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Is this possible to do in Windows?
Nil wrote on 5/12/2015 11:32 AM:
On 12 May 2015, Ammammata wrote in alt.windows7.general: I can't really stop appreciating the fact that in 30-more years Windows hasn't yet given the user a simple command like "print directory list" well, we have smooth icons, sliding effects, amazing transparencies, tons of "inutili orpelli" but not a GUI command to get a file list Seriously, how often does anyone really need to do that? Do other popular OSs have such a thing? I don't see it as anything Microsoft should have wasted their time on. You've always got the command line method, which gives you more flexibility than a GUI method probably would. Actually, I need to list a directory for one reason or another every few months. This might be because I like to step away from the computer when I'm thinking about computer problems. There comes a time, for me, where staring at the screen, navigating, and typing are counter productive. Since this comes up every few months, I downloaded a free product called "TreeSize Free". You pick a directory or disk partition and it lists the stuff in it sorted by size. A subdirectory can be expanded by clicking in the usual way. There is a command that will print what's on the screen. This software was recommended a while ago in the newsgroup by several people,most known to be solid citizens so I tried it and found it very useful for a variety of tasks. Download URL: http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/ -- Jeff Barnett |
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On Tue, 12 May 2015 12:33:48 -0600, Jeff Barnett wrote:
Actually, I need to list a directory for one reason or another every few months. This might be because I like to step away from the computer when I'm thinking about computer problems. There comes a time, for me, where staring at the screen, navigating, and typing are counter productive. Since this comes up every few months, I downloaded a free product called "TreeSize Free". You pick a directory or disk partition and it lists the stuff in it sorted by size. A subdirectory can be expanded by clicking in the usual way. There is a command that will print what's on the screen. This software was recommended a while ago in the newsgroup by several people,most known to be solid citizens so I tried it and found it very useful for a variety of tasks. Download URL: http://www.jam-software.com/treesize_free/ Not only recommended by solid citizens, but by me, as well. I'm glad you find it useful, as I do. -- Char Jackson |
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Is this possible to do in Windows?
Ken Blake wrote:
On Tue, 12 May 2015 01:48:48 -0400, wrote: What I want to know is, is it possible in some way to print the contents of one of the folders, say Games, to get a printout of all the shortcuts in that folder? You've already gotten several good answers, but let me add my standard answer, which gives you five choices: Here are five ways: 1. Select all the files, press and hold the shift key, then right-click and select Copy as path. Dang, that is handy -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 5/12/15 9:12 AM, Ammammata wrote:
Il giorno Tue 12 May 2015 07:48:48a, ** inviava su alt.windows7.general il messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse: I just want a printed record of all the programs I have installed. Thanks for any insight. I can't really stop appreciating the fact that in 30-more years Windows hasn't yet given the user a simple command like "print directory list" well, we have smooth icons, sliding effects, amazing transparencies, tons of "inutili orpelli" but not a GUI command to get a file list I don't know if this will give you what you want, but worth a look: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/321379 personally I use Total Commander to make tens of thing that windows doesn't do directly, i.e. have a list of whats-inside-a-folder -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 36.0.4 Thunderbird 31.5 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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In message , Nil
writes: On 12 May 2015, Ammammata wrote in alt.windows7.general: I can't really stop appreciating the fact that in 30-more years Windows hasn't yet given the user a simple command like "print directory list" Me too. well, we have smooth icons, sliding effects, amazing transparencies, tons of "inutili orpelli" but not a GUI command to get a file list Seriously, how often does anyone really need to do that? Do other Well, quite apart from that another has said he does reasonably often (FSVO often), I don't think that's the point Ammammata was making: more that they've given us all these graphical "gimmicks", but no GUI way of providing this function. popular OSs have such a thing? I don't see it as anything Microsoft should have wasted their time on. You've always got the command line But you think they should on the eye candies (-:? method, which gives you more flexibility than a GUI method probably would. I used to think like that (and still do some of the time), but a _well designed_ GUI function can have plenty of flexibility. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "When _I_ saw him, he was dead." "uh, he looked exactly the same when he was alive, except he was vertical." (The Trouble with Harry) |
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Is this possible to do in Windows?
On 12 May 2015, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote in alt.windows7.general: Well, quite apart from that another has said he does reasonably often (FSVO often), I don't think that's the point Ammammata was making: more that they've given us all these graphical "gimmicks", but no GUI way of providing this function. Well, eye candy sells and pleases customers. I appreciate it myself to a certain degree. I'm not at all surprised that an obscure, rarely-used function might not be included, especially when there are already perfectly good built-in ways and third-party utilities to accomplish them. And apparently, it's not just Microsoft - no other popular OS has But you think they should on the eye candies (-:? Yes, I do. An ugly, outdated-looking interface would be a detriment on the market. I used to think like that (and still do some of the time), but a _well designed_ GUI function can have plenty of flexibility. I guess it's becoming a lost art, but I use the command line for certain things every day. I don't expect either that or the GUI to be the best choice for every task. |
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Il giorno Tue 12 May 2015 11:54:25p, *Ken Springer* inviava su
alt.windows7.general il messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse: I don't know if this will give you what you want, but worth a look: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/321379 @echo off dir %1 /-p /o:gn "%temp%\Listing" start /w notepad /p "%temp%\Listing" del "%temp%\Listing" exit well, it's just a batch file: it would work but it's not a direct command -- /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\ -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=- http://www.bb2002.it ............ [ al lavoro ] ........... |
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Is this possible to do in Windows?
Il giorno Tue 12 May 2015 07:32:15p, *Nil* inviava su alt.windows7.general
il messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse: Seriously, how often does anyone really need to do that? Do other popular OSs have such a thing? well, I do: not very often but I do I've not yet checked other OSs because I always used that funcion integrated in alternative shell programs: maybe this evening I'll give a look to the linux machine at home -- /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\ -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=- http://www.bb2002.it ............ [ al lavoro ] ........... |
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On 5/13/15 3:46 AM, Ammammata wrote:
Il giorno Tue 12 May 2015 11:54:25p, *Ken Springer* inviava su alt.windows7.general il messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse: I don't know if this will give you what you want, but worth a look: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/321379 @echo off dir %1 /-p /o:gn "%temp%\Listing" start /w notepad /p "%temp%\Listing" del "%temp%\Listing" exit well, it's just a batch file: it would work but it's not a direct command Maybe I misunderstood the full message. Just so we don't get confused, would you define what you mean by "direct command\. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 36.0.4 Thunderbird 31.5 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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| @echo off
| dir %1 /-p /o:gn "%temp%\Listing" | start /w notepad /p "%temp%\Listing" | del "%temp%\Listing" | exit | | | well, it's just a batch file: it would work but it's not a direct command | I doubt you'll find more conveniences on Linux. Probably less. People who care about these things usually learn console commands, learn scripting, or find their own collection of little utility programs that will do what they want. It's a giant field of tools and knowledge that IT people and "power users" are aware of. I keep over a dozen VBS files on my Desktop for all sorts of purposes: Fixing line returns in Unix files; cleaning hidden tracking data; cleaning temp folders; converting DOC to TXT; decoding/encoding Base-64; cleaning up obfuscated URLs; registering/unregistering ActiveX files.... I also write more complex VBScript utilities to do things like unpack and edit MSI files, create my own image viewer, process my website server logs, convert HXS files to normal CHM help files.... the possibilities are endless. If it's worth it to you to learn something like VBScript or javascript for use with the Windows Script Host (WSH) then you can do all sorts of things without much trouble, essentially writing your own mini-software on the spot. (And there are groups, like microsoft.public.scripting.vbscript) WSH is basically batch files for the post-DOS age. It's like command line, but far more flexible and powerful, able to enlist most available COM objects on a system. (IE, MS Word and an endless number of Microsoft and 3rd-party libraries.) Tools like WSH (and the Unix-like Powershell) are what people who manage computers use to do their work, and to access other built-in tools like WMI. If you look at the script I posted above you can see the idea. The console method is easier and quicker, but requires memorizing the commands and is limited in adaptability. The VBS approach takes longer to write but then it can be reused in numerous ways, easily, and you never have to open a console window again. Once you've done the initial work you can have one-click convenience from then on. So, what I'm saying is that pretty much everything you want is available if you want to spend the time learning how to use the tools. Otherwise, you're in the "civilian" camp of people who only do things that Microsoft has provided a *prominent* button for. It's like any other *very* complex tool. It simply can't be turned into a push-button convenience without some sacrifice of functionality. Just as a car will warn you when your oil is dangerously low but if you want to know whether to add a quart you need to know how to get under the hood and check the dipstick. Or if you want to cook something more involved than Mac and Cheese or frozen dinners then you'll need a stove, pans, herbs, etc, and not just a microwave oven. One of the best things about Windows is that MS has always provided access for numerous levels of expertise. Macs are like a car with the hood welded shut and smiley faces on the dashboard. Linux is like a do-it-yourself car kit -- great if you're a nerd with time to burn but with a steep learning curve and an unsupportive environment for beginners. And just about anything you want to do involves getting your hands greasy again. Like teenagers with their cars on the front lawn, many Linux fans spend all of their time working under the hood and really don't care to drive the darn thing. Windows is in the middle. Whether you just want to learn some tweaks or write your own software, there are lots of tools and there's lots of info available from people who are glad to help. |
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| well, it's just a batch file: it would work but it's not a direct
command | | Maybe I misunderstood the full message. Just so we don't get confused, | would you define what you mean by "direct command\. | He explained it above: "GUI command" In other words, a button, menu or other method that wraps a task so that one doesn't have to make a separate project out of it. |
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On 5/13/15 7:35 AM, Mayayana wrote:
| well, it's just a batch file: it would work but it's not a direct command | | Maybe I misunderstood the full message. Just so we don't get confused, | would you define what you mean by "direct command\. | He explained it above: "GUI command" In other words, a button, menu or other method that wraps a task so that one doesn't have to make a separate project out of it. That's what I thought he meant. puzzled look And it is a GUI operation to use it. The text he quoted is the command itself that you create or is created by the FixIt button shown in the KB article. But to use it, you simply right click on the directory (IIRC, haven't used it for awhile), a pop-up menu appears, and then select Print Directory. I have it installed in my XP system, and would always install it on the XP machines I rebuilt. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 36.0.4 Thunderbird 31.5 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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Is this possible to do in Windows?
Il giorno Wed 13 May 2015 03:33:07p, *Mayayana* inviava su
alt.windows7.general il messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse: People who care about these things usually learn console commands, learn scripting, or find their own collection of little utility programs that will do what they want. yes, this is exactly what I did ages ago, during MS-DOS times, around 1989- 1992 I had .BAT files for almost everything -- /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ /\/\ /\/\ /-\ T /-\ -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- -=- - -=- http://www.bb2002.it ............ [ al lavoro ] ........... |
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Is this possible to do in Windows?
On Wed, 13 May 2015 09:48:55 +0000 (UTC)
Ammammata wrote: Il giorno Tue 12 May 2015 07:32:15p, *Nil* inviava su alt.windows7.general il messaggio . Vediamo cosa scrisse: Seriously, how often does anyone really need to do that? Do other popular OSs have such a thing? well, I do: not very often but I do I've not yet checked other OSs because I always used that funcion integrated in alternative shell programs: maybe this evening I'll give a look to the linux machine at home I don't know of a Linux file manager that has the ability to directly print a folder listing OOTB. However, most of the file managers allow for custom actions to be added to the right-click context menu so that functionality could easily be added. -- Wildman GNU/Linux user #557453 The cow died so I don't need your bull! |
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