It's a step forward. With
Windows XP, many people used Outlook Express because that's what they
had and they didn't even realize they had a choice of many others.

Windows 7, on the other hand, doesn't insist on, or even suggest,
which e-mail client to use. It lets each user choose for himself which
he thinks is best--Microsoft products as well as many non-Microsoft
products. That's *great*. (But unfortunately, Windows 8 comes with
one, and in my view, that's a step backward.)


Outlook Express was great in windows XP.



That's your opinion. I'm not trying to tell you that you are wrong,
but I do want to point out that we don't all have the same opinions. I
didn't particularly like Outlook Express, and used it for only a short
time after I got XP.

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Old February 28th 14, 01:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:17:58 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

And, as I understand it, WLM is web based, it's not a client like OE6 was.



No, it's not web-based.

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Old February 28th 14, 01:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:44:40 -0800, OldGuy wrote:

Have MS and GMail accounts.

So what is the best version of Outlook?




In my view? 2013, the latest version. With an occasional exception, I
think the latest version of almost every program is the latest one.



What is the best verion without the darn ribbon?



I can't remember what the last version without the ribbon was. 2007, I
think, but I'm not sure.

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Old February 28th 14, 02:15 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Springer[_2_]
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On 2/27/14 5:44 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:17:58 -0700, Ken Springer
wrote:

And, as I understand it, WLM is web based, it's not a client like OE6 was.



No, it's not web-based.


I "sit" corrected. LOL


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Old February 28th 14, 02:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Chris S[_3_]
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"BillW50" wrote in message
...
On 2/27/2014 1:10 PM, Linea Recta wrote:
hi, I'm in the process of moving from xp to windows 7.
Now, I was stupified to learn that there is no e-mail utility at all,
not even a primitive one.
Why do MS make life so hard?
Outlook Express was great in windows XP.
Then we got Vista with "windows mail" which was worse...
And now there is no e-mail function at all, not even a primitive one, in
this so called improved modern OS?
What e-mail clients can be used on Windows 7? I suppose OE not...
I want to use my imap accounts on my provider.

I have tried Thunderbird (some time ago on Vista) and didn't like it
cause it was big, clumsy and slow.

Thanks for any advice.


Windows Mail has been replaced with Windows Live Mail, which is a free
download. Careful though, later versions are worse then earlier versions.
I like WLM 2009 the best myself. Not as good as OE6 though.

Thunderbird? Yes, Netscape (now reborn as Mozilla) always employed the
worst programmers on the planet. They couldn't program their way of a wet
paper bag if they tried.


I found it trivial to just bring winmail to Win 7 from Vista. Outlook
Express 6, reborn!
Using it now....

Chris


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Old February 28th 14, 04:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 17:46:42 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:44:40 -0800, OldGuy wrote:

Have MS and GMail accounts.

So what is the best version of Outlook?




In my view? 2013, the latest version. With an occasional exception, I
think the latest version of almost every program is the latest one.



What a silly-looking typo. Everybody probably agrees with what I wrote
(but not necessarily with what I meant). Of course, what I meant was
"... the best one."

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Old February 28th 14, 04:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Thu, 27 Feb 2014 20:55:31 -0500, "Chris S"
wrote:

I found it trivial to just bring winmail to Win 7 from Vista. Outlook
Express 6, reborn!



As far as I'm concerned, Windows Mail was nothing but a later version
of Outlook Express, but with a different name rather than a different
version number. Microsoft often works hard to confuse people with the
names they give things--giving similar things different names (for
example, Outlook Express and Windows Mail) and giving dissimilar
things similar names (for example, Outlook, Outlook Express, and
Outlook.com).
 




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