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The Best Way to Manage All Your Passwords
On 8 May 2014 14:49:10 GMT, "Sir_George" wrote:
Spalls Hurgenson wrote: On 7 May 2014 13:50:36 GMT, "Sir_George" wrote: Charles Lindbergh wrote: From the Wall Street Journal. I suspect there are some freeware alternatives which are decent too, but I don't know what they are. The Best Way to Manage All Your Passwords http://on.wsj.com/1g84qKZ I have used RoboForm for years and tried many others, but Robo has been my choice as the best. I have the paid version which does not limit the number of passwords saved. Notepad + Truecrypt (+ Diskkeeper for iOS) A new text file for each website. As many "fields" and space as I need for usernames, passwords, secret questions, etc. All the files stored in a Truecrypt container which is still shown to be secure. Easily searchable, no real limits to how big your password store can get, can also be used for other private information. Everything reads TXT. Easy to copy'n'paste information into and out of the text files. All other password managers seemed clumsy in comparison. Also doesn't hurt that it's free. Yeah, sounds like a real "piece of cake". I'll just continue to use my, as you put it, "clumsy" old RoboForm. Back when I was using the Roboform trial, when I was still considering whether to purchase it, someone suggested Keepass as a free alternative, so I tried it. I browsed to a site that required a password but Keepass didn't *do* anything! WTH? I thought I had misconfigured it, but nope, so back to Roboform I went. And they all lived happily ever after. As far as I can tell, none of these other so-called password managers hold a candle to Roboform. -- Char Jackson |
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On Fri, 30 May 2014 11:50:22 -0500, Char Jackson wrote:
On 8 May 2014 14:49:10 GMT, "Sir_George" wrote: Spalls Hurgenson wrote: On 7 May 2014 13:50:36 GMT, "Sir_George" wrote: Charles Lindbergh wrote: From the Wall Street Journal. I suspect there are some freeware alternatives which are decent too, but I don't know what they are. The Best Way to Manage All Your Passwords http://on.wsj.com/1g84qKZ I have used RoboForm for years and tried many others, but Robo has been my choice as the best. I have the paid version which does not limit the number of passwords saved. Notepad + Truecrypt (+ Diskkeeper for iOS) A new text file for each website. As many "fields" and space as I need for usernames, passwords, secret questions, etc. All the files stored in a Truecrypt container which is still shown to be secure. Easily searchable, no real limits to how big your password store can get, can also be used for other private information. Everything reads TXT. Easy to copy'n'paste information into and out of the text files. All other password managers seemed clumsy in comparison. Also doesn't hurt that it's free. Yeah, sounds like a real "piece of cake". I'll just continue to use my, as you put it, "clumsy" old RoboForm. Back when I was using the Roboform trial, when I was still considering whether to purchase it, someone suggested Keepass as a free alternative, so I tried it. I browsed to a site that required a password but Keepass didn't *do* anything! WTH? I thought I had misconfigured it, but nope, so back to Roboform I went. And they all lived happily ever after. As far as I can tell, none of these other so-called password managers hold a candle to Roboform. But, gifted in the arcana of paranoia as I am, I prefer it that way. Or maybe it's superstition. Anyway, I prefer to enter my passwords manually, since I think it's somehow safer that way than having a program ready & able to log the neighborhood spy into my bank account. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On 30 May 2014, Char Jackson wrote in
alt.windows7.general: Back when I was using the Roboform trial, when I was still considering whether to purchase it, someone suggested Keepass as a free alternative, so I tried it. I browsed to a site that required a password but Keepass didn't *do* anything! WTH? I thought I had misconfigured it, but nope, so back to Roboform I went. And they all lived happily ever after. As far as I can tell, none of these other so-called password managers hold a candle to Roboform. Keepass itself doesn't interact directly with the browser in that way. It's a standalone program, although it can launch a web page and plug in the credentials for you. In order to automatically enter the credentials and to capture them you need a browser plugin. I use one called Keefox (for Firefox, obviously.) The combination of these two works very well for me. |
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On Fri, 30 May 2014 14:06:37 -0400, Nil wrote:
Keepass itself doesn't interact directly with the browser in that way. It's a standalone program, although it can launch a web page and plug in the credentials for you. In order to automatically enter the credentials and to capture them you need a browser plugin. It _sounds_ like you are saying that you need a browser plugn to use KeePass. As a frequent user of KeePass, I can assure you that's not the case. If you're saying you need a browser plugin to let you enter new credentials in the browser and have them automatically written to the KeePass database, that may be true, though I'd be at least mildly surprised if it's possible. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com Shikata ga nai... |
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On Fri, 30 May 2014 10:55:16 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 11:50:22 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: Back when I was using the Roboform trial, when I was still considering whether to purchase it, someone suggested Keepass as a free alternative, so I tried it. I browsed to a site that required a password but Keepass didn't *do* anything! WTH? I thought I had misconfigured it, but nope, so back to Roboform I went. And they all lived happily ever after. As far as I can tell, none of these other so-called password managers hold a candle to Roboform. But, gifted in the arcana of paranoia as I am, I prefer it that way. Or maybe it's superstition. Anyway, I prefer to enter my passwords manually, since I think it's somehow safer that way than having a program ready & able to log the neighborhood spy into my bank account. Roboform prompts me for the master password before doing it's auto-login stuff, so it's not as scary as it may seem. -- Char Jackson |
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On 31 May 2014, Stan Brown wrote in
alt.windows7.general: It _sounds_ like you are saying that you need a browser plugn to use KeePass. As a frequent user of KeePass, I can assure you that's not the case. No, I'm saying that you need a plugin in order fir KeePass to match the features of Roboform, LastPass and other password managers, which is for it to capture logon credentials and to fill in login forms in the web browser. As far as I know, Keepass won't do that. If you're saying you need a browser plugin to let you enter new credentials in the browser and have them automatically written to the KeePass database, that may be true, though I'd be at least mildly surprised if it's possible. Yes, it is possible. It wouldn't be nearly as useful to me if it weren't. |
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On Sat, 31 May 2014 15:17:17 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2014 07:12:02 -0700, Charles Lindbergh wrote: On Sat, 31 May 2014 08:48:34 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 10:55:16 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: On Fri, 30 May 2014 11:50:22 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: Back when I was using the Roboform trial, when I was still considering whether to purchase it, someone suggested Keepass as a free alternative, so I tried it. I browsed to a site that required a password but Keepass didn't *do* anything! WTH? I thought I had misconfigured it, but nope, so back to Roboform I went. And they all lived happily ever after. As far as I can tell, none of these other so-called password managers hold a candle to Roboform. But, gifted in the arcana of paranoia as I am, I prefer it that way. Or maybe it's superstition. Anyway, I prefer to enter my passwords manually, since I think it's somehow safer that way than having a program ready & able to log the neighborhood spy into my bank account. Roboform prompts me for the master password before doing it's auto-login stuff, so it's not as scary as it may seem. Are you using the free, portable version of Roboform? No, I use the paid version, primarily because I have a couple hundred passwords and I think the free version had a limit of only 10. Thanks, I didn't know that. I downloaded it a while ago but haven't looked at it yet. |
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On 31/05/2014 21:17, Char Jackson wrote:
I have a couple hundred passwords So your past-time hobby is to collect the passwords? Create your own database rather than outsourcing the custody to third party providers!!! -- *_Good Guy_* Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk Website: http://html-css.co.uk Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us |
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On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:52:33 +0100, Good Guy
wrote: On 31/05/2014 21:17, Char Jackson wrote: I have a couple hundred passwords So your past-time hobby is to collect the passwords? Create your own database rather than outsourcing the custody to third party providers!!! Why would he re-invent the wheel? Roboform works great for him. Where is the return on investment for him as he has already purchased Roboform? |
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On Sat, 31 May 2014 16:47:04 -0400, Nil wrote:
On 31 May 2014, Stan Brown wrote in alt.windows7.general: It _sounds_ like you are saying that you need a browser plugn to use KeePass. As a frequent user of KeePass, I can assure you that's not the case. No, I'm saying that you need a plugin in order fir KeePass to match the features of Roboform, LastPass and other password managers, which is for it to capture logon credentials and to fill in login forms in the web browser. As far as I know, Keepass won't do that. If you're saying you need a browser plugin to let you enter new credentials in the browser and have them automatically written to the KeePass database, that may be true, though I'd be at least mildly surprised if it's possible. Yes, it is possible. It wouldn't be nearly as useful to me if it weren't. Okay, then, I don't understand what you mean. I regularly use KeePass to fill in login forms in the browser, and I don't have any kind of browser plugin to do that. That's why I thought maybe you meant taking information from the Web page and storing it in the database, but now you say that wasn't it either. -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com Shikata ga nai... |
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On 01 Jun 2014, Stan Brown wrote in
alt.windows7.general: Okay, then, I don't understand what you mean. I regularly use KeePass to fill in login forms in the browser, and I don't have any kind of browser plugin to do that. That's why I thought maybe you meant taking information from the Web page and storing it in the database, but now you say that wasn't it either. Either you're misunderstanding me or I'm misunderstanding you. Can Keepass by itself capture login credentials from a web page when you enter them for the first time and offer to store them in its database? And then, when you revisit that page, will it automatically enter the credentials? I'm not aware that it can do that without help. The Firefox plugin Keefox will do that. I'm aware that you can choose an entry in Keepass and from there fire up that entry's web page and it will enter the credentials at that time. But as far as I know, it doesn't monitor your web browsing and automatically act when needed... unless you have the browser plugin installed. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. |
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On Sat, 31 May 2014 22:52:33 +0100, Good Guy
wrote: On 31/05/2014 21:17, Char Jackson wrote: I have a couple hundred passwords So your past-time hobby is to collect the passwords? I don't remember saying that or reading it elsewhere in this thread. Create your own database rather than outsourcing the custody to third party providers!!! Roboform isn't a "database". -- Char Jackson |
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 14:44:00 -0400, Nil wrote:
On 01 Jun 2014, Stan Brown wrote in alt.windows7.general: Okay, then, I don't understand what you mean. I regularly use KeePass to fill in login forms in the browser, and I don't have any kind of browser plugin to do that. That's why I thought maybe you meant taking information from the Web page and storing it in the database, but now you say that wasn't it either. Either you're misunderstanding me or I'm misunderstanding you. Can Keepass by itself capture login credentials from a web page when you enter them for the first time and offer to store them in its database? And then, when you revisit that page, will it automatically enter the credentials? I'm not aware that it can do that without help. The Firefox plugin Keefox will do that. I'm aware that you can choose an entry in Keepass and from there fire up that entry's web page and it will enter the credentials at that time. But as far as I know, it doesn't monitor your web browsing and automatically act when needed... unless you have the browser plugin installed. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. Looking at KeePass help files, I saw instructions to set up a one-line macro that enters passwords. It requires you to position the cursor on the username field and press some key combination, Ctrl-Shift-A IIRC. I didn't read the thing carefully and I didn't save the URL, but it is in their help screen online. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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On 01 Jun 2014, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote in
alt.windows7.general: Looking at KeePass help files, I saw instructions to set up a one-line macro that enters passwords. It requires you to position the cursor on the username field and press some key combination, Ctrl-Shift-A IIRC. That's what I was referring to before. You can also double-click the entry in Keepass to do the same thing. It runs the default macro, which will work with most login screens that have a slot for username then password. You can also create custom macros to handle login pages that vary from that. However, all this requires that you switch away from the login page over to Keepass. With the Keefox plugin, you leave Keepass running quietly in the system tray, but you can stay on your web page. The net effect is like Firefox's built-in password storage feature, but the passwords are securely stored in Keepass's encrypted database. |
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On Sun, 01 Jun 2014 14:44:00 -0400, Nil wrote:
On 01 Jun 2014, Stan Brown wrote in alt.windows7.general: Okay, then, I don't understand what you mean. I regularly use KeePass to fill in login forms in the browser, and I don't have any kind of browser plugin to do that. That's why I thought maybe you meant taking information from the Web page and storing it in the database, but now you say that wasn't it either. Either you're misunderstanding me or I'm misunderstanding you. Can Keepass by itself capture login credentials from a web page when you enter them for the first time and offer to store them in its database? And then, when you revisit that page, will it automatically enter the credentials? I'm not aware that it can do that without help. The Firefox plugin Keefox will do that. I'm aware that you can choose an entry in Keepass and from there fire up that entry's web page and it will enter the credentials at that time. But as far as I know, it doesn't monitor your web browsing and automatically act when needed... unless you have the browser plugin installed. Please correct me if I'm mistaken. You're quite correct. When I asked earlier whether that was what you meant, it sure looked to me like you said No. Anyway, confusion all cleared up now! -- Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA http://OakRoadSystems.com Shikata ga nai... |
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