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On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:28:16 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2015 12:54:36 -0700, Stormin' Norman wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2015 14:50:49 -0400, wrote: Egad. What a frustrating mess! Thanks anyway JW Did you ever try to verify the audio hardware is working outside of windows? I have a second PC that is XP - the headphones and the speakers both work on that machine. I have a new PCI Express X1 sound board coming from China (ugh) in about a month so they say. Maybe it will solve my woes. Hope so. Life shud not be this difficult. Thanks JW It doo bother me tough, that it keeps telling me that a thing is not plugged in, when it is. Sobeit. JW Have you made any recent changes to the front panel Audio wiring ? Like changed cables, changed from AC'97 mode to HDAudio mode ? I don't think this is the issue, since your stuff is more messed up than that. Paul |
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On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:41:31 -0700, Stormin' Norman
wrote: As it happens, I have a Live CD, and played with it a few years back. I shud have tried that I guess. I would download the latest Linux Mint or Ubuntu Live CD, just to be on the safe side. It is not a 100% sure-fire diagnostic, but it has a high probability of success. Is the audio built into the main board or is it a separate sound card? If it is a card, you can try shutting the machine off and moving it to a different slot if you have one available. Then, fire up windows and see what happens. The best approach to diagnostics is to keep it simple and start at the first stage. Making sure the hardware is functional is the most logical first step. My audio is built into the main board. JW |
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On Mon, 25 May 2015 19:24:38 -0400, Paul wrote:
It doo bother me tough, that it keeps telling me that a thing is not plugged in, when it is. Sobeit. JW Have you made any recent changes to the front panel Audio wiring ? Like changed cables, changed from AC'97 mode to HDAudio mode ? I don't think this is the issue, since your stuff is more messed up than that. Paul Yes and no. The MSI FM2-A85XA-G43 mobo has a 'front panel audio connector' (so-called JAUD1), and the ROSEWILL case has a cable with two connector ends, one labelled HDA, the other AC 97. I had always used the former (for two years), but yesterday I made a try using the latter, plus none at all. I still had no audio either way. There are also two other mobo connectors, tagged JFP1 and JFP2 that are said to be 'front panel connectors', which are not audio, but connect to other front panel leds etc. I have not touched those. Thanks JW |
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On Mon, 25 May 2015 19:24:38 -0400, Paul wrote: It doo bother me tough, that it keeps telling me that a thing is not plugged in, when it is. Sobeit. JW Have you made any recent changes to the front panel Audio wiring ? Like changed cables, changed from AC'97 mode to HDAudio mode ? I don't think this is the issue, since your stuff is more messed up than that. Paul Yes and no. The MSI FM2-A85XA-G43 mobo has a 'front panel audio connector' (so-called JAUD1), and the ROSEWILL case has a cable with two connector ends, one labelled HDA, the other AC 97. I had always used the former (for two years), but yesterday I made a try using the latter, plus none at all. I still had no audio either way. There are also two other mobo connectors, tagged JFP1 and JFP2 that are said to be 'front panel connectors', which are not audio, but connect to other front panel leds etc. I have not touched those. Thanks JW JFP1 has the standard (HP-like) 2x4 arrangement of PowerSwitch, ResetSwitch, PowerLED, and HDD_LED signals. Those are the front panel control switches and indicator lights. The other connector JFP2 has the case SPKR wires for making beep noises during POST. The JAUD1 is a dual definition header. Back when there was AC'97, there was room for two jumper plugs, which provided a continuity path for the green Speaker audio plug. The AC'97 header definition was changed, so the need for jumpers was removed. Which then leaves the difference between AC'97 front panel mode and HDAudio mode, the usage of SENSE_SEND and the two other associated signals. The center and right-most columns in this table, correspond to the capabilities of your motherboard. If your case has the two audio cable types, then you can match the settings in the computer, to the type of audio cable you've connected. The only difference this should make, is in whether the SENSE pins are used for their intended purpose. If there was a problem here, it would be limited to the Front Panel audio. Notice there is still a consistent keying pin location, to prevent accidental rotation of the header. ******* Traditional AC'97 Modified AC'97 HDAudio ----------------- (for dual mode) (dual mode or otherwise) MIC2 AGND MIC2 AGND Port1_L AGND MICBIAS +5VA MICBIAS ??? Port1_R PRESENCE# FPOUT_R - RET_R FPOUT_R --- Port2_R SENSE1_RETURN HP_ON ??? Sense_Send FPOUT_L - RET_L FPOUT_L --- Port2_L SENSE2_RETURN (When not used, had (No jumpers needed (Port names reflect the retaskable two jumper plugs, to on header. No return nature of the jacks. PRESENCE# join FPOUT to RET. signals are needed. signal is grounded, if a real HP_ON and +5VA were Power removed for HDAudio cable assembly is being for an optional non-existent headphone connected. The three SENSE signals headphone amplifier.) amplifier. Only five use side-contact switches in the wires should really be front panel jacks, to sense when connected, for fault something is plugged in.) free performance! Leave the RET wires dangling.) ******* When you use the HDAudio cable in the computer case, and connect it to the 2x5 header, that's only half the story. The BIOS has a setting, which "declares" the cabling as either AC'97 or HDAudio mode. In theory, that declaration should be picked up by the audio driver. But it's possible the audio driver in Windows, also has a setting in the control panel, to decide whether to use the SENSE information or not. Only in the traditional AC'97 case, of years ago, would a user lose sound, because they forgot to put the two jumper plugs back, after removing their front panel cabling. On your motherboard, no jumper plugs would be provided, and none are needed. HDAudio chips have enough channels, they no longer use weird wire-like routing. The jumper plugs were part of that routing scheme. And now they're no longer used or needed. I don't see this as the cause of any problems. You can see if the RealTek panel has any provision for the front panel audio setting, of whether to use the SENSE or not. But it's not going to change a lack of audio on the back. You can see my setting here, because mine uses an AC'97 cable and has no side-contact switches on the audio jacks. http://i61.tinypic.com/1zc055w.jpg Paul |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 07:06:29 -0400, Paul wrote:
wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2015 19:24:38 -0400, Paul wrote: It doo bother me tough, that it keeps telling me that a thing is not plugged in, when it is. Sobeit. JW Have you made any recent changes to the front panel Audio wiring ? Like changed cables, changed from AC'97 mode to HDAudio mode ? I don't think this is the issue, since your stuff is more messed up than that. Paul Yes and no. The MSI FM2-A85XA-G43 mobo has a 'front panel audio connector' (so-called JAUD1), and the ROSEWILL case has a cable with two connector ends, one labelled HDA, the other AC 97. I had always used the former (for two years), but yesterday I made a try using the latter, plus none at all. I still had no audio either way. There are also two other mobo connectors, tagged JFP1 and JFP2 that are said to be 'front panel connectors', which are not audio, but connect to other front panel leds etc. I have not touched those. Thanks JW JFP1 has the standard (HP-like) 2x4 arrangement of PowerSwitch, ResetSwitch, PowerLED, and HDD_LED signals. Those are the front panel control switches and indicator lights. The other connector JFP2 has the case SPKR wires for making beep noises during POST. The JAUD1 is a dual definition header. Back when there was AC'97, there was room for two jumper plugs, which provided a continuity path for the green Speaker audio plug. The AC'97 header definition was changed, so the need for jumpers was removed. Which then leaves the difference between AC'97 front panel mode and HDAudio mode, the usage of SENSE_SEND and the two other associated signals. The center and right-most columns in this table, correspond to the capabilities of your motherboard. If your case has the two audio cable types, then you can match the settings in the computer, to the type of audio cable you've connected. The only difference this should make, is in whether the SENSE pins are used for their intended purpose. If there was a problem here, it would be limited to the Front Panel audio. Notice there is still a consistent keying pin location, to prevent accidental rotation of the header. ******* Traditional AC'97 Modified AC'97 HDAudio ----------------- (for dual mode) (dual mode or otherwise) MIC2 AGND MIC2 AGND Port1_L AGND MICBIAS +5VA MICBIAS ??? Port1_R PRESENCE# FPOUT_R - RET_R FPOUT_R --- Port2_R SENSE1_RETURN HP_ON ??? Sense_Send FPOUT_L - RET_L FPOUT_L --- Port2_L SENSE2_RETURN (When not used, had (No jumpers needed (Port names reflect the retaskable two jumper plugs, to on header. No return nature of the jacks. PRESENCE# join FPOUT to RET. signals are needed. signal is grounded, if a real HP_ON and +5VA were Power removed for HDAudio cable assembly is being for an optional non-existent headphone connected. The three SENSE signals headphone amplifier.) amplifier. Only five use side-contact switches in the wires should really be front panel jacks, to sense when connected, for fault something is plugged in.) free performance! Leave the RET wires dangling.) ******* When you use the HDAudio cable in the computer case, and connect it to the 2x5 header, that's only half the story. The BIOS has a setting, which "declares" the cabling as either AC'97 or HDAudio mode. In theory, that declaration should be picked up by the audio driver. But it's possible the audio driver in Windows, also has a setting in the control panel, to decide whether to use the SENSE information or not. Only in the traditional AC'97 case, of years ago, would a user lose sound, because they forgot to put the two jumper plugs back, after removing their front panel cabling. On your motherboard, no jumper plugs would be provided, and none are needed. HDAudio chips have enough channels, they no longer use weird wire-like routing. The jumper plugs were part of that routing scheme. And now they're no longer used or needed. I don't see this as the cause of any problems. You can see if the RealTek panel has any provision for the front panel audio setting, of whether to use the SENSE or not. But it's not going to change a lack of audio on the back. You can see my setting here, because mine uses an AC'97 cable and has no side-contact switches on the audio jacks. http://i61.tinypic.com/1zc055w.jpg Paul Thanks for the info. JW |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:13:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:41:31 -0700, Stormin' Norman wrote: As it happens, I have a Live CD, and played with it a few years back. I shud have tried that I guess. I would download the latest Linux Mint or Ubuntu Live CD, just to be on the safe side. It is not a 100% sure-fire diagnostic, but it has a high probability of success. Is the audio built into the main board or is it a separate sound card? If it is a card, you can try shutting the machine off and moving it to a different slot if you have one available. Then, fire up windows and see what happens. The best approach to diagnostics is to keep it simple and start at the first stage. Making sure the hardware is functional is the most logical first step. My audio is built into the main board. Have you checked the system bios and verified the built in audio is enabled? Better yet, have you entirely reset the system bios? If I am not mistaken, you experienced the failure of a dvd drive which began this entire little episode? It is very easy to reset the bios, if you would like to try this ( I recommend doing so) and if you want assistance, let me know and I will look up the instructions on the proper procedure for your specific motherboard, or, you can look it up yourself on the manufacturers web site. Let me know. This is a worthwhile exercise, if the machine is reasonably bog-standard. If the motherboard is enthusiast-type, the user has entered a lot of custom settings, you want to record anything critical to error-free operation. For example, my new motherboard stores BIOS "Profiles" of some sort in flash. And you have to remember to reload those, to get the RAM back to an error free state. While XMP works a treat on that system, if you fill the machine with RAM, the XMP stops working, and then it's back to old-fashioned RAM tweaking to get it running. I have a single, credible profile stored on the machine, and that saves me tweaking and retesting after an "event" happens. On the one hand, there is definite value in "Load setup defaults" in the BIOS, or the longer "pull the CMOS battery, drain all power" type methods. Load setup defaults is safer, from a gefingerpoken point of view. You can keep the case side panel on the machine, while doing that one. Then, re-enter the BIOS settings and verify the HDAudio chip is still enabled. OEM machines don't really have any custom settings to speak of, which is why resetting the BIOS on those, is an easy decision to make. It can't hurt anything in that case. Paul |
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On Mon, 25 May 2015 19:09:18 -0400, Paul wrote:
I examined the drivers existing in Device Manager, and found 'System Speakers' under 'System Devices'. It says 'no drivers installed for this device'. Maybe this is why I have no audio. JW |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:34:06 -0700, Stormin' Norman
wrote: My audio is built into the main board. Have you checked the system bios and verified the built in audio is enabled? Better yet, have you entirely reset the system bios? If I am not mistaken, you experienced the failure of a dvd drive which began this entire little episode? You are correct - that is when I first noticed no audio. I have sinced replaced said drive. It is very easy to reset the bios, if you would like to try this ( I recommend doing so) and if you want assistance, let me know and I will look up the instructions on the proper procedure for your specific motherboard, or, you can look it up yourself on the manufacturers web site. Let me know. I wanted to try that because it seems logical that just maybe therein lies the problem. After all, it keeps saying the speakers are not plugged in, and they are! Tell me how to reset this Bios - I wud like to try that at this point. I tried to find that out, but could not for some reason. Thanks JW |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 09:21:36 -0400, Paul wrote:
Stormin' Norman wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:13:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:41:31 -0700, Stormin' Norman wrote: As it happens, I have a Live CD, and played with it a few years back. I shud have tried that I guess. I would download the latest Linux Mint or Ubuntu Live CD, just to be on the safe side. It is not a 100% sure-fire diagnostic, but it has a high probability of success. Is the audio built into the main board or is it a separate sound card? If it is a card, you can try shutting the machine off and moving it to a different slot if you have one available. Then, fire up windows and see what happens. The best approach to diagnostics is to keep it simple and start at the first stage. Making sure the hardware is functional is the most logical first step. My audio is built into the main board. Have you checked the system bios and verified the built in audio is enabled? Better yet, have you entirely reset the system bios? If I am not mistaken, you experienced the failure of a dvd drive which began this entire little episode? It is very easy to reset the bios, if you would like to try this ( I recommend doing so) and if you want assistance, let me know and I will look up the instructions on the proper procedure for your specific motherboard, or, you can look it up yourself on the manufacturers web site. Let me know. This is a worthwhile exercise, if the machine is reasonably bog-standard. If the motherboard is enthusiast-type, the user has entered a lot of custom settings, you want to record anything critical to error-free operation. For example, my new motherboard stores BIOS "Profiles" of some sort in flash. And you have to remember to reload those, to get the RAM back to an error free state. While XMP works a treat on that system, if you fill the machine with RAM, the XMP stops working, and then it's back to old-fashioned RAM tweaking to get it running. I have a single, credible profile stored on the machine, and that saves me tweaking and retesting after an "event" happens. On the one hand, there is definite value in "Load setup defaults" in the BIOS, or the longer "pull the CMOS battery, drain all power" type methods. Load setup defaults is safer, from a gefingerpoken point of view. You can keep the case side panel on the machine, while doing that one. Then, re-enter the BIOS settings and verify the HDAudio chip is still enabled. I saw no 'load setup defaults' in my Bios. I am familiar with pulling/changing the CMOS battery. Done it often. I am going to do that right now. JW OEM machines don't really have any custom settings to speak of, which is why resetting the BIOS on those, is an easy decision to make. It can't hurt anything in that case. Paul |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:05:55 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2015 09:21:36 -0400, Paul wrote: Stormin' Norman wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:13:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:41:31 -0700, Stormin' Norman wrote: As it happens, I have a Live CD, and played with it a few years back. I shud have tried that I guess. I would download the latest Linux Mint or Ubuntu Live CD, just to be on the safe side. It is not a 100% sure-fire diagnostic, but it has a high probability of success. Is the audio built into the main board or is it a separate sound card? If it is a card, you can try shutting the machine off and moving it to a different slot if you have one available. Then, fire up windows and see what happens. The best approach to diagnostics is to keep it simple and start at the first stage. Making sure the hardware is functional is the most logical first step. My audio is built into the main board. Have you checked the system bios and verified the built in audio is enabled? Better yet, have you entirely reset the system bios? If I am not mistaken, you experienced the failure of a dvd drive which began this entire little episode? It is very easy to reset the bios, if you would like to try this ( I recommend doing so) and if you want assistance, let me know and I will look up the instructions on the proper procedure for your specific motherboard, or, you can look it up yourself on the manufacturers web site. Let me know. This is a worthwhile exercise, if the machine is reasonably bog-standard. If the motherboard is enthusiast-type, the user has entered a lot of custom settings, you want to record anything critical to error-free operation. For example, my new motherboard stores BIOS "Profiles" of some sort in flash. And you have to remember to reload those, to get the RAM back to an error free state. While XMP works a treat on that system, if you fill the machine with RAM, the XMP stops working, and then it's back to old-fashioned RAM tweaking to get it running. I have a single, credible profile stored on the machine, and that saves me tweaking and retesting after an "event" happens. On the one hand, there is definite value in "Load setup defaults" in the BIOS, or the longer "pull the CMOS battery, drain all power" type methods. Load setup defaults is safer, from a gefingerpoken point of view. You can keep the case side panel on the machine, while doing that one. Then, re-enter the BIOS settings and verify the HDAudio chip is still enabled. I saw no 'load setup defaults' in my Bios. I am familiar with pulling/changing the CMOS battery. Done it often. I am going to do that right now. JW I did this - had no effect that I can see. JW OEM machines don't really have any custom settings to speak of, which is why resetting the BIOS on those, is an easy decision to make. It can't hurt anything in that case. Paul |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 07:30:07 -0700, Stormin' Norman
wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:15:15 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:05:55 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 09:21:36 -0400, Paul wrote: Stormin' Norman wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:13:11 -0400, wrote: On Mon, 25 May 2015 16:41:31 -0700, Stormin' Norman wrote: As it happens, I have a Live CD, and played with it a few years back. I shud have tried that I guess. I would download the latest Linux Mint or Ubuntu Live CD, just to be on the safe side. It is not a 100% sure-fire diagnostic, but it has a high probability of success. Is the audio built into the main board or is it a separate sound card? If it is a card, you can try shutting the machine off and moving it to a different slot if you have one available. Then, fire up windows and see what happens. The best approach to diagnostics is to keep it simple and start at the first stage. Making sure the hardware is functional is the most logical first step. My audio is built into the main board. Have you checked the system bios and verified the built in audio is enabled? Better yet, have you entirely reset the system bios? If I am not mistaken, you experienced the failure of a dvd drive which began this entire little episode? It is very easy to reset the bios, if you would like to try this ( I recommend doing so) and if you want assistance, let me know and I will look up the instructions on the proper procedure for your specific motherboard, or, you can look it up yourself on the manufacturers web site. Let me know. This is a worthwhile exercise, if the machine is reasonably bog-standard. If the motherboard is enthusiast-type, the user has entered a lot of custom settings, you want to record anything critical to error-free operation. For example, my new motherboard stores BIOS "Profiles" of some sort in flash. And you have to remember to reload those, to get the RAM back to an error free state. While XMP works a treat on that system, if you fill the machine with RAM, the XMP stops working, and then it's back to old-fashioned RAM tweaking to get it running. I have a single, credible profile stored on the machine, and that saves me tweaking and retesting after an "event" happens. On the one hand, there is definite value in "Load setup defaults" in the BIOS, or the longer "pull the CMOS battery, drain all power" type methods. Load setup defaults is safer, from a gefingerpoken point of view. You can keep the case side panel on the machine, while doing that one. Then, re-enter the BIOS settings and verify the HDAudio chip is still enabled. I saw no 'load setup defaults' in my Bios. I am familiar with pulling/changing the CMOS battery. Done it often. I am going to do that right now. JW I did this - had no effect that I can see. Simply pulling the battery can frequently result in no effect unless you wait long enough for the charge stored in the capacitors to bleed down. The better way is to leave the battery alone (the holders can be VERY fragile), instead short out the bios jumper / solder points. I will dig through your other posts to see if you have posted the make and model of the board. I waited 10 minutes. My mobo: MSI FM2-A85XA-G43 MS-7793 (v2.x) JW |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 07:50:28 -0700, Stormin' Norman
wrote: Simply pulling the battery can frequently result in no effect unless you wait long enough for the charge stored in the capacitors to bleed down. The better way is to leave the battery alone (the holders can be VERY fragile), instead short out the bios jumper / solder points. I will dig through your other posts to see if you have posted the make and model of the board. I waited 10 minutes. My mobo: MSI FM2-A85XA-G43 MS-7793 (v2.x) If you didn't unplug the power cord from the machine, the capacitors might not bleed down at all. Never-the-less, here is the manual for your board, download, extract and open it: http://us.msi.com/support/mb/FM2A85X...ml#down-manual Section 2 refers to the bios, page 2-7 shows you where to find the audio controller setting and page 2-9 shows you where to find the Restore default bios setting, it is in the exit menu. I could not find the mechanical method of resetting clearing the CMOS bios, I am sure there must be a way, I just couldn't find it. Go ahead and restore the default settings, remember, change the date and time in the OS back to the correct settings and do it immediately after rebooting. Sorry for the pause - I had to deal with other personals. First, thanks for the manual URL. Turns out my paper manual that came with the mobo is nowhere the same. I used yours naturally - found what I could not before. When I pulled the CMOS battery, I also pulled the power cord knowing it continues to supply mobo power even tho the mobo is shut down. When I replaced the battery, I restored the Bios default settings - re-booted. Sorry to say things look about the same. Under Control Panel Sounds I see: 1 - Digital Display Audio AMD High Definition Audio Device Not plugged in Red Speakers Realtek High Definition Audio Not plugged in Red Realtek Digital Output Realtek High Definition Audio Disabled Black The Desktop Tray Icon for the speaker is RED. The Sound Scheme for all events are GRAY. That's all I can think to tell you at this point. Thanks JW |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 07:50:28 -0700, Stormin' Norman wrote: Simply pulling the battery can frequently result in no effect unless you wait long enough for the charge stored in the capacitors to bleed down. The better way is to leave the battery alone (the holders can be VERY fragile), instead short out the bios jumper / solder points. I will dig through your other posts to see if you have posted the make and model of the board. I waited 10 minutes. My mobo: MSI FM2-A85XA-G43 MS-7793 (v2.x) If you didn't unplug the power cord from the machine, the capacitors might not bleed down at all. Never-the-less, here is the manual for your board, download, extract and open it: http://us.msi.com/support/mb/FM2A85X...ml#down-manual Section 2 refers to the bios, page 2-7 shows you where to find the audio controller setting and page 2-9 shows you where to find the Restore default bios setting, it is in the exit menu. I could not find the mechanical method of resetting clearing the CMOS bios, I am sure there must be a way, I just couldn't find it. Go ahead and restore the default settings, remember, change the date and time in the OS back to the correct settings and do it immediately after rebooting. Sorry for the pause - I had to deal with other personals. First, thanks for the manual URL. Turns out my paper manual that came with the mobo is nowhere the same. I used yours naturally - found what I could not before. When I pulled the CMOS battery, I also pulled the power cord knowing it continues to supply mobo power even tho the mobo is shut down. When I replaced the battery, I restored the Bios default settings - re-booted. Sorry to say things look about the same. Under Control Panel Sounds I see: 1 - Digital Display Audio AMD High Definition Audio Device Not plugged in Red Speakers Realtek High Definition Audio Not plugged in Red Realtek Digital Output Realtek High Definition Audio Disabled Black The Desktop Tray Icon for the speaker is RED. The Sound Scheme for all events are GRAY. That's all I can think to tell you at this point. 1. What about the device that showed no drivers installed? 2. Did you press the CMOS reset button on the mainboard? 3. Did you attempt to boot from the Linux live cd? 4. When you pulled the battery, did the date change? 5. Have you updated the bios to the newest version, on the MSI website it appears to be dated February 2015 Again - sorry for delayed response. I have beaucoup responsibilities I will not go into that take much of my time and influence my thinkings. I should just give all this up and wait for my Chinese sound board and hope that works. That said, I got out my Linux stuff in closet, and wouldn't you know I cud not find a live CD. I really thought I had made and used one. I'm talking at least three years ago. Anyway I did find several Ubuntu versions of which I tried a v11.04 disk. It seemed to install ok, but when I ran the result in its so-called test mode so as to not disturb my W7, it would not play any audio. I tried a few MP3's and OGG's. I don't remember what Linux files are audio. I thought to install XP on another loose HDD I have to try its audio, but quickly re-discovered that this MOBO is not really geared up for XP without a lot of workaround. So I gave that up. No, the date did not change when I pulled the CMOS battery. That is strange, but is an indicator that the CMOS was not really reset, huh? I dunno what BIOS version I have - have to take a look, I do know I subscribe to riverAgent, and I downloaded and installed what they said should be ungraded. No, I did not press the CMOS reset button - gotta find it. I told you how I handled the reset. I don't remember what device showed no driver installed. My bad. Have to revue prior posts when I get the time. Thanks for your support. I'll remember you in my will. JW |
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