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  #31  
Old July 22nd 15, 01:26 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Ken1943
writes:
It did for me without doing anything. Checked a few days later and it
was activated. Their activation server did that from day 1 2009 and
probably will do it for every version although I haven't read about it
for 7 & 8.1 yet !

Are you saying this report will go away by itself in time? I can live
with that.

[]
Are you - between you - saying that a legally-activated system is
constantly contacting the server? Because that's the only way I can see
for a server that's dodgy and then been fixed to make a system behave as
described (i. e. suddenly start showing that it's not genuine, then for
that message to go away).

I didn't _think_ that a system, once legally activated, would have any
automatic regular contact with the server, at least up to and including
Windows 7. I do hope I'm right about that.


There have been theories about "Call Home" on Microsoft OSes,
but I haven't heard any stories about this lately. Perhaps
that's what has happened. A Call-Home threshold was passed.
You would think if they were doing that, the system wouldn't
"burp' unless the network was disconnected when it woke up.

I think the 971033 is de-selected by default when I look
in Windows Update.

"This issue, computers calling home, got new wind under its wings
last February when Microsoft published an update to Windows 7.
Update for Windows Activation Technologies (KB971033) was not
only designed to check you are running a valid and correctly
activated copy of Windows, but is was also coded to call home
every now and then, to check that the validity status of
Windows installation had not changed."

Perhaps if Al installed that by mistake, that's what did it.
I don't think it installs, without the user ticking it.

Paul
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  #32  
Old July 22nd 15, 02:55 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
philo
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On 07/21/2015 12:04 PM, Al Drake wrote:
On 7/21/2015 12:53 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 12:42:00 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/21/2015 12:33 PM, ray carter wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 11:33:33 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/21/2015 10:50 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:43:36 +0100, Al Drake
wrote:

On an old system that I haven't started up for some time I
got this
message at the lower right of my screen. I searched for a fix and
came
upon this
http://temcam.com/2013/10/25/how-to-...genuine-error/

As it says I used the CMD (run as administrator) and entered
SLMGR
-REARM and hit return. I rebooted and all was well. Now a few days
later I get the same message. Is anyone familiar with a direct fix?
I've read about other fixes but I'd like to get a first hand account
of what really works to set this installation straight.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Get the pirate program "Windows 7 Loader". Whether you used to be
legit or not, it'll shut it up.

I was amused by that download. I don't think I have the brass
to use
something that says it's not legit. I am at a point where I'm more or
less in favor of pirating Windows after all the problems MicroSoft
releases.

There are other LEGAL alternatives.

That's what I'm looking for. Someone that has fixed this other than so
many cures that are suggested. I've read about the Activation process
but this install has been activated to that's not on the top of my list.

To me it seems like there should be a quick fix that directly address
this issues that resulted from this bug.


You can activate it through Microsoft and pay them $$. If you are
positive the
copy you have is legit, you can call MS and try to hash it out with them.
Personally, I would not have the patience to jump through those hoops.

I don't have any desire to do what shouldn't be needed to do in the
first place. I paid for several Win7 disks and again when I used the
instant upgrade to Ultimate. Each must have cost quite a bit if I added
it all up. I have nothing but retail versions and did the installs
myself. So, yes, I'm sure they are legit.

I wasn't aware that Activation a second time would cost me more money
so that's another reason I won't be doing that.

thanks for the reply Tough Guy no. 1265.



If it's legit, you DO NOT have to pay to activate it a 2nd time



If OEM however it will have to be the same hardware.
  #33  
Old July 22nd 15, 08:39 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Al Drake wrote:

I've wasted a lot of time many days searching for fixes that don't do
anything. I'm surprised at how many there are that claim that one is the
right one.

This time it was an activation issue and I was successful in
reactivation. I guess it doesn't matter what cause it at this point.



.....and the answer to the mystery of how it was reactivated is ????

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  #34  
Old July 22nd 15, 01:29 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Al Drake
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On 7/22/2015 3:39 AM, . . .winston wrote:
Al Drake wrote:

I've wasted a lot of time many days searching for fixes that don't do
anything. I'm surprised at how many there are that claim that one is the
right one.

This time it was an activation issue and I was successful in
reactivation. I guess it doesn't matter what cause it at this point.



....and the answer to the mystery of how it was reactivated is ????

It seems it was going to be activated automatically but I decided to
click to have it done manually. It completed and activation reported as
successful. I think there are some changes in process regarding
Microsoft products and others. I noticed some user agreements regarding
privacy have changed and when I used Microsoft Office an update
installed which started to install Office 2013. Going forward I was
required to set up a Cloud account. There was no way too avoid this so I
opted to allow them to #u(K off.

OT side Note:

Today I thought I'd create a Social Security account online. This
process was denied which required me to place a phone call. During that
call I was told there was no way to verify my existence on this planet
because I don't have a credit card. The superpower they use to track me
has no information that says I'm real. I'm not even a memory. Talk about
privacy. I love it.


  #35  
Old July 22nd 15, 01:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Al Drake
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On 7/22/2015 8:34 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:29:41 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

Today I thought I'd create a Social Security account online. This
process was denied which required me to place a phone call. During that
call I was told there was no way to verify my existence on this planet
because I don't have a credit card. The superpower they use to track me
has no information that says I'm real. I'm not even a memory. Talk about
privacy. I love it.


You seem to have very bad luck.

I don't see it that way at all. I see it as having a very secure ID, I
have no credit cards, I never did by choice. I can't be verified or
Identified therefore I can't be categorized or victimized. If someone
stole my faults ID what good would it do. If the government doesn't even
know who I am than how good it that?




  #36  
Old July 22nd 15, 02:23 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Al Drake
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On 7/22/2015 9:13 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:41:33 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/22/2015 8:34 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:29:41 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

Today I thought I'd create a Social Security account online. This
process was denied which required me to place a phone call. During that
call I was told there was no way to verify my existence on this planet
because I don't have a credit card. The superpower they use to track me
has no information that says I'm real. I'm not even a memory. Talk about
privacy. I love it.

You seem to have very bad luck.

I don't see it that way at all. I see it as having a very secure ID, I
have no credit cards, I never did by choice. I can't be verified or
Identified therefore I can't be categorized or victimized. If someone
stole my faults ID what good would it do. If the government doesn't even
know who I am than how good it that?




I was referring to "all" the issues you bring to the forum, not just the Social
Security incident.

If you think the government doesn't know who you are, try not paying your taxes
and see what happens.

I never think of myself as having bad luck considering the variety of
things I get involved in. I think I actually enjoy a measure of
"trouble". It keeps the blood flowing.

I am sure the government "seekers" are well aware of everything about
me. I do have a job and pay taxes.

What else is this forum for but posts regarding bad luck adventures of
Microsoft Windows 7.


  #37  
Old July 22nd 15, 04:19 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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OT side Note:

Today I thought I'd create a Social Security account online. This process
was denied which required me to place a phone call. During that call I was
told there was no way to verify my existence on this planet because I
don't have a credit card. The superpower they use to track me has no
information that says I'm real. I'm not even a memory. Talk about privacy.
I love it.



When you apply for social security someday, the letter in response will
read:

"... there was no way to verify your existence on this planet because the
superpower they use to track me has no information that says you're real.
you're not even a memory.
Thank you for applying"

Your illusion of privacy is more likely a bureaucratic bungle that may cause
you headaches in the future when you try to collect. When you open an
account with SS, you get a list of every penny reported to SS that you
earned by year in addition to your contributions and projected monthly
benefit.
Their inability to verify my account would not make me feel happy.

Rich

  #38  
Old July 22nd 15, 05:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Mick[_9_]
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"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:33:33 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/21/2015 10:50 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:43:36 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On an old system that I haven't started up for some time I got this
message at the lower right of my screen. I searched for a fix and came
upon this
http://temcam.com/2013/10/25/how-to-...genuine-error/

As it says I used the CMD (run as administrator) and entered SLMGR
-REARM and hit return. I rebooted and all was well. Now a few days
later
I get the same message. Is anyone familiar with a direct fix? I've read
about other fixes but I'd like to get a first hand account of what
really works to set this installation straight.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Get the pirate program "Windows 7 Loader". Whether you used to be legit
or not, it'll shut it up.


I was amused by that download. I don't think I have the brass to use
something that says it's not legit.


I've used it since Windows 7 came out, and never had a problem with it.

I am at a point where I'm more or
less in favor of pirating Windows after all the problems MicroSoft
releases.


Windows 10 is free anyway, so even if you don't like piracy, you're not
really doing it anymore :-)


Some people have employment and do not need to pirate software.
You are long term unemployed and always will be.







  #39  
Old July 22nd 15, 05:44 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Al Drake
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On 7/22/2015 10:39 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 09:23:19 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/22/2015 9:13 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:41:33 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/22/2015 8:34 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:29:41 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

Today I thought I'd create a Social Security account online. This
process was denied which required me to place a phone call. During that
call I was told there was no way to verify my existence on this planet
because I don't have a credit card. The superpower they use to track me
has no information that says I'm real. I'm not even a memory. Talk about
privacy. I love it.

You seem to have very bad luck.

I don't see it that way at all. I see it as having a very secure ID, I
have no credit cards, I never did by choice. I can't be verified or
Identified therefore I can't be categorized or victimized. If someone
stole my faults ID what good would it do. If the government doesn't even
know who I am than how good it that?




I was referring to "all" the issues you bring to the forum, not just the Social
Security incident.

If you think the government doesn't know who you are, try not paying your taxes
and see what happens.

I never think of myself as having bad luck considering the variety of
things I get involved in. I think I actually enjoy a measure of
"trouble". It keeps the blood flowing.

I am sure the government "seekers" are well aware of everything about
me. I do have a job and pay taxes.

What else is this forum for but posts regarding bad luck adventures of
Microsoft Windows 7.


I didn't say or imply anything about the purpose of the forum.

I simply stated my observation about your lack of good luck, which is based upon
the number of issues you raise in this group.


I will have to review my posts and see if I agree now that many of the
issues have been resolved. It all must have something to do with my
uncontrollable urge to tinker.

Years ago I had a neighbor who purchased a 100 year old house on the property
next to my 110 year old house. Your average 100 year old house requires a fair
amount of maintenance and he was not what one would call "handy".

For several years, I and the other neighbors were helping him out with repairs
on a regular basis. It was a friendly area and the rest of us were quite good
with such things. One day when three of us were helping him dig up and replace
a lead pipe leading to his septic tank, one of the guys asked him "What made you
buy this place? Didn't you realize how much work it would be and that you
aren't good with such things?" His reply was classic, he said "Yeah, I knew it
would be a lot of work but I saw all of your houses and I figured I could find
people to help me."

All of us told him that he should have bought a brand new condo in the city and
that it was getting kind of tedious doing all this work without at least a keg
of beer and pizza and or having him show up when any of us needed another back
for a project. He told us that so far, he hadn't needed to do that as we were
helping him for free. Needless to say, it wasn't long after that most of us
stopped taking his calls and he ended up moving to the city. Good times.......


So if I buy you pizza and beer you'll help me clean MY septic tank? I
bet I couldn't find anyone to do any of that kind of work these days.

I remember moving and all I had to do was announce the presence of a
keg of beer and more people would show up than were needed. The catch
was the beer was at an undisclosed location that by coincidence happened
to be in the back yard of the new place.




  #40  
Old July 22nd 15, 05:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Tough Guy no. 1265
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:39:08 +0100, Stormin' Norman wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:26:41 +0100, "Mick" wrote:


"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:33:33 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/21/2015 10:50 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:43:36 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On an old system that I haven't started up for some time I got this
message at the lower right of my screen. I searched for a fix and came
upon this
http://temcam.com/2013/10/25/how-to-...genuine-error/

As it says I used the CMD (run as administrator) and entered SLMGR
-REARM and hit return. I rebooted and all was well. Now a few days
later
I get the same message. Is anyone familiar with a direct fix? I've read
about other fixes but I'd like to get a first hand account of what
really works to set this installation straight.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Get the pirate program "Windows 7 Loader". Whether you used to be legit
or not, it'll shut it up.

I was amused by that download. I don't think I have the brass to use
something that says it's not legit.

I've used it since Windows 7 came out, and never had a problem with it.

I am at a point where I'm more or
less in favor of pirating Windows after all the problems MicroSoft
releases.

Windows 10 is free anyway, so even if you don't like piracy, you're not
really doing it anymore :-)


Some people have employment and do not need to pirate software.
You are long term unemployed and always will be.


If the guy is as much of a troll as you say he is, why the hell are you engaging
and encouraging him?


Mick is the troll. Go read what he writes in uk.rec.driving.
  #41  
Old July 22nd 15, 05:51 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Al Drake
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On 7/22/2015 12:39 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:26:41 +0100, "Mick" wrote:


"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:33:33 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/21/2015 10:50 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:43:36 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On an old system that I haven't started up for some time I got this
message at the lower right of my screen. I searched for a fix and came
upon this
http://temcam.com/2013/10/25/how-to-...genuine-error/

As it says I used the CMD (run as administrator) and entered SLMGR
-REARM and hit return. I rebooted and all was well. Now a few days
later
I get the same message. Is anyone familiar with a direct fix? I've read
about other fixes but I'd like to get a first hand account of what
really works to set this installation straight.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Get the pirate program "Windows 7 Loader". Whether you used to be legit
or not, it'll shut it up.

I was amused by that download. I don't think I have the brass to use
something that says it's not legit.

I've used it since Windows 7 came out, and never had a problem with it.

I am at a point where I'm more or
less in favor of pirating Windows after all the problems MicroSoft
releases.

Windows 10 is free anyway, so even if you don't like piracy, you're not
really doing it anymore :-)


Some people have employment and do not need to pirate software.
You are long term unemployed and always will be.


If the guy is as much of a troll as you say he is, why the hell are you engaging
and encouraging him?


I think there should be a version of Windows called Windows Senior for
us oldies that's free. I wonder how many users that would generate.
Then for the real old times they could release Windows 1932.
  #42  
Old July 22nd 15, 05:58 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Tough Guy no. 1265
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On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:51:00 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/22/2015 12:39 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:26:41 +0100, "Mick" wrote:


"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:33:33 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/21/2015 10:50 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:43:36 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On an old system that I haven't started up for some time I got this
message at the lower right of my screen. I searched for a fix and came
upon this
http://temcam.com/2013/10/25/how-to-...genuine-error/

As it says I used the CMD (run as administrator) and entered SLMGR
-REARM and hit return. I rebooted and all was well. Now a few days
later
I get the same message. Is anyone familiar with a direct fix? I've read
about other fixes but I'd like to get a first hand account of what
really works to set this installation straight.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Get the pirate program "Windows 7 Loader". Whether you used to be legit
or not, it'll shut it up.

I was amused by that download. I don't think I have the brass to use
something that says it's not legit.

I've used it since Windows 7 came out, and never had a problem with it.

I am at a point where I'm more or
less in favor of pirating Windows after all the problems MicroSoft
releases.

Windows 10 is free anyway, so even if you don't like piracy, you're not
really doing it anymore :-)

Some people have employment and do not need to pirate software.
You are long term unemployed and always will be.


If the guy is as much of a troll as you say he is, why the hell are you engaging
and encouraging him?


I think there should be a version of Windows called Windows Senior for
us oldies that's free. I wonder how many users that would generate.
Then for the real old times they could release Windows 1932.


Well we already have a Glasgow edition, so why not?
http://www.jackiestewart.co.uk/jokes...ies%202000.htm

--
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  #43  
Old July 22nd 15, 06:04 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Al Drake
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On 7/22/2015 11:19 AM, Rich wrote:

OT side Note:

Today I thought I'd create a Social Security account online. This
process was denied which required me to place a phone call. During
that call I was told there was no way to verify my existence on this
planet because I don't have a credit card. The superpower they use to
track me has no information that says I'm real. I'm not even a memory.
Talk about privacy. I love it.



When you apply for social security someday, the letter in response will
read:

"... there was no way to verify your existence on this planet because
the superpower they use to track me has no information that says you're
real. you're not even a memory.
Thank you for applying"

Your illusion of privacy is more likely a bureaucratic bungle that may
cause you headaches in the future when you try to collect. When you open
an account with SS, you get a list of every penny reported to SS that
you earned by year in addition to your contributions and projected
monthly benefit.
Their inability to verify my account would not make me feel happy.

Rich


I don't have any illusions of privacy but I do appreciate the
government stumbling over themselves trying to find me at times.

I remember getting those reports delivered by mail. I have been
curious for some time now about just where I am in that food chain. I'm
wondering if it would be any benefit to me to select Medicare rather
than paying my share of a healthcare package not picked up by my
employer. I've been considering becoming self employed in my older
years. The drive to work is the most dangerous thing I ever do on the 80
miles I put in every day. The roads I travel are a crime scene and there
is nothing any one can do about it. Here in New Hampshire they are now
just getting around to adding a third lane on the major exit into Mass.

The inability of them to ID me can be remedied with an in person visit
to the local S.S. office.


  #44  
Old July 22nd 15, 06:06 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Al Drake
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On 7/22/2015 12:58 PM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:51:00 +0100, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/22/2015 12:39 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:26:41 +0100, "Mick" wrote:


"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
news On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:33:33 +0100, Al Drake
wrote:

On 7/21/2015 10:50 AM, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 15:43:36 +0100, Al Drake
wrote:

On an old system that I haven't started up for some time I
got this
message at the lower right of my screen. I searched for a fix
and came
upon this
http://temcam.com/2013/10/25/how-to-...genuine-error/


As it says I used the CMD (run as administrator) and entered
SLMGR
-REARM and hit return. I rebooted and all was well. Now a few days
later
I get the same message. Is anyone familiar with a direct fix?
I've read
about other fixes but I'd like to get a first hand account of what
really works to set this installation straight.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Get the pirate program "Windows 7 Loader". Whether you used to
be legit
or not, it'll shut it up.

I was amused by that download. I don't think I have the brass
to use
something that says it's not legit.

I've used it since Windows 7 came out, and never had a problem with
it.

I am at a point where I'm more or
less in favor of pirating Windows after all the problems MicroSoft
releases.

Windows 10 is free anyway, so even if you don't like piracy, you're
not
really doing it anymore :-)

Some people have employment and do not need to pirate software.
You are long term unemployed and always will be.


If the guy is as much of a troll as you say he is, why the hell are
you engaging
and encouraging him?


I think there should be a version of Windows called Windows Senior for
us oldies that's free. I wonder how many users that would generate.
Then for the real old times they could release Windows 1932.


Well we already have a Glasgow edition, so why not?
http://www.jackiestewart.co.uk/jokes...ies%202000.htm




I like it.



  #45  
Old July 22nd 15, 06:15 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Al Drake
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On 7/22/2015 1:02 PM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 12:44:19 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/22/2015 10:39 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 09:23:19 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/22/2015 9:13 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:41:33 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

On 7/22/2015 8:34 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 08:29:41 -0400, Al Drake wrote:

Today I thought I'd create a Social Security account online. This
process was denied which required me to place a phone call. During that
call I was told there was no way to verify my existence on this planet
because I don't have a credit card. The superpower they use to track me
has no information that says I'm real. I'm not even a memory. Talk about
privacy. I love it.

You seem to have very bad luck.

I don't see it that way at all. I see it as having a very secure ID, I
have no credit cards, I never did by choice. I can't be verified or
Identified therefore I can't be categorized or victimized. If someone
stole my faults ID what good would it do. If the government doesn't even
know who I am than how good it that?




I was referring to "all" the issues you bring to the forum, not just the Social
Security incident.

If you think the government doesn't know who you are, try not paying your taxes
and see what happens.

I never think of myself as having bad luck considering the variety of
things I get involved in. I think I actually enjoy a measure of
"trouble". It keeps the blood flowing.

I am sure the government "seekers" are well aware of everything about
me. I do have a job and pay taxes.

What else is this forum for but posts regarding bad luck adventures of
Microsoft Windows 7.


I didn't say or imply anything about the purpose of the forum.

I simply stated my observation about your lack of good luck, which is based upon
the number of issues you raise in this group.


I will have to review my posts and see if I agree now that many of the
issues have been resolved. It all must have something to do with my
uncontrollable urge to tinker.

Years ago I had a neighbor who purchased a 100 year old house on the property
next to my 110 year old house. Your average 100 year old house requires a fair
amount of maintenance and he was not what one would call "handy".

For several years, I and the other neighbors were helping him out with repairs
on a regular basis. It was a friendly area and the rest of us were quite good
with such things. One day when three of us were helping him dig up and replace
a lead pipe leading to his septic tank, one of the guys asked him "What made you
buy this place? Didn't you realize how much work it would be and that you
aren't good with such things?" His reply was classic, he said "Yeah, I knew it
would be a lot of work but I saw all of your houses and I figured I could find
people to help me."

All of us told him that he should have bought a brand new condo in the city and
that it was getting kind of tedious doing all this work without at least a keg
of beer and pizza and or having him show up when any of us needed another back
for a project. He told us that so far, he hadn't needed to do that as we were
helping him for free. Needless to say, it wasn't long after that most of us
stopped taking his calls and he ended up moving to the city. Good times.......


So if I buy you pizza and beer you'll help me clean MY septic tank? I
bet I couldn't find anyone to do any of that kind of work these days.

I remember moving and all I had to do was announce the presence of a
keg of beer and more people would show up than were needed. The catch
was the beer was at an undisclosed location that by coincidence happened
to be in the back yard of the new place.




No, now that I am well into my 90's I would not help you replace a pipe going to
your septic tank unless you were to do all the digging, buy all the materials,
acquire all the tools and do all the labor, turning to me only for advice and
affirmation. Oh, and the beer would have to be served by a size 0 - 2, 28 year
old, female, hard-body with DD cup boobs and loose morals.


Now that IS something I would be willing to do. I think just meeting
you would be an adventure worth experiencing. My other is about to turn
90 next month and enjoys her computer more than anything I would say. I
never could get her to share a beer though. She's been a holy roller as
long as I've been alive.

Don't be to concerned though, I don't have a septic tank and if I did
I would have it serviced. I do remember helping an uncle do just that
probably back in the 60's. He was the one that showed me what beer was.
I think he may have helped invent it. Either that or aid in giving it a
reputation.





 




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